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Title: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Gaztonniller on November 05, 2010, 09:53:03 PM
Use to be back in the early years of Cricket/Football clubs that the starting team use to be picked by members of a board/commitee voting by show of hands, which players would be in the first eleven.
Obviously things have slightly changed since then with responsibility for selecting the first team falling to an appointed Manager aided by his coaches/assistants.
With supporters now having the technological means to almost instantly express their views on websites such as H&V, it maybe that in future the new team selector of a teams starting eleven (by concensus) could be YOU, the supporter.
If such a fans concensus selection system was around today, what would the first team to start against Man Utd (Nov 2010) look like, and would it be much different from that team Houllier & Co will eventually select?

The main twenty-two man Villa squad list (with a few additions) is listed and everyone who participates needs to be logged in to vote, and has only 11 votes to select the first eleven (traditional 4-4-2 system)  to start against Man U.
Needless to say the Goal keeper/four defenders/ four midfielders/ two attackers with highest number of votes by the close of the poll, would be the players who (by Villa fans concensus) would start against Man U. :-\
Title: Re: Can the fans choose a starting eleven
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 05, 2010, 10:00:00 PM
                     Friedel
Young        Cuellar    Collins    Warnock
          Petrov    NRC       Delph
      Ireland                     Young
                       Gabby
Title: Re: Can the fans choose a starting eleven
Post by: Gaztonniller on November 05, 2010, 10:24:07 PM
                     Friedel
Young        Cuellar    Collins    Warnock
          Petrov    NRC       Delph
      Ireland                     Young

                       Gabby

----------------------------------------

Hope you ticked the vote boxes that correspond to your preferred players for that starting eleven.
Title: Re: Can the fans choose a starting eleven
Post by: Mark H on November 05, 2010, 10:25:47 PM
I went :-

              Friedel

Young   Dunne  Collins  Warnock

              Delph   NRC

Allbrighton   Young   Downing

                   Gabby     
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: curiousorange on November 05, 2010, 10:32:26 PM
I'm not surprised in the slightest that at the time of writing, Carew has no takers despite the exercise being completely hypothetical.
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Shrek on November 05, 2010, 10:58:20 PM
Friedel

Young
Cueller
Collins
Warnock

Downing
Petrov
NRC
Albrighton

Ash

Gabby

This was my vote, based on if every one was fit, I'd hope delph has petrov's place by the end of the season
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: usav on November 05, 2010, 11:00:27 PM
15 people have voted, only two players have had 15 votes:  Friedel and Ashley Young.
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: AV82EC on November 05, 2010, 11:02:17 PM
errrr Luke Young?
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: timeoutbigbar on November 05, 2010, 11:39:15 PM
                     Friedel

Young    Cuellar       Collins     Warnock

                Nige         Delph

Downing                                  Ash
                             
                       Ireland
           
                         Gabby

edit:  someone voted for curtis? must be on the sherry
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: JJ-AV on November 06, 2010, 01:00:39 AM
Friedel
Young - Cuellar - Collins - Warnock
NRC - Petrov
Downing - Ireland - Ashley
Gabby
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Dante Lavelli on November 06, 2010, 01:06:18 AM
Isn't the Ebbsfleet United (?) team picked based on some sort of supporter input?
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: BILL DE VALL on November 06, 2010, 02:27:19 AM
to be honest I picked big john up front(his 1st pick)

I have not gone insane

it's just if I was picking the team you have to have someone to muscle up the defenders to balance the lack of size/strength in the forward line
on his day(rare I know) he can be a nightmare for the opposition centre backs
and with Ash, Albrighton and Downing wipping the balls in he can nod them down to Gabby

Big Emile doesn't fill me with confidence because of the way he carries himself-he is uncomfortable with his size whereas Carew seems happy in his own skin-so to speak

Friedel,Young(L),Collins,Cuellar,Warnock,NRC,Young(A),Downing,Albrighton,Carew,Gabby
4-1-2-1-2

I rate Ireland but...he hasn't gelled yet
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: timeoutbigbar on November 06, 2010, 03:37:08 AM
Think it is very telling how far Dunne has fallen in fans views that the majority would rather have Cuellar and Collins.  He really needs to sort himself out, but also seems to be a certain starter under the new regime.  Not good.
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: *shellac* on November 06, 2010, 04:51:37 AM
Friedel
Young - Cuellar - Collins - Warnock
Reo Coker - Delph
Albrighton - Young - Downing
Agbonlahor
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: mark1968 on November 06, 2010, 06:05:38 AM
I went for:-

