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Title: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Shrek on December 23, 2010, 06:13:51 PM
No talkshite please

Apperantly we are in crisis and it's chaos at villa.

They claim it's why martin left, they are so far from the mark.

Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: ClarrieBlue on December 23, 2010, 06:28:20 PM
This idea must be catching. I picked up this article in the Irish Press today. It basically says we are going nowhere.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/aston-villa-a-club-on-the-road-to-nowhere-2471614.html
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: TheSandman on December 23, 2010, 06:55:18 PM
I don't care what bozos in the press and at talksport say.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 23, 2010, 06:56:37 PM
They're just wind up merchants.

Talkshite bastards.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 23, 2010, 06:56:52 PM
Would that be Adrian Durham? The only man who could start an arguement in an empty room. Along with Mick 'aint I funny cos im a scouser' Quinn,two of the biggest cocks on the radio.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: darren woolley on December 23, 2010, 07:13:35 PM
They don't know what they are talking about.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: WikiVilla on December 23, 2010, 07:23:05 PM
No smoke without fire
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on December 23, 2010, 07:26:12 PM
One look at the league table suggests that they may not be too far wrong.  OK we have to give it a bit more time but surely a club who are in the bottom 6 at Christmas that finished in top 6 the 3 previous seasons are a club in some sort of trouble.  There are lots of reports of rifts between the manager and the playing staff, our best player wants to leave (again) we have been knocked out of the cup by our local rivals and we have amassed just 20 points from a possible 51.  I know they over do it in the media but it's not hard to see why they are talking this way about us.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Lee on December 23, 2010, 07:42:48 PM
We have some issues, and I'll listen to anyone that wants to debate that, apart from Durham and the Fat Bowler. File under "Trash"
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: TheSandman on December 23, 2010, 07:45:08 PM
One look at the league table suggests that they may not be too far wrong.  OK we have to give it a bit more time but surely a club who are in the bottom 6 at Christmas that finished in top 6 the 3 previous seasons are a club in some sort of trouble.  There are lots of reports of rifts between the manager and the playing staff, our best player wants to leave (again) we have been knocked out of the cup by our local rivals and we have amassed just 20 points from a possible 51.  I know they over do it in the media but it's not hard to see why they are talking this way about us.

Either that or Everton every season!
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: villa1 on December 23, 2010, 07:56:30 PM
Loads of similar reports around at the moment. Either they're all jumping on the bandwagon, or there's no smoke without fire.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Lee on December 23, 2010, 08:01:41 PM
TalkShite jump on the Bandwagon? They have a permanent seat on the Security Council!


Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Pete3206 on December 23, 2010, 08:04:51 PM
Zzzzzz, yawn, etc, etc
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on December 23, 2010, 08:09:04 PM

One look at the league table suggests that they may not be too far wrong.  OK we have to give it a bit more time but surely a club who are in the bottom 6 at Christmas that finished in top 6 the 3 previous seasons are a club in some sort of trouble.  There are lots of reports of rifts between the manager and the playing staff, our best player wants to leave (again) we have been knocked out of the cup by our local rivals and we have amassed just 20 points from a possible 51.  I know they over do it in the media but it's not hard to see why they are talking this way about us.

Either that or Everton every season!
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One look at the league table suggests that they may not be too far wrong.  OK we have to give it a bit more time but surely a club who are in the bottom 6 at Christmas that finished in top 6 the 3 previous seasons are a club in some sort of trouble.  There are lots of reports of rifts between the manager and the playing staff, our best player wants to leave (again) we have been knocked out of the cup by our local rivals and we have amassed just 20 points from a possible 51.  I know they over do it in the media but it's not hard to see why they are talking this way about us.

Either that or Everton every season!

True, but I'd bet anyone that they will finish above us this season.


















































































































































































































































































Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Simba on December 23, 2010, 08:12:18 PM
with Pete3206. Don't care what they say. Time will tell. Just lazy journos.

Got no choice anyway. Don't have a hundred mill to buy the club this week. Got to buy the Mrs slippers. With furry outsides.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 23, 2010, 08:14:03 PM

One look at the league table suggests that they may not be too far wrong.  OK we have to give it a bit more time but surely a club who are in the bottom 6 at Christmas that finished in top 6 the 3 previous seasons are a club in some sort of trouble.  There are lots of reports of rifts between the manager and the playing staff, our best player wants to leave (again) we have been knocked out of the cup by our local rivals and we have amassed just 20 points from a possible 51.  I know they over do it in the media but it's not hard to see why they are talking this way about us.

