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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: eastie on January 20, 2011, 03:31:22 PM
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sky reporting carew has passed medical and agreed terms on loan at stoke until end of season.
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Sad in one way but in another we gotta move on
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Annoying it didn't happen a day or so ago so Bent could have had number 10.
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Sad in one way but in another we gotta move on
Yep. He didn't do too bad.
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Doesn't a squad of 25 have be registered on jan 31st ? If so maybe bent could be given the number 10 shirt at that time, although I suppose that would be harsh on anyone who has bought a bent shirt with 39 on it.
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Good luck to him. I'm glad he's joined them over Blues or Baggies. I guess we've seen the last of him in a Villa shirt, which I suppose is a good thing the way he's been playing recently. I hope he comes back to Villa park with somebody at some point though, he deserves a clap for his contributions over the last three and a bit years.
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Sad in one way but in another we gotta move on
Yep. He didn't do too bad.
Considering he was a swap for Baros he did amazing. Always remember him destroying the Blues
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I expect we will gave a clause that he cannot play against us in the league game at villa park?
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A pity it's only on loan - that means he can't play against us and they might put somebody decent in his place.
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I'm staggered he has passed hos medical !!!!
so long John, it was good while it lasted.
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Considering he was a swap for Baros he did amazing.
He did ?
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My kids will be gutted. They love him
The curse of the calendar strikes again? he's the small Mr January.
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Thanks for being so uninterested and shit for the last season.
good fucking riddance.
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Doesn't a squad of 25 have be registered on jan 31st ? If so maybe bent could be given the number 10 shirt at that time, although I suppose that would be harsh on anyone who has bought a bent shirt with 39 on it.
With luck the no 9 shirt will be free by then too
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He was finished for us the afternoon he blasted that penalty out of the ground at Newcastle! Been the shadow of the player he was for us.
Good luck!
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My kids will be gutted. They love him
That will be his legacy. Everyone will remember him fondly, and probably more fondly than he deserves.
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Cheerio old bean
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My kids will be gutted. They love him
]Thought my son would be but it's all about Albrighton these days.
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Amazing that he was with us for so long.
Thanks for the memories (In the games you could be arsed)
Big chunk off the wage bill.
Coming soon, interview slagging Houllier off and praising O'Neill.
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he deserves a clap for his contributions over the last three and a bit years.
It wouldn't surprise me if he had the clap after his 'contributions' of the last three years.
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I think we got the best out of him. I'll never forget the way he destroyed SHA in the 5-1 drubbing. then there was that time he came on against Wigan, away and completely turned the game - then Reading in the FAC etc ......
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Farewell John. You're an enigma but completely hopeless for far too much of your footballing time.
Body of a Lion, heart of a lamb.
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As his ex told him
'The boy does nothing, absolutely nothing.'
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he gave us some good memories, but his last few months have been nothing short of disgraceful...
he could have been one of the very best, but didnt want it enough...
shame really...
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Against Arsenal when he was subbed off was the fastest he'd moved that day, it was really noticeable.
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He was decent up to the start of this season,,,,,,,
That about sums big John up.
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He was finished for us the afternoon he blasted that penalty out of the ground at Newcastle! Been the shadow of the player he was for us.
Good luck!
yeah I remember him missing a few against west ham as well..... but you are right...
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One of the most frustrating players I have seen in the Villa shirt. He had all the attributes to do what Drogba has done for Chelsea (obviously not the dying swan stuff) but seemingly couldn't be arsed most of the time.
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His time was up for me , when I wanted Heskey in the team before Carew, and I would never have said that before the season had started....
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That clearance from our box, away at Reading, with his shoulder was a pretty unique moment in following The Villa.
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Although, this was good
(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Sports+Pictures+Week+2008+April+21+ZSbz6aFgYvil.jpg)
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That was a very special moment, especially for the lad involved.
I like Carew and think he started well for us. Recently though, oh dear.........
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When a professional footballer comes off the pitch complaining he is cold it sort of dims the admiration.
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I hold no grudges. The guy on his day was deadly. He also had some character. Good luck for the future. At least he will have some ammo with Delaps throws.
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Will go down as a Villa centre forward who underachieved and only showed glimpses of the attributes he had to terrorise defences when he was in the mood.
However, his record of 130 appearances (28 as sub) and 47 goals as a strike rate will compare favourably with most Villa strikers of the last 40 years.
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Thanks for the memories John, hope you don't get a bad reception if/when you come back to Villa Park, i'm sure you won't but it will help if you score a couple of own goals for your new club in front of the Holte!
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Considering he was a swap for Baros he did amazing.
He did ?
Our top scorer 3 out of 4 seasons. What more do you want? (excluding this season obviously when he's been shit)
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Think his pretty poor final season and a half have overshadowed what was a very decent player to begin with. I agree he should've been better, although we knew what we were getting when he joined. A talented, yet ultimately frustrating, enigma.
