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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Brigada1874 on October 23, 2010, 02:04:24 PM
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Brigada1874 have been doing a bit of work on producing a group banner and some flags over the last couple of weeks and we will be launching at the game against Burnley. If anyone going to the game has got a decent camera that they could take some snaps and videos with then it'd be great if you could get in touch with us.
A lot of hard graft goes into organising a group like this and we know we won't be a success overnight but we hope we can bring back some atmosphere to Villa Park over the coming years and Burnley game represents the first small steps toward achieving this.
Keep you eyes peeled.
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http://brigada1874ultras.proboards.com/index.cgi
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Where in the ground will this banner be on show?
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Where in the ground will this banner be on show?
Don't want to say where yet but it's big so will be seen plus numerous flags.
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Ok, if you could message me what your plans are, I sit on the front row of the Doug Ellis, right in the corner at the Holte end, if the banner is likely to be there I would get a great pic of it, and i'm happy to take my camera. If it is elsewhere then it probably isn't worth me bringing my camera.
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Ok, if you could message me what your plans are, I sit on the front row of the Doug Ellis, right in the corner at the Holte end, if the banner is likely to be there I would get a great pic of it, and i'm happy to take my camera. If it is elsewhere then it probably isn't worth me bringing my camera.
pm sent ;)
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Hope it goes well mate. Do you meet up in any particular boozers before or after the games? I love a good sing-song, me.
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Hope it goes well mate. Do you meet up in any particular boozers before or after the games? I love a good sing-song, me.
Join our website, address in first post and introduce yourself
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I would like to be a part of this if you dont mind please.
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I would like to be a part of this if you dont mind please.
http://brigada1874ultras.proboards.com/index.cgi
join the site and introduce yourself in the introduction section mate and we can take it from there!
please not we are not into violence and are a anti facist/racist group!
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I would like to be a part of this if you dont mind please.
http://brigada1874ultras.proboards.com/index.cgi
join the site and introduce yourself in the introduction section mate and we can take it from there!
please not we are not into violence and are a anti facist/racist group!
Can I assume that you have asked Mac for permission to advertise your board?
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Good luck with that lads i think anything adding atmosphere should be good! Hope people get some good pictures!
And Legion, as there forum is mainly about the ultra scene, not really blossiming in the Football department, i don't think its going to take over this forum anytime soon, so don't see the point in asking for permission.
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I do.
Do you mean Ultra as in Italy?
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So what is the point?
Do you mean ultra is in italy?
There are ultras all over the world, including England.
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The point of what?
No, the Ultra's as in Italy. The fanatical side.
Hooligans, perhaps?
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Maybe there are a few Ultras in Italy who would MINGLE with hooligans but would not be part of it. Anyway that is Italy, maybe you should look more to England if you want to compare theese Brigada1874 lads to anyone. Crystal Palace for example Homesdale Fanatics. Accrington Stanley - Stanley Ultras
Etc. Why dont you just give theese guys a chance?
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The point of what?
No, the Ultra's as in Italy. The fanatical side.
Hooligans, perhaps?
So to you the word Ultras only means Italian and hooligans? Did you get that out of the Sun?
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No. Perhaps you might like to explain and clarify?
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No. Perhaps you might like to explain and clarify?
Firstly there are Ultras group throughout the world, secondly most groups have nothing to do with violence. Although if you have read a red top over the last few days concerning the Liverpool fans in Italy you would think differently!
Look if you think we are that way inclined please come and have a pre-match drink with us im sure you'll see straight away we are only interested in adding noise and colour to Villa Park nothing more nothing less!
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No, I don't think that at all. I'm just interested as to your perspective on things. When are you next at VP? I sell at every home game and would be quite happy to chat.
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No, I don't think that at all. I'm just interested as to your perspective on things. When are you next at VP? I sell at every home game and would be quite happy to chat.
wednesday is our launch night, we can chat whenever, we're definitely not here to cause division we just wanna create atmosphere and colour
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Anyone in my opinion who wants to cause some noise and atmosphere on Wednesday is more than welcome. 23k and a shit atmosphere otherwise isn't really something to look forward to.
Good luck lads.
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Anyone in my opinion who wants to cause some noise and atmosphere on Wednesday is more than welcome. 23k and a shit atmosphere otherwise isn't really something to look forward to.
Good luck lads.
thanks :)
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Leeg's got two thousand square feet of claret & blue flag he might like to donate.
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Leeg's got two thousand square feet of claret & blue flag he might like to donate.
weve got hundreds of sq feet of claret and blue material, we just need
people to give us a chance!
Anychance of some cheap advertising space in your next fanzine for our badges?
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Brigada1874, I hope you get support.
If there is one thing we need at VP at the moment it's a 'bit of colour' - some atmosphere.
Get in there !!
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Accrington Stanley - Stanley Ultras
Who are they?
From that part of the world dont forget the Barnstoneworth Barmeys.
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Good luck to you.
What sort of numbers have you got involved?
