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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: villa1 on December 20, 2010, 09:36:10 PM
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He wants a loan move till March. Personally i'd have him here. His influence in the dressing room, increased attendances, and of course he could still offer us something on the pitch I feel.
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Beckham has ruled out playing for any Premier League clubs apart from Manchester United.
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Haha. You are not serious are you? Never in a million years would David Beckham even consider a move to Villa. I can't believe you would even debate whether he'd be good enough as the answer to that is obvious when you have got Hogg and Sidwell as alternatives. He would walk into the Villa side but would never, ever consider us.
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He'd fill the ground with tourists, but would offer nothing on the pitch.
See Robert Pires for details.
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Pires hadn't been playing before moving to us. Beckham was at AC Milan up to last season, and has just finished a season in The States. Yes, I'd get him in. I don't think he'd turn us down now either as his options would be getting more limited now.
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Nico, If you read his last statement, he's ruled out any chance of Utd wanting him back.
"I've always wanted to play in the Premier League again and have always said it would be for Utd only, but i'm not holding my breath on that one, so we'll have to wait and see."
I think he'd come and he'd offer us a hell of a lot more than Pires. He can run, for a start.
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Nico, If you read his last statement, he's ruled out any chance of Utd wanting him back.
"I've always wanted to play in the Premier League again and have always said it would be for Utd only, but i'm not holding my breath on that one, so we'll have to wait and see."
I think he'd come and he'd offer us a hell of a lot more than Pires. He can run, for a start.
Pires hadn't been playing before moving to us. Beckham was at AC Milan up to last season, and has just finished a season in The States. Yes, I'd get him in. I don't think he'd turn us down now either as his options would be getting more limited now.
There's as much chance of us getting Ronaldo. We are way to unattractive a club for brand Beckham. Sad but true. Can you imagine Posh shopping in the Bullring? Thought not.
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They can base themselves elsewhere, like few of our players do.
Can see what you're saying about brand Beckham though.
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No, no, no and no again! offers nothing we can't get elsewhere, no pace, can't tackle, can't go past a player and can't head a ball, plays an occasional long ball or puts in an occasional cross and for that we'd have to put up with the Beckham bloody circus and the performing Victoria. Has to be one of the most over rated players of modern times!
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Nico, If you read his last statement, he's ruled out any chance of Utd wanting him back.
"I've always wanted to play in the Premier League again and have always said it would be for Utd only, but i'm not holding my breath on that one, so we'll have to wait and see."
I think he'd come and he'd offer us a hell of a lot more than Pires. He can run, for a start.
Pires hadn't been playing before moving to us. Beckham was at AC Milan up to last season, and has just finished a season in The States. Yes, I'd get him in. I don't think he'd turn us down now either as his options would be getting more limited now.
There's as much chance of us getting Ronaldo. We are way to unattractive a club for brand Beckham. Sad but true. Can you imagine Posh shopping in the Bullring? Thought not.
What nonsense. Why do they have to live in Birmingham? And how much better do you think the Trafford Centre would have been for her when they were playing up there?
They live in Hertfordshire, which is hardly a terrible distance from Bodymoor Heath.
I don't think he'd come because of the "not Man United" thing, but it pisses me off when we use this Brummie inferiority complex nonsense to create other excuses.
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I can't see what's wrong wih the Brand Beckham thing either. The kind of publicity, and generated revenue, is exactly what we need right now. Problem being is the size of his wage.
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He wants a loan move till March. Personally i'd have him here. His influence in the dressing room, increased attendances, and of course he could still offer us something on the pitch I feel.
That's just what I need for the second half of this season, being inundated with c*&^s who've come along to see Becks™
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Ah yes, his wage. Something I hadn't really considered. I'd like to think he'd be willing to take a pay cut, but can't see that happening.
The increased revenue and publicity would definitely help though.
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He wants a loan move till March. Personally i'd have him here. His influence in the dressing room, increased attendances, and of course he could still offer us something on the pitch I feel.
That's just what I need for the second half of this season, being inundated with c*&^s who've come along to see Becks™
The increased attendances and revenue wouldn't help us in the long run then?
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Not a good time to be associated with a circus act.
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Stephen Ireland?
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He wants a loan move till March. Personally i'd have him here. His influence in the dressing room, increased attendances, and of course he could still offer us something on the pitch I feel.
That's just what I need for the second half of this season, being inundated with c*&^s who've come along to see Becks™
The increased attendances and revenue wouldn't help us in the long run then?
No. In the long run, we'll increase attendances and revenues by winning games and avoiding gimmicks.
