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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: eastie on December 23, 2010, 09:06:44 AM
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http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Stephen-Ireland-threatens-to-run-down-his-Aston-Villa-contract-if-he-s-not-given-a-transfer-to-Everton-Celtic-or-Fulham-article656051.html
what a total tosser !
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He's all talk.
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From the rag that never makes things up.
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The Mirror.....mmmm
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Most sport reporters from The Mirror are tossers too...
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I thought he'd already started his non-playing protest.
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Since, as the article states, both Ireland and Villa accept a move is inevitable, would a gesture like this not be totally pointless?
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Since, as the article states, both Ireland and Villa accept a move is inevitable, would a gesture like this not be totally pointless?
not if he is saying he wont take a wage drop and we have to make up any difference in wages wherever he goes -greed is ruining football!
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The Mirror full of shite.
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stephen ireland full of shite!nothing he does would surprise me .
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No quotes and it's in the Mirror. I'm not doubting Ireland wants to leave but this is sensationalised beyond all recognition.
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Ireland has got us by the balls, the clubs he is thinking of going wont pay him what he is on here, so we will have to pay him off like Man City did, makes me feel sick the greedy tramp.
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Let the twat rot then, see how he feels in two years of his four year contract.
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A player who is on £3m a year wants to leave a club where he has done fuck all - of course he will get his transfer, Mirror talking bollocks again, no surprises there then.
If he wants to play hard ball, just let slip his address, i'm sure 40k Villa fans will all send him a Xmas card, and some friendly advice on where his future lies.
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I'm sure we could sack him if he did some sort of sit-in or refuse to play?
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cant do that nastylee , we would just be wasting millions and he wuld be laughing his bollocks off- we have to cut our losses and get rid , hiuge error to buy him and pay him those wages when managerless - this one cannot be blamed on mon!
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they are saying he would just do the bare minimum to get his wages...
although its in the mirror, and is probably just as much nonsense as the other "article" floating about that says we cant afford to buy in january and will only loan...
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I think Man City are paying part of his wages now so it wouldnt surprise me one bit
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cant do that nastylee , we would just be wasting millions and he wuld be laughing his bollocks off- we have to cut our losses and get rid , hiuge error to buy him and pay him those wages when managerless - this one cannot be blamed on mon!
I think I'd put more of the blame at Houllier's door to be honest. Houllier's been just a big a disappointment as Ireland, and his man management skills and charisma make O'Neill look like JFK.
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I think Man City are paying part of his wages now so it wouldnt surprise me one bit
Why would Man City be paying some of his wages?
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Because he took a huge drop in wage to come here man city are probably making up some of the difference and I guess he will insist we do the same if he moves for less wages- with the length of his contract he has us by the balls I'm afraid to say!
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cant do that nastylee , we would just be wasting millions and he wuld be laughing his bollocks off- we have to cut our losses and get rid , hiuge error to buy him and pay him those wages when managerless - this one cannot be blamed on mon!
I think I'd put more of the blame at Houllier's door to be honest. Houllier's been just a big a disappointment as Ireland, and his man management skills and charisma make O'Neill look like JFK.
I'm STUNNED at that comment, STUNNED !
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Because he took a huge drop in wage to come here man city are probably making up some of the difference and I guess he will insist we do the same if he moves for less wages- with the length of his contract he has us by the balls I'm afraid to say!
Why would Man City agree to that? Didn't he get compo off them?
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I think man city can afford to pay people off for to help get rid but we do not have the resources that they have- not sure on the transfer rules now but in the past a players used to get a small cut of the transfer fee if he hadn't asked for a move.
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cant do that nastylee , we would just be wasting millions and he wuld be laughing his bollocks off- we have to cut our losses and get rid , hiuge error to buy him and pay him those wages when managerless - this one cannot be blamed on mon!
I think I'd put more of the blame at Houllier's door to be honest. Houllier's been just a big a disappointment as Ireland, and his man management skills and charisma make O'Neill look like JFK.
I'm STUNNED at that comment, STUNNED !
Are YOU?