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Good luck to you.
What sort of numbers have you got involved?
got about 20 going on Wednesday, but have over 150 members on website now yes a lot are Ultras from other groups from around the world but we are getting more interest
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Brigada, how do you plan on gaining more members and fans attending games with you then?
Which part of the ground will you be in against Burnley? And what's the plan for the Burnley game, will you be standing all game, flags, banners, surfers, scarves etc?
Which part of the ground will you be occupying on a regular basis? I know standing isn't permitted but obviously it happens and if you're wanting to create noise and colour etc then you'll need to be standing really, singing and waving flags doesn't really work whilst sitting does it!? I note Crystal Palace have an ultras section in the lower tier of their Holmsdale End and the club help out with banners and stuff and allow them to stand all game every game in their block.
Have you got any away trips planned and what have you got planned for away games? Will you all be buying tickets together and taking flags, surfers, banners etc? Will you be coming up with any new songs in your group?
Pm me with your answers if you want mate.
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We all know your going to Burnley and i know your sitting in block seats for this one, but where? How can anyone else get involved if they dont know where to go. Also will you bringing back the old classics as it says on your forum? Because im sure many would be happy to join in with them
Also, im now banned from the forum, care to pm me why?
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When you say Ultras from other groups around the world - do you mean as in ex-pat Villa fans, or supporters of other teams from around the world?
Also (for BC Villa) - When you say that Crystal Palace allow the fans to stand - is that in a standing area (ie Terracing) or are you saying that they are in fact breaking the law by allowing these supporters to stand? And if so, how do you know this?
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When you say Ultras from other groups around the world - do you mean as in ex-pat Villa fans, or supporters of other teams from around the world?
Also (for BC Villa) - When you say that Crystal Palace allow the fans to stand - is that in a standing area (ie Terracing) or are you saying that they are in fact breaking the law by allowing these supporters to stand? And if so, how do you know this?
It's not a terrace, it's a block in the lower tier of their stand behind the goal. They're called the 'Holmesdale Fanatics' and have flags, banners etc and spend every game bouncing up and down and singing for 90 minutes. It's accepted by their club that they will stand every game and the stewards leave them to it and never ask them to sit.
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It's accepted by their club that they will stand every game and the stewards leave them to it and never ask them to sit.
And is it accepted by the law?
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It's accepted by their club that they will stand every game and the stewards leave them to it and never ask them to sit.
And is it accepted by the law?
Bloodyhell, i didn't make the law i was just saying that the Palace ultras are left to stand by their club and by their stewards, i may be wrong but it happens at every ground in the country. Just like it's accepted that the Upper Holte and now the lower North will stand up, and the same that all of the Holte and all of the lower North will stand against Blues next week.
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Oh god can we please avoid this turning into another standing/sitting debate. These lads seem to be genuine lets give them a chance eh?
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Just joined the site 156 members now lol,hope this is a sucsess for you all,il have my camera ready im on the sky lounge balcony so may get some good pics,3-1 villa
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If you are going to be in charge of singing can you please use your powers to stop singing the disgraceful Paul McGrath 'on the piss' song and the "he used to be shite" song to Heskey ("he played for the shite" would be better). If you can do that I'll be impressed.
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When you say Ultras from other groups around the world - do you mean as in ex-pat Villa fans, or supporters of other teams from around the world?
There sems to be a lot of Celtic 'ultras' on there who are planning to visit, I hope they leave their sectrarian shite at home if they do come to VP.
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When you say Ultras from other groups around the world - do you mean as in ex-pat Villa fans, or supporters of other teams from around the world?
There sems to be a lot of Celtic 'ultras' on there who are planning to visit, I hope they leave their sectrarian shite at home if they do come to VP.
The Green Brigade lads will not be down donned in green and white and singing Celtic songs thats laughable to even consider that, they are joining us to give their support to the group not to promote their group or Celtic!
VillaSubmariner - Supporters of other clubs round the world!
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On the subject of cameras, what do the stewards allow us to take in? Just compact cameras or are bigger slr types allowed?
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The Green Brigade lads will not be down donned in green and white and singing Celtic songs thats laughable to even consider that, they are joining us to give their support to the group not to promote their group or Celtic
Good, glad to hear it.
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On the subject of cameras, what do the stewards allow us to take in? Just compact cameras or are bigger slr types allowed?
SLR should be fine.
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Thank you
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Well tonights the night and all the lads are excited! If anybody does get any pics could you please pm me on here thanks in advance!
UTV VIVA BRIGADA!
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Where abouts are you sitting/standing/singing?
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Will the pictures end up on here?
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Well, how did it go?
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I'm interested to know as well. It sounded pretty quiet whenever SSN covered us tonight.
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i was in the sky lounge with my camera ready, how big were the banners? A4 size?
i want to support you but it was insignificant to my eyes and ears.
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Sat in the Lower North. A few flags waved and a fairly large banner unfurled at H-T was what I noticed from the Upper Holte.