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Unless there's endorsement money involved, I can't imagine Victoria Beckham being remotely interested in the Trafford Centre, Bull Ring et al. That's said in observation rather than critical mode. Haven't given any thought to a loan deal, but it's either wonderful PR work, or me mellowing in my old age, but I'm actually thinking they're a relatively nice couple. They're rich, they've had their ups and downs, but I don't find them despicable.
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Kind of a million miles away from that right now, though.
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Why is this thread open?
Beckham has said categorically he won't play for a premier league team. He said he would only play for Man U, but has no chance of that happening.
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I can't see what's wrong wih the Brand Beckham thing either. The kind of publicity, and generated revenue, is exactly what we need right now. Problem being is the size of his wage.
In fact right now, his stock couldn't be any higher.
As for the player, he works as hard, if not harder than any player on the pitch. He has a lot of intelligence now that his legs aren't what they were, and he's still amongst the best passers and crossers of a football in the world. I don't think he'd come to us because we can't offer him top European football at the moment. It wouldn't surprise me though if it wasn't Man U, that he ended up at Spurs or Chelsea.
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Fookin Brooklin Beckham would get in our team at the minute
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No.
Next.
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Why is this thread open?
Beckham has said categorically he won't play for a premier league team. He said he would only play for Man U, but has no chance of that happening.
Wrong. Read my post on the previous page. That's why this thread is open.
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Change the thread title then
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heh. Uncle Bob on one wing and Uncle Dave on the other. bloody hell, its 2001 again
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Change the thread title then
Read the posts then.
Don't see why it needs changing.
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Ignore me, I'm just moaning
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Fair enough. You just sounded like my missus for a minute or two back then!
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No No No not unless we want to turn our great club into a f in pantomime act with "guest" stars like Pires and Beckham appearing now and than.
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There's as much chance of us getting Ronaldo. We are way to unattractive a club for brand Beckham. Sad but true. Can you imagine Posh shopping in the Bullring? Thought not.
May be not but Posh is already associated with a great midlands brand Landrover and getting a fair wedge of money to boot!
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People saying no need their heads read. The money, the publicity are great, the wow factor that it would give us great, but he is still better than all our midfield at 35.
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Why not. Marc Albrighton could teach him to cross and we'd have a proper player on our hands.
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yeah brand beckham comes to help our itzy bitzy club. Sounds like all those other failed old ex-big players arriving at struggling clubs
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Not a good time to be associated with a circus act.
This is the answer to the question. Well said adrenachrome.
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Gotta be better than Stuart Baggs "the brand" .........
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People saying no need their heads read. The money, the publicity are great, the wow factor that it would give us great, but he is still better than all our midfield at 35.
Sorry ozzjim but no. No thanks.
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Nico, If you read his last statement, he's ruled out any chance of Utd wanting him back.
"I've always wanted to play in the Premier League again and have always said it would be for Utd only, but i'm not holding my breath on that one, so we'll have to wait and see."
I think he'd come and he'd offer us a hell of a lot more than Pires. He can run, for a start.
Pires hadn't been playing before moving to us. Beckham was at AC Milan up to last season, and has just finished a season in The States. Yes, I'd get him in. I don't think he'd turn us down now either as his options would be getting more limited now.
There's as much chance of us getting Ronaldo. We are way to unattractive a club for brand Beckham. Sad but true. Can you imagine Posh shopping in the Bullring? Thought not.
What nonsense. Why do they have to live in Birmingham? And how much better do you think the Trafford Centre would have been for her when they were playing up there?
They live in Hertfordshire, which is hardly a terrible distance from Bodymoor Heath.
I don't think he'd come because of the "not Man United" thing, but it pisses me off when we use this Brummie inferiority complex nonsense to create other excuses.
It's not an "inferiority complex" its a fact. Villa could not and have never attracted the top, top stars to Brum and are absolutely not going to be able to attract the most famous football on the planet to B6.
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The reasons we're giving for wanting Beckham seem awfully similiar to the reasons for wanting Pires, which in my opinion hasn't worked out for the better as of yet.
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i can't see it happening but it would certainly increase our global exposure... I don't think it would improve us on football front. On a related note, I bought him to the Villa on Football Manager for his twilight years, I thought it would bring in some shirt sales but he didn't even bring in much so he went on a free transfer.
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he would never get in the team with sidwell,osbourne and salifou always in front of him...
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No, no, no and no again! offers nothing we can't get elsewhere, no pace, can't tackle, can't go past a player and can't head a ball, plays an occasional long ball or puts in an occasional cross and for that we'd have to put up with the Beckham bloody circus and the performing Victoria. Has to be one of the most over rated players of modern times!
