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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on November 07, 2010, 05:21:37 PM
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2-0 Home win.
Delfouneso 36
Albrighton 38
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A much overdue win - 2-1
Ash and Downing.
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1-1
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This is an absolute must win without a doubt.
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Too right, Paul. Home game against Blackpool when our away form is what it is and the month we're in for. We HAVE to win, no doubt about it.
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Our most important game of the season to date. Fail to win this and the heads will really start to drop.
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Aston Villa 3-1 Blackpool
Delfouneso (2) DJ Campbell (1)
Downing (1)
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I think we'll go behind and come back to win. 2-1.
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Line-up:
Friedel
Young (L.)
Collins
Dunne
Warnock
Albrighton
Bannan
Clark
Downing
Young (A.)
Delfouneso
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Would probably agree with that line-up legion. Interesting to see if Bannan can do it twice in 5 days.
I read that the way Blackpool play means they are quite narrow when they lose the ball. That would play to our advantage if we can get our wingers one on one against their full backs. Am a bit concerned that our midfield may be a little naive and open to being broken against though. A good composed performance from Clark and robust defending from set pieces will be crucial.
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2-1 Young and Downing.
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Must win. I'll go 2-0.
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Such a fine line between where we are and where we could be. I think we'll get a much needed win against Blackpool with Fonz having a great game
3-0 Villa - Fonz, Ash and Downing.
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Agree with that line up Legion. Only change could be Ireland for Bannan because I think he provides a bigger goal threat if he turns up.
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Delfouneso must start, he needs encouragement and dropping him could really effect his confidence, especially after being denied a chance to go out on loan.
Plus Ash n Ireland upfront against Burnley didn't work.
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I know the football world always talk about 'must win' games for like every match, but this is a must win match for us. We've got to get a win here stopping the rot and carry some momentum because even though we've been playing well the W's count for points, performances don't. A nice comfortable victory here will reassure Villa fans I think because the longer we go without our W, the worse it'll get...
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Line-up:
Friedel
Young (L.)
Collins
Dunne
Warnock
Albrighton
Bannan
Clark
Downing
Young (A.)
Delfouneso
I would play Ireland on the basis of his cameo appearance on Saturday in place of Downing and push Ashley back onto the wing. I really think (hope) that Ireland might have finally arrived!
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MUST win game ..........WILL win game............but won't keep clean sheet
3-1 home win with Fonz bagging a brace (I hope)
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2-0 to us. The Fonz to make up for yesterday and get a brace.
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Can't think of a sentence with the words 'rock', 'beach' or 'donkey' in it. Whatever. Hopefully the mighty Villa will tower over them.
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Can't think of a sentence with the words 'rock', 'beach' or 'donkey' in it. Whatever. Hopefully the mighty Villa will tower over them.
Blackpool think they are going to 'rock' up at our place and have it easy like they are lying on the 'beach' then they've got another thing coming. And hopefully we will have no donkeys playing.
How was that? 2-1 Villa, really open game with loads of chances.
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A repeat of the score when we met on this day will be fine by me.. http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=13702
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They were unlucky that the Hare's goal wasnt counted at the weekend. Looked alright to me.
We will have to play well to win but I think we will and if the Fonz gets chances this week I expect him to score. We simply cannot continue missing chance after chance. I'm hoping that it will be the day that the goals actually start going in. Dont think Blackpool are capable of playing the Bham type football that will frustrate us. They are woefully short of pace at the back so hopefully the Fonz can get in behind and cause damage.
Two changes for me - Ireland for Ashley Young. Yes that 5 minute cameo has convinced me its time to give him a chance. A kick up the arse might not do Ashley Young any harm either especially with his contract shenanigans. His attitude problems continue aswell, yes he is our most talented player but he has been acting like a dickhead on the pitch for a while now. Id also bring Cuellar in for either Dunne or Collins just to give him some deserved game time.
----------------Friedel--------------------
L Young, Cuellar, Collins/Dunne, Warnock
Albrighton, Bannan, Clark, Downing
---------------Ireland-------------------
-------------Delfouneso---------------
Will Gabby be back on the bench?