Either that or Everton every season!
One look at the league table suggests that they may not be too far wrong.  OK we have to give it a bit more time but surely a club who are in the bottom 6 at Christmas that finished in top 6 the 3 previous seasons are a club in some sort of trouble.  There are lots of reports of rifts between the manager and the playing staff, our best player wants to leave (again) we have been knocked out of the cup by our local rivals and we have amassed just 20 points from a possible 51.  I know they over do it in the media but it's not hard to see why they are talking this way about us.

Either that or Everton every season!

True, but I'd bet anyone that they will finish above us this season.
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That'll make a nice change for them.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 23, 2010, 08:27:35 PM
I get it everyday with the MON arse lickings from Leicester.  These people havent got a clue...... 


In one breath they said Curtis Davis is never worth 4 million where I conclude who was the twat that paid £10 million paid for him then....
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 23, 2010, 08:34:16 PM
This idea must be catching. I picked up this article in the Irish Press today. It basically says we are going nowhere.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/aston-villa-a-club-on-the-road-to-nowhere-2471614.html

An Irish newspaper saying we were great when we had a load of Irish internationals and we aren't since an Irish manager ran away. No bias there, obviously.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Small Rodent on December 23, 2010, 08:42:35 PM
"no smoke without fire"........

All those saying this, tell me where they drink and I'll start a few rumours about there woman/man/goat and we'll see how long this bollocks phrase means something.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 23, 2010, 08:46:29 PM
No one should take TS seriously,they'll say Black is Blue just to get people to call in. The only time i listen to it is when H and J is on and Danny Kelly. Its Tabloid radio at its worse.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on December 23, 2010, 08:52:43 PM

One look at the league table suggests that they may not be too far wrong.  OK we have to give it a bit more time but surely a club who are in the bottom 6 at Christmas that finished in top 6 the 3 previous seasons are a club in some sort of trouble.  There are lots of reports of rifts between the manager and the playing staff, our best player wants to leave (again) we have been knocked out of the cup by our local rivals and we have amassed just 20 points from a possible 51.  I know they over do it in the media but it's not hard to see why they are talking this way about us.

Either that or Everton every season!
One look at the league table suggests that they may not be too far wrong.  OK we have to give it a bit more time but surely a club who are in the bottom 6 at Christmas that finished in top 6 the 3 previous seasons are a club in some sort of trouble.  There are lots of reports of rifts between the manager and the playing staff, our best player wants to leave (again) we have been knocked out of the cup by our local rivals and we have amassed just 20 points from a possible 51.  I know they over do it in the media but it's not hard to see why they are talking this way about us.

Either that or Everton every season!

True, but I'd bet anyone that they will finish above us this season.

That'll make a nice change for them.
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Didn't they pip us to fifth the season before last?  And they finished fourth a few years ago.  Anyway this is about Villa and it's no surprise the vultures in the media are circling, we are in a bit of a mess to say the least.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: TopDeck113 on December 23, 2010, 08:58:09 PM
I never cease to be amazed at how many people believe there is much truth in (a) what's written in the tabloid press and (b) what's discussed on TalkSport.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: The Man With A Stick on December 23, 2010, 09:07:28 PM
Who cares what Micky Quinn thinks, the fat, sky blue, horse-abusing prick.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Lizz on December 23, 2010, 09:21:13 PM
I never cease to be amazed at how many people believe there is much truth in (a) what's written in the tabloid press and (b) what's discussed on TalkSport.

I used to be like that, but not any more. Haven't had time to read any newspapers online or catch up with much television or radio today, the snippets I did hear were implying there's a major crisis at Liverpool.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 23, 2010, 09:24:08 PM
Didn't they pip us to fifth the season before last?  And they finished fourth a few years ago.  Anyway this is about Villa and it's no surprise the vultures in the media are circling, we are in a bit of a mess to say the least.

That'll make twice in seven seasons by my reckoning and no wonder the 'vultures in the media' are circling when our own supporters are doing their best to help them.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: gervilla on December 23, 2010, 09:25:50 PM
This idea must be catching. I picked up this article in the Irish Press today. It basically says we are going nowhere.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/aston-villa-a-club-on-the-road-to-nowhere-2471614.html

An Irish newspaper saying we were great when we had a load of Irish internationals and we aren't since an Irish manager ran away. No bias there, obviously.
Well that was a fairly pointless article.
They forgot to mention Farrelly and Kinsella.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 23, 2010, 09:27:39 PM
Quick detour down Memory Lane:

Farrelly could have been a great player if he hadn't thought he was a star before he was a first teame regular.