Spot on
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Landon Donovan yes, Beckham no.
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People saying no need their heads read. The money, the publicity are great, the wow factor that it would give us great, but he is still better than all our midfield at 35.
If you want to see a pantomime why not just go to the theatre like everyone else?
Beckham, in my view has never been a great player. At Man U they got rid of him as the circus surrounding him became too much and they had 3 players better than him in midfield. You can't seriously think he was ever better than Scholes, Giggs Keane? At Real in 4 years he won nothing (well la liga in his last year after he'd been subbed in the last game).
The question you need to ask if how much wedge? If free then fine he'll sell some shirts but personally I'd rather see money spent on a young hungry long term solution.
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No, no, no and no again! offers nothing we can't get elsewhere, no pace, can't tackle, can't go past a player and can't head a ball, plays an occasional long ball or puts in an occasional cross and for that we'd have to put up with the Beckham bloody circus and the performing Victoria. Has to be one of the most over rated players of modern times!
Spot on mate
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No, I'd rather we look to sign long term quality players.
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Thanks but no thanks.
It would be a retrograde step.
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I wouldn't have him at Villa like others have said it would be too much of a circus act and him being in the team would keep one of the youngsters out who would not get much game time so i would say no.
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Don't understand all this "backward step" stuff. It's only til March, it's only on loan so we'd hardly be making it our long term policy would we? We've already more or less written this season off as one of transition, but it's in dangerof becoming a relegation battle. Maybe we could do with a little more help in the short term?
As for cost, again it's only til March, so it's not going to break the bank. And I doubt Posh is going to up sticks and move to Erdington for 3 months.
On the plus side, it would raise our profile, bring in extra revenue, and would add something on the pitch, even at 35. He may be overrated but he is still one of the best passers and crossers of the ball England has produced for a long time. It would also be good for our young midfielders to train and play alongside someone who has been there and done it all.
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No, no, no and no again! offers nothing we can't get elsewhere, no pace, can't tackle, can't go past a player and can't head a ball, plays an occasional long ball or puts in an occasional cross and for that we'd have to put up with the Beckham bloody circus and the performing Victoria. Has to be one of the most over rated players of modern times!
Spot on mate
Seconded.
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I'd love it and I think it would do our kids the world of good to train with him everyday. I also think it would give the club a boost for a while.
Can't see any negative aspect to it at all. The bloke is a brilliant professional and all round good guy.
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Absolutely not.
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Even if he begged us and we didn't pay him a penny it would still be a NO!
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Would I like him here? No
However, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that he was friends with Randy?
I think he would definately have turned up at West Ham, but not so sure now with them having Gold & Sullivan there.
So choice wise, I think he will end up with his old mucker Sven.
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Yes all the way for 6 months, he's still a class act and could do a job maybe not a full game but parts
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With my high waisted trousers on 'It's a no from me'.
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In the paper this morning he's quoted again as saying he would only play for ManU, thankfully.
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Can see him staying in LA to be fair with the family
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Nico, If you read his last statement, he's ruled out any chance of Utd wanting him back.
"I've always wanted to play in the Premier League again and have always said it would be for Utd only, but i'm not holding my breath on that one, so we'll have to wait and see."
I think he'd come and he'd offer us a hell of a lot more than Pires. He can run, for a start.
Pires hadn't been playing before moving to us. Beckham was at AC Milan up to last season, and has just finished a season in The States. Yes, I'd get him in. I don't think he'd turn us down now either as his options would be getting more limited now.
There's as much chance of us getting Ronaldo. We are way to unattractive a club for brand Beckham. Sad but true. Can you imagine Posh shopping in the Bullring? Thought not.
What nonsense. Why do they have to live in Birmingham? And how much better do you think the Trafford Centre would have been for her when they were playing up there?
They live in Hertfordshire, which is hardly a terrible distance from Bodymoor Heath.
I don't think he'd come because of the "not Man United" thing, but it pisses me off when we use this Brummie inferiority complex nonsense to create other excuses.
It's not an "inferiority complex" its a fact. Villa could not and have never attracted the top, top stars to Brum and are absolutely not going to be able to attract the most famous football on the planet to B6.
This strikes me as classic Brummie Inferiority Complex. The reason why we have never attracted top, top stars to Brum is because we previously had a Chairman who never had the money/ambition to do such things. If you are trying to say that the city of Manchester has more going for it than the UK's Second City then I would respectfully have to disagree.
With money and ambition any club can sign any player - perhaps the most celebrated example being Maradona going to Napoli. On the issue of Villa attempting to sign Beckham...I would be very disappointed if we went down such a route. This would not move our Club forward in the slightest.