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The strip clubs on broad street will be pissed off at their loss in income
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Did a great job for a couple of years or so,he was the cult hero that we hadn't had in a while,but we need better than him now.
Good luck to him,thanks for some good times,
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Why am I so sad that he has gone? I have wanted him out of the team all season but now he has gone I feel a bit disappointed. I think it may be because he was a symbol of the MON era and the hope and expectation we all had when he and Randy came (which we still have). I really hope the Stoke fans don't nick our song for him, I'd be gutted to hear them singing that at VP next season. Farewell big man, it was almost beautiful. :(
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Thanks for the memories John. I liked him.
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However, his record of 130 appearances (28 as sub) and 47 goals as a strike rate will compare favourably with most Villa strikers of the last 40 years.
Wonder how many on here will be happy with those sort of figures from our new £18-24M striker .
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I thought he did well for us, good strike rate, but did have a tendency to blow hot and cold. Last six months just fizzled out. Then again, even last season when we didn't think he was right on his game, his goals kept up in contention right up until the end of the campaign. I still think if that thunderbolt had gone in at City, not hit the bar, we'd be in the Champions League now. Well, not now, necessarily, but in it at some stage.
Cheers big man. Loved the hat-trick against Newcastle.
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The FT is reporting that Legs XI have just issued a profits warning.
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That was a very special moment, especially for the lad involved.
I like Carew and think he started well for us. Recently though, oh dear.........
I know you liked him Pauline otherwise you wouldn't have been trying to look at his todger on the train that time....
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I bet supporters of every club he played for said the same as us,done well,but could've achieved even more. Hopefully he'll score for Stoke against teams like Sunderland,Blackpool,Blues etc.
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Good luck big man. When he was on song he was great and lifted the whole place, will have far more good memories than bad of his time here.
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That was a very special moment, especially for the lad involved.
I like Carew and think he started well for us. Recently though, oh dear.........
I know you liked him Pauline otherwise you wouldn't have been trying to look at his todger on the train that time....
Pauline !!!!! At your age !!!!
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That was a very special moment, especially for the lad involved.
I like Carew and think he started well for us. Recently though, oh dear.........
I know you liked him Pauline otherwise you wouldn't have been trying to look at his todger on the train that time....
Pauline !!!!! At your age !!!!
*splutter* He was only washing his hands............................unfortunately! ;)
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That was a very special moment, especially for the lad involved.
I like Carew and think he started well for us. Recently though, oh dear.........
I know you liked him Pauline otherwise you wouldn't have been trying to look at his todger on the train that time....
Pauline !!!!! At your age !!!!
*splutter* He was only washing his hands............................unfortunately! ;)
surely you couldn't have been gazing at his tallywhacker on a train .....and as for washing his hands ......what was so messy ;)
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Shame, he could have been a legend but finished up being a bellend.
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Sad to see a holte hero leave, Im glad he's leaving now though...I think the injurys have taken their tole on him this season and weve seen the best of him. I will remember him fondly from his time here. He will get a good reception if he ever makes it back here.
cheerio and good luck big man....
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Good luck John, you've done great for us and was a real fan favourite!
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Not bad for a free transfer (Baros' value = £0) but I just wish he'd put a bit more effort in at times. When he was on fire, he was unplayable.
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Can only see him staying at stoke till the end of the season then abroad for his last big deal, Turkey or USA?
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Carew had some high points during his time here but my abiding memory will be the 2nd half at Reading in the cup last season - on his day Carew was fantastic but sadly his day was all too rare, a good player for us but he could have been a great player.
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Good luck John like many of you have said on here on his day he was immense and a joy to watch but injuries and loss of form meant it was inevitable he was going to leave but he will get a good reception if he does come back to Villa Park but like i've said before Good luck John Carew he's bigger than me and you.
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Carew had some high points during his time here but my abiding memory will be the 2nd half at Reading in the cup last season
Especially because I spent the first 45 mins thinking 'get him off the pitch', then he put in one of the greatest 15 mins I'd seen anyone put in for many a moon. A true Carew cameo, I expect many a Lyon and Valencia fan had the same feelings about him when he moved on.
Could have been a euro football legend, but Carew got in the way.
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Exit stage left another what-might-have-been.
He's taken the piss for the last eighteen months.
On recent form he won't be missed, although the immutable law of the ex will inevitably raise its head the next time we play Stoke.
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When he first came he was tremendous - and we have seen some great performances including blues 5 - 1 at home and reading away.
But
every club he has been to he has started off superbly and then fading away (perhaps he is a bit of a nomad), getting caught out the night before our biggest european night in years and his attitude at times has took the shine off things for me.
A very good friend of mine also had the misfortune of bumping into him on a train one evening on the way back from a match - complete twat apparantly.
Oh well, good luck in 'Duck City' Big John - score a few against our rivals please.