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There was a banner held up in the bottom of the North Stand at half time was that it ??
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Noticed em in the lower north but the banner only flashed up now and then.....didnt give us enough time to get the camera out
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Why 'Brigada', by the way?
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Didn't really work then?
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A4? Try over 30 foot. We of course couldn't wave for the whole game, if we did we would have people moaning they couldn't see. We done as much and as long as possible though. If you couldn't see us as players were coming out you need classes surely. And xbiggy, the banner is way too big for us to hold all game, we could only have it before the game (when players came out) and same half time. We was there for a while though. And yes it was Spangley.
Didn't really work? We sang all/most of the game, same we flying flags. Banner was out whenever possible. What didn't work?!
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Banner was good and I saw you waving the flags. I was sitting in the lower Holte
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Banner was good and..?
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What was the reaction like from people sat around you? Did you get people joining in with you?
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There was a few kids next to us who joined in, apart from that no one. A few lads behind us would sing a few songs, nothing much.
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Couldn't take any pics as I was in the Upper Trinity and bang in line with you. Fair play for what you're trying to do, saw your banner before KO and at HT. Hope you stick at it, also saw you had visit from the stewards and Police, i'm guessing to do with standing up?
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Yes mate, there was quite a few people in North Lower standing, we got targeted straight away.
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How about trying the Upper Holte? You might get more joining in.
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It's Villa, we should get people joining in everywhere, there shouldn't be a particular stand that sings etc. Should be everywhere, i know its not like this but.
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I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'll ask anyway.
Do you have any involvement with the club? The big Ultra groups have involvement with the club, and in some instances the players. Francesco Totti goes to weddings and funerals on Roma Ultras. And wasn't di Canio a Lazio Ultra?
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It's Villa, we should get people joining in everywhere, there shouldn't be a particular stand that sings etc. Should be everywhere, i know its not like this but.
You'll never get it everywhere. But in principle, I see your point. It could be doable in the Holte and North stands.
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I don't think Di Canio was a actual Ultra but i do belive he supported them and sat with them etc. Less said about that ****** the better. At the moment we are obviously small so no we haven't. This may come as we grow, we don't know. Just have to see.
And yes mate i know, should be like that though. Was you at the game mate?
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I don't think Di Canio was a actual Ultra but i do belive he supported them and sat with them etc. Less said about that c*** the better. At the moment we are obviously small so no we haven't. This may come as we grow, we don't know. Just have to see.
And yes mate i know, should be like that though. Was you at the game mate?
It's too far to travel from South East London on a weeknight. I'm turning into my father, aren't I?
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haha, didn't read your name fully. Fair enough mate.
Anyone get pics?
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A4? Try over 30 foot. We of course couldn't wave for the whole game, if we did we would have people moaning they couldn't see. We done as much and as long as possible though. If you couldn't see us as players were coming out you need classes surely. And xbiggy, the banner is way too big for us to hold all game, we could only have it before the game (when players came out) and same half time. We was there for a while though. And yes it was Spangley.
Didn't really work? We sang all/most of the game, same we flying flags. Banner was out whenever possible. What didn't work?!
Will the banner be there on Sunday? I'd help out if I could... except I'll be in the Upper North, could get something going up there maybe lol.
Anyways, nice to see you made the effort mate. Your next task is to get the sleepy heads in the upper Trinity to join in...
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Na mate, nothing will be done Sunday as we all sit in various places around stadium
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The banner looked good, but I really don't see the significance of the word 'Brigada'. The 3/4 flag wavers looked a bit 'schoolboy internationally' to be honest. Good luck though - admire what you're trying to do.
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did the flag wavers look similar to this? http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/340117294_185f49fc76.jpg
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i just dont get it, it was embarrasing to look from the Holte and see a few flags being waved about!!
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i just dont get it, it was embarrasing to look from the Holte and see a few flags being waved about!!
No it wasn't, what do you want them to do? Sit on their arses like 90% of the Holte End last night. FFS
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The only thing embarrasing is people complaining about other fans wanting to try and create an atmosphere and colour inside the ground!!!
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Can't knock them for trying to do something. Few comments i'd make though:
Should have been discussed with the club. Get them onside and it'll help.
Comments on your site about 'acab' just single you out and will make you even more of a target for them.
See if there is somewhere you can hang your banner permanently.
How many of you were in your group last night?
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About the 4 wavers looking like schoolboys, thats because they are you ******. So what? I'd much rather be a schoolboy with passion for his/her team then an old man who sits on his arse all day and may get exciting to clap. About us looking embarrassing, that's just laughable. I presume your one of them who moan when no one sings then moan when people try to do something at YOUR club. Get a grip ffs. Villa1- There was 18 of us.
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Anyway, ANY pictures?
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About the 4 wavers looking like schoolboys, thats because they are you c***. So what? I'd much rather be a schoolboy with passion for his/her team then an old man who sits on his arse all day and may get exciting to clap. About us looking embarrassing, that's just laughable. I presume your one of them who moan when no one sings then moan when people try to do something at YOUR club. Get a grip ffs. Villa1- There was 18 of us.