Back on course now.

Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on December 23, 2010, 10:00:42 PM
Didn't they pip us to fifth the season before last?  And they finished fourth a few years ago.  Anyway this is about Villa and it's no surprise the vultures in the media are circling, we are in a bit of a mess to say the least.

That'll make twice in seven seasons by my reckoning and no wonder the 'vultures in the media' are circling when our own supporters are doing their best to help them.

What by stating the obvious?  We could all just have a lovely chat about how wonderful a club we are and then everything will be alright......
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 23, 2010, 10:40:35 PM
Didn't they pip us to fifth the season before last?  And they finished fourth a few years ago.  Anyway this is about Villa and it's no surprise the vultures in the media are circling, we are in a bit of a mess to say the least.

That'll make twice in seven seasons by my reckoning and no wonder the 'vultures in the media' are circling when our own supporters are doing their best to help them.

What by stating the obvious?  We could all just have a lovely chat about how wonderful a club we are and then everything will be alright......

Thank you for proving my point without me having to.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on December 23, 2010, 11:36:38 PM
Didn't they pip us to fifth the season before last?  And they finished fourth a few years ago.  Anyway this is about Villa and it's no surprise the vultures in the media are circling, we are in a bit of a mess to say the least.

That'll make twice in seven seasons by my reckoning and no wonder the 'vultures in the media' are circling when our own supporters are doing their best to help them.

What by stating the obvious?  We could all just have a lovely chat about how wonderful a club we are and then everything will be alright......

Thank you for proving my point without me having to.

No probs.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: hawkeye on December 23, 2010, 11:43:46 PM
i dont doubt that there is some shit flying about, ageing players not performing on long term contracts, younger players coming in hungry to wear the shirt, a new managerment team imposing thier way on the way that the team plays and the squad behaves.
If the media want to pain this as a  crisis so be it. We are going through a transition, see how the players celebrated the goals against Albion that tells me more about the true spirit of the players that will be here for the long haul than some wankers in the media trying to justify thier wages.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: stevenjos on December 24, 2010, 12:03:05 AM
It is fairly obvious...
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 24, 2010, 08:56:56 AM
I didnt hear it but tell them to stick to talking about Spurs like they usually do.

How would this apology for a radio station know the first thing about anything that goes on at Villa ?

You have that overweight red faced helium headed scotsman, in his playing days the only thing that could be associated with quality football on his part was his surname which was the name of a county that could play football.
Then you have an ex yorkshire cricket player who is employed to give us his expert analysis on Manchester United and Barnsley football clubs.
Another ex cricketer telling us about all things football with his irriating mancunian accent.
Some lunatic semi scouser evertonian who frankly I have no idea what he is talking about.
In the afternoon, Pinky and Perky, two cockney sounding spurs fans  who attempt to tell humorous stories but fail while talking about Spurs, Spurs, Spurs and Spurs.
And what do they all do 90% of the time ? Talk on the phone to Spurs fans about Spurs, bloody Spurs fans going on about Harry, Harry this Harry that, hurry up Harry come on, oh yes they are all on first name terms with Harry arent they, like they bloody know Harry personally, probably know him so well they will be going round Harrys house on xmas morning and having a glass of sherry (just dont tell the aformentioned helium headed scotsman theres sherry about, or he will turn up too and they can all get pissed on Xmas sherry and talk more about Spurs Spurs and bloody Spurs) . 

Yes Talkspurs, a radio station run by Spurs fans for Spurs fans talking most of the time about Spurs.

Im off to listen to some nice calm classical music on radio 3 now.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: AV82EC on December 24, 2010, 09:07:52 AM
Ha Ha Ha  top quality rant Andy.  It reminded me a bit of David Mitchell and his Football rant.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on December 24, 2010, 11:17:03 AM
If we are in any sort of crisis it's because of two things:

1/ O'Neill quitting days before the season started having not bought a single player all summer, and
2/ The huge injury list we've subsequently endured. Cast your mind back to the summer and never in your wildest imagination would you have expected to see a pretty regular Villa midfield of Hogg, Bannan and Clark!

Despite having had to throw in loads of kids simultaneously, I've seen signs that we'll be a far better team under Houllier, longer term. He's shown he's not a manager who will have his favourites and play them regardless of performance, unlike O'Neill.

We'll prove those Talk Shite tossers wrong..
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Shrek on December 24, 2010, 11:51:19 AM
Well that was a few pages of ranting.

I think people outside of Villa might think we are in crisis, but us Villains k ow what's really going on.

