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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on October 30, 2010, 08:38:56 PM
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Available Sunday morning.
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Come on Villa, please please win.
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Any links up yet?
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Still no team news?
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clark or collins in midfield , luke back , only heskey up front
ireland , beye out ,
friedal
young dunne collins warnock
downing clark reo coker sidwell a young
heskey
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Here we go:
VILLA: Friedel; Luke Young, Dunne, Clark, Collins, Warnock; A Young, Reo-Coker, Downing, Sidwell; Heskey. Subs: Ireland, Carew, Delfouneso, Guzan, Cuellar, Bannan, Lichaj.
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tight scrappy game i think, wm expecting clark to sit in front of back 4
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interesting selection of Clark. As I say come on you Villa boys.
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ireland on bench so interesting to see collins or clark in defensive midfield role
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negative line up , cant see where the goals are coming from , maybe a 1-0 if we are lucky.
both teams going one up front , maybe a 0-0
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Quality lineup, I am really confident now, Sidwell might do ok without the defensive responsibilities.
COME ON
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I suppose starting with that team means there are attacking options on the bench to change the game.
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Ireland should play ahead of Sidwell if it's an attacking midfield.
Worried about the goals, also how Clark would fair in the midfield too.
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I like the look of Clark as I think he can play a bit, but whether this is the time or the place to try him there i'm not too sure.
Ireland has been all over the place recently so I'm ok with him on bench but then there's Sidders........ :-X
I think we had to go with 5 in midfield, especially as one of them is Sidwell, and the games often pass him by.
Time will tell, but from what we have available, it's ok.
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not sure if collins or clark will play the holding role? interesting if it works out well though , not looking good for irelands chances if sidwell get in ahead of him.
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With a packed midfield, hopefully Sidwell won't feel the need to go flying into challenges and get himself sent off.
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http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=91324&part=sports
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I'm sorry, but that Villa team is possibly the worst I've seen since DOL days, over half of that team were sat on the bench last season.
I hate to be negative, and genuinely think I'm being honest and realistic rather than negative, but that is a mid table side and whatever the result today we need some major surgery in January.
More hopeful than confident of a 1-0 win. Luckily the Blues side looks pretty woeful too!
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So no-one thinks it's a 3-5-2 line up with L.Young & Warnock providing the overlaps?
I like the selection, it's bold, different and should be solid and combative - today is not going to be a pretty game of football and after Mr Gardeners comments, it could be nastier than usual.
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What did Gardner say?
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Not surprised by the formation. Don't see it as all that negative, just that we will need to win the battle in midfield. Young will play off Heskey anyway....
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What did Gardner say?
Something about 'knowing how they play' insinuating we;re a bit predictable.
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Right just got back from Indochina for this.
As fot the team: Hmm, I don't like it but I hope I proved suitably wrong.
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Come on Villa, a manager who can change it tactically brilliant!
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What did Gardner say?
Something about 'knowing how they play' insinuating we;re a bit predictable.
Ah thanks, he's certainly got more vocal since he joined the draggers.
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Anyone know where to watch this paid or free cant beleive its not on box....cheers
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Right just got back from Indochina for this.
As fot the team: Hmm, I don't like it but I hope I proved suitably wrong.
Where have you been? My Wife is just coming back from Jakarta now.
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gardner has t shirt with message for us if he scores apparently. young will play on the right , not off heskey , both sides 4-5-1
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Morning gents.
Very interesting selection. Feeling more confident about this than I was half an hour ago. Might have to change my prediction from a 1-0 win to 2-0.
After moaning about how we never seem to score from corners any more, expect today to see a change in our luck.
Come on Villa, let's get the 3 points and move on up the league.
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http://www.vipfast.net/ch1.html im going to try this for starters
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over half of that team were sat on the bench last season.
You mean L Young, NRC, Sidwell and Heskey?
Young is the best Full back at the club, NRC has been our best player this season and Heskey (at present) is far better than Carew! Sidwell you may have a point but we have little options following injuries, suspension and the performance of our last leader!
At least Ged is aware of this and I'm sure we will def do some decent business in January.
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^I hope that is untrue. A total lack of respect if he does a Tait. Proper small time
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What did Gardner say?
Something about 'knowing how they play' insinuating we're a bit predictable.