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Would have liked to see him with Bent at some stage, you never know, it might have got him fired up again.
Truth be told, we haven't seen the best of him since 2009.
His game changed following the back injury that he struggled with midway through that season (which he apparently still has). Before that, he was a menace to centre backs, even if he wasn't scoring. John Terry and Micah Richards both listed him as the toughest opponent they had faced.
After that, he went in for the physical stuff much less and opted to ghost into the penalty area and cause havoc that way. Some outrageous goals versus Stoke at home, Everton away and Reading in the cup giving some kind of indication of what he could do when on song.
He hasn't been at the races this season, but has given us four decent years overall (OK probably more like three and a bit) so good luck.
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versus Stoke at home
That was a cracker. I always liked Carew, thought he was the first 'proper' striker we'd signed in ages when he came here.
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To be honest if he'd been as good as he could have been he'd probably have ended up at somewere like Real Madrid and we'd never have seen him at Villa Park.
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You can only take the piss like he did if you’re an exceptional talent. And he wasn’t.
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To be honest if he'd been as good as he could have been he'd probably have ended up at somewere like Real Madrid and we'd never have seen him at Villa Park.
The margin that separates the good premiership player from the great is consistency of performance matching the talent. Carew was as talented as any centre forward in Europe for the last 10 years, but his consistency level was about at our level. Bent is the reverse, talent at our level, consistency at the top, similar to Andy Cole for example, and as such a better comodity to move us forward. Will always love big John for some of the memories, the songs, the goals, but for 12 months he has been gone. If he were a racehorse they would have shot him by now, or put him out to stud, unfortunately John took the latter option upon himself and hasn't been interested in football.
Now go big John, John Carew, score some goals for Stoke to send West Ham, Blues, Albion, Wigan, Fulham etc crashing down. Oh and if you play Blackpool, I hope you have a particularly good day!
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All good things must come to an end. I loved Big John. Loved him right up until the point this season started and he just didn't look up for it. But before then, he was unpredictable. That made him frustrating as hell, but always compelling to watch, and able to produce something from nothing. He was mercurial, and I can't help but like having those sort of live wire players around. More often than not they look disinterested, but every now and again just look like world beaters...must be how Toon fans felt about Tino Asprilla.
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My kids will be gutted. They love him
Snap - they used to sing the John Carew song in the bath.
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To be honest if he'd been as good as he could have been he'd probably have ended up at somewere like Real Madrid and we'd never have seen him at Villa Park.
The margin that separates the good premiership player from the great is consistency of performance matching the talent. Carew was as talented as any centre forward in Europe for the last 10 years, but his consistency level was about at our level. Bent is the reverse, talent at our level, consistency at the top, similar to Andy Cole for example, and as such a better comodity to move us forward. Will always love big John for some of the memories, the songs, the goals, but for 12 months he has been gone. If he were a racehorse they would have shot him by now, or put him out to stud, unfortunately John took the latter option upon himself and hasn't been interested in football.
Now go big John, John Carew, score some goals for Stoke to send West Ham, Blues, Albion, Wigan, Fulham etc crashing down. Oh and if you play Blackpool, I hope you have a particularly good day!
great post Ozz and exactly how I feel. I don't really know why this is but I will be gutted when he scores his first goal for Stoke, or when we watch highlights and he's just battered another defender. We all know he won't do it consistently, but when he'll be in the mood he'll be superb for them. Thanks for the memories Big John.
ps. I assume being on loan he can't play against us?
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Despite his last year with us, swapping Baros for Carew was probably one of the best value for money signings we've made over the last 10 years.
On his day defenders just couldn't handle him - on his off day they didn't need to. Clearly gained extra kudos for his song and tearing Blose a new one a few times.
I'll chose to remember those good times.
Good luck big man.
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I always felt JC always had a lot more in the locker.
When he 1st come, i thought what a great player we had, we relied so much on him, but his performances, and commitment , for me , got less and less.
In the end , for me , he was a liability, little effort, little ability, little threrat.Not sorry to see him go tbh.
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Stoke still to play:
Fulham (a)
SHA (a)
Stripey Black Country lot (h)
West Ham (a)
Wolves (h)
Wigan (h) Last game of the season.
Play for your next move in these particular games please John, and the memory could be a little fonder!
There were some good times and thanks for those.
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He was immense when he 1st started with us but apart from the odd game changing performance he has never been the same since the titty bar incident :-(. Good luck bug John
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Unplayable on his day, unwatchable when it wasn't his day.
A good player who gave us some good times. I'd like to wish him all the best in his future endeavours apart from when they are against us.
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He let us down this year big time. Trying to play the fans against the manager when he simply could not give a shit. I won't be sad to see him gone. The words of the Lyon owner a few years back have actually turned out to be true - he is a lazy bastard. Anyone who declares themselves unfit to play for my club can get fucked.
