Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Rigadon on January 15, 2011, 10:46:36 PM
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What a fucking waste.
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Yes waste so I am convinced that we don't need to talk about him.
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James who?
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I'm sure he's not in the least bit bothered on his £100,000k per week wages.
£100,000k a week to do next to fuck all.
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Tell me about it. But everyone on here predicted it. He went from villa legend to JUST ONE OF MAN CITYS GREEDY BASTARDS
also playing on the wing where he is pants
Plus man city are so fucking lucky it pisses me off. only reason they are top is cause they are buying the league
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Yeah. Used to be our best player in the centre of midfield, now sits on the bench at Manchester City. Do keep up.
Just saw him on MOTD. Thought I'd share but if you want to pretend he doesn't exist you carry on.
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He was quite a player whilst with us. Mister Anonymous at Man City.
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Adam, as I said. Waste.
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Lol sorry mate I forgot he ain't doing fuck all lol. Bless my heart bleeds. Let the greedy fucker rot
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Sad that he isn't here anymore.
Would take him back in a heartbeat.
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Sad to see. Nothing corrupts skill and ability quite like money. Its why football's got less entertaining over the years, not more as Sky would have you believe. Lipstick on a pig....
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Let the greedy fucker rot
Did he ever want to leave? I sure as shit don't remember him saying so.
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Sad that he isn't here anymore.
Would take him back in a heartbeat.
Sad for both parties if you take the £100k a week away. In what other era can you see the player of the season moving to another club never to start?
Pretty much sums up the modern game.
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We miss him so badly in our midfield.
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Sad for both parties if you take the £100k a week away. In what other era can you see the player of the season moving to another club never to start?
Pretty much sums up the modern game.
I agree. Real sad.
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I don't buy the wages angle either. We were willing to pay Wayne Cocking Bridge £90K per week so why not our star player of last season?
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Let the greedy fucker rot
Did he ever want to leave? I sure as shit don't remember him saying so.
But he never said that he didn't want to leave??? If he didn't want to leave he didn't have to. We wanted to sell l young but he decided not to go to Liverpool. If Milner didn't want to leave he and oniel would still be here now. Ok maybe not oniel
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Is that a brute fact or is it speculation and guesswork?
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Let the greedy fucker rot
Did he ever want to leave? I sure as shit don't remember him saying so.
But he never said that he didn't want to leave??? If he didn't want to leave he didn't have to. We wanted to sell l young but he decided not to go to Liverpool. If Milner didn't want to leave he and oniel would still be here now. Ok maybe not oniel
I'm asking the question because Milner said nothing. We don't know one way or the other.
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Sandman, were we? Really? Scary.
Milner has gone from being a centre midfielder at a great club to being a sub at a fashionable club on a load of money. I've no doubt Villa offered him a fuck load of money wages wise. It's just the case that whatever a millionaire offers a billionaire can top.
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Man city are ruining this great league and smug man city fans are really pissing me off
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PMK, Man City are no more ruining the league than Chelsea were 5 year s ago. ALL fans are smug when they're winning. Proper City fans are as bemused as most of us would be.
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I'm sure no one on here predicted he end up collecting splinters on his arse on the bench at Eastlands. NOT.
Oops thats a bit dated, what with those padded and heated comfy seats in the technical area these days.
Modern football is rubbish. Greedy bastards.
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One of the reasons we are where we are is we failed to fill the void he left behind. I'd have him back in a heartbeat, providing he took a cut in wages...
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He doesn’t look like he’s enjoying it.
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He doesn’t look like he’s enjoying it.
As I predicted when he left. ££££££££ doesn't always equal happiness. He came very close to glory with us, up there he's big news until they buy somebody else to repalce him.
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The only game I've seen of that lot I've seen recently was when they lost to Everton around Christmas and he cut a very frustrated figure.
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He was already rich anyway.
He wants to win medals and he probably will- but he thought he'd be happy doing it. The problem is he's not playing and so he's not enjoying it.