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But if they paid his contract off, which if I remember correctly they did and that's what held up the deal. I don't see why they'd be paying him money every month.
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cant do that nastylee , we would just be wasting millions and he wuld be laughing his bollocks off- we have to cut our losses and get rid , hiuge error to buy him and pay him those wages when managerless - this one cannot be blamed on mon!
I think I'd put more of the blame at Houllier's door to be honest. Houllier's been just a big a disappointment as Ireland, and his man management skills and charisma make O'Neill look like JFK.
Because the players you would expect to make trouble (Ireland, Carew etc.) have kicked up a fuss, whereas others (Heskey, Downing) are in the best form of their Villa careers he's a bad man manager?
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cant do that nastylee , we would just be wasting millions and he wuld be laughing his bollocks off- we have to cut our losses and get rid , hiuge error to buy him and pay him those wages when managerless - this one cannot be blamed on mon!
I think I'd put more of the blame at Houllier's door to be honest. Houllier's been just a big a disappointment as Ireland, and his man management skills and charisma make O'Neill look like JFK.
Unfortunately I couldn't agree more
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Totally disagree, Im glad houllier is having a clearout and getting rid of the players like Ireland, Carew and sidwell - these players should hang their head in shame for the lack of effort and lack of pride they have shown for their team in recent times- good riddance to them and well done gerard!
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what a dick....
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cant do that nastylee , we would just be wasting millions and he wuld be laughing his bollocks off- we have to cut our losses and get rid , hiuge error to buy him and pay him those wages when managerless - this one cannot be blamed on mon!
I think I'd put more of the blame at Houllier's door to be honest. Houllier's been just a big a disappointment as Ireland, and his man management skills and charisma make O'Neill look like JFK.
Because the players you would expect to make trouble (Ireland, Carew etc.) have kicked up a fuss, whereas others (Heskey, Downing) are in the best form of their Villa careers he's a bad man manager?
Those two players have done well, granted. Unfortunately, if you want to play that game, I'd counter your point with the complete loss of form of Luke Young, Richard Dunne, James Collins, Stephen Warnock (ie our entire defence) and Agbonlahor. He also kept the underperforming and unfit Dunne in the team at the expense of Cuellar. He's far too happy to shout his mouth off in the press for my liking, and is a PR disaster area.
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Let him run his contract down and sod the money. Don't allow him to play for the reserves or anybody else. When his contract has run out nobody will employ him again having not touched a football for 2 years + and he will be a rich pariah. Expensive lesson, yes.
This is why I used to be sacked all the time in Champ manager! I wish there was an option in the game to make players who concede penalties etc. do a cross-country run at 7am next morining.
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cant do that nastylee , we would just be wasting millions and he wuld be laughing his bollocks off- we have to cut our losses and get rid , hiuge error to buy him and pay him those wages when managerless - this one cannot be blamed on mon!
I think I'd put more of the blame at Houllier's door to be honest. Houllier's been just a big a disappointment as Ireland, and his man management skills and charisma make O'Neill look like JFK.
I'm STUNNED at that comment, STUNNED !
Are YOU?
Did you see GH's interview post Liverpool lovefest ?
He said he was 'stunned' by the fans' reaction.
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More crap from The Mirror. You should know better by now East.
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cant do that nastylee , we would just be wasting millions and he wuld be laughing his bollocks off- we have to cut our losses and get rid , hiuge error to buy him and pay him those wages when managerless - this one cannot be blamed on mon!
I think I'd put more of the blame at Houllier's door to be honest. Houllier's been just a big a disappointment as Ireland, and his man management skills and charisma make O'Neill look like JFK.
Because the players you would expect to make trouble (Ireland, Carew etc.) have kicked up a fuss, whereas others (Heskey, Downing) are in the best form of their Villa careers he's a bad man manager?
Those two players have done well, granted. Unfortunately, if you want to play that game, I'd counter your point with the complete loss of form of Luke Young, Richard Dunne, James Collins, Stephen Warnock (ie our entire defence) and Agbonlahor. He also kept the underperforming and unfit Dunne in the team at the expense of Cuellar. He's far too happy to shout his mouth off in the press for my liking, and is a PR disaster area.