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0-0
................Friedel
Young Cuellar Collins Warnock
Albrighton Bannan Clark Downing
................Young
.............Delfouneso
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We need this - badly. I'll go for 2-0 Villa and this line-up:
Friedel
Luke Young Cuellar Collins Warnock
Albrighton Clark Bannan Ashley Young
Ireland
Delfouneso
Subs: Guzan, Dunne, Lichaj, Sidwell, Hogg, Beye, Downing
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Same team as above but Dunne in for Cuellar, 2-0 Villa, A young x 2. Ireland off the bench for some game time second half and maybe a start v Man U.
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Same team as Paul the Villan I meant.
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A comfortable 3-0 win for the Villa (Bannan, Delfouneso and Downing).
People who are saying we should drop Downing and A.Young are incorrect in my opinion.
We just cannot accomodate Ireland at the moment.
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I can't see why Downing should be dropped at the moment.
A pretty good 5 minutes isn't enough for me to give Ireland a starting role over Stewie or Bannan / Clark in central midfield.
I'm looking forward to seeing Olly and will offer translation services of his ramblings to those lucky enough to be sat with me behind the opposition bench
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We played well on Saturday, I think we will win and also that it will be a good game. Blackpool play some good attacking football, so I think there will be goals, 3-1 Villa maybe. I think we will see the youngsters continuing their impressive progress. Maybe Bannan will do a Coleman and score against the team he was part of last season. I wonder if Holloway will start with Harewood or use him as an impact sub like he has been lately?
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Must win.
As ex-Villa players always seem to pop up and score against us, its about time the opposite worked in our favour so I'll go for a Bannan winner. I'm sure the Hare is nailed on to score though.
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I'm with you Matt, I can't believe no-one has predicted The Hare to score!
That said, I think it'll click...4-1 Fonz, Ash, Downing and Wee Barry, Hare for them, obviously!!
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2-0 Villa
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I think we're due to give someone a twatting. It should have been Fulham, but for bad finishing and a front two lacking in confidence.
The youngsters are looking good. Downing is playing pretty well too. If we can get Ash to relax a bit and just not try too hard, it'll be good. There's far too much pressure on him to be our main man, so I'd take him out the firing line and give Ireland a game. Ash may just need a rest too.
3-0
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4-0 win. Ash, Fonz x2 and Collins.
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2-1, with us desperately holding on for the 3 points.
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What on earth is going on?! I have checked the news wires all day and it seems that not a single senior Villa player was injured at training today, then ruled out for at least one month. Is that fitness coach en vacance peut etre??
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MUST win, simple as that, especially with Man Utd at home, Blackburn away and Arsenal at home coming up, i'd be surprised if we got 1 point out of those three.
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Must Must Win .... 1:0 Bannan
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Line-up:
Friedel
Young (L.)
Collins
Dunne
Warnock
Albrighton
Bannan
Clark
Downing
Young (A.)
Delfouneso
I would go with this except I would put Ash on the bench and start Ireland instead.
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What on earth is going on?! I have checked the news wires all day and it seems that not a single senior Villa player was injured at training today, then ruled out for at least one month. Is that fitness coach en vacance peut etre??
They must have had a day off.
Keep your ears pricked for any Darius Vassell like cutting his toenails with a machette type injuries whilst at home though.
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No, they had a double session today, Pat Herd was on radio today talking about Bannan's driving test.
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This game could be another one to suit Bannan in the centre of midfield, as Blackpool are as lightweight as Fulham in midfield. He'll learn to cope with more physical teams in time, but right now this could suit him.
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Must win.
As ex-Villa players always seem to pop up and score against us, its about time the opposite worked in our favour so I'll go for a Bannan winner. I'm sure the Hare is nailed on to score though.
Was just about to say the same....you just know the Hare will get at least one goal. Let's just hope it's an own goal...
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We really need a win in this one with the four fixtures we have after that.
Blackpool are quite an open team so we will get chances and space to play in midfield.
2-1 us, Young and Bannan.
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Can't see us scoring more than 1.... worried!
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Blackpool are a very open team playing three strikers so we'll get plenty of chances, they won't come and stick 11 men behind the ball that's for sure as they didn't when they went to Arsenal or Chelsea.
Worry is I don't think we'll keep a clean sheet either.