Good luck in the Hanley strip joints John.
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Unplayable on his day, unwatchable when it wasn't his day.
A good player who gave us some good times. I'd like to wish him all the best in his future endeavours apart from when they are against us.
if he's not allowed to play for Stoke against us, then my guess would be that he'll find one more big pay day on the continent before hanging it up. We may never play against him, which given what he is capable when he's motivated is probably a good thing.
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Good luck John, never forget the 5 - 1 battering we gave the blues and after the game you came out the ground towards your car in your villa tracksuit holding your 5 fingers up on your one hand and 1 finger on your other hand then standing their so we could take photos. The noses at work were well pissed for weeks after!!!
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Surprised bunny hasn't been on from Stoke , Carew will probably do ok there and get on the end of delaps throws , I'd still expect him to move abroad in the summer though.
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Been with us the longest of any of his previous clubs and think he loved every minute of it until Houllier come in. Loved seeing him bully some if the best defenders in the league, shame that it has all petered out.
If he ever comes to the villa again I'll definitely get my tits out for Carew.
And nothing to do with Carew, but can I ask why some people in the Lower Holte always applaud the oppositions keeper? It gets right on my tits! We should be giving him loads of abuse and making him feel unwelcome. Understand when David James or Tommy Sorensen get a good reception but for anybody else, it just baffles me.
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Been with us the longest of any of his previous clubs and think he loved every minute of it until Houllier come in. Loved seeing him bully some if the best defenders in the league, shame that it has all petered out.
If he ever comes to the villa again I'll definitely get my tits out for Carew.
Did a job for a while, but I do not see how "I don't like the manager" is an acceptable excuse for loping around the pitch like you don't give a shit, taking extended Christmas holidays, randomly declaring yourself unfit when you fancy a break, and generally doing a good impression of someone who doesn't give a shit that the club is heading for the bottom of the table.
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Been with us the longest of any of his previous clubs and think he loved every minute of it until Houllier come in. Loved seeing him bully some if the best defenders in the league, shame that it has all petered out.
If he ever comes to the villa again I'll definitely get my tits out for Carew.
Did a job for a while, but I do not see how "I don't like the manager" is an acceptable excuse for loping around the pitch like you don't give a shit, taking extended Christmas holidays, randomly declaring yourself unfit when you fancy a break, and generally doing a good impression of someone who doesn't give a shit that the club is heading for the bottom of the table.
That's a modern footballer for you though. As soon as they don't like something they throw their toys out of their pram.
Rooney and Tevez have done it this season, one to get a new deal and the other just to kick up a fuss to make him feel wanted. But it was obvious that Carew wanted to go as soon as Houllier come in.
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wonder if he'll wake up one day and realise he wasted his career. If he'd had the right application, and less of the mysterious injuries he could have played at the very top. I'm not surprised GH has moved him on, or indeed when he was at lyon because at the end of the day despite his goals he's just too unreliable .
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Very difficult not to be fond of the fella. For a long time it seemed he loved playing for us and loved the fans too. The 07/08 season was great, in no small part thanks to him. And the last two seasons, the good have far outweighed the bad when it comes to Carew, even if - easy to say in hindsight, but something started to change after the strip bar incident. Or maybe it was just that back injury that kept him out for a while. He started to lose the consistency that he was impressively building up in his first year at the club. Maybe, the nomadic soul that he is, he just got restless and a wee bit lazy.
It's a measure of how much his star has fallen since MON left that ''Heskey or Carew?'' was a complete no-brainer before. It still is now, sadly for John the answer is Emile every time.
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Still don't understand what we might get out of this...Carew is still a top, top player on his day and loaning him out to one of our competitors doesn't make any sense to me at all.
OK, if he's leaving in the summer, but leave him here in case we need him, one goal could keep us up !
Sad the way it's ended, Carew will always be remembered in claret and blue, as everyone else has mentioned, unplayable on his day, but frustratingly inconsistent.
Good luck big man.
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Still don't understand what we might get out of this...Carew is still a top, top player on his day and loaning him out to one of our competitors doesn't make any sense to me at all.
OK, if he's leaving in the summer, but leave him here in case we need him, one goal could keep us up !
Sad the way it's ended, Carew will always be remembered in claret and blue, as everyone else has mentioned, unplayable on his day, but frustratingly inconsistent.
Good luck big man.
We are getting rid of £60.000 pw of the wage bill and a totally disinterested player who may have been underminding the manager.......good riddance
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Why aren't the likes of Celtic and Rangers interested /
I'd prefer to see JC loaned outside the Premier
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Why aren't the likes of Celtic and Rangers interested /
I'd prefer to see JC loaned outside the Premier
They wont pay his wages and I dont blame them
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I like big John but even at his best he was a one in four or five games player, now it's more like one in 24 or 25. I still think he could do a job given a run in the team but it seems clear he doesn't get on with Houllier and can't be arsed to even try. In which case he's no use to us and better if he's off the wage bill.
