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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: charlie659 on December 02, 2010, 07:06:41 PM
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......strikes again!
SSN reporting Barry Bannan doubtful for the Liverpool game with a groin injury.
When will it finally strike Richard Dunne >:(
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This is taking the piss now. It can't be a coincidence. It must be Houllier's training regime. Ever since he arrived we have had injury after injury and yet we are no fitter than we were under MON. In fact, we are letting more last minute goals in than we ever did so apart from injuring our players what exactly has this new training programme achieved?
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We've taken more causalities than the first day if the Somme. Its getting quite ridiculous.
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Perhaps he got injured last night, which is why he was substituted?
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Bannan, petrov and NRC got injured in a game.
Gabby was already injured.
Heskey and Carew spend half of every season injured.
So how is that Houllier's fault?
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Bannan, petrov and NRC got injured in a game.
Gabby was already injured.
Heskey and Carew spend half of every season injured.
So how is that Houllier's fault?
Quite, the training regime myth belongs up there with The Daily Sport headlines.
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As he came off last night, he spoke to GH as if something was wrong, hopefully nothing too serious.
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Maybe the players were not that fit to start with?
We saw Stan limping around like a pensioner in towards the end of most of our games last season.
Also, you can't rule out fatigue... Some of those players played a lot of games last season and that will have an impact.
Thirdly, it is worth pointing out that we led a charmed life with injuries under MoN. It could just be things evening themselves out... All at once.
Finally, we had a small squad to begin (we only had 23/25 over 21 players including Hogg, Osbourne and Salifou) so we didn't have that high a base to begin with. Look at Spurs: They too are running at 9 or 10 players out but due to having a big squad full of quality they can sustain those player losses.
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Aint it the curse MON left on the club? Witchcraft I tell you....
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It gives me the eebie jeebies all these injuries it could be a curse Ian.
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Bannan, petrov and NRC got injured in a game.
Gabby was already injured.
Heskey and Carew spend half of every season injured.
So how is that Houllier's fault?
Quite, the training regime myth belongs up there with The Daily Sport headlines.
Because you can pick up slight knocks or strains in training that turn into full on injuries on a matchday. It is possible to overwork the body, particularly if you are not used to putting so much strain on your muscles, joints etc. It's only a suggestion but it does seem rather odd that a new manager comes in with a tough training regime and then we have 12 or so players out injured.
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Extra training sessions ?
The morning after the Blackburn away game Young7 nearly took out
me and a mate as we walked down the drive at Bodymoor to watch
the reserves play Baggies............it was 11.30am and Ashley
was 'leaving' the training ground
I doubt that would have given them time to watch a video of the
previous day's match
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Bannan, petrov and NRC got injured in a game.
Gabby was already injured.
Heskey and Carew spend half of every season injured.
So how is that Houllier's fault?
Quite, the training regime myth belongs up there with The Daily Sport headlines.
Because you can pick up slight knocks or strains in training that turn into full on injuries on a matchday. It is possible to overwork the body, particularly if you are not used to putting so much strain on your muscles, joints etc. It's only a suggestion but it does seem rather odd that a new manager comes in with a tough training regime and then we have 12 or so players out injured.
Exactly - there's no coincidence here.
New gaffer turns up telling the world how unfit the players are and how he's going to double the training sessions and since that point a squad which has hardly had any injuries in three years has all trouped off to the treatment room at once.
Sometimes the obvious answer is the right one.
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I do fuck all training and I'm injured every other week. I've Proven your theory is bollocks already.
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I do fuck all training and I'm injured every other week. I've Proven your theory is bollocks already.
You're right. Thanks for sharing your insight and for putting me straight.
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What are the 12?
Off the top of my head this is the list:
Delph (injured before GH arrived)
Weimann (ditto)
Gabby (same)
Heskey (after, but with a history of injuries)
Carew (same)
Albrighton (somehow I doubt the training regime resulted in an acute case of appendicitis)
NRC (match injury, so it’s can’t be said with any degree of certainty that it is or isn’t the training methods)
Sidwell (Training)
Petrov (match injury)
Cuellar (Training, I think?)
Beye (Training I presume)
Collins (Training, but is back playing, unfortunately)
Bannan (match)
So of the long list that we have / had regarding injuries, 4 can be put down to training, but even at that, one is an ankle sprain, so (and I'm not an expert in this area so am willing to be corrected) that looks more of a injury that could happen at any training session across the country, not as a result of our particular methods.