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Blackpool play an open game and they score goals. In our tender state, they will be no pushover. We have to win it, so I'm going for 2:1 to us, but I won't be in the slightest bit taken aback if we should screw it up.
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5-2
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3.1. Fonz,Collins and Ireland, after coming off the bench.
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4-2 Villa
Be as is said, a VERY open game, but we will score a few
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1-1
Delfouneso and Taylor-Fletcher to score.
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These are no push over, they were very u lucky against Everton, they should have won with Harewood's goal!
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That Harewood goal was a blatant push!
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5-2
I thought you already predicted a 0-0, as usual?
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feck it im overly optimistic perhaps but our defence has been very solid, with two genuine wide men I think we can really stretch them. The Fonz will get chances of that I'm sure.
I think we will win comfortably 3-0 with the Fonz on the scoresheet.
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5-2
I thought you already predicted a 0-0, as usual?
0-0 first half.
5-2 second half.
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If the Hare scores then I'll stand up and clap. I always liked the guy. :)
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Any Win Will Do.
Even a slim 1-0 win via a Nani-esque goal.
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We just need a win, any type of win, I do fancy us for a 3-1
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I'm getting a bit fed up with conceeding goals to straightforward arial crosses into the box. Drop Warnock, move Luke to LB and bring back Cuellar with Dunne and Collins in the centre, it was the tightest defensive formation in the league last season.
3-0
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What odds at the bookies would you get for villa 3.2 win with the Hare scoring 1st goal?
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I think Albrighton needs the added support of Luke behind him and helping out, Cuellar would not offer this.
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What odds at the bookies would you get for villa 3.2 win with the Hare scoring 1st goal?
150/1 at Victor Chandler.
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Against my better judgment I'm going to beleive the dream I had where we won 4-2 in this one!
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I'm getting a bit fed up with conceeding goals to straightforward arial crosses into the box. Drop Warnock, move Luke to LB and bring back Cuellar with Dunne and Collins in the centre, it was the tightest defensive formation in the league last season.
3-0
The simple thing to do is to swap them around when were defending a cross coming from left to right towards the left back area.
On the game,though im far from panicking,we really need to win,Blackpool should allow us to play and create chances,a tight 2-1 win.
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If you give the opposition's best header of the ball a free header you'll struggle not matter who is picked.
We miss Cuellar defensively but obviously not going forward, you can't have both.
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Gabby on the bench according to WM! At last a glimmer of good injury news.
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So..... is Steve Sidwell now out for six weeks following a decision to have an op on his Achilles? I've read that but as the only source seems to be from the Mirror, I'm not sure it's accurate...
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2-0 then bring on the Mancs!!
Looking forward to turning them over in front of one of my customers I am taking to the game. Assuming he make it up in time from KENT!!
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What odds at the bookies would you get for villa 3.2 win with the Hare scoring 1st goal?
150/1 at Victor Chandler.
Has to be worth a fiver!
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Uh Oh
Lawro has only gone and predicted a 2-1 win for us, is that the kiss of death?
Aston Villa v Blackpool
I saw Blackpool the other week, and the thing you can always say about them is that they start really well and go for it, but their problem is that they can't soak up pressure, and Villa will be able to pick them off.
Despite the absence of big-name players like Gabby Agbonlahor and John Carew in the 1-1 draw at Fulham, Villa should have won. Gerard Houllier's counter-attacking approach is perfect for playing against a team like Blackpool, who just go for it. Other teams may know how to deal with it, but against Blackpool, I think it'll be enough.
Prediction: 2-1
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What is is with Lawro and ''Houllier's counter-attacking approach''? We took the game to Fulham on Saturday after a sluggish start. It was your old mucker O'Neill who loved the counter-attacking approach yet.
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That over-used cliche "must win game" is trotted out far too often but this is a must win game with the fixtures we have coming up.
Agree that it will be an open game which will be better for our creative players. I just worry about our finishing.
It won't be comfortable.
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5-2 Villa, with a shocking start leaving us 2-0. Back level by half time and steam roller them second half.