I'd argue Luke Young hasn't done too badly apart from the first goal against Arsenal and that Agbonlahor has been injured most of the time which I can't blame Houllier for, and Collins' dip in form is more down to having Dunne next to him as he played much better once Cuellar came in.
And we've still had Albrighton, Bannan, Hogg, Clark and Lichaj all come in and do well
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I think one of the main reasons for some players not at their best is that we are now trying to play much more of a passing game- some of mons players were functional in his system but are not good enough in possession to play a pass and move style of football and therefore we are looking at several changes throughout the team.
There were a lot of players on easy street under o neill who were virtually undroppable- now we have a new manager with fresh ideas and I look forward to him rebuilding the squad and improving us , but it will be another year or so before we see the real benefits, o neill finished 11th in his 1st season and I expect similar this year.
Clampy I don't write the headlines , this is a discussion forum and the report is being discussed in this thread- that's what makes this the best forum in my view.I agree the mirror report a lot of trash but not all trash.
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Clampy I don't write the headlines , this is a discussion forum and the report is being discussed in this thread- that's what makes this the best forum in my view.I agree the mirror report a lot of trash but not all trash.
I appreciate that East but it's most likely crap, written by the same newspaper, by the same journalist who makes his living making up crap about us and people like you are paying his wages and falling for it. Tomorrow it'll be another negative Villa story.
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Oh the irony!
How many on this board thought his actions when demanding a pay off from Man City were perfectly legitimate?
Be carefull what you wish on your enemies........
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Unfortunately, if you want to play that game, I'd counter your point with the complete loss of form of Luke Young, Richard Dunne, James Collins, Stephen Warnock (ie our entire defence) and Agbonlahor.
Considering Agbonlahor has hardly figured due to injury it's a bit harsh to say he's lost form let alone who's fault it is.
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hey clampy, please give me some credit , i do not pay for the mirror -i browse sports headlines online for free , no way would i buy the mirror , im a sun man and have been for 35 yrs since as a 10 yr old i read my grandads paper and saw page 3!
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cant do that nastylee , we would just be wasting millions and he wuld be laughing his bollocks off- we have to cut our losses and get rid , hiuge error to buy him and pay him those wages when managerless - this one cannot be blamed on mon!
I think I'd put more of the blame at Houllier's door to be honest. Houllier's been just a big a disappointment as Ireland, and his man management skills and charisma make O'Neill look like JFK.
Because the players you would expect to make trouble (Ireland, Carew etc.) have kicked up a fuss, whereas others (Heskey, Downing) are in the best form of their Villa careers he's a bad man manager?
Those two players have done well, granted. Unfortunately, if you want to play that game, I'd counter your point with the complete loss of form of Luke Young, Richard Dunne, James Collins, Stephen Warnock (ie our entire defence) and Agbonlahor. He also kept the underperforming and unfit Dunne in the team at the expense of Cuellar. He's far too happy to shout his mouth off in the press for my liking, and is a PR disaster area.
Agbonlahor hasn't been fully fit all season. But the defense I'd agree with.
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Oh the irony!
How many on this board thought his actions when demanding a pay off from Man City were perfectly legitimate?
Be carefull what you wish on your enemies........
The difference being he clearly didn't want to leave Man City whereas if the reports are to be believed he can't wait to get out of here. In that case why should we pay him off?
His agent feeding insider quotes to the press spouting how desperate he Ireland is to leave instead of getting his ''client'' to hand-in an official transfer request, thereby not missing out on a loyalty fee, is the thing that stinks most from this.
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I'm sure we could sack him if he did some sort of sit-in or refuse to play?
I think we could and as we would still hold his player registration could stop him signing for another club too.
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The difference being he clearly didn't want to leave Man City whereas if the reports are to be believed he can't wait to get out of here. In that case why should we pay him off?
Perfectly correct. If this is the reason for his threatened "sit in" my advice would be give him some sandwiches and leave him to it.