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Well overall I think he's been good for us, so good luck to him. Also if he can get some goals for Stoke against our relegation rivals that'd be great.
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He's been a good player for us overall. Some great goals and great rapport with the majority of fans. I can't argue with those who comments on his various off days, but he had some bloody good ones as well. I think he will do well for Stoke City.
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Stokie here, I would have had a wet dream with us signing Carew a year or 2 ago, he's a great player and arguably one with more pedigree than we've had for a long time, it's just as a target man we have K Jones, were will he fit in?
Would prefer him to Eidur Gudjohnson as back but it that this won't make up for the possible departure of Fuller any easier to take.
Either way we'll get behind him.
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Stokie here, I would have had a wet dream with us signing Carew a year or 2 ago, he's a great player and arguably one with more pedigree than we've had for a long time, it's just as a target man we have K Jones, were will he fit in?
Would prefer him to Eidur Gudjohnson as back but it that this won't make up for the possible departure of Fuller any easier to take.
Either way we'll get behind him.
On the other end of a long throw in maybe ?
Don't expect to see any beads of sweat Stokie.
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I was always amazed at what afforded carew hois cult status with some people.
Good scoring record, terrible attitude and the whole lap dancing thing was a disgrace, showed what he thought of the club by breaking a curfew, then turning up back late from Norway "injured".
At least we've heard the last of his song
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The throws cause havoc but don't really works much these days, Surely we can't have Jones and Carew on for throws we need a Fuller Tuncay type on somewhere.
Either way I shall enjoy the John Carew song, He's bigger than me and you, John Carew, Carew 8) ;D Can't wait to blast that one out.
P.s If he comes and doesn't try in a Stoke shirt he won't play. Pulis never plays a slacker.
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I will be sad to see him go but agree that the time is right for him to do so. On his day I think he was World Class but we haven't seen that for over a year. So good luck to him I hope he does well. A new challenge may bring out his best and be what he needs. I quite like Stoke so with the exception of against us I hope he scores a few for them
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P.s If he comes and doesn't try in a Stoke shirt he won't play. Pulis never plays a slacker.
he wont play much then...
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from Villa twitter;
AVFCOfficial Aston Villa FC
Aston Villa can confirm that John Carew has agreed to join Stoke on loan to the end of the season. #avfc
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Carew has gone on loan, even though he's out of contract at the end of season.
Unless we have a recall option in the loan?
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Pulis never bothered to call me. I feel hurt
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Stokie here, I would have had a wet dream with us signing Carew a year or 2 ago, he's a great player and arguably one with more pedigree than we've had for a long time, it's just as a target man we have K Jones, were will he fit in?
Would prefer him to Eidur Gudjohnson as back but it that this won't make up for the possible departure of Fuller any easier to take.
Either way we'll get behind him.
When he's on his game he's much more than a target man. Whe he's up for it, he's unplayable, and if a move invigorates him you'll finish the season strongly.
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despite his appalling form and attitude this season, i wish him well in the future...
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At least if it's a loan he cant play against us.
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Stokie here, I would have had a wet dream with us signing Carew a year or 2 ago, he's a great player and arguably one with more pedigree than we've had for a long time, it's just as a target man we have K Jones, were will he fit in?
Would prefer him to Eidur Gudjohnson as back but it that this won't make up for the possible departure of Fuller any easier to take.
Either way we'll get behind him.
When he's on his game he's much more than a target man. Whe he's up for it, he's unplayable, and if a move invigorates him you'll finish the season strongly.
Yes I worded that poorly, calling him a target man is very unfair. He just won't be running at people like Fuller or Tuncay do. We are evolving into a side that plays a bit of football and 2 massive forwards does worry me slightly, however good.
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I bet Rory Delap will be salivating at the thought of having Jones AND Carew in the box for his throw-ins.
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he gave us some good memories, but his last few months have been nothing short of disgraceful...
he could have been one of the very best, but didnt want it enough...
shame really...
Exactly - some days he looked World Class and others he looked Warley Sunday League Standard.
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I find it quite surreal that given our current league position were loaning out our strikers to a team that is way above us.Really hope we can turn this season around starting tomorrow
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On his day, he could be a very good player. But, a legend? No.
Still, we live in times when any warbling slapper is called a diva.
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He was a good lad...for a while. Good luck to him at Stoke. I hope they have the John Carew from two years ago, not the one from two weeks ago.
Let's hope he puts some past the 'other teams'.
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I bet Rory Delap will be salivating at the thought of having Jones AND Carew in the box for his throw-ins.
I bet Carew will be chuffed that he won't have to run far for the ball.
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He just won't be running at people like Fuller or Tuncay do.
He wont be doing much running full stop.