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I'd just like to point out that since Houllier has arrived, training now involves people who understand the stresses and strains on a players body and probably tailor physical exertion exactly to each individual to minimise the risk of injury. What it does not involve is John Robertson tossing out a string bag full of footballs and spending an hour and a half smoking on the near touchline.
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Well Albrighton is back in training according to the OS, hopefully he'll be back next weekend.
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I'd just like to point out that since Houllier has arrived, training now involves people who understand the stresses and strains on a players body and probably tailor physical exertion exactly to each individual to minimise the risk of injury. What it does not involve is John Robertson tossing out a string bag full of footballs and spending an hour and a half smoking on the near touchline.
That appears to be somewhat less than perfect logic.
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Well Albrighton is back in training according to the OS, hopefully he'll be back next weekend.
Is he really?
Crikey. That was quick.
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Well Albrighton is back in training according to the OS, hopefully he'll be back next weekend.
Is he really?
Crikey. That was quick.
laproscopic appendisectomy ie keyhole surgery.Back for the baggies I reckon
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Anyone know if NRC and Heskey are available? they're not on the physioroom injury list anymore
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NRC I'm sure was back in light training a week or two back so he might be ready. Not sure on Hesk though.
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Some reports Heskey may be on bench
FWIW Daily Star reporting NRC available after 3 weeks out
I'm grasping at straws at the moment
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From the OS
Emile Heskey has given Gerard Houllier a major boost after declaring himself fit for action against West Brom - while Barry Bannan is also available after recovering from his groin injury.
Heskey has been out for just over a month after tearing the medial meniscus in his right knee in a training ground accident.
But manager Houllier says the powerful forward will be involved at the weekend for the derby clash with the Baggies.
Bannan, meanwhile, missed the Liverpool game after feeling pain in his groin during the Blues clash but he's been cleared for action too.
Houllier said: "Emile was not involved at Anfield but he will definitely be involved on Saturday.
"It's not down to me, it's down to other people to analyse the minutes we've played with Emile - the goals he's made, the goals he's scored, the ones he was involved in and you would see the difference.
"Emile works hard for the team and we've missed him.
"Emile is an important player for us.
"Barry was touch and go against Liverpool and I think he was a bit tired so it was good for him to have a rest.
"The other day he had a bit of a flu which you can pick up when you're tired, but on Wednesday he was fine."
In other very positive injury news, Habib Beye [ankle] and Carlos Cuellar [calf] are both fit now while Nigel Reo-Coker [knee] has returned to full training.
Steve Sidwell [achilles] is back in light training while Stiliyan Petrov [knee] should make his return to Bodymoor Heath action in two weeks time.
Houllier added: "It was Nigel's first full training with us on Wednesday. Whether he will be in contention [for West Brom] I don't know yet. I'd be surprised.
"Steve is doing well. He's running now. The next stage, of course, is getting involved in full contact training.
"And I think within two weeks Stiliyan should be back in training with us. It is ahead of schedule. He is doing extremely well.
"Habib is back as is Carlos. Regarding Carlos, he did some training last week with us and looked all right. That's why I took him and put him on the bench. I was pleased with him.
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Great news... that gives us a few more options.
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Come january with a couple of serious quality signings and everyone back fit our season will kick off .....
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we or rather MON were exceptionally lucky with injuries during his time. . shit happens and we had this coming sooner or later. the real question is after so much money spent, why we haven't got a squad who can cope with it better
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we or rather MON were exceptionally lucky with injuries during his time. . shit happens and we had this coming sooner or later. the real question is after so much money spent, why we haven't got a squad who can cope with it better
It's because we haven't spent enough to have a stronger squad. Our rivals at the top of the table have 25 senior players + kids, we have 16/17 senior players + kids. Our rivals at the top have spent 2 or 3 times more on their squads than we have.
An interesting article here that explains how the differences in training methods may have as much to do with our injury crisis as rank bad luck...
"'Incompetent' Premier League Training Methods Are Ruining Stars Like Arsenal's Robin Van Persie And Tottenham's Rafael Van Der Vaart, Says Leading Fitness Coach" - clicky (http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/2171/premier-league/2010/12/10/2254446/incompetent-premier-league-training-methods-are-ruining)
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well, while i'm prepared in theory to believe MON had a better injury preventative training regime than Houllier, i think its stretching credibility to believe his was better than Ferguson's, Ancellotti's, Wengers etc.. All those clubs suffered worse than us during MON's reign and you still can get injured playing the actual matches rather than in training and again we got off remarkably lightly. The size of our squad was one man's fault. One of my major bugbears during his reign was that we were only a couple of injuries away from disaster and when we did get a few injuries we were forced to change the formation to cope. That was the way he liked doing things but to me the law of averages says this was coming sooner or later.