Ah thanks, he's certainly got more vocal since he joined the draggers.
He also was quoted along the lines of Birmingham can become the City's leading club.
No further comment needed.
Come on Villa..................
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cheers for link its on watchfootballnow.com 9.99 for a year but dunno if its dodgy
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gardner has t shirt with message for us if he scores apparently. young will play on the right , not off heskey , both sides 4-5-1
Why did you let me go? Can I come back? Oh no, what have I done?
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do you really think we will play 3-5-2
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4-5-1 with Clark or Warnock in midfield?
It's different I'll give Hotlips that.
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“Villa are looking over their shoulders now, and so they should be,” Gardner said. “There is the potential to become the city’s top team. I’d like Villa to be underdogs and Blues to be above them. Time will tell won’t it?”
“Now we’re moving up the table and doing well every week. Last season we finished really high and we’re looking to improve on that. If we did finish above them this year because then we could give them six or seven years of stick all in one year.”
From the Telegraph online
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http://www.vipfast.net/ch1.html
good stream , not sure if commentary will be in english though
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Come on boys, listening to it on Talk Sport, sounds a fantastic atmosphere...
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watching with dutch comentary
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clueless ******.. he wasnt good enough for us, which is why he is at the Blues...
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Come on Villa, please win this.
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http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4ccbff3af0ddb (http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4ccbff3af0ddb)
No sound here, but a decent enough picture.
So. That's a..........curious team selection, then....
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COME ON VILLA
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http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4ccbff3af0ddb
No sound though i'm afraid.
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Holding possession well
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Clark in midfield.
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Screw you neanderthal knuckledragging troglodytes.
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No one else mentioned that they've turned us around?
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Good covering Dunne.
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http://www.show-sports.net/
english commentary
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http://www.vipfast.net/ch1.html
good stream , not sure if commentary will be in english though
Cheers for that. I'm stuck in Miami airport but that's working perfectly and the free bar has just opened at 8am in time for kick-off. Now for a Villa win.
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http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=91324&part=sports
plenty of streams lads
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Emile nearly in there, good ball by Ash.
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Heskey nearly got on the end of that. Close.
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Oooh! Thought Heskey should have got on to thta, really. Decent start, anyway.
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Morning all.
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Morning usav.
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Fucking Gardner
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Craig Gardner.
What a prick.
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Good, Gardner yellow card, that should keep him a bit quieter.
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Garderner still trying to prove he's a nose. ******.
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Does anybody know how to turn off that annoying chat box on show sports?
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doubt gardner will even last to half time here, that was a shocker on reo
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Nearly good link up between Stew, Ash and Emile.
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Do Blues do anything other route one?
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Craig Gardner fucking scum
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Hoof it towards Zigic, hope for a knock-down or ricochet, and repeat.
Must be fucking fun to watch that all season.
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Come on Villa, let's tear into these pus-sores.
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WTF was Young supposed to do there?? He just ran in front of him.
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Not a foul by Ash there, if anything the Blues defender stepped across him.
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Hoof it towards Zigic, hope for a knock-down or ricochet, and repeat.
Must be fucking fun to watch that all season.
Just thinking the same thing. Awful.
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I know it's a derby but there's not much quality on show is there?
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Starting to play decent stuff now.
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Free kicks from that position used to mean something to us. What happened?
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Free kicks from that position used to mean something to us. What happened?
During that period, we had Laursen, plus a hungry Carew and a fit Agbonlahor to take advantage.
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Cant get the Veetle link to work but decent picture here:
http://domacifilmovi.us/ch2.php
edit: click refresh if you see a pair of tits! lol
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Free kicks from that position used to mean something to us. What happened?
During that period, we had Laursen, plus a hungry Carew and a fit Agbonlahor to take advantage.
I was thinking more of the delvery being shite.
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Hleb must be really confused. It must be like playing rugby after playing at Barca and Arsenal.
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close, Reo charged down Foster.
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Sidwell is getting stuck in, and that's just lovely, but he might want to think about calming the hell down a little.
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Free kicks from that position used to mean something to us. What happened?
During that period, we had Laursen, plus a hungry Carew and a fit Agbonlahor to take advantage.
I was thinking more of the delvery being shite.
Yeah, well, that doesn't help either!
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Nice stuff Nigel, probably the only way he;ll ever score!