Friedal

Young
Cueller
Collins
Warnock

Downing
Petrov
NRC
Young

Ireland

Gabby
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: eamonn on November 06, 2010, 06:40:15 AM
I think this is the sexiest poll I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: The Villa Werewolf on November 06, 2010, 08:45:23 AM
Where's Ciaran Clark?
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Bad English on November 06, 2010, 09:18:37 AM
<Usage Nazi> consensus (http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/concensus.html).</Usage Nazi>
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: darren woolley on November 06, 2010, 09:25:40 AM
               Friedel
L.Young-Collins-Cuellar-Warnock
Albrighton-Delph-NRC-Downing
               A.Young
                 Gabbi
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: *shellac* on November 06, 2010, 09:26:35 AM
No sight of Delfouneso too.
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Bad English on November 06, 2010, 09:29:21 AM
Who the FUCK is "Mustapha 'He's the Togoloese Zidane, you know' Salifou"?
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 06, 2010, 09:29:41 AM
Friedel
Young
Warnock
Cuellar
Collins
Young
Albrighton
Clark
NRC
Ireland
Agbonlahor

Edit too attacking, I chose Hogg but when I say Hogg I mean Clark!!

So its

                  Brad
Young Cuellar collins Warnock
               Clark
Albrighton   NRC  Young
             Ireland
             Agbonlahor
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Gaztonniller on November 06, 2010, 10:26:37 AM
<Usage Nazi> consensus (http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/concensus.html).</Usage Nazi>

  :-[
Title: Re: Can the fans (by concensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 06, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
               Friedel
L.Young-Collins-Cuellar-Warnock
Albrighton-Delph-NRC-Downing
               A.Young
                 Gabby
Title: Re: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Legion on November 06, 2010, 10:36:03 AM
Who is Carlo Cuellar?
Title: Re: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Legion on November 06, 2010, 10:38:14 AM
From the available options:

Friedel
Collins
Cuellar
Young (L.)
Warnock
Downing
Reo-Coker
Petrov
Young (A.)
Albrighton
Agbonlahor
Title: Re: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: TheSandman on November 06, 2010, 01:17:39 PM
Friedel

Young
Cueller
Collins
Warnock

Downing
Petrov
NRC
Albrighton

Ash

Gabby

This was my vote, based on if every one was fit, I'd hope delph has petrov's place by the end of the season

Mine too... Agree with the Delph part too. If he can step up in Petrov's place over time we will only need to get one new midfielder for me.
Title: Re: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Marlon's Hairy Wood on November 06, 2010, 01:27:52 PM
At this point in time i'd play (well assuming Gabbys fit after today)

Friedel

Young
Cuellar
Collins
Warnock

Albrighton
Reo Coker
Downing
Young

Agbonlahor
Delfouneso

thats what i'd play next week when Gabbys fit

now i'd probably have bannan in for gabby and have him and young switching it up

depressing times
Title: Re: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: hipkiss92 on November 06, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
I think you're missing a few players.
Title: Re: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Mister E on November 06, 2010, 05:01:55 PM
By consensus? - I doubt it.
Title: Re: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Mister E on November 06, 2010, 05:02:35 PM
No Ciaran Clark; half these players are injured ...
so, no.
Title: Re: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Gaztonniller on November 13, 2010, 12:07:47 AM
GK                  BRAD FRIEDEL                82 (9.1%)
DEF-------------JAMES COLLINS              75 (8.3%)
DEF-------------CARLOS CUELLAR           70 (7.8%)
DEF-------------STEPHEN WARNOCK       78 (8.7%)
DEF-------------LUKE YOUNG                   78 (8.7%)
MID                STEWART DOWNING       67 (7.4%)
MID                STILLIAN PETROV           41 (4.6%)
MID                NIGEL REO COKER          67 (7.4%)
ATT------------ MARC ALBRIGHTON         52 (5.8%)
ATT-------------ASHLEY YOUNG               79 (8.8%)
ATT ------------GABRIEL AGBONLAHOR   81 (9.0%)


Seems like going by the voters on H&V the your preferred starting line up against Man U (if all players were fit) would look something like the above.The current crop of injuries may have influenced your votes, would have been interesting to see if the voting would have changed if all the player were available for team selection, & yes if Clark!! was included too.

PS Thanx for all who voted, interesting results  ;)

Title: Re: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: hawkeye on November 13, 2010, 01:04:52 AM
i think that is our best team and that is a worry althogh i would swap bannan for dowing or young and go 4-3-3
Title: Re: Can the fans (by consensus) choose a starting eleven
Post by: Lucky Eddie on November 13, 2010, 04:48:21 AM
Although the voting has closed, I'd like to place a post humous 'vote' to SALIFOU so that I can still be singing our best ever chant whilst the rest of you moody losers are exiting the ground early as per usual.
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