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hey clampy, please give me some credit , i do not pay for the mirror -i browse sports headlines online for free , no way would i buy the mirror , im a sun man and have been for 35 yrs since as a 10 yr old i read my grandads paper and saw page 3!
I would'nt even browse The Mirror for free, it's an atrocious paper. The Sun's a slightly better paper Sports wise. This James Nursey in The Mirror seems to have one job and that's to write negative stories about us. I see he's also written a piece about us selling Ashley Young in Jan. I'd suggest next time he writes something about us, ignore it, it's bound to be cobblers.
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But if the reports are correct his sit in means he will just turn up when told to report for training and get paid- he will not be breaking his contract , just running it down and picking up his money - which is the last thing we need- we must hold our hands up and accept it's been a costly mistake and get what we can for him and get rid.
If the only way is to subsidise a move elsewhere then it's still better than having his poisonous attitude about the place and we can move on.
We have made many costly errors in the past , curcic and balanan being 2 , and we make others in the future-that's football as is the good ones like platt, yorke, milner- it's swings and roundabouts.
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But if the reports are correct his sit in means he will just turn up when told to report for training and get paid- he will not be breaking his contract
So basically doing what he has done for the last five months? And behaving like most players do?
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I think one of the main reasons for some players not at their best is that we are now trying to play much more of a passing game- some of mons players were functional in his system but are not good enough in possession to play a pass and move style of football and therefore we are looking at several changes throughout the team.
I think this also..
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But if the reports are correct his sit in means he will just turn up when told to report for training and get paid- he will not be breaking his contract
So basically doing what he has done for the last five months? And behaving like most players do?
And will be classified by the business as damaged goods.
Most clubs know that the players have to much power - this will only aid them in that, so I guess (many) clubs will not touch him after that
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I don't know how much truth there is in this, I can only judge his performances in a Villa shirt. He seems keen for the first few minutes and then loses any semblance of attitude. I'd like to think he'll come good for us but not sure what his best position is, and how it would affect the rest of the side, balance, etc.
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If true. Would all villa fans please look for baby irelands rattle and if found please insert in a choice place sideways !
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It's quite obvious that if he did what he's done the last few months it would benefit nobody- he doesn't want to be here and houllier doesn't want him so he will go- but I think he will squeeze us for every penny he can just as he did with city.
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I'd like to know what Houllier or any other manager could do that would be different as far as Ireland is concerned.
He's shown from his past behaviour he isn't the easiest player to motivate perhaps Hughes has something, most others lack, or was he just lucky.
I'm sure the Board will find a satisfactory means to remove the waster, especially with Houllier aiding their efforts.
Good luck to them, when you see talent costing a fortune in fees and wages doing nothing and just turning up season after season, its nice to see a freshh broom sweeping the crap away finally.
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Yes, Ireland is a good player, but look at his career as a whole. 1 really good season, the rest? average or poor.
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It's easy to talk big, but I expect we will have to give him what he wants and rely on karma to do the rest.
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I wonder how different things would have been if that effort had gone inside the post in the first few minutes against Chelsea.
All players are different and he seems more of an "arm around the shoulder type" - not Houllier's style so there can only be one outcome.
Somone will get him playing again - probably Hughes at Fulham.
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All players are different and he seems more of an "arm around the shoulder type" - not Houllier's style so there can only be one outcome.
Somone will get him playing again - probably Hughes at Fulham.
This particular prick needs arms round his neck rather than his shoulder.
I can't see anyone touching him unless we give him away.
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Yet another example of there being far too much player power in the game. Any other job or industry and he would be sacked...try claiming unfair dismissal for "sitting on my ass doing nothing picking up m weekly extortionate wage". Ridiculous how players are getting away with this sort of thing.
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I think that the ego's of managers all over Britain will be saying I could be the manager that makes him the player he could be. They will look at the fact that he will be reasonably priced for a player of such ability and think if I can unlock it, i've got myself a great player on the cheap.
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I think that the ego's of managers all over Britain will be saying I could be the manager that makes him the player he could be. They will look at the fact that he will be reasonably priced for a player of such ability and think if I can unlock it, i've got myself a great player on the cheap.