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We're getting forced back a bit here.
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Cant get the Veetle link to work but decent picture here:
http://domacifilmovi.us/ch2.php
edit: click refresh if you see a pair of tits! lol
Good but fucks of to some insurance site after 45 seconds :(
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come on Villa, get the fucking ball.
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Have we had a shot yet!!!
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Cant say I've had that problem tbh mate...just the occasional pair of tits when the stream goes down.
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My stress levels are rising to uncomfortable levels here! Have to miss the second half though, courtesy of family Sunday Roast arrangements. It's probs for the best....
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We've got to step it up against these wankers.
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This is dire - 62% possession last 5 mins to this bunch of cloggers. This midfield isnt working and downing can't get in the game
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We are under pressure now, the midfield needs to get a grip.
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All about the result but this is turgid.
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This is really poor from us now.
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There is no way on this Earth we are going to score today with the forwards we have at our disposal. There is little quality out there on either side. Now wonder we're 11th and 13th.......
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They're the better team at the moment. Come on Villa sort it out.
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Get it together Villa.
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We are under pressure now, the midfield needs to get a grip.
The Midfield needs to find a left side! They are doubling up when attacking Warnock every time....
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Dirty bluenose twat.
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We are so missing some pace upfront.
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Why isnt this live on radio 5?
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There is no way on this Earth we are going to score today with the forwards we have at our disposal. There is little quality out there on either side. Now wonder we're 11th and 13th.......
Yeah, going forward there aren't enough options for support. Whereas they seem to have overlaps and space when they attack.
On a positive, Clark seems composed.
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Is this ref going to give a foul everytime the ball goes within 5 yards of Heskey?
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We have been rubbish for about 15 minutes now.
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Spongebob Squarepants on Nickalodeon, think I'll watch that instead, this is awful.
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Pathetic.
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Ireland should come on for Clark.
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This team normally has one good half a game, and I'm hoping this is the crap 50%!
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Today is the best chance the Shite have had in a long time to beat us. Poorest Villa team I've seen in some time. Not Houlliers fault, that irish bloke that managed before. Who, despite the fact that everybody says how amazing he is as a manager is going to end up at Al-Hilal.....
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We really are shocking at keeping possession. You'd think we were the away team.
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Surely we can't play this bad in the second half?
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I was going to say you wouldn't know we're at home.
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Great - a free kick
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Needless yellow for Warnock.
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Why isnt this live on radio 5?
I was wondering this. Don't think the NE derby's on either. I'm sure they'll manage to fit in the Bolton game later.
I'm enjoying the Swedish Chef commentating on East17's link though
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Warnock in the book again.
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Ireland should come on for Clark.
Don't be silly!
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ht yet?
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Poor, from both sides, but they look more likely to score than we do. Problems.
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Shit, too close.
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Half time, we are lucky to be level, awful.
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A crap half. We need to change, and start by keeping possession.
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Why isnt this live on radio 5?
TalkShite have a few exclusive commentary's this season.
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Why isnt this live on radio 5?
I was wondering this. Don't think the NE derby's on either. I'm sure they'll manage to fit in the Bolton game later.
I'm enjoying the Swedish Chef commentating on East17's link though
It's live on talksport
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we have been out played for the last 25 minutes, if we are going to change it pick either sidwell or downing
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Sack Gerard Houllier bring back Kevin Mac! he do a far better job should of had a better chance he certainly wouldn't play 3 centre halfs again shitface and bring on pressure!!
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Wow - not one single shot on goal for an entire half of football - against Blues
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The manager is having to make do with the players he has unfortunately. Injuries and a lack of quality is hindering him. I don't think January will help him that much to be honest as there is little quality available, may can't come soon enough!!!
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What is going on here.
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Today is the best chance the Shite have had in a long time to beat us. Poorest Villa team I've seen in some time. Not Houlliers fault, that irish bloke that managed before. Who, despite the fact that everybody says how amazing he is as a manager is going to end up at Al-Hilal.....
That Irish bloke never lost a derby and won the last six on the trot including the 5-1. Show some fucking respect
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Get clark and Sidwell off for Bannan and Ireland
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this is dreadful.
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This is shocking, I'd bring Delfouneso on for Clark or Sidwell!
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Why isnt this live on radio 5?
