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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Ad@m on November 10, 2010, 10:27:23 PM
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What an awful song. I hate it!
It makes us sound so bitter and pathetic. The world doesn't owe us anything.
Other fans must piss themselves when it gets sung.
Rant over!
Discuss...
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But we do!
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We do and...... He was really shit
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But we do!
So what? Must mean the team we're playing does as well.
Get on with it!!!
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And he deserved a good round of referee's a %anker too. Useless prick
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And he deserved a good round of referee's a %anker too. Useless prick
I don't mind that chant. It's targeted at the tosspot in the middle.
It's the appeal for sympathy the other chant implies that does my nut!
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And he deserved a good round of referee's a %anker too. Useless prick
Yes. He was awful.
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I hate that chant too.
It's a bit Albion
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Agree with what you're saying, but it's an accurate song. The standard of refereeing is at an all time low in my opinion.
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It pisses all over the McGrath effort.
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And the Tracie Andrews dirge.
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It's a bit Albion
Perfectly put.
The plucky underdogs, battling against adversity...
My arse!
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It pisses all over the McGrath effort.
Could be worse. They might have sung 'Ref is sh*t, my Lord...'
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Agreed. Makes us sound like Stoke.
I quite like the Paul McGrath song mind, atleast it generates some atmosphere! Better than sitting in the trinity singing nothing.
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I'm sorry, but the referee deserved whatever abuse came his way tonight, he was shocking.
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Everton game at home last season, my mate taps me on the shoulder and with a completely straight face asks 'Why are we singing about getting shipwrecked?'
Brilliant, and ever since no matter the score what awful refereeing decision we've been a victim of we burst into laughter.
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I'm sorry, but the referee deserved whatever abuse came his way tonight, he was shocking.
I agree. Who was the ref tonight? Jon's gone off with the programme.
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Baldy.
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David Blunkett with a Kojak wig on.
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Baldy.
Baldy 'Taylor = crap'. He's been fast tracked through? I hope he gets fast tracked back down. He really didn't have much of a clue.
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Why are people having a moan at people calling the referee all sorts of abuse? He was terrible tonight and deserved what he got.
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Baldy.
Baldy 'Taylor = crap'. He's been fast tracked through? I hope he gets fast tracked back down. He really didn't have much of a clue.
He looked completely out of his depth.
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I usually think decisions even themselves out over the course of a game and tonight was no different.
He made a bad decision for us, he made one for them. He disallowed a perfectly good goal for us, he pulled them up over a debatable foul throw in midfield. He turned down a stonewall penalty for us, he called them offside. The bad decisions evened themselves out.
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Disallowing a perfectly good goal v a debatable foul throw?
A stonewall penalty v an offside decision?
I don't really consider those even scenarios.
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Baldy.
Oi nothing wrong with baldy's ;)
He was shit ref it was a pen and a goal
Wanker
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Baldy.
Oi, there's no need to be hairist !!
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Disallowing a perfectly good goal v a debatable foul throw?
A stonewall penalty v an offside decision?
I don't really consider those even scenarios.
The foul throw was a foul throw though, and not the first of the evening either.
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I hate it too. It's just really whiney.
It reminds me off that song Wolves sung after the Warnock tackle "If that was us, you'd send him off". Oh just shut up!
I want a bad ref to know it is HIM directly that is shit - not that we moan about refs week in week out - which is what this song says.
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Disallowing a perfectly good goal v a debatable foul throw?
A stonewall penalty v an offside decision?
I don't really consider those even scenarios.
whooooooooosh
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The disallowed goal is one of those that looks like climbing over someone when in fact the forward has just got a run on the defender. It was a good goal that an experienced referee would probably have given.
On other subjects from last night, Fabreags was luck to stay on for the lunge on the Wolves player and I thought Essien's jump into the tackle was a sending off.
As for Joey Barton - when will the FA throw the book at him? That punch on Pederson was sly and sinister.
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I hate it too. It's just really whiney.