Hopefully.
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I cannot imagine for one second this is true. Why would any player that wants to leave act in a way that would alienate any potential suitor? No club would want to take him on. He's still a very good player if he finds the right circumstance so he's not going to screw up the chance to get that move.
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If it was up to me I'd make him play for the reserves every week but that's an easy stance to take when it isn't my money.
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I think we put this one down to experience, flog him draw a line and move on.
(Oh and kick shit out of him when he comes up against us)
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they are saying he would just do the bare minimum to get his wages...
Well that will be an improvement then.
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It's Nursey in the Mirror for fucks sake.
Stephen Ireland will be at Fulham or Sunderland by January 31st.
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I'm waiting for a similar situation at Liverpool, Woy has had a pop at Cole
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It makes my blood boil - as my Dear Old Mum used to say. Doesn't work for himself or the team, earns in a week what most earn in a year and then complains that it was a shock coming here after Man City. Bless.
Doesn't do a lot to endear himself to us or management does he.
Bad deal all round that one, whoever is to blame.
Now, ok Mirror, he is being reported as threatening to work to rule. Well if not true why does he not refute it?
I await just that. Know what, I don't think it will happen from him, maybe the Club. PR dept.
What students, nurses and the like must feel I don't know. Get shot of this parasite Villa. Now.
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so dissapointed about ireland, thought he was the thing we needed. what a ******. but we all know he is under the thumb cause an ugly bastard couldnt pull a bird like that normally. she wears the trousers, she has said she doent like birmingham and wants to leave. every week he plays crap cause he is scared of what he is about to do wrong at home and get a bollocking for....BUT i would cut off my own knob if i had a bird like that... so fair play to him :-)
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Earns in a week what most earn in a year?!!! Make it several years and you'd be closer I should imagine.
It's Ireland's fault we've had all this snow. And my mate's tv has just broken down. He's getting the blame for that too. The useless tosser.
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Just another immature footballer with no humility or idea of how lucky he is.
Vermin
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so dissapointed about ireland, thought he was the thing we needed. what a c***. but we all know he is under the thumb cause an ugly bastard couldnt pull a bird like that normally. she wears the trousers, she has said she doent like birmingham and wants to leave. every week he plays crap cause he is scared of what he is about to do wrong at home and get a bollocking for....BUT i would cut off my own knob if i had a bird like that... so fair play to him :-)
You might want to think about that last sentance.
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so dissapointed about ireland, thought he was the thing we needed. what a c***. but we all know he is under the thumb cause an ugly bastard couldnt pull a bird like that normally. she wears the trousers, she has said she doent like birmingham and wants to leave. every week he plays crap cause he is scared of what he is about to do wrong at home and get a bollocking for....BUT i would cut off my own knob if i had a bird like that... so fair play to him :-)
He doesn't live in Birmingham.
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Earns in a week what most earn in a year?!!! Make it several years and you'd be closer I should imagine.
It's Ireland's fault we've had all this snow. And my mate's tv has just broken down. He's getting the blame for that too. The useless tosser.
It's worse/better - my mate says that Ireland will destroy the European Union.
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It's Nursey in the Mirror for fucks sake.
Stephen Ireland will be at Fulham or Sunderland by January 31st.
Wouldn't surprise me if Ireland and his former manager have put their heads together already on this one.
He knows he's going. He knows he is no longer wanted, so make as much trouble as you can before you go, so the selling club will accept peanuts just to get you out the way.
Its got Fulham all over this transfer.
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Bloody hell - it is sick.
All of us at twelve years old would have given our right gooly for the opportunity. At eighteen fought through hell and back for a first team place. At twenty five been thankful that we had a chance to fight for honours. In professionall football. In the World of our dreams A premiership club
And rich. Very rich. Girlfreind to drool over. Cars too many to remember. Houses wherever I want.
But no, we get: "I am not happy". To paraphrase.
And we are meant to chant his name. Support him. And then pay for his wealth?