I was wondering this. Don't think the NE derby's on either. I'm sure they'll manage to fit in the Bolton game later.
I'm enjoying the Swedish Chef commentating on East17's link though
It's live on talksport
Oh ok. I'll stop being paranoid. About football anyway.
There's one goal in this, can't see us getting it at the mo
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we need to do something our midfield are static
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They've absolutely bossed the midfield for the majority.....and we are being pushed further and further back as a result. We just can't get Young or Downing in the game...really need to start winning the seconds and keeping the ball....
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Why isnt this live on radio 5?
I was wondering this. Don't think the NE derby's on either. I'm sure they'll manage to fit in the Bolton game later.
I'm enjoying the Swedish Chef commentating on East17's link though
live on Talksport ...... 5live have got Bolton v Liverpool at 4 o'clock.
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Clarke had lots of space in first 15 min and was dictating lots of the play. they closed that down and we've been on the backfoot since.
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Today is the best chance the Shite have had in a long time to beat us. Poorest Villa team I've seen in some time. Not Houlliers fault, that irish bloke that managed before. Who, despite the fact that everybody says how amazing he is as a manager is going to end up at Al-Hilal.....
That Irish bloke never lost a derby and won the last six on the trot including the 5-1. Show some fucking respect
Like he did walking out 3 days before the season started? Stop talking like a cu**.
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Ireland should definitely be coming on, we need a spark and 3 players playing defensive midfield is unnecessary and inviting pressure.
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anyone got a decent english stream?
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Ireland should definitely be coming on, we need a spark and 3 players playing defensive midfield is unnecessary and inviting pressure.
i think you are right i am just worrie about irelands state of mind
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Afternoon. Been on the phone to my ISP for nigh on an hour as my phone, TV and internet was down. It was probably a better way of passing the time than the first half at VP by the sound of things.
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Afternoon. Been on the phone to my ISP for nigh on an hour as my phone, TV and internet was down. It was probably a better way of passing the time than the first half at VP by the sound of things.
whats his number ill give him a ring it might take my mind of things
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That Irish bloke never lost a derby and won the last six on the trot including the 5-1. Show some fucking respect
That Irish bloke fucked off five days before the season started, I'll show him just as much respect as he showed us if that's okay with you.
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Where's this top squad that O'Neill left behind I wonder, not out on the pitch today.
Houllier needs to get a grip, they look out of ideas, have no motivation and little desire to do more than is necessary.
Blues look the better side and that's a disgrace. Houllier knows all about Derby home ties, playing an untried kid in midfield is absolutely no answer to anything even with the injuries to several players as an excuse. Its the sort of crazy measure a manager looking relegation in the face not one looking to win games to climb back into midtable comes up with, especially in a home game its daft.
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anyone got a decent english stream?
Racist.
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We have got to get Downing off the right. Absolutely no understanding between Luke Young and himself. Countless times they have lost the ball between them. None of our midfield three want the ball and Heskey has been hopeless. yes I know he has little support but he has been caught stupidly offside on a few occasions and had a decent chance from Young's throughball. Stupid booking from Warnock before the break, Bham look decent down the right where Steven Carr has been excellent and Larsson when given space has a great delivery. Zigic is worse than useless though.
We need to think about changing things but have little options. Could maybe try Downing on the left of the three and replace Clark but no guarantee Ireland will improve things on the right either. McLeish has played it well imo, he knows without Gabby that his centre halves can push up to the half way line. Barry Ferguson is the one midfielder with a semblance of composure and has picked up anything loose.
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First thirty minutes we've been just slightly on top but the following 15, the Rags have had the best of it. The are very well organised and prepared to throw players forward when on the attack. We aren't and are sitting far too deep. It's as if we're scared of losing whilst they've come for the 3 points.
We need to be a little bit more adventurous. Downing needs to push up 15 yards, he's too far back to make use of the ball.
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Ha Ha - put a smile on my face for the first time in an hour!
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hi all, just managed to get online, been busy working.
Reallyyyyyyy sorry to ask but any streams? pretty please :)
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First thirty minutes we've been just slightly on top but the following 15, the Rags have had the best of it. The are very well organised and prepared to throw players forward when on the attack. We aren't and are sitting far too deep. It's as if we're scared of losing whilst they've come for the 3 points.