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This is just like the good old days. Whenever season ticket sales were a bit light or he wanted to shift a few half season ones at xmas, Doug would get the rumour mill working. Gazzas name popping up was always a good one.
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This is just like the good old days. Whenever season ticket sales were a bit light or he wanted to shift a few half season ones at xmas, Doug would get the rumour mill working. Gazzas name popping up was always a good one.
I am Randy Lerner.
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There are two things about Beckham - he's given his all in every game he's ever played and there's no footballer in the world, possibly in history, with such a keen eye for his public image. There's no way he'd play anywhere, least of all the Premeir League, if he didn't think he was up to it anymore. He would never ruin his reputation for the sake of three months wages.
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There are two things about Beckham - he's given his all in every game he's ever played and there's no footballer in the world, possibly in history, with such a keen eye for his public image. There's no way he'd play anywhere, least of all the Premeir League, if he didn't think he was up to it anymore. He would never ruin his reputation for the sake of three months wages.
uhm him jumping out of the tackle in Japan against Brazil comes to mind, they scored from that incident.
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There are two things about Beckham - he's given his all in every game he's ever played and there's no footballer in the world, possibly in history, with such a keen eye for his public image. There's no way he'd play anywhere, least of all the Premeir League, if he didn't think he was up to it anymore. He would never ruin his reputation for the sake of three months wages.
uhm him jumping out of the tackle in Japan against Brazil comes to mind, they scored from that incident.
Beckham has always kept in the forefront of his mind that it was his performance on the pitch that was paramount, everything esle that happened around him flowed from that. Its a lesson that the Stephen Irelands of this world should take on board.
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There are two things about Beckham - he's given his all in every game he's ever played and there's no footballer in the world, possibly in history, with such a keen eye for his public image. There's no way he'd play anywhere, least of all the Premeir League, if he didn't think he was up to it anymore. He would never ruin his reputation for the sake of three months wages.
uhm him jumping out of the tackle in Japan against Brazil comes to mind, they scored from that incident.
Do people still go on about that?
He jumped out of the way in an attempt to win us a throw-in. It went wrong. Absolutely nothing to do with him giving his all.
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JPA has just gone to LA Galaxy
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There are two things about Beckham - he's given his all in every game he's ever played and there's no footballer in the world, possibly in history, with such a keen eye for his public image. There's no way he'd play anywhere, least of all the Premeir League, if he didn't think he was up to it anymore. He would never ruin his reputation for the sake of three months wages.
Often this type of dedicated player is the last to realise when the game is up.... He may think he is still up to it and perhaps won't face up to the fact that he isn't as effective as he once was. He'll also be aware that his image won't be particularly tarnished by playing out his career on the bench or for a less successful club... He does seem to be an inspirational figure for many people though... I don't quite get that myself but if thats something he would bring to Villa along with a few decent free kicks then it might be worth a punt. May aswell complete the set of society's evils potentially being sat in the Trinity on the odd Saturday .... tory prime minister, future king of england, governor of the bank of england and posh spice...
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JPA has just gone to LA Galaxy
I went to one of their games while i was over there in September, they play some decent football. He'll score a load for them.
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Becks is history. Need to look to the future. Many a man has fallen down looking back over his shoulder.
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Becks is history. Need to look to the future. Many a man has fallen down looking back over his shoulder.
Quasimodo for one.
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Becks is history. Need to look to the future. Many a man has fallen down looking back over his shoulder.
Quasimodo for one.
So your hunch is we wont be signing Beckham ?
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Becks is history. Need to look to the future. Many a man has fallen down looking back over his shoulder.
Quasimodo for one.
So your hunch is we wont be signing Beckham ?
Applause. Applause.Applause! ;D
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Becks is history. Need to look to the future. Many a man has fallen down looking back over his shoulder.
Quasimodo for one.
So your hunch is we wont be signing Beckham ?
Notre Dame chance.
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Becks is history. Need to look to the future. Many a man has fallen down looking back over his shoulder.
Quasimodo for one.
So your hunch is we wont be signing Beckham ?
Notre Dame chance.
The bells are ringing................for the claret and blue...
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Can't we sign Landon Donovan instead? He's a class player.
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Can't we sign Landon Donovan instead? He's a class player.
I read yesterday that he was having a rest this winter and not coming to Europe,and if he did it would be with Everton.
I agree that he'd be a good signing.
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Landon Donovan is not going anywhere this winter. He wants some time off. Don't we all, Landon, don't we all....
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Should we get Beckham? Yes
Will Beckham even give us a second glance ? No
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Landon Donovan is not going anywhere this winter. He wants some time off. Don't we all, Landon, don't we all....