There aren't swear words appropriate to delete.
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I really don't know what to make of this whole situation. On one hand, if Houllier is forcing him out you could say that's pretty unfair on Ireland if he does want to stay and prove himself here, but then you can't really blame Ged for wanting to build his own squad and not have players he doesn't really want earning 60k+ a week. I would say though that the pasting Ireland is getting from some sections seems a little over the top as I don't know how anyone can have a strong opinion on the situation when only a handful of people know what has really happened.
To me Ireland looks like he's suffering from Sidwell syndrome in that he's had so much time without playing that he's forgotten he was once a good player and only playing regularly will help this. It's a shame as I think there is a player in there who could really add a lot to the side.
The only conclusion I can come to from this mess at the moment is that it's another pile of crap left over from MON when he decided to jump ship a week before the season started. As we've now been left with a new signing who the new manager doesn't really see as part of his team for the future.
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what if one of our strong tacklers, for a christmas bonus, hurt him in training so that his 'career' came to an end...would we have grounds for claiming on insurance?
Is that the sort of karma we are thinking of....would generally not like that sort of thing to happen to a player....but in this circumstance....I dont know whether I would feel the same...
I feel sick with myself.....I know
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Jockey R
A very mature response but imagine the boardroom. The bloody accountants.
This man does simply not want to be here. He clearly does not want to play for Aston Villa.
We are not good enough for him.
I don't know what you do in life but he would be out of my company in a second. Cancerous.
The past is gone.
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Every bit of this deal has been shit and, frankly, we've been played like a fiddle, first by Citeh and now by Ireland and/or his agent.
Whether there is any truth in this story is neither here nor there, the sooner we get rid the better.
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This all comes back once again to a lack of football knowledge on the Villa board,the only thing i criticise Lerner for is being naeive enough to believe that he could come in as a football virgin and not need advice from someone with a long time knowledge of the premiership. If for example Graham Taylor had been appointed to the board in an advisory capacity i am certain many of the problems we are encountering would have been avoided.
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Let's hypnotise him. Tell him our kit is the new City away strip. Get Houllier to wear a Mark Hughes mask. Easy peasy. Just takes a little thought.
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The signs were there long before he arrived that he was indeed a wanker and he has just reinforced those views. The quicker he goes the better.
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He will come back to haunt us. Of that I am sure.
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This all comes back once again to a lack of football knowledge on the Villa board,the only thing i criticise Lerner for is being naeive enough to believe that he could come in as a football virgin and not need advice from someone with a long time knowledge of the premiership. If for example Graham Taylor had been appointed to the board in an advisory capacity i am certain many of the problems we are encountering would have been avoided.
This. This. A thousand time, this!
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I really don't know what to make of this whole situation. On one hand, if Houllier is forcing him out you could say that's pretty unfair on Ireland if he does want to stay and prove himself here, but then you can't really blame Ged for wanting to build his own squad and not have players he doesn't really want earning 60k+ a week. I would say though that the pasting Ireland is getting from some sections seems a little over the top as I don't know how anyone can have a strong opinion on the situation when only a handful of people know what has really happened.
To me Ireland looks like he's suffering from Sidwell syndrome in that he's had so much time without playing that he's forgotten he was once a good player and only playing regularly will help this. It's a shame as I think there is a player in there who could really add a lot to the side.
The only conclusion I can come to from this mess at the moment is that it's another pile of crap left over from MON when he decided to jump ship a week before the season started. As we've now been left with a new signing who the new manager doesn't really see as part of his team for the future.
I read this and I understand it completely.
But then I look at what your average Stephen-Ireland-IQ lad of his age would be doing...stuck in some shithole in Afghanistan getting absolutely bollocked by his commanding officer for being a thick ****** and to get out there, be a fucking man, stop complaining like a pussy and do the job your fucking well paid to do.
Kind of puts it all into perspective doesn't it?
Life gave Stepen Ireland a very special gift. And the fucker doesn't want to use it. He just wants to milk it for all it's worth.
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Boards biggest mistake so far...