About the 4 wavers looking like schoolboys, thats because they are you c***. So what? I'd much rather be a schoolboy with passion for his/her team then an old man who sits on his arse all day and may get exciting to clap. About us looking embarrassing, that's just laughable. I presume your one of them who moan when no one sings then moan when people try to do something at YOUR club. Get a grip ffs. Villa1- There was 18 of us.
Hey, why don't you mail the General asking for the club's support in this - there is a General Krulak threadathon above.
Good luck in your endeavours, anything to improve the atmosphere at VP !
He may influence the club to support you guys.
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About the 4 wavers looking like schoolboys, thats because they are you c***. So what? I'd much rather be a schoolboy with passion for his/her team then an old man who sits on his arse all day and may get exciting to clap. About us looking embarrassing, that's just laughable. I presume your one of them who moan when no one sings then moan when people try to do something at YOUR club. Get a grip ffs. Villa1- There was 18 of us.
Bit harsh.
What we need is the club to play some Bob Marley -
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Was a bit harsh yes, just ennoying, children/kids/young men (as they were) can't have passion either?
And good video.
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About the 4 wavers looking like schoolboys, thats because they are you c***.
Cut out the personal abuse.
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Done, doesn't look like people got many/any pictures, we got a few before the game so they should be up soon.
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Well if that was the one in the North lower then I can tell you I could see it from the Holte but other than in my minds eye I dont have any pictures of it sorry
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Alright mate, no worries. If i remember some one was going to take a pic was a slz professorial camera or something a long them lines. Quick question, as the players came out, could you see us clearly?
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Okay, could someone who saw it at least draw us a picture?
Crayon will do.
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Yes you could be seen when the players came out - I had not read the thread before I went to the game so I saw it clearly enough to think I wonder what that is !
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Interesting that this is being tried at the Villa. My gut feeling is: good luck to you lads, the ground could do with a bit of a boost to the atmosphere.
I saw the Ultra movement go from almost nothing to being a major presence at virtually all grounds during my time in Germany between 1998 and 2005. As has been pointed out above, Ultra groups vary enormously, and yes some of them do have a large hooligan element or political links (on the left and the right). But in most cases they're all about creating atmosphere in the ground and a more organised form of support for the team, including banners, choreographies, constant singing, buses to away games, etc.
Naturally, it's a lot easier for ultras to get together in Germany because of the standing areas at almost all grounds. And yes, many of them have at least reasonable relations with the clubs themselves, and are able to arrange things like bringing in large banners or choreographies involving thousands of coloured sheets of paper.
A word of caution, though. Ultra groups tend to get most of their support from younger fans, many in their teens or early 20s - nothing wrong with that in itself. But older fans can start to get pissed off if they feel that ultras and their idea of what constitutes proper support are taking over. One of the most pertinent criticisms to be voiced in Germany is that ultras often carry on with their programme of songs and flag-waving regardless of what's happening on the pitch. Traditionally, events on the pitch are the key determinant of a lot of singing and atmosphere - but in ultra-dominated grounds, other fans who might otherwise start a song don't get a look-in, creating resentment.
Other Ultra-related paraphernalia that can aggravate people: smoke bombs, fireworks and "capos" who stand with a megaphone directing the singing and their back to the pitch. All of the above very unlikely to be an issue in England, though.
All the best, Brigada 1874, with getting behind the team. I'll be very interested to see how you get on.
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It's Villa, we should get people joining in everywhere, there shouldn't be a particular stand that sings etc. Should be everywhere, i know its not like this but.
Each of the stands needs their own songs so that they have an individual identity. The Holte already has plenty so may I suggest:
Trinity - Common People
Doug Ellis - Wake Me Up Before You Go Go
North Stand - Welcome to the Cheap Seats
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Good luck with what you're trying to do. I think everyone will appreciate it if you can really get things going...
Do you have a long term strategy? Surely the problem is that with season tickets etc it is hard to get the group together in one place. Do you have plans to arrange it so that you're all based in one location next season. I think to make it work - easily - you'll need the club's support in some capacity.
Again - Good luck with it all.
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Each of the stands needs their own songs so that they have an individual identity. The Holte already has plenty so may I suggest:
Trinity - Common People
Doug Ellis - Wake Me Up Before You Go Go
North Stand - Welcome to the Cheap Seats
Us Upper Trinityers were most perturbed when we saw the state of the rabble which the 10 quid tickets had admitted to our classy enclave last night.
There were even children there, FFS.
I thought we'd priced these types out of the good seats.
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Each of the stands needs their own songs so that they have an individual identity. The Holte already has plenty so may I suggest:
Trinity - Common People
Doug Ellis - Wake Me Up Before You Go Go
North Stand - Welcome to the Cheap Seats
Us Upper Trinityers were most perturbed when we saw the state of the rabble which the 10 quid tickets had admitted to our classy enclave last night.