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I'm hearing rumours Luke Young out.Anyone confirm?
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http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/12/10/aston-villa-gabriel-agbonlahor-is-out-of-west-brom-clash-97319-27804429/
Gabby out - BOLLOX.
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This season is cursed.
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Luke Young out with hip injury
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It's gone past a joke now !
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Luke Young out may be a blessing in disguise as it may mean Carlos back in. it seemed that Houllier was reluctant to drop Collins or Dunne so Cuellar could only have come in had Luke Young or Warnock been dropped. I doubt of he'd have done that, either.
As for Gabby out, FFS.
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Ashley is a doubt aswell, groin injury in training, same link said Beye and Cuellar will come in for Luke and Collins.
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Ashley is a doubt aswell, groin injury in training, same link said Beye and Cuellar will come in for Luke and Collins.
What link ??
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edit
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ash ruled out now too
Oh FFS !!!!!!!!
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ash ruled out now too
Oh FFS !!!!!!!!
Sorry just re read link it's Luke not Ash sorry
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ash ruled out now too
Oh I see you were getting your Young's mixed up. Easily done (wink).
Oh FFS !!!!!!!!
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Gabby is now out with illness according to OS.
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Maybe the Mods should sticky this thread it's clearly going to be a feature throughout the season :(
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Beye and Cuellar into the back four is no bad thing for me.
Cuellar is an obvious one (though one must question if he is in for the right man) and Beye is a guy who for me has yet to get a fair crack of the whip (Even when he has let us down it is at Centre Back or Left Back which is not his position).
Just a shame Warnock and Dunne aren't the ones losing out.
Gabby is a big loss BUT at least we have Heskey back who has been impressive this season and our most convincing striker.
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The thing is with Heskey - is he match fit???
We rushed gabby back and by and large he has been a shadow of his former self and is now fucked again
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On the plus side, Albion have two of their best players doubtful
Brunt & Odemwingie
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The thing is with Heskey - is he match fit???
We rushed gabby back and by and large he has been a shadow of his former self and is now fucked again
He has a chest infection. Nothing to do with rushing him back.
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F**king hell, what a nightmare.
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fucking a young out now. training this morning
FUCK YOU HOULLIER !! WITH YOUR STUPID FUCKING TRAINING REGEIME !!
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It's more like a horror picture at the moment - 'The Walking Wounded'
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Are we just mentioning names and the players get fucked there and then? Jesus, its us.
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The thing is with Heskey - is he match fit???
We rushed gabby back and by and large he has been a shadow of his former self and is now fucked again
I agree that might be the risk. As I said on the match thread though I'd like us to play two up front. Heskey and Delfouneso would be a nice partnership. We are so short staffed in midfield and have no real defensive midfielder that I can think of so to counteract this I'd go for a very attacking team as that is probably our best form of defence.
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It's more like a horror picture at the moment - 'The Walking Wounded'
fucking a young out now. training this morning
FUCK YOU HOULLIER !! WITH YOUR STUPID FUCKING TRAINING REGEIME !!
Luke Young isn't it?
Professional footballers, dare I say athletes, getting inured? Well I never...
Maybe it says more about the players current physical condition and previous training regimes then it does about the new training system...heaven forbid he should work them hard in training to improve thier fitness...
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fucking a young out now. training this morning
FUCK YOU HOULLIER !! WITH YOUR STUPID FUCKING TRAINING REGEIME !!
I keep reading your angry rants and wonder what the hell you are on about? Chest infection.....training regime..... don't get it?
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As an aside, another perspective on fitness training:
From Goal.com (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/12/10/2254345/incompetent-premier-league-training-methods-are-ruining)
'Incompetent' Premier League training methods are ruining stars like Arsenal's Robin van Persie and Tottenham's Rafael van der Vaart, says leading fitness coach
Dutch expert Raymond Verheijen says players deserve better treatment
The modern top-level professional might have the dream job, the bank balance of a small state and seemingly the best guidance money can buy to ensure he is in peak condition for match day.
But he is being chronically short-changed by training methods that are over-reliant on science at the expense of football logic. At least, that is the no-holds-barred assessment of Dutch fitness coach Raymond Verheijen, who has a pedigree that demands he is taken seriously.