Friedel
L.Young
Collins (1)
Dunne (would prefer carlos but it won't be him)
Warnock
Albrighton
Bannan
Clark
Downing (2)
Ash (1)
The Fonz (1)
Subs: Guzan, Beye, Cuellar, Ireland, Gabby, Lichaj, Hogg
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5-2 Villa, with a shocking start leaving us 2-0. Back level by half time and steam roller them second half.
Friedel
L.Young
Collins (1)
Dunne (would prefer carlos but it won't be him)
Warnock
Albrighton
Bannan
Clark
Downing (2)
Ash (1)
The Fonz (1)
Subs: Guzan, Beye, Cuellar, Ireland, Gabby, Lichaj, Hogg
Can't stand vague posts like this. You couldn't be a bit more specific could you?
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Can't stand Lawrenson. We had a "counter-attack based approach" under his mate, now we don't and he's saying we do. The man's got no bloody eyes.
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This is a MUST MUST WIN
Will be tough but I think we'll win 1-0
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my personal choice:
----------------------------------friedel---------------------------------
L.Young----------Cuellar----------------Collins--------------Beye
Albrighton----------Ireland-------------Bannan---------------Downing
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For the record, I predict a 0-0 bore draw. Though I really think every one of us in the stands needs to get behind the team 100% and give them our full support, no moaning, no grunting...untill after.
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I think a midfield three of Ireland, Bannan and Young further forward has pretty much no defensive instinct. I'd still put Clark in there, just so we can have that platform for the creative players to build on. For that system there to work you'd need all three contributing fully defensively and offensively, and I don't think that Bannan is ready to play that demanding a role yet - and Ash probably never will be. Ireland could, if he's taken GH's words to heart recently, but I'm not so sure yet.
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my personal choice:
----------------------------------friedel---------------------------------
L.Young----------Cuellar----------------Collins--------------Beye
Albrighton----------Ireland-------------Bannan---------------Downing
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--------------------------Fonzie------------------------------------------
For the record, I predict a 0-0 bore draw. Though I really think every one of us in the stands needs to get behind the team 100% and give them our full support, no moaning, no grunting...untill after.
Nice but maybe a bit too attacking
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I am already nervous about this game, it is so important we get three points.
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Beye at left back over Warnock, you're kidding right, did you see Vienna at home?
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5-2 Villa, with a shocking start leaving us 2-0. Back level by half time and steam roller them second half.
Friedel
L.Young
Collins (1)
Dunne (would prefer carlos but it won't be him)
Warnock
Albrighton
Bannan
Clark
Downing (2)
Ash (1)
The Fonz (1)
Subs: Guzan, Beye, Cuellar, Ireland, Gabby, Lichaj, Hogg
Can't stand vague posts like this. You couldn't be a bit more specific could you?
And every goal will be scored with an outside of the boot 40 yard curler.
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Just read an article 'interview with a Blackpool fan'
It was about tomorrows game, when asked about a predication he said villa 2.0 win, because Blackpool are resting a few for West ham.
Abit weird to hear that.
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0-1 Harewood.
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good stuff. 4-0 tomorrow and we could be in 6th. Crisis? What crisis?
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By my reckoning, a 4-1 win takes us above Spurs, who are currently 6th. A defeat leaves us at best 15th. I know it's still pretty early in the season, but it's a weird league table this year.
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Gate prediction : 36,750
Blackpool are bringing 1,700, and we should be able to manage at least 35,000.
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Gate prediction : 36,750
Blackpool are bringing 1,700, and we should be able to manage at least 35,000.
i would not bet on it
High 20's i feel tonight
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From the OS, hard to tell, but I would have thought at least 35k plus, we must have 26/27k season tickets plus the away fans, so I doubt we'll ever get sub 30k for a league match
Availability
Trinity Road Stand - Upper: Low [Blocks A1, A2 and A3 only]
Trinity Road Stand - Middle: Single seats only
Trinity Road Stand - Lower: Low [Blocks C1, C2 only]
North Stand - Upper: OK
North Stand - Lower: OK
Doug Ellis Stand - Upper: OK
Doug Ellis Stand - Lower: Low
Holte End - Upper: OK
Holte End - Lower: OK
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1-1 with yet another late equaliser.