There were even children there, FFS.
I thought we'd priced these types out of the good seats.
I had the Chav family behind me last night. One of the many young members of the Chav family decided part of the way through the second half that to periodically scream very loudly was a good idea. Mr and Mrs Chav found this highly amusing. I didn't.
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About the 4 wavers looking like schoolboys, thats because they are you c***. So what? I'd much rather be a schoolboy with passion for his/her team then an old man who sits on his arse all day and may get exciting to clap. About us looking embarrassing, that's just laughable. I presume your one of them who moan when no one sings then moan when people try to do something at YOUR club. Get a grip ffs. Villa1- There was 18 of us.
Was there any need for the personal comment made, I assume directed at me as I was the one that quoted it looked 'schoolboy International' like? It's amazing how you picked out the point I made that you didn't like and failed to ignore the comments I made wishing you luck and what is the meaning behind the word Brigada?
I'm not against what you're doing, I even contacted one of your other people about offering to take my camera and photograph the stuff for you all. If you're going to go around calling people a c*** because of what they observed from the other end of the stadium then you're hardly going to encourage people to join your cause are you?
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Just apologised for that mate. And will do again. No need for the ****** bit
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Also mate, im not recruiting, im not a member, i know im using we/us a lot because i would like to be apart of it. Again though, sorry.
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So, when's the next game you/them are planning on having a presence?
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Why not contact the club and maybe ask about the possibility of moving your season tickets together now, I'm sure that would be doable if you ask them nicely. Maybe even set up a meeting with them.
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I think it would be good for Brigada to have there own section, i would defently want to sit with them for one. Isn't there the 'genral' on theese Villa forums?
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no photos? i havent found one on any forum
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He has his own stickied thread in Heroes Discussion.
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I don't think they've got much yet.
See them at the front
(Took if from there forum)
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I see someones already asked Genral about Brigada, does he reply via pm or on the thread?
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He will reply on the thread but you could send a PM instead.
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Not my position to do it, was just wondering. Thankyou.
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Thanks for all the positve comments and even the constructive criticism! We do understand that people go to games for all different reasons, atmosphere and colour might not be what their after and we appreciate that and we don't want to interfere with their "match experience" but we do feel strongly about bringing both to Villa Park hopefully we can find a section in the ground that will allow us to do our thing without putting out others.
Finally we are on the lookout for those who could help us in the future with banners/flags and displays so anyone who can help be it design work or even just recommending cheap suppliers etc please don't hesitate to get in touch.
UTV!
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Thanks for all the positve comments and even the constructive criticism! We do understand that people go to games for all different reasons, atmosphere and colour might not be what their after and we appreciate that and we don't want to interfere with their "match experience" but we do feel strongly about bringing both to Villa Park hopefully we can find a section in the ground that will allow us to do our thing without putting out others.
Finally we are on the lookout for those who could help us in the future with banners/flags and displays so anyone who can help be it design work or even just recommending cheap suppliers etc please don't hesitate to get in touch.
UTV!
Keep it up brigada, some of us admire you for the attempts you're making but just try to keep people onside and please take the advice to contact the club and see what they can do to help, who's that bloke who's in charge of the supporters clubs he may be able to give a helping hand.
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Are you talking to the club?
Get the club onside and get your own little place in the Upper Holte or North Stand Lower and you could have something here. Failing that then you will be too dispersed or will be targeted by the stewards when those around you complain.
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Yeh I'm sure the club would move you all together now if you contacted the right people.
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Back of the North Stand upper or lower would be best I reckon, that way you could stand without pissing people off. Sat/stood with you all at the Burnley game. Good fun.
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Back of the North Stand upper or lower would be best I reckon, that way you could stand without pissing people off. Sat/stood with you all at the Burnley game. Good fun.
Glad to hear it! did u take your shoe off for villa? :D
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The whole idea of Ultras is to be seen and heard so the idea of sitting at the back of an upper tier is daft. Has got to be North Lower!
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The whole idea of Ultras is to be seen and heard so the idea of sitting at the back of an upper tier is daft. Has got to be North Lower!
Agree.
"Ultras Ultras give us a song"
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Yeh I'm sure the club would move you all together now if you contacted the right people.
Lets hope they dont give the current season ticket holders there a seconds thought either .
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I don't know what the reaction's been like but when I saw the Brigada banner come out on Wednesday I thought it was great.
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No pictures yet??
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Bit harsh.
What we need is the club to play some Bob Marley -
You know when the London press go on about English fans being the best in the world?
Well, that's an absolute load of b*ll*cks, isn't it?
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Am I missing something, whats so great about that clip?
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Bit harsh.
What we need is the club to play some Bob Marley -
You know when the London press go on about English fans being the best in the world?
Well, that's an absolute load of b*ll*cks, isn't it?
Forget the dramatic/it's the end of the world music we have as our tunnel music, Bob Marley should just be played. Now that would be awesome.
