Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Villa'Zawg on December 11, 2010, 12:18:12 PM
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Cracking start to the programme - A brief history of Villa.
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Quite interesting at the moment, Faulkner has confirmed money is there to spend.
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In all fairness there has always been money to spend.....
Its been a question of
a) How much ? and
b) Whether the Chairman had the confidence in the Manager to allow him to spend it
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Quite interesting at the moment, Faulkner has confirmed money is there to spend.
"if the right opportunity presents". I'd be interested to know what parameters constitute "the right opportunity".
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Dublin on the bench ?
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Quite interesting at the moment, Faulkner has confirmed money is there to spend.
"if the right opportunity presents". I'd be interested to know what parameters constitute "the right opportunity".
A good player that Houllier wants that is available.
I think there was caution in what he was saying as it's difficult to get what you want in January.
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with the current injury crisis i can't imagine money won't be made available and a decent amount. Don't want to be dragged into the post christmas relegation battle, and what's 10m compared to losing 20+m if we went down?
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Some people wouldn't have been satisfied if Faulkner had shown them a warchest full of cash.
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Some people wouldn't have been satisfied if Faulkner had shown them a warchest full of cash.
Well he'd have to confirm it wasn't filled full of blank paper underneath the first few layers of cash obviously
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Some people wouldn't have been satisfied if Faulkner had shown them a warchest full of cash.
couldn't agree more
even dressed as Santa Clause wouldn't work for some :)
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I know its a cliche,but not many players get sold at that time if theyre doing well at their club,we done well to get Ash. And not many foreign players hit to ground running,especially if they join a team in the wrong half of the table with a lack of confidence. But this is why GH is on a good wage to find a couple of players who can add to the team in January.
But i remember when Sir Brian took over,and adding 2 or 3 faces which gave the team a boost(i know they nearly messed it up in the end!)we need something similar now.
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I've never trusted that Faulkner since he confessed to offing Archie Mitchell and jumped off a roof.
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Good show and nice to be in the spotlight on the beeb- let's take it to the baggies today and a warm welcome back to our esteemed colleague the one and only gregnash!
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Dublin on the bench ?
I didn't see FF. Was there something about Dion?
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Dublin on the bench ?
I didn't see FF. Was there something about Dion?
He was one of the pundits on it along with Keown, Lawro and Cyrille Regis.
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Cheers Sandie.
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I really enjoyed this half hour of coverage.
I loved the overview of our history, the shots of the Wesleyan Chapel, Aston Park, and Villa Park looking amazing from every angle. It was a great reminder of the pride I feel for our club.
I loved that the presenter has the air of a kid at Christmas dong the programme and had a giggle at his "look what happens when you walk out through the tunnel" - he radiated a fan's level of enthusiasm which really made me smile.
I also loved this derby being given the recognition of dedicating the show to it.
Then I've come to this thread and it's all about how much money we've got in January - I think this is why modern football is rubbish
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is this on iplayer ?
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is this on iplayer ?
Yes
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Just watched this and thought it was quality. They paid a lot of attention to our heritage and VP looked awesome. Enjoyed the Brummie question time.
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Just watched this and thought it was quality. They paid a lot of attention to our heritage and VP looked awesome. Enjoyed the Brummie question time.
Villa Park did look awesome. A beautiful sight.
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Any to view online?
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I really enjoyed this half hour of coverage.
I loved the overview of our history, the shots of the Wesleyan Chapel, Aston Park, and Villa Park looking amazing from every angle. It was a great reminder of the pride I feel for our club.
I loved that the presenter has the air of a kid at Christmas dong the programme and had a giggle at his "look what happens when you walk out through the tunnel" - he radiated a fan's level of enthusiasm which really made me smile.
I also loved this derby being given the recognition of dedicating the show to it.
Then I've come to this thread and it's all about how much money we've got in January - I think this is why modern football is rubbish
Thing is, with the first paragraph we all feel that anyway. yes, its great. But when you're where we are in the table, with the upheaval we've gone through over the past 4 months, I think your final sentence it what is really interesting us most at the moment. If we were sitting a few places higher then we'd even shrug our shoulders if we didn't purchase anyone in january, now i think this place would implode if not.
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Villa Park did look amazing, a real stadium with tradition and heritage. Not these boring new stadiums straight out the box, all looking the same.
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Anyone got a link to it?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/football_focus/9278789.stm
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Not bastard available to view outside the UK. I like these little feature things on the club :(
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Eamonn, try using a proxy server based in the UK.
Here is one site which lists proxy servers:
http://www.proxy4free.com/
Basically, you paste the url into the box which says surf or some such.
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Doesn't work through a proxy, the Beeb are one step ahead in blocking the proxy sites as well.
If anyone can upload it, I would love to see it as well.
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I tend to use Expat Shield when I'm out the country.
Can slow down and drop out on occasion, but seems to be fine outside of peak hours. Completely free, but there are a few annoying ads to contend with.
Disconnect it when you're not using it (or use a different browser altogether) as you'll get ads even on non related pages.
