Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: eastie on October 16, 2010, 09:51:04 PM
-
Mirror website carrying world exclusive that Rooney will be sold in January after series of huge rows with sir alex- his contract ends in 18 months and although the mirror are often wrong there seems to be substance to this story.
Cross sir alex and the only way to go is out the door as many have found out in the past.
-
Unless he fancies a move to B6 I'm not interested.
He is woefully out of form anyway.
-
Good.
As much of a twat as he clearly is he's probably just about the only world class player they have left.
Odd scenario when you think of the calibre of player they could probably attract, but not so odd when you think of the monetary constraints under the Glazers. Look at their latest deals post Ronaldo: Obertan, Hernandez, Bebe, Smalling et.c.
Even if they get a tidy sum for selling Shrek there's no guarantee Fergiescum will be allowed to plow it back into sourcing an adequate replacement.
How long he'd put up with United playing second fiddle and not even being competitive in the transfer market remains to be seen, but with one eye on his legacy he might just decide to call it a day sooner rather than later.
-
I think Fergie is finally starting to lose his grip. The present team isnt one of his very best and surely hes now getting too old to build yet another ? If Rooney does follow Ronaldho out the door, they could hit a trophyless period in much the same way as Arsenal have ever since Henry and Viera went. What with all Liverpools problems too perhaps the old power bases are finally being broken up. Thats good of course, as long as it doesnt finish up with Chelski and Man City taking it all over.
Hopefully the next few years could be as good a chance as there has been for quite a time for those of us trying to break in to actually do it.
-
?% Villa?
-
Eamonn are you one of those people who ring up as well about tv programmes complaining rather than just switching to another channel?
-
He should move to London. Better class of hooker.
-
East19...Perhaps Eamonn is saying it shouldnt be preceded 0%Villa on the basis that theres a 1% chance of him coming to us ??
-
I hope he go's to spain and then watch manure become a average side then.
-
and with those kind of debts mounting up...
-
It's in The Mirror. That's all that needs to be said.
-
He should move to London. Better class of hooker.
Harlequins, London Irish or Wasps ? :)
-
More to it than that clampy , his contract ends in 18 month and he and fergie have fallen out big time according to several different sources, anything that weakens man utd is fine by me.
Beckham, keane, ince, stam , van nistleroy, he's just another to take on sir alex and be shown the door if true and I suspect it is judging by comments made recently and the fact he's not been in the team.
-
When you consider Beckham was given the big heave-ho for having the temerity to believe himself to be the best player at the club, I would expect Rooney to be on a very final warning about his life style. This thread is entirely 0% any other English club, he'll be sent overseas, Fergie will not have Rooney turning back up and embarrassing him.
-
Would be interesting if Rooney refused to move abroad though- with his contract running down would united have to sell him to city or Chelsea or risk him walking away on a free a year later- now that would be embarrassing.
-
I think he is very overrated.
Had a good season last season but I could score in the man ure team
Abroad would do nicely for me
-
Eamonn are you one of those people who ring up as well about tv programmes complaining rather than just switching to another channel?
Not at all. I could ignore the thread but it's a Villa site, I can hear about ''Wazza''s spiral into decline everywhere else - the % Villa thing is a good idea imo.
-
When you consider Beckham was given the big heave-ho for having the temerity to believe himself to be the best player at the club, I would expect Rooney to be on a very final warning about his life style. This thread is entirely 0% any other English club, he'll be sent overseas, Fergie will not have Rooney turning back up and embarrassing him.
It would have to be Australia or the USA then.
Shrek in Spain or Italy would be too funny for words.
-
He should move to London. Better class of hooker.
Harlequins, London Irish or Wasps ? :)
Too ugly, even for Shrek.
-
I think he is very overrated.
Had a good season last season but I could score in the man ure team
Abroad would do nicely for me
I'm sorry I totally disagree, Rooney genuinely is world class, but just like Torres is totally out of sorts.
I think England would benefit from Rooney playing abroad, he would flourish in Spain in my opinion.