It reminds me off that song Wolves sung after the Warnock tackle "If that was us, you'd send him off". Oh just shut up!
I want a bad ref to know it is HIM directly that is shit - not that we moan about refs week in week out - which is what this song says.
I've heard Wolves fans sing that again since, on tv during other games. Cringe worthy.
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A very smart lady was sitting two seats away from me last night in the Lower Holte (it turned out that she is a magistrate, "sitting on the Dudley bench". She looked at me quizzically when the "shit ref" was in full flow, as if to say, "What are these words that I can't quite make out?". I explained that what she could hear was:
"Shipwrecked. We always get shipwrecked".
She was satisfied with this explanation and smiled, indulgently.
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What an awful song. I hate it!
It makes us sound so bitter and pathetic. The world doesn't owe us anything.
Other fans must piss themselves when it gets sung.
Rant over!
Discuss...
Can't remember which game it was last season, but it was the first time I heard it sung. Anyway, 5 minutes later, the referee in question gave us a penalty. Cue a round of "great refs, we always get great refs". Made me laugh anyway.
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The ref was abysmal.
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Disallowing a perfectly good goal v a debatable foul throw?
A stonewall penalty v an offside decision?
I don't really consider those even scenarios.
The foul throw was a foul throw though, and not the first of the evening either.
Correct.
I don't know why they bother with the foul throw rule any more. You see them in almost every game and they're never given. I was surprised he gave one last night.
The disallowed goal was a complete joke...shit ref indeed.
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Does GH get the opportunity to ask the ref, in the cold light of day, what he based his decisions on. The fonz goal for example - the ref MUST have seen something to give it but unless he is corrupt his eyesight must be too bad to ref because there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. I can understand refs not giving something because they didnt see it but to give something that didn't happen is incompetent at best and possibly corrupt.
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A very smart lady was sitting two seats away from me last night in the Lower Holte (it turned out that she is a magistrate, "sitting on the Dudley bench". She looked at me quizzically when the "shit ref" was in full flow, as if to say, "What are these words that I can't quite make out?". I explained that what she could hear was:
"Shipwrecked. We always get shipwrecked".
She was satisfied with this explanation and smiled, indulgently.
She is a poor judge!
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Don't worry, from where I was sat last night it could hardly be heard.
So I very doubt the ref actually heard the song.
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Disallowing a perfectly good goal v a debatable foul throw?
A stonewall penalty v an offside decision?
I don't really consider those even scenarios.
And neither do I Leeg. It's called satire.
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Disallowing a perfectly good goal v a debatable foul throw?
A stonewall penalty v an offside decision?
I don't really consider those even scenarios.
And neither do I Leeg. It's called satire.
Can you add a satire icon next time so we know when to look out for it? [adds ironic icon]
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Baldy.
Baldy 'Taylor = crap'. He's been fast tracked through? I hope he gets fast tracked back down. He really didn't have much of a clue.
Fast-tracked? Where from, St Dunstan's?
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This thread has become a discussion point on refereeing in general and last night's referee in particular. It was started as a focus for people's distaste of this chant and which I share. I don't think that it's wandering too far away from the subject to bring up, once again, the antipathy that many of us hold for the Paul McGrath chant, and I think that I'm right in saying that it was notable last night by its absence. Am I correct in this? I hope so.
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The song aside, with a stonewall penalty and that terrible decision on chalking out Fonz's header we would of been 4-1 up going into the later stages. And, as we know when your only a goal ahead one thing can go wrong and your level again and it did, thank God Collins scored that goal.
If he didn't, the referee would of cost 2 points no doubt.
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Disallowing a perfectly good goal v a debatable foul throw?
A stonewall penalty v an offside decision?
I don't really consider those even scenarios.
And neither do I Leeg. It's called satire.
Gotcha. Blame the late night and early morning start.
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It seems that someone wants to moan about every chant that gets sung
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It seems that someone wants to moan about every chant that gets sung
Wrong.
Just the ones about the Blues, the one about God, and the one that's the subject of this thread.
Which leaves...