Verheijen, who can count the national teams of Holland, South Korea and Russia as well as Barcelona, Chelsea, Manchester City and the Dutch FA on his CV, is the most vocal supporter of periodisation, a ‘less is more’ training technique geared to getting players fit for football rather than just plain fit.
There is a clear difference, as Verheijen explains in an exclusive interview with Goal.com UK. “The problem is a lot of people think ‘more is better’ in terms of sessions," he said. "Traditionally, people assume you have to develop the body first before you play the game.
“They push players to extend their limits to get fitter because they copy the training methods from other sports. In a lot of sports, indeed, more is better such as cycling, running, gymnastics or swimming.
“You have people who make football so unnecessarily complicated. Because of this scientific invasion people stop thinking themselves and stop using common sense. The world of football is brainwashed by fitness language. That’s why I always say, ‘Get back to basics’.
“How is it possible that 10 different clubs have 10 different fitness coaches who use 10 different training methods? Players are the victim of subjectivity. Training methods should not be based on someone’s opinion or past experience. The training methods should be football specific and use different principles to athletics and hockey.”
Verheijen, whose prospective career was cut short by a hip injury at 17, studied exercise physiology and sports psychology at the Free University, Amsterdam, where his thesis became the book Conditioning for Soccer, which has become a template for the Dutch FA coaching course.
The 39-year-old, who has a Uefa A coaching licence and argues that too many fitness coaches are not from a football background, has a proven track record of “numerous examples of very fit teams without injuries”.
He cites the South Korea national team, who he has worked with during the last three World Cup finals, including on their home turf in 2002, when he was Guus Hiddink’s No.2.
“When I first started working with Guus, I said to him, ‘Why did you ask me to work with this team? These Koreans are already top fit’. He said, ‘Wait and see until the first friendly game’. In the first 60 minutes they played with high fitness intensity with lots of actions per minute. Then they were exhausted.
“If Guus Hiddink had brought in an exercise physiologist he would have said the South Korea players lack aerobic capacity so let’s run around the pitch or through the woods. My definition of the Korean fitness problem was ‘they cannot maintain the playing style for 90 minutes’. So, use football language to define the problem. Consequently, football training will be the solution. No running around the pitch, no running around the woods. No nothing.
“We played in blocks of 10 minutes, increasing gradually from four to five to six blocks before training the playing style for 90 minutes. You have to force your players to still make actions even though the body says ‘no’. You make them fit by coaching and push them to the edge that way. If you want to play a specific playing-style for a longer period of time, just train that playing-style for a longer period of time.”
Periodisation was developed by Russian teacher Leo Matveev to prevent overtraining and result in peak performance.
“If you want to improve as a player the most important thing is to improve the speed of your actions,” Verheijen explained. “That proves football is an intensity sport and not an endurance sport. In endurance sports you need more and longer sessions and in intensity sports you focus on the quality of a session.
“If you want to increase your speed of actions, fatigue is your worst enemy. For every football session you need to be fresh and if you want to improve as a player you need to be fresh. In other words, ‘less is more’. The only way a player can improve is with better training and not more training.”
Take Arjen Robben, who spent as much time troubling the Stamford Bridge physios as he did defences during his three years in the Premier League.
“They called him the man of glass when he was at Chelsea,” said Verheijen. “Last year he played with Bayern Munich. What they did was reduce his training volume. He played the best football of his career. They won the title because of him.
“All of a sudden he was not injured anymore. The question is, ‘Was he a player of glass or was he trained by coaches of glass?’ Arjen Robben and all the other explosive players, like Robin van Persie, when they make an action they use more energy than other players.
“If they train the same volume as the other players their energy expenditure is twice as high as the other players. So you have to reduce the training volume by 50 per cent, which is what Bayern Munich did with his programme.
“When you are fatigued, the signal from your brain to your body is slower. If the signal arrives milliseconds later, you are already making an explosive football action, for example, with an unprotected knee and then a ligament snaps.”
Most Premier League clubs are now taking advantage of state-of-the-art computer technology that measures player performance and fatigue level. Yet on the weekend of 4-5 December, there were 108 top-flight players recorded as out of action, equivalent to 5.4 players for each team or a fifth of each club’s designated 25-man squad. “Whatever is going wrong, something is going wrong. Top professional players deserve better treatment,” remarked Verheijen.