-
He should move to London. Better class of hooker.
Harlequins, London Irish or Wasps ? :)
Too ugly, even for Shrek.
I thought you said London not Middlesex, Reading and Wycombe.
-
Guardian reporting this too now:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/17/wayne-rooney-manchester-united
Wayne Rooney has thrown Manchester United's season into a state of turmoil after informing the club he has no plans to sign another contract and intends to find new employers. Rooney's decision is based on serious differences with Sir Alex Ferguson, the Guardian understands, and will be a devastating blow to the supporters who have come to regard him as a talismanic figure in this troubled era under Malcolm Glazer's ownership.
United may have no option now but to sell the England striker, possibly in the January transfer window, rather than risk his transfer valuation dramatically lowering now that he is only 20 months away from becoming a free agent.
Rooney has always said he has no desire to play abroad and would like to remain in Manchester for the rest of his career, but his mindset has changed and his availability will inevitably attract interest from major forces such as Real Madrid and Barcelona. Manchester City may feel they have an outside chance of capitalising on what has gone wrong for him at Old Trafford, although their chances are undermined by the fact they already have a huge task ahead of them bringing down their wages to prevent Uefa banning them from European competitions under financial fair-play rules.
The full details are not yet clear but the underlying fact is that Rooney now feels that his working relationship with Ferguson has suffered potentially irreparable damage in the fall-out from tabloid allegations about the striker's private life, coinciding with a dramatic loss of form and a growing sense that the most successful manager in the business has taken a hard-line approach with his player.
Rooney has lost his place in the team, with Ferguson citing a supposed ankle injury, and the 24-year-old felt sufficiently emboldened last week to contradict his manager's version of events and make it clear he has not missed a single training session – and was, in essence, dropped for other reasons.
What has not been established is whether these events have coincided with a disagreement about the amount of money he expected to earn in a new contract. United had been willing to make him the highest earner at the club, with a weekly salary of £150,000, and the club's chief executive, David Gill, had stated several times earlier in the year that the matter would be resolved as soon as Rooney was back from the World Cup.
That now appears to have backfired on Gill, with the message already conveyed to senior figures at Old Trafford that Rooney is now counting down his days at the club. There remains a suspicion it might be a part of the negotiating process, but the Guardian has been informed that, for now at least, Rooney's mind is made up and that he and his family are already contemplating where next to take his career.
If that remains the case, it threatens to be an even more devastating blow to the club than Cristiano Ronaldo's £80m transfer to Real Madrid last year given that it was widely known the Portuguese would eventually move to the Bernabéu. Rooney has always given the opposite impression, immersing himself in the fabric of the club, and now appears to be on the brink of being one of the few players to leave against their wishes. Ferguson has moved on some great footballers, including Ruud van Nistelrooy and David Beckham, but always prides himself on players not being sold unless he says so; in this case it seems clear that the decision was made by Rooney first.
With United desperately trying to keep the matter in-house, Ferguson's views on the subject are not clear, other than he is known to be alarmed and angry about the headlines that Rooney has attracted because of his alleged relationship with a prostitute, Jennifer Thompson and mostly his faltering performances on the pitch. Some United fans will be angry that Rooney seems to have portrayed himself as the victim when it could be argued that he has brought these troubles on himself, but a rift has clearly developed between player and manager.
Rooney has been in the worst form of his professional life for the last seven months, without a goal in open play since the first leg of the Champions League quarter-final against Bayern Munich in March. Most worryingly, he is showing few signs of emerging from his current slump. Nonetheless, he remains a hero to the United support and was regarded as the player who would help to ensure continuity and success once Ferguson, plus the likes of Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes, had retired.
-
They just mentioned it on MOTD2 as well. Who would buy him though, mancs will want a high price but Shrek hasn't exactly justified paying a high transfer fee over the past 6 months or so.
-
They just mentioned it on MOTD2 as well. Who would buy him though, mancs will want a high price but Shrek hasn't exactly justified paying a high transfer fee over the past 6 months or so.