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It seems that someone wants to moan about every chant that gets sung
Wrong.
Just the ones about the Blues, the one about God, and the one that's the subject of this thread.
Which leaves...
I've written new versions just for you.
"We regularly receive poor decisions from the referee, we don't want anyone to feel sorry for us but we're just saying, like".
"Be tolerant of all other teams, tolerant of all other teams tonight ooh, ah, ah".
"In rehab my Lord, in rehab".
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When Neil Diamond wrote
Me and you are subject to the blues now and then
But when you take the blues and make a song
You sing them out again
he wasn't kidding around.
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I think I have worked out why Ref's and linesman can be so poor.
While watching the teams warm up last night I noticed the ref and his linesman [I wont call them assistant refs] doing thier warm up.
Now the teams were practising there kicks, moves and running as well as ball skills, all things that they will be doing during the game.
The ref and his merry two were doing some synchronised jogging up and down they went it was like watching Tom Daley and his mate doing the diving.
Not once did the linesman practise putting his flag up, not once did the ref practise blowing his whistle or practise looking the wrong way, and he didnt even practice looking at his watch! all things that they will do during the game!!!!!
That is why they are poor at times because they don't warm up properly!
Mark
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the albrighton penalty claim was a shocker and what is the linesmen doing at the time.....
everyone going on about Blackpools 10 changes , we should be talking about that awful ref...
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It seems that someone wants to moan about every chant that gets sung
Wrong.
Just the ones about the Blues, the one about God, and the one that's the subject of this thread.
Which leaves...
I've written new versions just for you.
"We regularly receive poor decisions from the referee, we don't want anyone to feel sorry for us but we're just saying, like".
"Be tolerant of all other teams, tolerant of all other teams tonight ooh, ah, ah".
"In rehab my Lord, in rehab".
Actually - my point was that I'd rather we just called the ref a wanker like we always have done.
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Someone said earlier that the ref looked out of his depth and i could'nt agree more. He booked a Blackpool player 3 minutes into the game for which i presume was his first challenge and to be honest it was a free kick at the most.
He booked Warnock when he did'nt even need to. Add the goal that should have stood and the two penalty shout's and it all adds up to yet another crap ref that the Premier League have found from somewhere.
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I think I have worked out why Ref's and linesman can be so poor.
While watching the teams warm up last night I noticed the ref and his linesman [I wont call them assistant refs] doing thier warm up.
Now the teams were practising there kicks, moves and running as well as ball skills, all things that they will be doing during the game.
The ref and his merry two were doing some synchronised jogging up and down they went it was like watching Tom Daley and his mate doing the diving.
Not once did the linesman practise putting his flag up, not once did the ref practise blowing his whistle or practise looking the wrong way, and he didnt even practice looking at his watch! all things that they will do during the game!!!!!
That is why they are poor at times because they don't warm up properly!
Mark
Agree totally, my warm up consists of continuously closing my eyes so that I make sure I miss things during the game.........then sprinting for the change room after several contraversial decisions.
One thing we are NOT allowed to do is to practice blowing the whistle, flagging or anything like that, we do that in twice weekly sessions outside of match days.
Not sure if Dave can confirm what he is allowed to do on warm up but over here in sunny down under, our technical training and warm ups are done away from the pitch. On match day our focus is to get our muscles warm so that we can be close to play within reason for the duration of the match.
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You're forgetting that I've seen your warm up pre match.
It involves getting a cup of tea and a kebab. Then just as you're about to run on the pitch take out the banana you'd brought with you, decide against eating it and having one twix stick instead.
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I can't stand this song either. It's about time that people realised that it's the players that are sh*t half the time, mainly due to the fact that they're incapable of playing to the whistle and just getting on with the game. Exhibit A being Ashley 'Petulance' Young.
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You're forgetting that I've seen your warm up pre match.
It involves getting a cup of tea and a kebab. Then just as you're about to run on the pitch take out the banana you'd brought with you, decide against eating it and having one twix stick instead.
*cough* That was for amusment purposes only!