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He just won't be running at people like Fuller or Tuncay do.
He wont be doing much running full stop.
That's what is worrying me, if so he won't fit in, but in Pulis we trust!
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Don't be too quick with the farewells: Carew probably thinks he's signed for a stroke.
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He'll still score goals but he's a strange one. When he does run about its kind of like he's doing it to show that he does have a work ethic rather than with any expectation that he will actually get a tackle in.
I hope he does well.
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Don't be too quick with the farewells: Carew probably thinks he's signed for a stroke.
Now that really is funny.
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He just won't be running at people like Fuller or Tuncay do.
He wont be doing much running full stop.
That's what is worrying me, if so he won't fit in, but in Pulis we trust!
He mormally starts well at a new club but has been pretty hopeless this season.
He can score goals but is to work ethic, what Dave Woodhall is to good looking.
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Carew and Stoke are a marriage made in heaven,
he will suit there style of play perfectly, with all those throw ins from Delap etc
good move for him, and Stoke i feel
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Glad he's gone there not Albion. Speaking of Albion, my favourite Carew performance was at the Hawthorns when we beat them 2-1 and he scored one, made the other, hit the post twice, won everything in the air and generally battered them.
My Albion supporting bro-in-law still goes on about how good he was that day, he'll be gutted he's not joined them!
Anyone know if he'll be allowed to play against us?
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It is the ideal striker for their system, fair play. He doesn't fit with the direction Houlier wants to go at all though.
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The inconsistency of Carew is the biggest factor of where we are now. Goals win games and if he was not in the mood, he was a waste of space .......
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Hey guys and gals,
Stokie here in peace.
I've seen bits of Carew before but just thought I'd check in and get a more educated appraisal of the guy. What can we expect, what we can't expect etc?
Having had a look at his scoring record it looks impressive however I can't say I have ever been overly impressed whenever I have seen him.
What's happening at your end too? Never thought you'd struggle in all honesty. Hopefully you'll turn it around soon.
All the best for the rest of the season.
WD
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you can expect him to be totally unplayable on his day.. no defender in world football could handle john carew when he has his mind set...
unfortunately, his good days come about as often as a total eclipse, and he is more often than not a frustrating figure who flatters to deceive while he jogs about the pitch... he does get the odd goal even when not playing well though, and they tally up at the end of the season...
it is a real shame that he isnt focused, as if he was, he could be one of the very best in the game...
as for us, messed up pre season, and lots of injuries... hopefully, we can now push on and the season starts now...
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Can we recall Carew and Weinmann if required?
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Carew has loads of niggling injuries these days, including back trouble.
Expect him to miss a few games.
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Cheers lads.
I wasn't overwhelmed when he signed in all honesty. As long as he's not been brought in to replace Fuller then I think he's a decent acquisition.
We have to hope that he has a new leash of life being at a new club, new manager, new surroundings etc. Hopefully Pulis can get the best out of him.
WD
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Cya John, you used to be unplayable on your day (I will never forget WBA away a few years ago) but you never have those days anymore. And we have better ways to spend 60K a week than on a lumbering CF with the turning circle of the QE2.
I'd like to wish you good luck, but the way you've taken the piss at my club during your time here means that despite your goals, I can't. So farewell.
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Cheers lads.
I wasn't overwhelmed when he signed in all honesty. As long as he's not been brought in to replace Fuller then I think he's a decent acquisition.
We have to hope that he has a new leash of life being at a new club, new manager, new surroundings etc. Hopefully Pulis can get the best out of him.
WD
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the change of scene does him good. It seems to have been the pattern throughout his career - starting with promise but fading away.
I think the loan deal suits you very well.
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Can we recall Carew and Weinmann if required?
Weimann yes, Carew not sure.
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I bet the Stoke fans will like this deal as he always liked to score against Stoke, best of luck JC but not too much!
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I bet the Stoke fans will like this deal as he always liked to score against Stoke, best of luck JC but not too much!
I'm pretty sure that was one of the reasons behind us making a move for him !!
:-)
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He was our top scorer last term with 17
I'm not entirely comfortable with him going, maybe a bit premature
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Well he was infinitely better than his make weight Baros, for that I'll always be thankful. He's been the victim up managerial turmoil and formation changes, when Milner, Downing and Young were knocking in the crosses with Gabby to play off he was great, but over the last year he's given less and less of a flying fuck. With the acquisition of Bent and Houllier preferring Heskey, the writings pretty much on the wall. Thanks for the memories big John.
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Why aren't the likes of Celtic and Rangers interested /
I'd prefer to see JC loaned outside the Premier
Come on! It's far too cold in Jockland for Carew.
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Yeah, end of an era. Thanks for the memories. But time both club and player moved on.
Cheers big John (hey that almost rhymes)
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Yeah, end of an era. Thanks for the memories. But time both club and player moved on.