They'd still get £50m for him quite comfortably. There are a lot of crazy, rich people out there.
-
They just mentioned it on MOTD2 as well. Who would buy him though,
Man City
-
He won't go to Man. City.
Chelsea? They need a replacement for Anelka and Drogba sooner or later.
-
They just mentioned it on MOTD2 as well. Who would buy him though, mancs will want a high price but Shrek hasn't exactly justified paying a high transfer fee over the past 6 months or so.
They'd still get £50m for him quite comfortably. There are a lot of crazy, rich people out there.
Barcelona, Madrid and Citeh spring to mind as possibilities to pay it, I can't think of who else would/could fork that out. I can't see Barcelona signing him, so that leaves Madrid and Citeh. Am I missing any other potential, and realistic, suitors for him? Chelsea as a potential outsider I suppose.
-
They just mentioned it on MOTD2 as well. Who would buy him though, mancs will want a high price but Shrek hasn't exactly justified paying a high transfer fee over the past 6 months or so.
They'd still get £50m for him quite comfortably. There are a lot of crazy, rich people out there.
Barcelona, Madrid and Citeh spring to mind as possibilities to pay it, I can't think of who else would/could fork that out. I can't see Barcelona signing him, so that leaves Madrid and Citeh. Am I missing any other potential, and realistic, suitors for him? Chelsea as a potential outsider I suppose.
I could easily see him at Real Madrid in a swap + £££ for Benzema.
Whether you would play him instead of Higuain is another question though.
-
I can't believe anyone at Man U, no matter how much they want the money, would be stupid enough to sell Rooney to Man City.
Also, I don't think even Rooney is capable of being stupid enough to actually go there.
-
Also, I don't think even Rooney is capable of being stupid enough to actually go there.
I think it would be very difficult to underestimate the stupidity of Wayne Rooney.
He's one of the very few players who I think could quite happily skip across to Man City for £300,000 per week wages and be kissing their badge in front of the Stretford End within a couple of months of moving.
-
I can't believe anyone at Man U, no matter how much they want the money, would be stupid enough to sell Rooney to Man City.
Ferguson would cut his own nose off to spite his face. And once he feels a player has got too big for his boots he is totally without sentiment.
-
The only way he stays in England is if they are dumb enough to let his contract run out. If he is off it's Real or Barca, no-one else... You can, and probably will hold me to that =P
-
I can't believe anyone at Man U, no matter how much they want the money, would be stupid enough to sell Rooney to Man City.
Also, I don't think even Rooney is capable of being stupid enough to actually go there.
Rooney is definitely stupid enough. After all, he's probably the most high profile player in the country, and yet keeps shagging hookers without seemingly thinking about the fact they will then sell their story and fuck up his life. Or learning from the fact that they do indeed, sell their stories.
-
I can't believe anyone at Man U, no matter how much they want the money, would be stupid enough to sell Rooney to Man City.
Ferguson would cut his own nose off to spite his face. And once he feels a player has got too big for his boots he is totally without sentiment.
True, but sell Rooney to Man City?
-
I can't believe anyone at Man U, no matter how much they want the money, would be stupid enough to sell Rooney to Man City.
Ferguson would cut his own nose off to spite his face. And once he feels a player has got too big for his boots he is totally without sentiment.
True, but sell Rooney to Man City?
Given their money situation, if Citeh offer enough, will the choice actually be his to make?
-
I can't believe anyone at Man U, no matter how much they want the money, would be stupid enough to sell Rooney to Man City.
Ferguson would cut his own nose off to spite his face. And once he feels a player has got too big for his boots he is totally without sentiment.
i agree with you, Ferguson knows that the team is far important than a player, as soon as the focus of the squad evolves around a player that is becoming disruptive its time to say goodbye,Rooney is off the rails, he is playing crap and holding out on a new contract, he knows that he can sell now ie january and get the best price based on the law of diminishing returns,
-
I can't believe anyone at Man U, no matter how much they want the money, would be stupid enough to sell Rooney to Man City.