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He did not want to leave citeh, he was forced out, he has gone 18 months without playing regular first team football, he joins a club as a make weight and also a club in some state of flux. he goes from being the best player at citeh 2 years ago to joining a team that is strugling with a massive injury problem and a new management team. there is no playing role for him in the system we use although he is probably technicaly a better player than A Young in the free role. As a bloke that shuns publicity he finds himself in the media spot light partly due to his new mangers comments to the media. It is not his fault that some one agreed to pay him £65k per week. It is a total mess
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He did not want to leave citeh, he was forced out, he has gone 18 months without playing regular first team football, he joins a club as a make weight and also a club in some state of flux. he goes from being the best player at citeh 2 years ago to joining a team that is strugling with a massive injury problem and a new management team. there is no playing role for him in the system we use although he is probably technicaly a better player than A Young in the free role. As a bloke that shuns publicity he finds himself in the media spot light partly due to his new mangers comments to the media. It is not his fault that some one agreed to pay him £65k per week. It is a total mess
For a bloke that shuns publicity he seems to have a God-given knack of attracting it and while it's not his fault somebody pays him 65k a week, if I was getting that sort of money the very least I would do would be to show some gratitude by performing to the best of my ability.
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He will come back to haunt us. Of that I am sure.
Only if we draw the lower league club he'll inevitably end at in a cup competition. He's spent at the highest level.
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Life gave Stepen Ireland a very special gift. And the fucker doesn't want to use it. He just wants to milk it for all it's worth.
Special gift? An ability to imagine dead people? :)
I have a certain dislike for him since his days at City. I have never liked the idea of him being the makeweight in the Milner deal. From day one, you know he doesn't want to leave City. And to play for us.
Wanker = Stephen Ireland.
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...he has gone 18 months without playing regular first team football...
This is starting to become an internet myth. Not defending Ireland in the slightest (in fact it strips an excuse away to a certain extent), but last season Ireland played 19 times for City up to 19th December 2009 (the point Hughes was sacked) and continued to be a regular up to February under Mancini.
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Shame he is such a fuckwit as the deal initially could have gone either way. He didn't want to leave MC so could have gone all out to prove it was a mistake selling him. Alternatively, he could act like a dickhead and continue to prove a point that he didn't want to go anywhere. Unfortunately he went for the second option but he seems too stupid to reallise that MC don't care what he now does and we're paying the price for having an ungrateful, uninterested clown at the club.
I usually see the best in people before writing them off, however in this instance, I see nothing but disrespect for himself, Aston Villa and us fans and therefore can't sympathise with him.
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I do wonder how things would be with Ireland if Dunne was happy with Houllier.
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...he has gone 18 months without playing regular first team football...
This is starting to become an internet myth. Not defending Ireland in the slightest (in fact it strips an excuse away to a certain extent), but last season Ireland played 19 times for City up to 19th December 2009 (the point Hughes was sacked) and continued to be a regular up to February under Mancini.
Indeed Nick. Ireland pretty well played all the time when he was fit last season.
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Why he didn't want to Leave City is beyond me. Hadn't played in 2 years? Or was he happy to sit and collect his money there.
My toilet blocked last night. It's Ireland's fault. The useless tosser.
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I do wonder how things would be with Ireland if Dunne was happy with Houllier.
Maybe someone should remind him that Richard Dunne doesn't pay his wages, Aston Villa do.
I was all for Ireland coming in as part of the Milner deal, but it's been an absolute disaster. Can't wait to see us get him off the wage bill, though it'll probably mean us making a big loss on him. Yet another nail in the coffin for my interest in football, which is lukewarm these days at best.
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EDIT: Sorry, we've had to take this one down.
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Bradford's socks?
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Comparing Ireland to Curcic is unfair. I remember Sasa having at least one great game for us, I think it might have been against Derby.
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Why he didn't want to Leave City is beyond me. Hadn't played in 2 years? Or was he happy to sit and collect his money there.
My toilet blocked last night. It's Ireland's fault. The useless tosser.
Did you not read the posts just above? He was playing regularly til at City til February of this year.