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Agree, Bob Marley being played before the game and at half time, wicked stuff, truly wicked.
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Am I missing something, whats so great about that clip?
About 25,000 Ajax fans singing Bob Marley.
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Bit harsh.
What we need is the club to play some Bob Marley -
You know when the London press go on about English fans being the best in the world?
Well, that's an absolute load of b*ll*cks, isn't it?
I know they engaged in some Blues style bog smashing, but I thought the Ajax fans were the best I've seen at Villa Park for ages (wasn't at either Rapid games, though).
They seemed to sing this for ages:
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Am I missing something, whats so great about that clip?
About 25,000 Ajax fans singing Bob Marley.
I loved that - I have been visiting Holland for over 30 years and I can confirm the Dutch know how to have a good time - we always spend new year there - its a blast
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Bit harsh.
What we need is the club to play some Bob Marley -
You know when the London press go on about English fans being the best in the world?
Well, that's an absolute load of b*ll*cks, isn't it?
I know they engaged in some Blues style bog smashing, but I thought the Ajax fans were the best I've seen at Villa Park for ages (wasn't at either Rapid games, though).
They seemed to sing this for ages:
I love that. I remember it going on for 10/15 minutes non-stop... it was ingrained in my brain for such a long time and felt like joining in, even when I got back home I couldn't stop singing it haha. That Ajax game was great.
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Remember the good old days when a Villa chant would go on for ages. Going quieter at times before building in noise again but never quite stopping? Almost like thunder rolling in and out, if that makes sense.
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God I miss the old real Holte. It was so bloody funny. 'On his horse" etc etc. Whole game was a sing song.
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That Ajax 3 little birds song is brilliant.
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Remember the good old days when a Villa chant would go on for ages. Going quieter at times before building in noise again but never quite stopping? Almost like thunder rolling in and out, if that makes sense.
Viiiillllllllaaaaaaaa, villllllllllaaaaaaaa, villllllllllllaaaaa.
One of the best ones I heard was Sheff united away in 90/91 season went on for what seemed like the whole second half.
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You guys got anything planned for the Fulham game?
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You guys got anything planned for the Fulham game?
Or Small Heath?
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
The spelling wasn't to clever ;D
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
The spelling wasn't to clever ;D
Sweet, sweet irony.
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
The spelling wasn't to clever ;D
So is that no condemnation from Brigada 1874 then?
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
The spelling wasn't to clever ;D
So is that no condemnation from Brigada 1874 then?
The group consists of different people with different views some may condemn it others might not.
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
The spelling wasn't to clever ;D
So is that no condemnation from Brigada 1874 then?
They're not apologists for what celtic fans do or don't do. I know one or two Celtic fans and I'm not fussed if they don't officially condemn anything.
On another note I heard 2 or 3 new songs on Saturday that seemed to be designed to breathe new life into old songs sung. Although in saying that the Nigel Spink, rolls the ball to Platty...got an airing. As did the Bells are Ringing. (The latter good, the former? meh.)
There wasthe Deoeche Mode - 'Just Can't Get Enough' with the instrumental bit being the hook for us all to join in on. Also to the tune of Macarena was a surprisingly great Barry Bannan song - 'Who needs Barry when you get Barry Bannan? (x3) Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Barry Bannan. And shoes off if you love Villa is surely going to catch on everywhere from Craven Cottage to St Geordie Park to George Bush conferences in Iraq.
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
The spelling wasn't to clever ;D
So is that no condemnation from Brigada 1874 then?
The group consists of different people with different views some may condemn it others might not.
Don't you think that is morally blank though? There has to be an occasion where you draw the line, or is every subject fair game in the 'Ultra' world as long as its on a banner?
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Oh no. We've stolen that shoes off nonsense from the Barcodes?
We'll be standing shirtless in sub zero temperatures next.
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
The spelling wasn't to clever ;D
So is that no condemnation from Brigada 1874 then?
They're not apologists for what celtic fans do or don't do. I know one or two Celtic fans and I'm not fussed if they don't officially condemn anything.
On another note I heard 2 or 3 new songs on Saturday that seemed to be designed to breathe new life into old songs sung. Although in saying that the Nigel Spink, rolls the ball to Platty...got an airing. As did the Bells are Ringing. (The latter good, the former? meh.)
There wasthe Deoeche Mode - 'Just Can't Get Enough' with the instrumental bit being the hook for us all to join in on. Also to the tune of Macarena was a surprisingly great Barry Bannan song - 'Who needs Barry when you get Barry Bannan? (x3) Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Barry Bannan. And shoes off if you love Villa is surely going to catch on everywhere from Craven Cottage to St Geordie Park to George Bush conferences in Iraq.
I didn't ask them to apologise for the Celtic fans, or take responsibility for it. I just asked what their thoughts were. Which I think is a fair question given the links between the 2 groups.
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Oh no. We've stolen that shoes off nonsense from the Barcodes?