And on Talksport, as annoying as some of the presenters are, I think it is by far the best sport radio station around.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 24, 2010, 11:54:16 AM
I didnt hear it but tell them to stick to talking about Spurs like they usually do.

How would this apology for a radio station know the first thing about anything that goes on at Villa ?

You have that overweight red faced helium headed scotsman, in his playing days the only thing that could be associated with quality football on his part was his surname which was the name of a county that could play football.
Then you have an ex yorkshire cricket player who is employed to give us his expert analysis on Manchester United and Barnsley football clubs.
Another ex cricketer telling us about all things football with his irriating mancunian accent.
Some lunatic semi scouser evertonian who frankly I have no idea what he is talking about.
In the afternoon, Pinky and Perky, two cockney sounding spurs fans  who attempt to tell humorous stories but fail while talking about Spurs, Spurs, Spurs and Spurs.
And what do they all do 90% of the time ? Talk on the phone to Spurs fans about Spurs, bloody Spurs fans going on about Harry, Harry this Harry that, hurry up Harry come on, oh yes they are all on first name terms with Harry arent they, like they bloody know Harry personally, probably know him so well they will be going round Harrys house on xmas morning and having a glass of sherry (just dont tell the aformentioned helium headed scotsman theres sherry about, or he will turn up too and they can all get pissed on Xmas sherry and talk more about Spurs Spurs and bloody Spurs) . 

Yes Talkspurs, a radio station run by Spurs fans for Spurs fans talking most of the time about Spurs.

Im off to listen to some nice calm classical music on radio 3 now.

 Don't let TS get to you like this!! It use to wind me up but i ration myself to a couple of hours a day. I think youre being harsh on H and J,especially Paul Hawksbee,as I think he stops my theory that all Spurs fans are cnuts. Parry is a court jester charachter,but I agree with you about ex cricketers talking rubbish about things they dont know about,they might as well have me on there talking about the ashes.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Mister E on December 24, 2010, 03:22:42 PM
Well that was a few pages of ranting.

I think people outside of Villa might think we are in crisis, but us Villains k ow what's really going on.

And on Talksport, as annoying as some of the presenters are, I think it is by far the best sport radio station around.
I assume you'reemploying a bit of irony here - I just can't work out which part of the above is supposed to be! Can you give us a clue, please?!
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Shrek on December 24, 2010, 03:48:17 PM
Why is it ironic?
We look like a club in shambles! But we know we are not.

I listen to talksport all the time, if you don't like it then great, but stop telling me.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Mister E on December 24, 2010, 04:06:35 PM
Why is it ironic?
We look like a club in shambles! But we know we are not.

I listen to talksport all the time, if you don't like it then great, but stop telling me.
Couldn't work out whether "but us Villains k ow what's really going on" was ironic ...
 ... or whether "I think it is by far the best sport radio station around" was sarcasm.
Each to their own.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: KevinGage on December 24, 2010, 04:12:32 PM

Then you have an ex yorkshire cricket player who is employed to give us his expert analysis on Manchester United and Barnsley football clubs.


Is this the doughnut that once said something along the lines of  "Everyone knows Spurs are my fourth club," or something equally as inane.

I've heard of fans of small or lower division clubs supporting/looking out for one of the big boys or vice versa. Which explains why a few B-lose fans I know also have a soft spot for the likes of Everton and Chelsea. True story. 

Well I guess if your lot are fighting it out with the might of Carlisle and Brentford for Leyland Daf honours you'd need a bit of escapism.

It's not a notion I've ever entertained, my generosity of spirit only extends to having a few clubs that I dislike slightly less than others.

But anyone claiming to support four clubs (from the same country -might be a bit different if you're a jet setting type and have more than one city you feel at home in) is clearly some kind of moron.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: The Man With A Stick on December 24, 2010, 05:36:26 PM
And on Talksport, as annoying as some of the presenters are, I think it is by far the best sport radio station around.