We need to be a little bit more adventurous. Downing needs to push up 15 yards, he's too far back to make use of the ball.i wish i was watching the game you are watching
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This performance is making me feel sick. I need a stiff rum.
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http://www.vipfast.net/ch1.html (http://www.vipfast.net/ch1.html)
In Dutch but the picture has been spot on all game.
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Right Villa pull your fucking fingers out, this is shit and unacceptable.
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this is pure shite were very defensive i mean were only playing The Shite theyve had a few good results of late but thats it were showing way 2 much respect this is our match on our turf come on Houllier get ireland on or del fonz we need to win this game ....he who dares Rodders !
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hi all, just managed to get online, been busy working.
Reallyyyyyyy sorry to ask but any streams? pretty please :)
http://www.vipfast.net/ch1.html can't find any english commentary though bud
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Please God it can only get better.......?
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Afternoon. Been on the phone to my ISP for nigh on an hour as my phone, TV and internet was down. It was probably a better way of passing the time than the first half at VP by the sound of things.
whats his number ill give him a ring it might take my mind of things
Unfortunately, the bastard got my internet going. And to make things worse, 'er indoors has decided to couch potato it and has watched The fucking Two Towers and is now at the spider bit in The Return of the fucking King. And she's got the Home Cinema on ear-bleed mode.
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Come on Villa!
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Get into these worthless dregs of society.
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Was that scum move in slow motion?
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Don't worry BE, we'll keep you updated.
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ooh close.
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Never! Referee!
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Ahhhhhhhrrrrgghhh!!!!!
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Fuck these disgusting bastards in the ear with a whale's cock.
That feels better now.
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Etc. etc.
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Today is the best chance the Shite have had in a long time to beat us. Poorest Villa team I've seen in some time. Not Houlliers fault, that irish bloke that managed before. Who, despite the fact that everybody says how amazing he is as a manager is going to end up at Al-Hilal.....
That Irish bloke never lost a derby and won the last six on the trot including the 5-1. Show some fucking respect
Heroes and villains rule 6 - slate MON at every opportunity and re-write history regarding our results. Never, ever say anything positive about him regardless of facts. His derby record was rubbish and our squad is performing a lot better without him.
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Come on Villa.
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Hahahahahah fucking class header by the supporter. Best bit of this game so far.....
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Started as finished the first half
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What was that bloke doing?
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Hahahahahah fucking class header by the supporter. Best bit of this game so far.....
Yeah and they've hoiked him out of the ground for his sins by the look of things.
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Let me get this right, he signed Sidwell as a replacement for Barry????????? Get Ireland and JC on please Mr Houllier.
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I just don't think Clark's role is at all needed.
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We need to go two up top (or Ireland off heskey) with young and downing wide
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Hahahahahah fucking class header by the supporter. Best bit of this game so far.....
Yeah and they've hoiked him out of the ground for his sins by the look of things.
hopefully they're printing up a shirt and bringing him on...
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Has anyone else's Dutch stream gone down.
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My stream's gone, anyone got one?
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yep
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Has anyone else's Dutch stream gone down.
Shite - mine down as well. So annoying....
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http://show-sports.com/channel2/
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Need a decent stream please.
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Has anyone else's Dutch stream gone down.
Yep but the FB Ad girl I've been given to look at on a 30 second loop is much more watchable. Apparently she wants to meet me. Nice.
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Try http://foxsports02.blogspot.com/2010/09/channel-2.html
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English commentary http://premier-games.net/premiersports2.php
Edit: stupid ads popping up in front of picture....
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A shot!
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bannan coming on
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Pitch is looking nice.
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Thanks
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channel 6816 anyone who has sop cast. perfect pic
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Pitch is looking nice.
Apart from the dog shit?
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Bannan on for Sidwell
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Come on Barry.
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Here comes Barry Banana.
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sidwell blows his chance yet again.
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WM have live coverage.
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Barry's chance to become a legend. Go on, lad, rip them a new slurry chute.
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http://www.azsportztv.net/ch1.html
terrible quality, like the game.
Bannan on for Sidwell
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http://www.show-sports.net/
english commentary
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Come on Villa for fucks sake.
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COME ON YOU LIONS!!!!!
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did downing just cross with his right foot there?
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Come on Villa, nail these lobotomised gas-sniffers.
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I feel sorry for Heskey, he has had no support.