We'll be standing shirtless in sub zero temperatures next.
Definitely didnt get the shoes off song from the Geordies and it's hardly nosense it's just a bit off fun!
Can't talk for the others but my shirt will be staying on in all temperatures ;D
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Definitely didnt get the shoes off song from the Geordies and it's hardly nosense it's just a bit off fun!
first I heard this was 2 or 3 years ago when we played Reading away
When did it start?
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
The spelling wasn't to clever ;D
So is that no condemnation from Brigada 1874 then?
They're not apologists for what celtic fans do or don't do. I know one or two Celtic fans and I'm not fussed if they don't officially condemn anything.
On another note I heard 2 or 3 new songs on Saturday that seemed to be designed to breathe new life into old songs sung. Although in saying that the Nigel Spink, rolls the ball to Platty...got an airing. As did the Bells are Ringing. (The latter good, the former? meh.)
There wasthe Deoeche Mode - 'Just Can't Get Enough' with the instrumental bit being the hook for us all to join in on. Also to the tune of Macarena was a surprisingly great Barry Bannan song - 'Who needs Barry when you get Barry Bannan? (x3) Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Barry Bannan. And shoes off if you love Villa is surely going to catch on everywhere from Craven Cottage to St Geordie Park to George Bush conferences in Iraq.
I didn't ask them to apologise for the Celtic fans, or take responsibility for it. I just asked what their thoughts were. Which I think is a fair question given the links between the 2 groups.
What their thoughts were? Why? He's not likely to say that he couldn't care less or that he thought it was a great banner and sentiments alike, is he? But as I said they are not apologists for anyone, nor are they an established group with deep seated roots and public- provoking opinions across the football fraternity.
They're just a group of fans. What are you after? A chance to hang them?
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Oh no. We've stolen that shoes off nonsense from the Barcodes?
We'll be standing shirtless in sub zero temperatures next.
there were a few guys up the back who were shirtless and one bloke who got so carried away with taking his shoes off he took his trousers off as well! He was rightly ridiculed by all and sundry with a rousing Chorus of "what the f**king hell is that"
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
The spelling wasn't to clever ;D
So is that no condemnation from Brigada 1874 then?
They're not apologists for what celtic fans do or don't do. I know one or two Celtic fans and I'm not fussed if they don't officially condemn anything.
On another note I heard 2 or 3 new songs on Saturday that seemed to be designed to breathe new life into old songs sung. Although in saying that the Nigel Spink, rolls the ball to Platty...got an airing. As did the Bells are Ringing. (The latter good, the former? meh.)
There wasthe Deoeche Mode - 'Just Can't Get Enough' with the instrumental bit being the hook for us all to join in on. Also to the tune of Macarena was a surprisingly great Barry Bannan song - 'Who needs Barry when you get Barry Bannan? (x3) Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Barry Bannan. And shoes off if you love Villa is surely going to catch on everywhere from Craven Cottage to St Geordie Park to George Bush conferences in Iraq.
I didn't ask them to apologise for the Celtic fans, or take responsibility for it. I just asked what their thoughts were. Which I think is a fair question given the links between the 2 groups.
What their thoughts were? Why? He's not likely to say that he couldn't care less or that he thought it was a great banner and sentiments alike, is he? But as I said they are not apologists for anyone, nor are they an established group with deep seated roots and public- provoking opinions across the football fraternity.
They're just a group of fans. What are you after? A chance to hang them?
If you look at this thread, I've actually been fully behind them since I knew about them.
The Poppy Banners were done by the Green Brigade. The Brigada 1874 site has numerous Green Brigade/Celtic fans, has at least one link to a forum/fanzine that appears pro Celtic/Irish/Republican, and strong links appear to have been formed between the Green Brigade & Brigada 1874.
As such, I wanted to know the views of Brigada 1874 so as I could make my own judgement on whether to support continue supporting them and standing up for them, based on answers directly from the group.
Quite why you have a problem with that i'm not sure. Perhaps you think I should just give them my support blindly, just because they're a group of Villa fans?
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No, didn't see the full link between Green Brigade and this lot. As such we shouldn't have any links with them at all if they spout this shite and Brigada should ask their views on it and why we should be linked with likewise.
If we had have seen this from a Bordsley Muslim FC team then you can bet the papers, and lazy racist/prejudiced/ignorant types would have been jumping all over it.
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No, didn't see the full link between Green Brigade and this lot. As such we shouldn't have any links with them at all if they spout this shite and Brigada should ask their views on it and why we should be linked with likewise.
If we had have seen this from a Bordsley Muslim FC team then you can bet the papers, and lazy racist/prejudiced/ignorant types would have been jumping all over it.
Have they changed their name again? No doubt anothert ruse to claim they've got more fans than us...
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The Brigada 1874 site has numerous Green Brigade/Celtic fans, has at least one link to a forum/fanzine that appears pro Celtic/Irish/Republican, and strong links appear to have been formed between the Green Brigade & Brigada 1874.