That's a bit like saying Norwich City are comfortably the best team in Norfolk.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Dribbler on December 24, 2010, 06:26:48 PM
This idea must be catching. I picked up this article in the Irish Press today. It basically says we are going nowhere.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/aston-villa-a-club-on-the-road-to-nowhere-2471614.html

How on earth did that diatribe make it into a national newspaper? It's not even an article, it's just someone slagging off our club and suggesting that somehow the club has let down those glorious Irish talents of O'Neill, Dunne and Ireland. I thought it was possiblly the otherway round recently. Is Danniel McDonnell the pen name of Martin O'Neill by chance?
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Mister E on December 24, 2010, 08:47:57 PM
This idea must be catching. I picked up this article in the Irish Press today. It basically says we are going nowhere.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/aston-villa-a-club-on-the-road-to-nowhere-2471614.html

How on earth did that diatribe make it into a national newspaper? It's not even an article, it's just someone slagging off our club and suggesting that somehow the club has let down those glorious Irish talents of O'Neill, Dunne and Ireland. I thought it was possiblly the otherway round recently. Is Danniel McDonnell the pen name of Martin O'Neill by chance?
I'll admit: I've only just read it. A pointless waste of time.
Pointless, put together by a pointless individual.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Fasth56 on December 24, 2010, 09:21:14 PM
I get it everyday with the MON arse lickings from Leicester.  These people havent got a clue...... 


In one breath they said Curtis Davis is never worth 4 million where I conclude who was the twat that paid £10 million paid for him then....

Every Leicester fan (in Hinckley) I know holds him as their "god" and it's the club that got it wrong, they also say Curtis Davis is not worth the money. Worse still the Coventry fans joining in. Juan Pablo is your place on Rugby Rd?

84
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Lambert and Payne on December 25, 2010, 08:11:38 PM
If we are in any sort of crisis it's because of two things:

1/ O'Neill quitting days before the season started having not bought a single player all summer, and
2/ The huge injury list we've subsequently endured. Cast your mind back to the summer and never in your wildest imagination would you have expected to see a pretty regular Villa midfield of Hogg, Bannan and Clark!

Despite having had to throw in loads of kids simultaneously, I've seen signs that we'll be a far better team under Houllier, longer term. He's shown he's not a manager who will have his favourites and play them regardless of performance, unlike O'Neill.

We'll prove those Talk Shite tossers wrong..
Exactly what i was thinking but beat me too it
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 26, 2010, 10:40:00 AM
Im not usually one to come across all paranoid and say that someone is Anti Villa,but just hearing Mick Quinn has confirmend that he is. Not sure if its because he played for Coventry,but as he's a Liverpool fan he obviously has a dislike of GH. Fair enough if you dislike them,but at least show them respect you fat piece of shit as GH has achieved more in the game than an average player from the 80s ever did.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Ads on December 26, 2010, 11:18:34 AM
Fatty Quin is very anti-Villa. It must go back to his Coventry days as you say.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Billy Walker on December 26, 2010, 12:02:04 PM
I was listening to this this morning and arrived at the same conclusion (that Quinn has nothing good to say about Villa).  I can only conclude that the constant stick Villa fans gave him must really have got to him.  Even in the O'Neill days he was constantly belittling and writing Villa off.

It was interesting how he was quick to defend Blackburn's new manager but not Houllier ("Past it" was Quinn's assessment of GH - despite him being the same age as the likes of Hodgson and Redknapp.)  The media in the UK is a pretty strange beast when you think about it, it's strange how they seem to arrive at a common consensus over certain things.  In this instance I've seen very little positive stuff written about GH - I hope he proves them all wrong with us.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Villa'Zawg on December 26, 2010, 01:31:14 PM
Our record since GH joined us is appalling, that's what is driving the consensus. He needs to win some games before you'll see any positive stuff written in the press.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Billy Walker on December 26, 2010, 02:24:18 PM
You have a point Villadawg!  Results are the bottom line at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: WikiVilla on December 26, 2010, 02:50:46 PM
Fairly dour assessment on Gillette SS now too
Merse, Solako, Stelling etc all fairly down beat and saying we're in grave danger of being sucked into the R battle
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: jonzy85 on December 26, 2010, 02:54:34 PM
Hard to disagree with them isnt it?
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Irreverent ad on December 26, 2010, 03:07:17 PM
Fairly dour assessment on Gillette SS now too
Merse, Solako, Stelling etc all fairly down beat and saying we're in grave danger of being sucked into the R battle

What a load of crap that was! No mention that we have had Petrov, Reo-Coker, Delph, Heskey, Agbonlahor etc out for long periods.

It is better for sky to talk about us possibly getting relegated that Wigan! What do those brains of britan know?!!

We will be close in the next few weeks. BUT look at our fixtures in Feb, March & April. We have some very winnable games.

Everton are ONE point ahead of us having played a game MORE. Yet they could possible make Europe and have a squad that could challenge the top 4 if they started better.

Where is the consistancy?
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on December 26, 2010, 03:32:23 PM
You have a point Villadawg!  Results are the bottom line at the end of the day.