Cheers big John (hey that almost rhymes)
Do you actually know what a rhyme is???
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Yeah, end of an era. Thanks for the memories. But time both club and player moved on.
Cheers big John (hey that almost rhymes)
Do you actually know what a rhyme is???
I know wiki isn't the most reliable of sources but their definition is pretty good
A rhyme is a repetition of similar sounds in two or more words
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@peter w WHOOSH!
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Yeah, end of an era. Thanks for the memories. But time both club and player moved on.
Cheers big John (hey that almost rhymes)
Do you actually know what a rhyme is???
On and John?
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Yes, yes, I know. Fuck off. You ...toff. Or something.
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Surely it's time for peter w to be changed to Bent W.
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regards big john. I for one have been one of your biggest fans1 If your good day was every week you may have never played for us! but you did !
I have loved your love for us on the holte and for once, we, have felt fully reciprocated!
Good luck and woe betide any one person slag you off! You have been great!
DOW SCORE AGAINST US THOUGH BIG MAN!
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Just seen him in Stoke training gear, doesn't seem right.
Not very often we get a player who shows his love for us so much.
Will be remembered in years to come as a fans favourite!
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I can't help thinking how some players get called all sorts for putting in a lot more work than Carew did. On his day he was as good as it gets, but he also ambled his way through a fair few lean spells.
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I want to give him the benifit of the doubt, that he never recovered from his back problem.
A fit motivated commited Carew would have got us CL or maybe won a game at Wembley, he didnt.
like a lot of Villa players I will look at his time with us tinged with disapointment.
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Take out his nonsense this season and Carew's record was pretty good. He was our top scorer in the three seasons we finished sixth - if wiki is to be believed his record is 117 appearances 49 goals. That is pretty good going for a guy we swapped Baros for. I think MON knew how to handle him best. He was never the most consistent of players and needed to be dropped every now and again to get the best out of him. Was a very poor decision to start with Heskey ahead of him in the Carling Cup final I thought. I think injuries have taken their effect and he clearly had no interest under McDonald or Houllier. But he was ur third best striker in recent times after Yorke and Angel so I'll always hold him in high regard anyway.
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Hey guys and gals,
Stokie here in peace.
I've seen bits of Carew before but just thought I'd check in and get a more educated appraisal of the guy. What can we expect, what we can't expect etc?
Having had a look at his scoring record it looks impressive however I can't say I have ever been overly impressed whenever I have seen him.
What's happening at your end too? Never thought you'd struggle in all honesty. Hopefully you'll turn it around soon.
All the best for the rest of the season.
WD
Hard to say.
Pulis actually wants him, which straight away separates him from GH.
A player playing for a manager who has faith in him can make a big difference.
He was a cult hero here, I wouldn't say legend as that's reserved for a special few.
Can he still be one of the most effective forwards in the league or is his back injury too far gone? We'll watch with interest, as -if he poodles through games as he has done for us in the past few months- it'll look like the latter. If he does well, it might suggest that motivation alone was the issue and it was a failure on behalf of our new management to utilise him properly and get him fired up.
In your favour, he should be keen, either to secure a longer deal at Stoke or to put himself in the shop window. But with JC, you can never quite tell.
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Header against the albion too!! we didn't deserve to win that game really and it took a player of big john's class to step up.
farewell, big man. bags of class, but not backed-up with the effort unfortunately.
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John Carew Carew
Stoke won't love you
They'll probably boo you
And that'll be the end of you
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John Carew Carew
Stoke won't love you
They'll probably boo you
And that'll be the end of you
We love him already! Scored 2 on Saturday, (although one given to Huth for a unintentional touch when it was going in anyway).
But I think the move has been great for him, we may be higher up the table than you but we are a smaller club, he may feel a bit more love here than he was getting at yours probably down to GH. On Saturday his body language on the pitch was first class running for lost causes and playing with a smile. I think he will be as good a signing and Tommy so thanks and good luck for the season.
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John Carew Carew
Stoke won't love you
They'll probably boo you
And that'll be the end of you
We love him already! Scored 2 on Saturday, (although one given to Huth for a unintentional touch when it was going in anyway).
But I think the move has been great for him, we may be higher up the table than you but we are a smaller club, he may feel a bit more love here than he was getting at yours probably down to GH. On Saturday his body language on the pitch was first class running for lost causes and playing with a smile. I think he will be as good a signing and Tommy so thanks and good luck for the season.
It may help him that you lump everthing in to the box!
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John Carew Carew
Stoke won't love you
They'll probably boo you
And that'll be the end of you
We love him already! Scored 2 on Saturday, (although one given to Huth for a unintentional touch when it was going in anyway).
But I think the move has been great for him, we may be higher up the table than you but we are a smaller club, he may feel a bit more love here than he was getting at yours probably down to GH. On Saturday his body language on the pitch was first class running for lost causes and playing with a smile. I think he will be as good a signing and Tommy so thanks and good luck for the season.