A forum/fanzine that seems to be named after a slogan used liberally by those giants of sport , the IRA. I think our young uns, who seem to just be after making the atmosphere a little brighter, might want to choose their friends more carefully.
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As the Green Brigade seem to be all over the Brigada 1874 site and links seem forged between you, what are your thoughts on the poppy banners they had?
The spelling wasn't to clever ;D
So is that no condemnation from Brigada 1874 then?
The group consists of different people with different views some may condemn it others might not.
But surely to be taken seriously as a group you'd need a unanimous opinion from the group? What's the point in coming out with a statement that says 'Some agree with the Green Brigade, some don't'?
You never see a big organization come out and say 'Well, generally we don't agree with us, but a few of our members might'
If you don't want to be associated with stuff like that then surely it's better to come out with unified statements from the beginning. You spoken about being anti racist/anti facist but you're just kind of sitting on the fence here. If people knew where you stood you may get more support.
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But surely to be taken seriously as a group you'd need a unanimous opinion from the group?
They are a group of lads who sat in the lower north last Wednesday week. I very much doubt they have positions on all issues. They couldn't decide whether to sit down or to stand up let alone take a unified position on way more contentious issues.
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I cant believe the hand wringing going on in this thread,Brigada 1874 pontificate about being anti-fascist yet are strongly in cahoots with the green brigade at celtic who displayed that disgusting banner about poppies/our troops on saturday.
It seems to me that whoever is behind this Brigada group need educating about anti-fascism in as much as it was ours and there forefathers who fought against fascism,tyranny and opression from 1939-1945.
If it wasn't for there sacrifices fascism wouldnt have been defeated and the way of life we have now would have been much different.
Brigada 1874 has no real identity or actually know what it believes in in my opinion and for that reason:
I'm out...
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I cant believe the hand wringing going on in this thread,Brigada 1874 pontificate about being anti-fascist yet are strongly in cahoots with the green brigade at celtic who displayed that disgusting banner about poppies/our troops on saturday.
It seems to me that whoever is behind this Brigada group need educating about anti-fascism in as much as it was ours and there forefathers who fought against fascism,tyranny and opression from 1939-1945.
If it wasn't for there sacrifices fascism wouldnt have been defeated and the way of life we have now would have been much different.
Brigada 1874 has no real identity or actually know what it believes in in my opinion and for that reason:
I'm out...
They're a bunch of kids who want to sing songs, wave flags and take their shoes off cos they love Villa. I don't think they need to be any more issue driven than that.
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Ive done a bit of digging into who there membership consists of,they are far from a bunch of kids looning around.
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Ive done a bit of digging into who there membership consists of,they are far from a bunch of kids looning around.
I'd genuinely be interested to know more.
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G ood to see we've all agreed that it's 'disgusting' to oppose illegal and useless wars.
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G ood to see we've all agreed that it's 'disgusting' to oppose illegal and useless wars.
I don't recall anyone saying that.
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Neither do I. Could you please clarify your post?
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G ood to see we've all agreed that it's 'disgusting' to oppose illegal and useless wars.
No one has said that, a few people have said the opposite in fact. It's disgusting to denigrate the entire Poppy Appeal and it's meaning because of the last governments decision to go into two foreign wars. We all know the real context behind these banners though and it's no surprise that a section of Celtic's support are doing this.
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Ive done a bit of digging into who there membership consists of,they are far from a bunch of kids looning around.
:D
Please do expand on that for me and the forum as a whole!
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Not heard anything from you lot since, any idea if you'll be doing anything in coming weeks?
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Anyone know of anywhere locally that make lettering stencils? 40cm letters
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To clarify what I posted earlier, I'll recall a story my partner's sister-in-law, who is originally from N Ireland. She told me how she felt that had her family stayed there, under internment, she would have feared for her brothers, who were, she said, becoming influenced by the Provos, as after Bloody Sunday, mass demonstrations were regarded as a form of mass suicide.
British soldiers underpinned this system, that flagrantly discriminated against Catholics.
I get totally torn at this time of year. Wilfred Owen is, to me, one of the greatest inspirations of my life. His dedication to his fellow man should never be forgotten. This guy was a true hero, as I'm sure anyone who has read his life history would agree.
Comparing his life with the dirty, sordid background to the wars of the last seven years gives you plenty of food for thought.
Needless to say, the ruling class are very eager to put wars for the oil and gas companies into the same category as wars like Owen's or wars for survival like WWII.
Poppy day allows them to do this.
May these criminals who send young lads off to be killed and maimed be brought to justice soon.
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well there isnt much oil or gas in Afghanistan, maybe rememberance sunday is just an opportunity to show respect and compassion for the people and thier familiies that have been stricken by war,
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Needless to say, the ruling class are very eager to put wars for the oil and gas companies into the same category as wars like Owen's or wars for survival like WWII.
All wars are about resources, political leanings or money [or all]
Including the aforementioned WWI and its sequal