Not according to the MON-haters! He was slaughtered by many on here, even though results tended to be good.

GH is trying to make us play a different style of football, which will inevitably lead to some bad resulsts along the way. Let's take it on the chin and look forward to (hopefully) watching some good passing football.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: davevillan on December 26, 2010, 03:42:36 PM
Its easy to look at results/table and pass judgement etc.
The bottom line is we were dropped in the brown stuff by our ex.manager leaving as he did. If you look at it positively we are only 7pts off 6th place this season, and with all our injuries/off field problems, thats not far away.
Once we get everyone back, with the new players hopefully to come next month, we will be in a much stronger position, and aiming for top6-8 is not unrealistic.
To say we are in danger of getting sucked into a relegation battle demonstrates a lack of knowledge imo.
Remember mon's first season when we went nov/dec/most jan without winning, then with the purchase of young/carew, we went 9 games unbeaten at the end finishing comfortably mid=table.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: cdward on December 26, 2010, 04:40:04 PM
Fairly dour assessment on Gillette SS now too
Merse, Solako, Stelling etc all fairly down beat and saying we're in grave danger of being sucked into the R battle

In fairness they were responding to a point made by Cuellar that we can still finish top 4. The point they were making is we are closer to relegation than top 4, and with the current set up of younger/inexperienced players, the signs that we will be clearing out quite a few players in January, and the point that Randy seems to have closed the transfer fund (nothing spent on players in 2010), they have a fair point, that coupled with some of the displays (Arsenal first half, Liverpool) who can blame them.
Villas future currently looks bleak not bright.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: myf on December 27, 2010, 12:48:14 PM
Fatty Quin is very anti-Villa. It must go back to his Coventry days as you say.

He is a fat ugly cock of the highest order.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Pete3206 on December 27, 2010, 01:16:20 PM
Renta-gob's like Quinn may grate, but he has a point.

Blaming O'Neill for everything that's gone wrong won't wash. The current manager's organisational skills are, in my opinion, questionable to say the least.
We are losing too many games and relegation is very real possibility. Even members of the current squad realise this.

Marc admits it's brown trousers time (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/12/27/aston-villa-players-admit-relegation-fight-as-heskey-added-to-injury-list-97319-27891786/)

Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Zhong Yi on December 27, 2010, 02:06:11 PM

You have that overweight red faced helium headed scotsman, in his playing days the only thing that could be associated with quality football on his part was his surname which was the name of a county that could play football.
Then you have an ex yorkshire cricket player who is employed to give us his expert analysis on Manchester United and Barnsley football clubs.
Another ex cricketer telling us about all things football with his irriating mancunian accent.
Some lunatic semi scouser evertonian who frankly I have no idea what he is talking about.
In the afternoon, Pinky and Perky, two cockney sounding spurs fans  who attempt to tell humorous stories but fail while talking about Spurs, Spurs, Spurs and Spurs.
And what do they all do 90% of the time ? Talk on the phone to Spurs fans about Spurs, bloody Spurs fans going on about Harry, Harry this Harry that, hurry up Harry come on, oh yes they are all on first name terms with Harry arent they, like they bloody know Harry personally, probably know him so well they will be going round Harrys house on xmas morning and having a glass of sherry (just dont tell the aformentioned helium headed scotsman theres sherry about, or he will turn up too and they can all get pissed on Xmas sherry and talk more about Spurs Spurs and bloody Spurs) . 

Im off to listen to some nice calm classical music on radio 3 now.


I couldn't agree more with some of these opinions, including listening to Radio 3. My own opinion is that H & J as they like to be affectionally referred to are so piss poor un-funny it is downright criminal. Not once have I laughed at any of their so called clips of the week. It is my opinion that thye are two up there own arse Londoners, playing it their own way in the comfort zone on a working class radio sation...

As for talkSPORT, I was a dedicated listener for many years going back to about 1997, when it wasn't even talkSPORT in these years some of the presenters they have had on the station have been despicable and clearly biased on one subject or another. Step forward James Whale and his asshole of a sideckick Ash, Danny Kelly, Mark Green, Mike Mendoza, Mike Dicken (RIP) and of course self proclaimed Shock Jock "tell your kids you love 'em" Jon Gaunt. Despite its Villa connections with the likes of Andy Townsend, Ray Houghton and to an extent Stan Collymore, the station has long sounded like an on air equivalent of The Sun newspaper.