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2-0
young 18
gabby 87
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From the OS, hard to tell, but I would have thought at least 35k plus, we must have 26/27k season tickets plus the away fans, so I doubt we'll ever get sub 30k for a league match
Availability
Trinity Road Stand - Upper: Low [Blocks A1, A2 and A3 only]
Trinity Road Stand - Middle: Single seats only
Trinity Road Stand - Lower: Low [Blocks C1, C2 only]
North Stand - Upper: OK
North Stand - Lower: OK
Doug Ellis Stand - Upper: OK
Doug Ellis Stand - Lower: Low
Holte End - Upper: OK
Holte End - Lower: OK
The gates always include ST holders, present or not, so I think you're right.
I think I will take my prediction downwards mind you - to about 33,750.
We really do require some inspirational activity from GH in the transfer window in January to get the club going again.
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I bloody hate games like this. The ones we should win but never seem to be able to.
Also, if by the end of tonight, I've heard Mowbray or any other of the over-excited, incessant, loud and shouty BBC commentators, once again, using the expression "Tangerine Dream", then I will get into my car, drive down to their studios and play out my own "Baseball Bat Dream".
I'll predict a difficult win, but I won't be at all surprised if we lose.
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Gate prediction : 36,750
Blackpool are bringing 1,700, and we should be able to manage at least 35,000.
Are you sure?
They only have the top bit of the doug ellis as the club are offering 4 for £40 in the lower part
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I think the whole away allocation is about 3,200, so 1,700 doesn't sound far off, for the top tier only, as it is deeper, but i may be completely wrong.
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I thought we allocated 2400???
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yes, but they have to stable the donkeys somewhere
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Also, if by the end of tonight, I've heard Mowbray or any other of the over-excited, incessant, loud and shouty BBC commentators, once again, using the expression "Tangerine Dream", then I will get into my car, drive down to their studios and play out my own "Baseball Bat Dream".
Hey, no hating on "Tangerine Dream" or you'll have me and Legion to answer to !!
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I think it's going to be a draw. 2-2
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned that this is a `must win' game.
Oh, right
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned that this is a `must win' game.
Oh, right
I think the general conception is that it is a "must win" game which we need to avert a "French farce".
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I haven't got time to audition for any French farces. I'm trying to put the wheels back on this bandwagon
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I haven't got time to audition for any French farces. I'm trying to put the wheels back on this bandwagon
Now if it were French Fancies, that might be a different story...
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This season is threatening to turn into a fondant fancy, if Houllier is unable to maintain levels of screenwash in his claret and blue juggernaut.
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Must win games are my favourite. I've never been a fan of games where the objective is indeterminate.
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Must win games are my favourite. I've never been a fan of games where the objective is indeterminate.
I know what your sayin I just think we need to win tonight as Saturdays game will be very difficult and we should beat teams like Blackpool at home thats no disrespect to them though as they have had good away results this year
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Must win games are my favourite. I've never been a fan of games where the objective is indeterminate.
Love it, Maz. Reminds me of when someone asked Roy Keane if a game was a six-pointer and he replied "last time I checked it was still three points for a win."
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A must win game for us.
2-0 Fonz & Young
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3-0 (Downing, Collins, Tamworth Messi)
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I'll settle for any kid of win, no matter how scrappy.
First time we've played Blackpool in my lifetime.
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I'll settle for any kid of win, no matter how scrappy.
First time we've played Blackpool in my lifetime.
last time I went to see us play them in the FA cup I hitched there as usual but only got as far as Wellington. Went instead and watched Telford get stuffed at home to Weymouth. Deep joy.
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I hope Blackpool win every game of their season except this one and Blackpool V Villa....
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Need a win to keep in touch with the top sides. Could be 10 points off 4th otherwise.
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3-1 Fonz. Cesc Bannan and Loinel Albrighton
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I don't care how we win, as long as we do.
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4-0. No fooking about.
They've done exceptionally well since coming up/ isn't Holloway a character yada yada yada.
4-0. Ooof!
Business as usual after this one though, struggling to score more than 1, throwing leads away in the last few minutes et.c
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Blackpool have made 10 changes for tonights game!
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Lets not forget that Blackpool went to Newcastle and beat them 2-0, this is the place that we lost 6-0!
This will not be an easy match at all... roll up your sleeves time!