Ferguson would cut his own nose off to spite his face. And once he feels a player has got too big for his boots he is totally without sentiment.
True, but sell Rooney to Man City?
think about it, if citeh were stupid enough to pay say £50mil and Rooney disrupts what semblence of team spirit they have built then job done, Ferguson couldnt find away to play Roonie and Tevez, i cant think that Mancini would not have worked this one out
-
I can't believe anyone at Man U, no matter how much they want the money, would be stupid enough to sell Rooney to Man City.
Ferguson would cut his own nose off to spite his face. And once he feels a player has got too big for his boots he is totally without sentiment.
True, but sell Rooney to Man City?
Given their money situation, if Citeh offer enough, will the choice actually be his to make?
I would be surprised if the Glazers would antagonise the fans further.
As for Rooney making the decision. As mentioned previously, he can't even be loyal to his wife so money would be his only motive.
-
They just mentioned it on MOTD2 as well. Who would buy him though, mancs will want a high price but Shrek hasn't exactly justified paying a high transfer fee over the past 6 months or so.
They'd still get £50m for him quite comfortably. There are a lot of crazy, rich people out there.
Barcelona, Madrid and Citeh spring to mind as possibilities to pay it, I can't think of who else would/could fork that out. I can't see Barcelona signing him, so that leaves Madrid and Citeh. Am I missing any other potential, and realistic, suitors for him? Chelsea as a potential outsider I suppose.
Can't see Barca as Messi and Villa are in a different league to him.
-
I hear Rooney doesn't want to go abroad so therefore it's Chelsea or city. City have more money , he wouldn't have to change home and it would piss off sir alex more- in the end utd can't do fuck all about it as at the end of next season he could go to city for nothing, it's sell him this season for cash or lose him for nothing a yr later!
-
He will not go abroad - how could he his first language is not English so could he fuck as like learn another one
Just spoke to a typical United fan - i said i will laugh my cock off at their demise
They do not have the pulling power they once had
Even the media are starting to stick the knife in - great to see
Man City are the new darlings
Fergie will alienate himself from the fans and hopefully walk
They have no where near the financial clout they once had
The Glaziers will see the colour of someones money and there is not a single player they would not hestitate to sell
COuld not happen to a nicer club - i for one will put the bunting out the day it all comes crumbling down
-
I think Fergie will dig his heels in as he's never sold a star player to a PL rival - remember Heinz going to Liverpool?
My guess is Jose will take him to Madrid.
-
For those who don't think he'll move to Citeh or Chelski -
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs269.snc3/23284_125881880770893_3587_n.jpg)
-
I think Fergie will dig his heels in as he's never sold a star player to a PL rival - remember Heinz going to Liverpool?
My guess is Jose will take him to Madrid.
Err Tevez?
-
I think Fergie will dig his heels in as he's never sold a star player to a PL rival - remember Heinz going to Liverpool?
My guess is Jose will take him to Madrid.
Err Tevez?
He was only on loan with them so he couldn't stop him going as he wasn't their player.
-
I think Fergie will dig his heels in as he's never sold a star player to a PL rival - remember Heinz going to Liverpool?
My guess is Jose will take him to Madrid.
Err Tevez?
Tevez was only on loan to ManU and they couldn't do anything to stop him leaving apart from offer the stupid wages he wanted to stay.
-
I think Fergie will dig his heels in as he's never sold a star player to a PL rival - remember Heinz going to Liverpool?
Djemba-Djemba to Villa.
There, that's blown your theory out of the water.
-
I think Fergie will dig his heels in as he's never sold a star player to a PL rival - remember Heinz going to Liverpool?
Djemba-Djemba to Villa.
There, that's blown your theory out of the water.
Veron to Chelsea. I can see a pattern appearing here.