In the defence of Adrian Durham, going back to the Gregory era, when Villa occasionally topped the table, he was pro-Villa and has never  come across as having something against the club, he winds people up for sure but he does know his football. Actually at the early days of TS he was pretty well respected for his input into developing the various football shows on the station it is only in recent years his persona has been shaped to resemble a numpty. Why he has allowed this to happen is a bit weird.

 
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Rigadon on December 27, 2010, 02:06:34 PM
The last bit from Faulkner is interesting:

It sounds like a cliché, but January’s never been a great time to buy.

“You tend to be a bit more reactive than proactive, so you’re trying to fix problems rather than come up with real solutions.

“But if the right opportunity is there in January which makes us better then we’ll look to do things.”

I fully expect to see Robbie Keane through the door.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: john e on December 27, 2010, 05:20:20 PM
talksport talking about the Villa is a bit like your mates talking about your Wife,

yeah you know she's put on a bit of weight, and her arse is the size of a small ocean,
but you still dont want them saying it
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 27, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Let's be honest, after 3 reasonable decent seasons of finishing 6th, we were due a duff one. It's the Villa way, especially after everything that happened pre season. Not just O'Neill going but Milner leaving has ripped the heart out of the playing 11.

It's funny but look back just two seasons and we'd just played out a fantastic 2-2 draw at home to Arsenal and were very much seen in the media as the team on the up especially as we were in the top 4 at that point.

Spurs meanwhile had just drawn 0-0 at home to Fulham, were in the bottom 6 after a couple of months in charge for Redknapp and had just sold their two best players in Keane and berbatov. Sound familar?

I think Spurs finished 8th or 9th that season after the infamous 2 points from 8 games start.

So I think that shows how quickly things can change in football, if you get a bit of momentum and actually make some good signings.

You have to say Redknapp has although ironically quite a few of them have been old players brought back.

I'd still give Houllier to this time next year and then have a proper assessment. We won't be relegated and let's see what he comes up with in the next two transfer windows.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Shrek on January 02, 2011, 04:13:27 PM
Collymore is giving the Chelsea fans some stick, very funny, Clark has just been on and said dressing room a tad disappointed to not win.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: TheSandman on January 02, 2011, 04:18:56 PM
I was listening to their commentary.

Stan's reaction to the equaliser was brilliant stuff.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 02, 2011, 04:25:58 PM
What did Stan do?
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 02, 2011, 04:30:08 PM
I turned TalkSport on shortly after the match and Alan Brazil was talking, saying that a load of the Chelsea fans around them were having a go at Collymore for his celebrations, which they then played again.

He was as excited as any of us.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 02, 2011, 04:32:03 PM
Brilliant.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Pete3206 on January 02, 2011, 04:44:08 PM
A pity he couldn't have been as animated when he was playing for us.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: atomicjam on January 02, 2011, 04:57:23 PM

Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 02, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
A pity he couldn't have been as animated when he was playing for us.

True, but he's still a Villa fan, and it's nice to hear someone in the media so clearly on our side.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Apyadg on January 02, 2011, 05:01:57 PM
The Chelsea fans complaining about Collymore's obvious bias must have not heard the other commentator reaching orgasm when Terry scored.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Shrek on January 02, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
Stan is great and shares my view that Chelsea should never had had a penalty.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Nev on January 02, 2011, 05:04:29 PM
Wholly unprofessional, biased and unbecoming of a national broadcaster.


Fuckin great!

Sky had an ex Chelsea coach and the cousin of one of their star players. Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 02, 2011, 05:06:03 PM
that is amazing.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 02, 2011, 05:06:15 PM
Stan Collymore's mind. University theses could be written about it. 
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Shrek on January 02, 2011, 05:23:37 PM
Wholly unprofessional, biased and unbecoming of a national broadcaster.


Fuckin great!

Sky had an ex Chelsea coach and the cousin of one of their star players. Fuck 'em.

It's not unprofessional, stan said he is a villa fan and played for villa and that he doesn't have too be neutral.

Great to have someone on our side having a pop at the sky 4 in the media for a change.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: pmk1981 on January 02, 2011, 05:46:02 PM
did you hear alan fucking smith on sky after trhey got their 2nd goal?  " just enough time for chelsea to score a winner "

dick head !!
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Michel Sibble on January 02, 2011, 06:18:36 PM
Aww at the little headhunters getting upset at us stealing a point.

Like everyone said, fuck 'em
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: richard moore on January 02, 2011, 06:34:59 PM
Aww at the little headhunters getting upset at us stealing a point.