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Let the greedy fucker rot
Did he ever want to leave? I sure as shit don't remember him saying so.
Surely he wouldn't have gone if he didn't want to go!
Always gave his best for us but as soon as something better came along he left - just like 99% of players do. Nowt particularly wrong with it, but I wouldn't praise him for not making a fuss.
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He's never going to be sexy enough for them. I wonder if he regrets it at all (leaving aside the £5.2M a year wages and where we are now). The move certainly can't be positive for his England career.
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I was watching the Man City highlights tonight, and seeing Milner found myself wondering how winning the title having played the tiniest of bit parts would feel as opposed to going somewhere else, where they might pay a bit less, and winning it as an integral part of the team.
Then I found myself remembering that James Milner ceased to exist the day he went, so bollocks to him. His choice to go, and maybe he made the sensible choice - he almost certainly did - but fuck him all the same.
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Let the greedy fucker rot
Did he ever want to leave? I sure as shit don't remember him saying so.
Surely he wouldn't have gone if he didn't want to go!
I don't know. All I do know is that with 99% of high profile players moving there are rumblings. With Milner there were none.
Does that not seem odd to you?
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He is dead to me, as Tony Soprano would say.
If he were still alive
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He is dead to me, as Tony Soprano would say.
Floating in the sea like that fucking rat Pussy Bonpensiero.
Actually, I've changed my mind. Like Vito Spatafore in the river with a baseball bat wedged up his harris.
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We may like him back but not so sure Houllier would, he is a fantastic proffesional and the hardest worker a club could want but top class he isn't. Always thought he would be found out on a skill level at City, what is the saying about a little fish in a big pond well James is just a tiddler.
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i'd probably buy him back if i thought we had the 14m or so that he'd cost. i know its wrong and bringing players back a 2nd time is generally a no-no but what the hell
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On the BBC website, the figures are that Milner has played in 26 games for Man City, 7 of which has been as a sub.
So it looks like he is playing more than just a "bit part" or warming the bench. He's a great player, who's playing a big part in the team that are currently top of the league. He's also getting paid a lot of money. What's wrong with that??
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On the BBC website, the figures are that Milner has played in 26 games for Man City, 7 of which has been as a sub.
So it looks like he is playing more than just a "bit part" or warming the bench. He's a great player, who's playing a big part in the team that are currently top of the league. He's also getting paid a lot of money. What's wrong with that??
He's started 15 of their 23 league matches. He's no Steve Sidwell, you're right there, but for a player who cost 26 million pounds, he's got to feel a bit miffed that he's started only a little over half their league games.
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Let the greedy fucker rot
Did he ever want to leave? I sure as shit don't remember him saying so.
Surely he wouldn't have gone if he didn't want to go!
I don't know. All I do know is that with 99% of high profile players moving there are rumblings. With Milner there were none.
Does that not seem odd to you?
To be fair to Milner he always came across as quite level-headed and not the type to bleat to the press about needing to leave like Barry did before him.
But even though he never said anything publicly about wanting to go, O'Neill did:
I had a conversation with James before the World Cup and he intimated that he’d like to go.”
“City made an offer but it did not meet our valuation. I’m sure matters will be resolved soon. James is back next week having had an extended holiday.
“There is a difference of valuation at this moment between the buying club and the selling club.
“That may well be resolved and if that is the case then absolutely fine.
“I think James’ agent has told our chief executive that he wouldn’t be signing a new contract.
“Obviously that puts a different slant on things, like everything else.
“If a fee is agreed, at the end of the day, the player can leave.”
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On the BBC website, the figures are that Milner has played in 26 games for Man City, 7 of which has been as a sub.
So it looks like he is playing more than just a "bit part" or warming the bench. He's a great player, who's playing a big part in the team that are currently top of the league. He's also getting paid a lot of money. What's wrong with that??