-
one of the main things in this Rooney saga, is his contract only had 18 months left to run,
as others have said at the end of this season, he either stays, leaves for the best offer they can get or risk losing him for nothing the season after,
Man Utd are not in a great negotiating position,
its not really in Fergies hands to do what he wants.
if Man City offer massive money at the end of the season or even in jan, they will be sorely tempted, or risk losing him for no fee,
and i cant see the Glazers doing that
-
apparently ferguson is doing a press conference in half an hour and has said in advance that he won't answer any questions about Wayne Rooney.
There's always some poor sap who has been told to ask anyway. It is excruciating. Especially when it's you
-
Maybe. Yet if someone like Madrid also offer big money they can hold out to try and force him where they want.
I think if it does happen it will be the Glaziers decision and the beginning of the end for Fergie.
-
IF he goes anywhere, it won't be Chelsea as they're looking to lower their wage bill - they've let the likes of Ballack, Joe Cole, Carvalho, Deco, etc go and not brought in big salary players to replace them.
-
How can fergie did his heels in? Rooneys contract is running out , if he wants to go to city as many are saying then fergie either sells him to city or loses him to city for nothing- if Rooney wants to go to city then fergie can't do fuck all about it!
-
I hope Shrek fucks off out the country personally.
-
How can fergie did his heels in? Rooneys contract is running out , if he wants to go to city as many are saying then fergie either sells him to city or loses him to city for nothing- if Rooney wants to go to city then fergie can't do fuck all about it!
Same thing with Heinz who wanted to go to Liverpool, but he said no and would only let him go abroad.
Slightly different scenario given the money Rooney will demand and the Glaziers, but we'll see what happens.
-
is it just me, or is it a little convenient that there is this little "spat" over nothing, when man utds debts are rising and it looks like the only way to stem the flow temporarily, is with another huge player sale?
probably the cynic in me, so best to ignore... just throwing it out there into lala land...
-
Reports are neither he nor colleen would consider moving abroad for both personal and business reasons.it will be city - and the utd empire is crumbling yippee!
-
At last, someone mentions Coleen....she has him by the nuts, he'll go wherever she says.Sunny Spain or the shops of Chelsea. Like another post said, anything that weakens manure is fine by me.
-
Rooney would never survive abroad, unless, say, Inter Milan were prepared to build a Liverpool-themed CenterParcs on the site of Appiano Gentile
-
The difference john m is heinze wasn't British-Rooney is a Lancashire lad and by all accounts would prefer to stay in that area for many reasons - going to city would be the perfect revenge on sir alex and he'd be staying in same home, keeping his family settled and on more money too - as well as joining probably a better team , it could be the end of sir alex and utds empire may come crashing down with him.
-
All looks like the work of an agent looking to manipulate contract negotiations to me.
-
apparently ferguson is doing a press conference in half an hour and has said in advance that he won't answer any questions about Wayne Rooney.
There's always some poor sap who has been told to ask anyway. It is excruciating. Especially when it's you
The guys a meglomaniac. Welcome to planet United.
-
All looks like the work of an agent looking to manipulate contract negotiations to me.
An uncredited source from Red Cafe (http://www.redcafe.net/f6/would-sir-alex-sell-wayne-rooney-311118/index22.html)
Wayne Rooney signs his own death warrant
Wayne Rooney has more vindictiveness off the pitch than people think.
This might surprise people.
When Wayne Rooney instructed his camp to brief the press last night of his intention to leave, he knew that he was signing his own death warrant at Manchester United. The club that he has fallen out of love with. It was calculated, measured and cold.
I received the call at 7:00pm. I was given various quotes, told firmly that they were all 'on the record' and left in no doubt that the information had to go out today. I have a reasonable relationship with Rooney's people, which prompted me to ask 'is this an exclusive?'. 'Of course not', I was told in no uncertain terms. The modus operandi was to create a media frenzy. I was one of a long line of people fed the information.
The most shocking thing for me, personally, was Rooney's willingness to throw Alex Ferguson - the man he has previously called a father figure - under the bus so easily. Without any thought. Much of the information given to me was scathing about Ferguson - and he IS prepared to run his contract down.