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Get Ireland on to fuck.
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I have a horrible feeling that Kevin Phillips is going to come on and...........
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Slight improvement this half. At least we're making their full backs do some defending.
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Come on Villa, un-breath these fetid cesspoolers.
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Get Ireland on to fuck.
Eh?
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A Young has been below par today
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Shot count is awful!
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There is absolutely no composure in our team today. None.
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turgid stuff- i fear kev phillips coming on.
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A Young has been below par today
He keeps tA Young has been below par today
He hasn't got a lot of help. I'm a little perplexed by Houlliers selection however limited it may be???
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Shot count is awful!
If you imagine the pitch is a Subbuteo pitch we aren't getting in the zone where you can shoot.
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Come on Villa, let their gums boil in a surge of their own outrageous piss-bile.
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Ash has been shocking.
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Better we are getting on the ball.
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COME ON VILLA!
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Remember that lad we used to have on the wing who could cross a football?
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cameron jerome coming on for blues. replaces hleb.
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Come on Villa, force them to swallow their own feckless, spittle-sodden chins in bitter regret.
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fucking Dunne just got murdered by Jerome.
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Fucking hell can we get some players forward please.
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Come on Villa, have them cry their kidneys through their squinty, sticky little inbred eye slits.
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on top here, but don't look like scoring.
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come on VILLA!
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it's all going off.
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Come on Villa, sew up their filthy gruel-holes with their own whiskery ginger eye-lashes.
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Well done, Nige, introducing scumbag Gardner to your size ten.
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Looks like Carew's coming on.
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this is the 1st time this season ive felt really depressed watching us.
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Barry Fergurson: wanker.
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Bannan forced a save.
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good effort by bannan. all came from a collins hoof!
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Great, that's our new captain petulantly kicking out at Gardner and then gobbing off to Ferguson.
For fuck's sake let's not descend to their level eh.
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soft corner
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COME ON VILLA!
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carew on for reo-coker.
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Carew on for Reo, come on Villa.
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Clark and Bannan left to control the midfield? :O
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NRC off? That is a really soft midfield now. Big gamble
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Sidwell and Bannan left to control the midfield? :O
Not even Sidwell, but Clark. Sorry, didn't see the edit.
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HUGE gamble. Crikey! And Big Johns hardly on fire at mo is he!!
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SHIT!
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Clark got smashed by Foster, but should have scored.
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so close from clark
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That's a fucking penalty isn't it???
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Ouch!
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Penalty surely, he got the ball first and then got clattered. The other way and the keeper would have got the foul.
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Both the keeper's hands got the ball...just happened to be an eyeball.
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COME ON YOU VILLA BOYS!
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COME ON VILLA!!!
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bannan going up for a header with zigic...
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Bannan v Zigic in the air?!
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so close Ash.
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Ash hits the post
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Fucking fuck.
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FUCK
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5 more mins. Lovely
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Five minutes to drill these cat-baggers a new silage pipe.
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My feed has gone to shit, come on Villa boys!
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Come on Villa, do it for decency.
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COME ON BOYS.
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FT
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very poor game - maybe we went for 0-0.
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Complete shite but at least we didn't lose to the fuckers.
I'll take that if we can fuck 'em over in the cup.
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Predictable scrappy 0-0.
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The season goes from bad to even worserer......awful stuff. Goodnight, I'm off to play with myself.
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Disappointing overall, expected more but happy not to get less.
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Looks Sky were right to sack the game off - what a terrible match.
3 games and no goals. Roll on January when the rebuilding can commence.
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Atrocious. Houllier needs to sort this fucking shit out or he'll be out for fuck sake.
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At least we had a go second half. Could easily have won.
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very negative selection , hugely disappointing.
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Joining this late as just getting up in LA. Seen the team but confused by the formation. Did we have 5 at the back or was Collins pushed forward into midfield, please?
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useful point, could be handy, come the end of season
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Joining this late as just getting up in LA. Seen the team but confused by the formation. Did we have 5 at the back or was Collins pushed forward into midfield, please?
clark did a man mark job on hleb...
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Joining this late as just getting up in LA. Seen the team but confused by the formation. Did we have 5 at the back or was Collins pushed forward into midfield, please?
clark did a man mark job on hleb...
Oh dear. Thanks pablo!