Aston Villa and Tottenham were the most affected, with up to 11 players on the treatment table, and Arsenal, who lost Kieran Gibbs to another ankle injury on Wednesday, are also serial offenders. “Some of them are fractures because we have seen some horrific tackles. Some we can take away. But it is not all down to bad luck. If you check Robin van Persie’s injury history, these were not all fractures. At Arsenal he has suffered from several muscle injuries.”
Verheijen uses another Dutchman, Rafael van der Vaart, to highlight his point that players need individually tailored training programmes. He disagrees with Tottenham’s assertion that the playmaker lacks fitness.
“He is not overweight,” he said. “I knew him as a kid. I worked with him in 2001 when I assisted the Dutch Under-20 team at the World Cup in Argentina and that is the way he is built.
“Van der Vaart had a long season and didn’t have an off-season because he had to play the World Cup final. At the end of the World Cup he was still fit. His fitness was high but he had low freshness because he had just finished the World Cup and was tired.
“World Cup players are already fit – they don’t need fitness training in pre-season because it fatigues them even further and eventually leads to a loss of co-ordination and control and, ultimately, injuries.
“What they need is freshness training: one session a day, no physical work and more time to recover between sessions. I successfully used this approach for the first time with Frank Rijkaard’s Barcelona after Euro 2004.”
Verheijen’s most recent Premier League post was at Manchester City in the second half of 2009, where he worked under Mark Hughes.
“From July to November last year Manchester City had the best injury record in the Premier League. We also had by far the best statistics in terms of number of sprints per game. All we did was one session per day in pre-season.
“We trained quality and we didn’t accumulate fatigue in pre-season. We had only one injury in pre-season and that was Benjani and that was our fault. He got a groin injury and we could have avoided it.”
Roberto Mancini’s arrival brought a greater emphasis on conditioning, which brought criticism from players such as Craig Bellamy and Carlos Tevez.
“Mancini went from one session a day to two sessions a day. Instead of 75-minute sessions he went to two hours. They had seven to eight injuries in the first 10 days. Not a single journalist analyses it. That’s crazy.
“After Mancini’s arrival I was still working in other areas for Man City. However, after two weeks there were so many injuries I decided to stop all activities as people still associated me with their injury crisis.”
City have put that glut of injuries 12 months ago down to the Christmas period when, according to a spokesman, “injuries are inevitable”, and point out that they have only one player – Emmanuel Adebayor – who is injured at the moment, although it is understood that Wayne Bridge and Kolo Toure are also on the sidelines.
“Right now they get less injuries because they have multiple midweek games and they train once a day,” observed Verheijen. “There are no more double sessions so they can’t over-train anymore. Hopefully, they will keep progressing in the Europa League.”
Verheijen is calling for a complete culture shift at the highest level. He said: “Players get unnecessarily injured. Their careers are shortened by incompetent training methods. That is a hard one to swallow. Every player deserves top treatment.
“A lot of coaches treat all the players the same way, whatever their age, whatever their body composition, whatever their injury history – everybody is doing the same training, which is stupid.”
The Dutch fitness consultant, who spends two days a week working privately with Craig Bellamy at the player’s expense, added: “I would like a mentality change and the media must play a part in it. Journalists should be more critical towards injury crises. If a team has eight to 10 injuries and I was a journalist, I would want to know why. Even when I was a journalist without a medical background.
“It is impossible these injury crises are bad luck. Something is going wrong. Fatigue is the main reason for the injuries. That is why 70-80 per cent of the injuries happen.”
By speaking out, Verheijen is hopeful more people will be converted to his philosophy.
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This guy is selling himself obviously! Complete bollox saying over training is worse than over playing.
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Begs the question, do the players want to be fit to play for Houllier ??
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Begs the question, do the players want to be fit to play for Houllier ??
As they're are a mix of training, match and illness, I would imagine they've had no choice.
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Begs the question, do the players want to be fit to play for Houllier ??
As they're are a mix of training, match and illness, I would imagine they've had no choice.
On the face of it I'd agree, I'm just reading between the lines, seems highly unusual to have this many injuries at once
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The training regime myth is in fact, truth. I did some work up at villa about a month or so ago and heard all about this training regime. I never personally went up to Bodymoor Heath myself, but I do know for a fact, that Houllier has implied a tough training regime on the players which involves an insane amount of fitness, and little drills.
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Link
http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/12/10/more-injury-doubts-for-wba-game-and-adebayor-speculation-avfc/
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Link
http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/12/10/more-injury-doubts-for-wba-game-and-adebayor-speculation-avfc/
Yup, completely reliable and credible source there.
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I'm just the messenger.
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I'm just the messenger.
Can we shoot you and you can pass it on to them?