Rooney's grievance? His manager's perceived lack of support. The same manager that refused to crucify his player in public, despite the bloodlust calling for it in the national press. The same manager that, rather than simply dropping his underperforming player to the bench, gave him an excuse by way of an ankle injury to rest both his head and body - an excuse that Rooney angrily, petulantly threw back in his face in a very public manner.
Of course, ask any Everton supporter and Rooney has form for this sort of behaviour.
Wayne Rooney has more vindictiveness off the pitch than people think.
-
Rooney to Real Madrid, with Lassana Diarra and Benzema going the other way as part of the deal.
-
No self respecting Spanish club will touch him. Only 2 clubs in England can afford him and he won't go to Eastlands.
Chelsea it is then.
-
The difference john m is heinze wasn't British-Rooney is a Lancashire lad and by all accounts would prefer to stay in that area for many reasons - going to city would be the perfect revenge on sir alex and he'd be staying in same home, keeping his family settled and on more money too - as well as joining probably a better team , it could be the end of sir alex and utds empire may come crashing down with him.
All of those are reasons for Rooney to want to go there and not for Fergie to agree to the deal. However, the financial position there does weaken his position, so we'll have to wait and see!
-
All looks like the work of an agent looking to manipulate contract negotiations to me.
An uncredited source from Red Cafe (http://www.redcafe.net/f6/would-sir-alex-sell-wayne-rooney-311118/index22.html)
Wayne Rooney signs his own death warrant
Wayne Rooney has more vindictiveness off the pitch than people think.
This might surprise people.
When Wayne Rooney instructed his camp to brief the press last night of his intention to leave, he knew that he was signing his own death warrant at Manchester United. The club that he has fallen out of love with. It was calculated, measured and cold.
I received the call at 7:00pm. I was given various quotes, told firmly that they were all 'on the record' and left in no doubt that the information had to go out today. I have a reasonable relationship with Rooney's people, which prompted me to ask 'is this an exclusive?'. 'Of course not', I was told in no uncertain terms. The modus operandi was to create a media frenzy. I was one of a long line of people fed the information.
The most shocking thing for me, personally, was Rooney's willingness to throw Alex Ferguson - the man he has previously called a father figure - under the bus so easily. Without any thought. Much of the information given to me was scathing about Ferguson - and he IS prepared to run his contract down.
Rooney's grievance? His manager's perceived lack of support. The same manager that refused to crucify his player in public, despite the bloodlust calling for it in the national press. The same manager that, rather than simply dropping his underperforming player to the bench, gave him an excuse by way of an ankle injury to rest both his head and body - an excuse that Rooney angrily, petulantly threw back in his face in a very public manner.
Of course, ask any Everton supporter and Rooney has form for this sort of behaviour.
Wayne Rooney has more vindictiveness off the pitch than people think.
My god i think i am getting a stiffy - i fucking hate them with such a passion - nothing would make my season more than to see them start to fall apart.
Even if the get the Glaziers to sell there is no way that they would even get their money back never mind a profit
-
So Ferguson is allowed to brief against Rooney and nobody bats an eyelid. Rooney has a go back and he's `thrown Fergie under the bus'.
Nice
-
As much as I loathe this new Man Citeh, i'd probably give myself a hernia laughing if he walked out on them to go there.
-
John m how can fergie stop Rooney going to man city if he wants to go there? They either take the money from city this season or he goes there at the end of next season for nothing!
Fergie can not decide where Rooney goes- Rooney will decide that and has has been stated he's prepared to run his contract out and leave for nothing if necessary.he left everton for man utd andake no mistake if as widely reported he does not want to leave the north west then he would be happy to rub fergies nose in it and join city.
Fergie can not stop him going there - he will be free to go where he wants for nothing- I think it'd will sell him to city as they will realise that if they don't they won't get a penny
The utd dynasty is almost over and about time too!