He started the season in the starting line up, but when Silva found his feet Milner has been benched, such a waste, but I'm sure Makoun is better than Milner.
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er......15 out of 23....is a little more than half, I think it's more like 65.2%.
Anyway, why discount the games he has come on as sub, and why only count league games?
And so next year when they are in the Champions League, are we going to discount those games to make ourselves feel better?
It' just "hysteria" to say that he is a "money grabbing bastard" and a "bit part" player "warming the bench"
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Shrek...Were you also one of the posters who thought Ireland was better than Milner when the deal went through?? I can still remember posters saying , how not only did we get a shed load of cash, we also got a better player!!
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er......15 out of 23....is a little more than half, I think it's more like 65.2%.
Anyway, why discount the games he has come on as sub, and why only count league games?
And so next year when they are in the Champions League, are we going to discount those games to make ourselves feel better?
It' just "hysteria" to say that he is a "money grabbing bastard" and a "bit part" player "warming the bench"
I didn't say he was a money grabbing bastard, I said I understood why he did it.
I also referred in my post specifically to the feeling of winning the league after having been a bit part player, that is why i used the stats for his league starts.
I'd also struggle to see the argument in suggesting that 62 percent is a little over half.
It's also nothing about us feeling bitter, or about Ireland being considered the better player, but hey ho, carry on if you like.
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Yes it is a waste and I would have him back in a second but we have to move on and concentrate on where we are right now and beat that lot from small heath without him, utv.
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Bottom line is he has played enough to get a winners medal. Great. Would love him back on loan till May to help us out of this mess.
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Yes it is a waste and I would have him back in a second but we have to move on and concentrate on where we are right now and beat that lot from small heath without him, utv.
Quite right, ie fuck him.
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A winners medal? They'll do well to finish fourth.
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Nobody's ruining any league, it's becomming more competitive than it's ever been.
Man United are gonna win it by default this year, but next year the top 6 will be alot more competitive.
It's just a shame we didn't take our chance when we had it and we might be in Spurs' position.
If we'd have got 4th in 08/09, we'd have had a great chance of getting it last year too with Liverpool's implosion. 2 years of Champions League football would have meant maybe even MON could attract decent players, ha!
But ultimately I guess we just weren't good enough so while it was an opportunity lost we've nothing to complain about.
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As for Jimmy, well Silva and Yaya Toure's form has been better so he lost his place.
If he gets a run (which he eventually will do) and he impresses he'll keep his place. Do it for long enough and he becomes a staple of the team and his place is never under threat.
He knew it'd be like this until he was able to show his best form, there isn't a chance he'd even consider leaving anytime in the next 18 months IMO.
It hurts to say it but he's better than us at this moment, he's a top 4 player and he'll get there.
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Milner would still be here if he wasn't forced to leave as part of Martin O'Neil's grand anti-Villa campaign.
Now that MON has gone, maybe we can ask Milner to come back?
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Tell me about it. But everyone on here predicted it. He went from villa legend to JUST ONE OF MAN CITYS GREEDY BASTARDS
also playing on the wing where he is pants
Plus man city are so fucking lucky it pisses me off. only reason they are top is cause they are buying the league
I know I bore for England on this one, but Man City being top is also a very sad indictment of how crap our league is these days. A team who has got very few top notch players and which has never really played any eye catching football and they are top. I would wager that if they win the prem, then it will have been a long time since such a crap team finished top of the pile...
Oh, and I agree, it is more exciting because the mediocrity has levelled everyone out somewhat. You could see this coming a mile off because for all the money the likes of Chelsea and Man City might have, there is a real paucity of top notch players around to go out and buy. So the money isn't as much of a defining advantage at is once was...
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Nobody's ruining any league, it's becomming more competitive than it's ever been.
Man United are gonna win it by default this year, but next year the top 6 will be alot more competitive.