Can't say i blame him. Where would you rather spend winter? L.A or Liverpool?
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The myth just builds and builds with Beckham. Aside from the, frankly bizarre, sight of him receiving a lifetime acheivement award at the age of 35, Shaun Cuntis of The Sun believes he should've been made FA Chairman.
Now before you all laugh your bollocks off or even think it is below Sir Dave, think for a minute. As Cuntis said, he would have far more gravitas than almost anybody else, FIFA like him and when he asks for a meeting with the big wigs to promote the FA cause, he'll have no trouble getting an audience.
My only question would be:
What the fuck would he say?
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The myth just builds and builds with Beckham. Aside from the, frankly bizarre, sight of him receiving a lifetime acheivement award at the age of 35, Shaun Cuntis of The Sun believes he should've been made FA Chairman.
Now before you all laugh your bollocks off or even think it is below Sir Dave, think for a minute. As Cuntis said, he would have far more gravitas than almost anybody else, FIFA like him and when he asks for a meeting with the big wigs to promote the FA cause, he'll have no trouble getting an audience.
My only question would be:
What the fuck would he say?
He'd say "you know" an awful lot....
I like the guy though...would have him here in a shot...
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The only problem with a deal like this is that it benefits Beckham to keep himself fit rather than us.
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The myth just builds and builds with Beckham. Aside from the, frankly bizarre, sight of him receiving a lifetime acheivement award at the age of 35, Shaun Cuntis of The Sun believes he should've been made FA Chairman.
Now before you all laugh your bollocks off or even think it is below Sir Dave, think for a minute. As Cuntis said, he would have far more gravitas than almost anybody else, FIFA like him and when he asks for a meeting with the big wigs to promote the FA cause, he'll have no trouble getting an audience.
My only question would be:
What the fuck would he say?
The longer things go on, the more I think his thickness is a carefully-cultivated image. He ain't that daft. And that FA chairmanship isn't a bad idea.
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The myth just builds and builds with Beckham. Aside from the, frankly bizarre, sight of him receiving a lifetime acheivement award at the age of 35, Shaun Cuntis of The Sun believes he should've been made FA Chairman.
Now before you all laugh your bollocks off or even think it is below Sir Dave, think for a minute. As Cuntis said, he would have far more gravitas than almost anybody else, FIFA like him and when he asks for a meeting with the big wigs to promote the FA cause, he'll have no trouble getting an audience.
My only question would be:
What the fuck would he say?
The longer things go on, the more I think his thickness is a carefully-cultivated image. He ain't that daft. And that FA chairmanship isn't a bad idea.
It would only be the same as any Government Minister really. As long as he had decent advisers around him he can do the charm offensive and presentation bit easily.
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Beckham would be a great signing for us, but will never, ever join us - we're not 'cool' enough for Brand Beckham.
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I think he'd make a similar impact to Pires...
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Gentleman. He has stated that he will not entertain playing in the Prem for anybody but Man U.
Don't panic. We won't have Posh selling the other half of her seat.
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Beckham would be a great signing for us, but will never, ever join us - we're not 'cool' enough for Brand Beckham.
This is exactly what I have been saying since this 'speculation' started. He would never, ever in a million years come to us and even discussing it on this thread is pointless to that end. Why people think that David Beckham would come to us is beyond me. Just for the record though, people that say they don't want him are as mad as those that think he would come. Hogg, Salifou, Osbourne or Beckham. Hmmm.
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Gentleman. He has stated that he will not entertain playing in the Prem for anybody but Man U.
Don't panic. We won't have Posh selling the other half of her seat.
He's also more recently (Tuesday if I remember rightly) said he'd love to return to the Prem, but he isn't holding his breath on Utd wanting him back so he'll wait and see. I believe that was pointed out on the first page?
The way it came across was as though he would consider other clubs.
And no, that's not saying we'd definitely have a chance.
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The myth just builds and builds with Beckham. Aside from the, frankly bizarre, sight of him receiving a lifetime acheivement award at the age of 35, Shaun Cuntis of The Sun believes he should've been made FA Chairman.
Now before you all laugh your bollocks off or even think it is below Sir Dave, think for a minute. As Cuntis said, he would have far more gravitas than almost anybody else, FIFA like him and when he asks for a meeting with the big wigs to promote the FA cause, he'll have no trouble getting an audience.
My only question would be:
What the fuck would he say?
The longer things go on, the more I think his thickness is a carefully-cultivated image. He ain't that daft. And that FA chairmanship isn't a bad idea.
If Beckham is that good an actor then an Oscar will quickly follow the half lifetime achievement award!