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I'm just the messenger.
Can we shoot you and you can pass it on to them?
If you like, shoot me in the ass and you can't get done for murder!
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I am sure Gabby will play some part against West Brom ........
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Bugger....
The Sun
GERARD HOULLIER'S injury crisis is mounting with news Ashley Young has damaged ankle ligaments.
Aston Villa star man Young could miss the entire Christmas period after a scan revealed the extent of the problems.
England winger Young, 25, has played through discomfort but he must rest for up to a month to avoid further damage.
Young, made skipper for Saturday's win over West Brom, has missed only one game since Houllier took over in September.
But, unless Villa risk giving him an injection, he will miss tomorrow's clash at Wigan as well as huge games against Tottenham, Chelsea and Manchester City.
Houllier's first 15 games in charge at Villa Park have been blighted by injury with setbacks for club captain Stiliyan Petrov, Nigel Reo-Coker, Emile Heskey, Gabby Agbonlahor, Steve Sidwell and Marc Albrighton.
Young has attracted interest from Spurs and Liverpool since he put his contract talks on hold until the end of the season.
Villa would demand £15million for a player who has 11 England caps.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3286734/Aston-Villa-hit-by-Ashley-Young-KO.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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If he has been playing on it for a month, then full credit to a player reckoned to be looking for a move.
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No one gives more to the cause than Ash.
I think he's massively underrated (as is Gabby) by some Villa fans, I think it'll be a big loss.
That said if Gabby's back we can go 4-4-2 and probably have more goal threat in the team... But we'll miss Ash's work rate and leadership.
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Well if Ireland really wants to make any impression. This is he`s chance. Gutted ...........
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Ashley's injury record is remarkable for a lad so slight and has no qualms about getting stuck in when playing. If Downing and Albrighton keep up their form and Ireland or someone else really steps up to the plate hopefully we won't miss him that much.
It is amazing how we've come to expect the announcement of another injury every few days over the past couple of months. MON must have pissed on all the corner flags at VP and Bodymoor before fooking off.
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By now, 'curse' is a bit strong. We should be down to only having two of our first-chocie team out on Saturday, which at this stage of the season is fairly normal.
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This could be entirely legitimate.
But the sceptic in me tells me it's a player protecting himself for a move.
I'd very much like to be wrong.
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My first thought, too, KG. I'll bet he's had a Get Well Soon card from wobbly face already.
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If he is injured, I hope we get to see Gabby and Heskey together in a 4-4-2 with Downing and Albrighton providing the goods.
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A wise old sage one told me that most players are only ever 80+% fit.
Ash -as we've seen- has been quite capable of enduring a whole host of knocks and then still makes the starting XI next week. If he's abandoned this approach now- because he feels it may jeopardise a multi million pound move- I'd be very disappointed.
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not surprised they've decided to not risk aggravating his injury after the treatment he got from the twats down the road. big loss though
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The position Ash playes in, behind the striker, would be ideal for Ireland.
But as he's acting the ******, it's out of the question.
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I think that if he wasn't injured, the staff at Villa would know.
He may be a diving, cheating git at times, but he also works his bollocks off for the team and never goes missing. I think he'd be gutted to miss any games.
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Forget Ireland, he's been a disgrace and I personally don't want to see him where a Villa shirt again
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The position Ash playes in, behind the striker, would be ideal for Ireland.
But as he's acting the c***, it's out of the question.
In the preview to one of our games, Sky had Bellamy as a pundit and he was asked about Ireland. He said he was immensely talented but a "complex personality" (takes one to know one). When asked about his best position, Bellamy said he (Ireland) didn't like playing just behind the main striker, wasn't suited to a two-man midfield, but was best in a three.
So. Mr Versatility then.
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What time is Houllier's pre match press conference? We should know then if it's true.
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heard that ash has damaged ankle, any truth ?
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heard that ash has damaged ankle, any truth ?
Out for a month was the word...
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Not good news.
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OS says that it's a knee injury and that he's likely to be back for the Spurs game.
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Luke Young still out
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It's great to read that Delph is back in light training again - can't wait till he is match fit and can start his Villa career again.
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This guy is selling himself obviously! Complete bollox saying over training is worse than over playing.
Not really. You only play for 90 minutes but training is a lot longer than that, and is more varied than just playing a game of football.
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We can judge properly how we play without Young tomorrow, against Liverpool Marc was nowhere near fit and Heskey wasn't available and we had no NRC.
So tomorrow will be more accurate.