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Can't find it on the BBC iPlayer.
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go to sport and you should find it
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I'll use the above link when I get back from work.
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In all fairness there has always been money to spend.....
Its been a question of
a) How much ? and
b) Whether the Chairman had the confidence in the Manager to allow him to spend it
The General said it was about sorting out the wage bill first. I imagine that might be relaxed slightly to allow GH to add to the squad in January but it is clearly still an issue.
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I found it interesting that 'no money for transfers and losing his top players' was Mon's reason for leaving.
Still a decent effort really but then any effort on the Villa is so rare its bound to be decent. We have needed to sort out our PR for years, right back to the Ellis times and we still have not.
Didn't think Faulkner came accross too well, but then he's a dealer behind the scenes man rather than an up front spokesman I'd guess.
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In all fairness there has always been money to spend.....
Its been a question of
a) How much ? and
b) Whether the Chairman had the confidence in the Manager to allow him to spend it
The General said it was about sorting out the wage bill first. I imagine that might be relaxed slightly to allow GH to add to the squad in January but it is clearly still an issue.
According to the Times, Ireland is on £65,000pw.
Fucking him off will help the figures.
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I really enjoyed this half hour of coverage.
I loved the overview of our history, the shots of the Wesleyan Chapel, Aston Park, and Villa Park looking amazing from every angle. It was a great reminder of the pride I feel for our club.
I loved that the presenter has the air of a kid at Christmas dong the programme and had a giggle at his "look what happens when you walk out through the tunnel" - he radiated a fan's level of enthusiasm which really made me smile.
I also loved this derby being given the recognition of dedicating the show to it.
Then I've come to this thread and it's all about how much money we've got in January - I think this is why modern football is rubbish
Thing is, with the first paragraph we all feel that anyway. yes, its great. But when you're where we are in the table, with the upheaval we've gone through over the past 4 months, I think your final sentence it what is really interesting us most at the moment. If we were sitting a few places higher then we'd even shrug our shoulders if we didn't purchase anyone in january, now i think this place would implode if not.
None of you could find a thread anywhere else on this board to discuss that then?
It wasn't even that it was mentioned, it was that it then proceeded to descend into the same petty argument that inhabits every other thread. However - my swipe wasn't at those people - it was at modern football.
Modern football is rubbish because it all comes down to money in a way it never did in the past. So you can look at our history, and all the reasons we love the club, and wipe it out with an immediate swathe of message board misery about money, because we haven't talked about that anywhere near enough.
If we don't buy anyone in January, this message board might implode, but there'll still be Aston Villa, and most of us too.
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I agree with most of what you say amfy.
I guess the frustration for many is that when you see a programme like that you wonder can we ever scale those heights again. We had a window of opportunity in 2006 and looked like we were definitely on the move in the calendar year of 2008.
For the first time in a while we're well off the pace, have had a number of sides previously on a par with us eclipse us and most recently -to add insult to injury- we've helped the plebs down the road to a semi final, when that looked like our only realistic chance of success this year.
Before I always had a sense of certainty that we will be back. Not that we had a divine right to success, but big clubs with a bit of impetuous tend to have a better chance than clubs with no pedigree or previous track record of success.
Even if we spent a few years struggling at the arse end of the table (as we did mid-late 80's) when we finally got our act together (as per 89/90 and 92/93) it wasn't hailed as a plucky underdog defying the odds. It was seen by most as a big club returning to form.
But with each passing year that kind of status slips. To the neutral we're synonymous with mid table mediocrity - with the odd exception here and there. As much as I cherish our history my fear is that we'll eventually be like a PNE or Huddersfield Town. Nothing wrong with those clubs. But the bigger clubs tend to target what they're going to win next rather than reminiscing about former glories.
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Mid table mediocracy??? Only Man U, Chelsea, Arsenel and Liverpool have got more points than us in nearly 20 years of the premier league,
So by my reckoning we are a top club that belongs towards the top of the table.
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I found this on youtube, it is just the live forum but always good to hear from Dion and Cyrille, Keown can bugger off for all I care. A great bit of Villa footage from about 5 mins 45 onwards!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKrNjKGC_-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKrNjKGC_-w)
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I don't think we had 3 managers in 1 season, Keown loves talking nonsense... Fantastic Brummy accent from the first guy too!
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In all fairness there has always been money to spend.....
Its been a question of
a) How much ? and
b) Whether the Chairman had the confidence in the Manager to allow him to spend it
The General said it was about sorting out the wage bill first. I imagine that might be relaxed slightly to allow GH to add to the squad in January but it is clearly still an issue.
According to the Times, Ireland is on £65,000pw.
Fucking him off will help the figures.
Carew, Beye, Warnock, Reo-Coker and Sidwell leaving could easily free up £250k on the weekly wage bill so I wouldn't expect the stagnating wage bill to be a problem for too much longer.
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Just watched this, has anyone on here met Paul Faulkner? Does he always look like he's petrified of what the next question will be? He looked like a frightened rabbit.