It may help him that you lump everthing in to the box!
Not always, but yes we did on Saturday.
Many fans (Villa) thought he wouldn't try for us though. Yes it's early days but he has ran his socks of so far.
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he generally has a record of starting off well at his new clubs and then settling into a more "comfortable" way of playing after a while... you may get the best out of him in his 6 month loan period, as he should be playing for a contract, however, what happens once he gets into his usual comfort zone, is anybodys guess...
history teaches us that he is a frustrating figure once that happens...
time will tell...
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John Carew Carew
Stoke won't love you
They'll probably boo you
And that'll be the end of you
We love him already! Scored 2 on Saturday, (although one given to Huth for a unintentional touch when it was going in anyway).
But I think the move has been great for him, we may be higher up the table than you but we are a smaller club, he may feel a bit more love here than he was getting at yours probably down to GH. On Saturday his body language on the pitch was first class running for lost causes and playing with a smile. I think he will be as good a signing and Tommy so thanks and good luck for the season.
It may help him that you lump everthing in to the box!
Not always, but yes we did on Saturday.
Many fans (Villa) thought he wouldn't try for us though. Yes it's early days but he has ran his socks of so far.
That's what Carew always does when he moves clubs - does well immediately after the move.
It's probably the one single Villa related point every single person on this site would agree with.
I liked Carew, but his attitude towards the end with us was dreadful
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My mate sent me this earlier
The keen-eyed amongst you may have noticed that Stoke striker John Carew unveiled some fresh ink not so very long ago, though you may not have spotted the rather embarrassing spelling mistake that lies therein.
The big Norwegian has had a tattoo on his neck that reads ‘Ma Vie, Mes Régles’ – which theoretically should translate (Babelfish approved) as ‘My Life, My Rules’.
However, a French professor at Oslo University has highlighted the fact that the use of the accent over the word ‘Régles’ means Carew’s motto translates rather differently.
Apparently, by incorporating an acute accent (é) instead of a grave accent (è), Carew’s daubings translate literally as either ‘My Life, My Period’ or ‘My Life, My Menstruation’.
Now, are you going to tell him, or shall I?
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/stoke_city/64432/john-carew-unveils-new-neck-tattoo-my-life-my-menstruation.html
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My mate sent me this earlier
The keen-eyed amongst you may have noticed that Stoke striker John Carew unveiled some fresh ink not so very long ago, though you may not have spotted the rather embarrassing spelling mistake that lies therein.
The big Norwegian has had a tattoo on his neck that reads Ma Vie, Mes Régles which theoretically should translate (Babelfish approved) as My Life, My Rules.
However, a French professor at Oslo University has highlighted the fact that the use of the accent over the word Régles means Carews motto translates rather differently.
Apparently, by incorporating an acute accent (é) instead of a grave accent (è), Carews daubings translate literally as either My Life, My Period or My Life, My Menstruation.
Now, are you going to tell him, or shall I?
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/stoke_city/64432/john-carew-unveils-new-neck-tattoo-my-life-my-menstruation.html
I wonder if the goals will start flowing in!
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Don't start with the bleeding puns
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The red tide will turn!
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That's one week every month he won't be available then!
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He may need the painters in when he moves house to Stoke.
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That's one week every month he won't be available then!
You mean just like before he had that tattoo?
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Why Phil? You spend a lot of time stating the bleeding obvious and you don't want puns? Not tampon your nelly.
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That is enough now, period
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But, of course, that 'French professor' is talking out of his arse. There is no such noun as "régle", only règle.
a) La règle: rule or ruler (as in cm and inches)
b) Les règles: either "the rules" or "menstrual blood"
Sorry, only the lads in year 7 would miscontrue this one and be up for a titter.
You can say "Elle est bien réglée" though, which means "Her period is regular".
Carew can sue the tatoo artist for shite use of French accents though.
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Edit: remove crap failed pun.
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John Carew Carew
Stoke won't love you
They'll probably boo you
And that'll be the end of you
We love him already! Scored 2 on Saturday, (although one given to Huth for a unintentional touch when it was going in anyway).
But I think the move has been great for him, we may be higher up the table than you but we are a smaller club, he may feel a bit more love here than he was getting at yours probably down to GH. On Saturday his body language on the pitch was first class running for lost causes and playing with a smile. I think he will be as good a signing and Tommy so thanks and good luck for the season.
John Carew at his best shouldn't be playing for Stoke. And probably not for Villa either.
However, JC 2010/11 version (last Sat excepted, obv) would struggle to get in a Championship side.
It's too easy to criticise Stoke and say they just lump it in the box. I'm sure you'll settle for a bit more of that if it results in more 3-2 wins. Set pieces were a big part of our success in the early MON years, the most productive years of JC's time with us as it goes. Coincidence? Possibly.