Like everyone said, fuck 'em

I think that is very unfair. Most Chelsea fans I know wouldn't even have known they were playing today...
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Villa'Zawg on January 02, 2011, 08:15:57 PM
Ashley Young's celebration following his penalty was class. Hand cupped to his ear and laughing maniacally at the Chelsea fans as he ran along the goal line in front of them.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: JJ-AV on January 02, 2011, 08:38:02 PM
did you hear alan fucking smith on sky after trhey got their 2nd goal?  " just enough time for chelsea to score a winner "

dick head !!

He's a Villa fan too. Poor.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: JJ-AV on January 02, 2011, 08:40:21 PM
Ashley Young's celebration following his penalty was class. Hand cupped to his ear and laughing maniacally at the Chelsea fans as he ran along the goal line in front of them.

He's such a little dickhead and I love him for it. He and Gabby are some of the best wind up merchants about in the Prem... Always trying to provoke reactions but never quite overstep the mark.

Please don't go, Ash :-(
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: thejoker on January 02, 2011, 08:41:27 PM
To be fair, most of us were saying it too...  :)
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Legion on January 02, 2011, 08:43:48 PM
Ashley Young's celebration following his penalty was class. Hand cupped to his ear and laughing maniacally at the Chelsea fans as he ran along the goal line in front of them.

Like this?

Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Matt C on January 02, 2011, 08:48:18 PM
'Have some of that'

Marvelous.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Shrek on January 03, 2011, 12:34:20 AM
One of the best goals I can remember that is, I had an undercover everton fan who didn't say a thing till there equaliser sat next too me in the pub
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Post by: eamonn on January 03, 2011, 04:03:30 AM
Oh, was there a fanzone thingy on Sky for this? That would be interesting to see, especially if it's the ''Ooh, look at me tan'' fella.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Mister E on January 03, 2011, 09:05:49 AM
TBF, the text I got from one of my Chelsea-supporting friends before the game was "Chelsea are really poor right now and Villa stand a chance". He texted me afterwards to re-affirm the point!
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: richard moore on January 03, 2011, 10:51:45 AM
did you hear alan fucking smith on sky after trhey got their 2nd goal?  " just enough time for chelsea to score a winner "

dick head !!

He's a Villa fan too. Poor.

He probably has to read from a pre-prepared Sky 'Sky 4' script so that they have some nice little soundbites for all the Chelsea fans tuning into the game for the first time later in the evening...
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: villa1 on January 03, 2011, 01:01:05 PM
Didn't realise he was one of us.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Villa'Zawg on January 03, 2011, 01:23:54 PM
TBF, the text I got from one of my Chelsea-supporting friends before the game was "Chelsea are really poor right now and Villa stand a chance". He texted me afterwards to re-affirm the point!

Your friend is right, their form since the beginning of November has been almost as bad as ours.

Chelsea     P10     W2     D4     L4     F9     A15     GD -6     Pts 10

Villa     P10     W2  D3     L5     F14     A24  GD -10     Pts 9
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 03, 2011, 01:30:55 PM
Didn't realise he was one of us.

Yep, I think he comes from Alvechurch.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Legion on January 03, 2011, 04:43:54 PM
Cannock.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Lee on January 31, 2011, 12:42:47 PM
A pity he couldn't have been as animated when he was playing for us.

True, but he's still a Villa fan, and it's nice to hear someone in the media so clearly on our side.

Really?

Initially, was of the same thought, but he has become a proper TalkBalls contributor these days. I know the injury crisis has taken its toll this season, but he GH has used a lot of our young starlets.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/kickoff/blog/2010-09-09/collymore-houllier-might-bring-too-many-foreigners (http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/kickoff/blog/2010-09-09/collymore-houllier-might-bring-too-many-foreigners)
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Lee on January 31, 2011, 12:45:18 PM
Oh ... and we want to know who also buys into the Cult of MON?

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivetime/blog/2010-08-09/collymore-oneill-was-frustrated-lack-funds (http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivetime/blog/2010-08-09/collymore-oneill-was-frustrated-lack-funds)

We moan at the Nationals for some of the crap they say about our Club, but when this rubbish comes from "one of our own", just shows how they view us.
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Jarpie on January 31, 2011, 04:11:07 PM
Talkshite was just spouting about how Aston Villa was "desperate" so they bought Bent for 24 million pounds, ten too much...are they always this thick hicks?
Title: Re: Villa one of the topics on talksport now.
Post by: Bigmelonface on January 31, 2011, 11:19:16 PM
Apparently according to Talk Sport Chelsea are also in decline, two words always spring to mind in cases like this and they are:

Cock Piss
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