I disagree, Man City are ruining the league as they will keep spending stupid money until they win everthing, I cant actually watch them or look at one of their goals without feeling sick (and thats not just when tevez scores)
Players like Milner,Barry,johnson will be cast aside in the next phase at least Man united and even Chelsea had some home grown players.
The only way anyone else will be able to compete will be if they get taken over by the next big multi Billionaire, maybe when UEFAs rues are introduced things may change but theirs probably some loophole that can be exploited by these mega rich clubs.
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James Milner...Is a wanker.
We should turn this into a game :)
James Milner..Who the fuck is he?
James Milner..Is a greedy Bastard
James Milner..Has an odd shaped head
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And he sits on the bench....
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I think Milner will take over from Fat Baz when they decide his legs can't continue i would have him back if we had the chance.
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Sad for both parties if you take the £100k a week away. In what other era can you see the player of the season moving to another club never to start?
Pretty much sums up the modern game.
Agree entirely. The supposedly beautiful game has become nothing more than an unpleasant and ugly business.
Five substitutes and the overplayed importance of being able to "rotate the squad" means the likelihood of a A decent professional footballer like Dean Saunders leaving a Big 4 side to join one of the also-rans, just so that he would, you know, actually play football, is seemingly gone and forgotten and not at all missed by the powers that control football. Or many of its modern-day fans.
I'm finding myself more and more drawn to the idea of relegation, the selling of any supposedly senior professionals* and a Villa side that flirts with promotion and relegation but populated by the quality of the excellent youth team structure we have in place. An English Hoffenheim.
*(with a few exceptions, for example, Friedel and especially Petrov who I think is a great leader and example for the youngsters and would not struggle with the pace as much as he sometimes is in the PL)
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He wanted to be a part of Man City's future (and present), which is bound to end with trophies considering the amount of money they spend.
You can't blame him really for wanting to be part of it. If you have no real affinity to the club you're at (which he didn't with us), then why shouldn't he go and give it a try to be part of what's happening at Man City.
He summed himself it up with a cracking performance for us against West Ham. A player doing it for money wouldn't have bothered.
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That's kind of my point though CCBB. He is a player that wants to play but isn't playing. He's wasting his career at City despite making a shed load of cash.
He has traded being the heart beat and probable captain of a great club on £80k a week for being a utility substitute for a similar sized club (albeit with more disposable money) on £100k a week.
If they won everything and he's sat on the bench what's the point?
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Milner would still be here if he wasn't forced to leave as part of Martin O'Neil's grand anti-Villa campaign.
Now that MON has gone, maybe we can ask Milner to come back?
Oh for God's sake
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Milner would still be here if he wasn't forced to leave as part of Martin O'Neil's grand anti-Villa campaign.
Now that MON has gone, maybe we can ask Milner to come back?
Oh for God's sake
I'm guessing it was a joke. If not, then it's up there with Malcolm levels of mentalness.
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He is dead to me, as Tony Soprano would say.
If he were still alive
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Controversial
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If he ever fancies playing football again for a mere £30,000 a week, I'd take him back
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pauliewalnuts - thank you for making me re-read your posts. Now I see that you wrote "the tiniest of bit parts", ok...62.5% is the tiniest of bit parts is it?
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Nobody's ruining any league, it's becomming more competitive than it's ever been.
Man United are gonna win it by default this year, but next year the top 6 will be alot more competitive.
I disagree, Man City are ruining the league as they will keep spending stupid money until they win everthing, I cant actually watch them or look at one of their goals without feeling sick (and thats not just when tevez scores)
Players like Milner,Barry,johnson will be cast aside in the next phase at least Man united and even Chelsea had some home grown players.
The only way anyone else will be able to compete will be if they get taken over by the next big multi Billionaire, maybe when UEFAs rues are introduced things may change but theirs probably some loophole that can be exploited by these mega rich clubs.
That's the really sad thing about it, as Citeh have traditionally had a youth system as good as anybody's and it will be interesting to see if they decide to continue that or just go out and buy the latest name.