-
If they are selling him while under contract then yes they can, by simply not accepting the City offer, should one come in. I do think there will be overseas interest, so if City and say AC Milan bid, then they can accept AC's bid and reject City's.
It then becomes a matter of brinksmanship if Fergie is threatening him with rotting in the reserves for a year. Does Rooney wait it out and go on a Bosman or does he have concern for what basically not playing for a year will do to his career and sign for AC Milan?
In the past Fergie won these sort of standoffs due to him having final say at the richest club in the world. But they aren't that anymore. I think he'll try it and we'll see a long drawn out affair, but Fergie is stubborn enough to not blink first. Question is atre the Glaziers?
-
Whoever does end up with him it will be for a fair bit less than £50 million. To command that sort of fee you need to be playing exceptionally well. Rooney isn't even playing average.
A very nice mess all round is this.
-
Rooney signs his own death warrant? United fans talk absolute trash. This is the beginning of the end of Fergie and United. He's getting old - making some baffling decisions as of late and clearly has fell out with his biggest and last real superstar.
-
Rooneys sources already have quoted him as bring prepared to run down his contract - he will only go where he wants to go and utd aren't in a position where they can let him walk away free- I think city will get him in the summer as it appears he wants to stay in that area, fergie won't want a disruptive influence hanging around the place and will want him gone .
-
apparently ferguson is doing a press conference in half an hour and has said in advance that he won't answer any questions about Wayne Rooney.
There's always some poor sap who has been told to ask anyway. It is excruciating. Especially when it's you
Go on ask, I'm hoping he will stop talking to every TV channel going. As an aside. Do the Beeb bother sending anyone to these or do they just send a Work Experience person with a tape recorder.
-
Rooneys sources already have quoted him as bring prepared to run down his contract - he will only go where he wants to go and utd aren't in a position where they can let him walk away free- I think city will get him in the summer as it appears he wants to stay in that area, fergie won't want a disruptive influence hanging around the place and will want him gone .
Rooneys sources say that but I'm sure all the people endorising him will not be happy if he is sitting in the reserves for a year. It will cost him alot and after a year, will someone put him on the sort of money that he can claw back the losses. Rooney also looks like one of the players like Dunne that if he is out for some time will balloon up and lose fitness and shape.
-
This is all good stuff. Hate United and hate players with 0% loyalty. Let's hope he goes to Shitty for 70 million and on 500K a week. That would weaken Utd and cause mutiny in Shitty ranks... piss off SAF and Utd fans ... fantastic...fantastic
-
Rooneys sources say that but I'm sure all the people endorising him will not be happy if he is sitting in the reserves for a year.
This is NOT going to happen. United Board and shareholders would not let their major asset dwindle away. Despite what SAF may want to do he will be sold if he does not sign a new contract in January. Utd are NOT cash rich and Glazers want to re-coup money.
-
Rooneys sources say that but I'm sure all the people endorising him will not be happy if he is sitting in the reserves for a year.
This is NOT going to happen. United Board and shareholders would not let their major asset dwindle away. Despite what SAF may want to do he will be sold if he does not sign a new contract in January. Utd are NOT cash rich and Glazers want to re-coup money.
I know it isn't going to happen but I was pointing out that he might be saying it but it would only be a bluff because he would lose just as much in the long run if he did.
-
Man city for me... Manure owners wont be bothered where he goes as long as they get money before he goes for free.. Sky Blue Manure will offer stupid wages for Shrek and shrek will take it....
-
' a year rotting in the reserves' can anyone remember the last time a top quality player spent a year 'rotting' because of a contract issue ?
i'm not saying there isnt one i just cant think of one,
-
Straight swap for Carew?
-
Straight swap for Carew?
Would get my vote....
-
apparently ferguson is doing a press conference in half an hour and has said in advance that he won't answer any questions about Wayne Rooney.
There's always some poor sap who has been told to ask anyway. It is excruciating. Especially when it's you
Go on ask, I'm hoping he will stop talking to every TV channel going. As an aside. Do the Beeb bother sending anyone to these or do they just send a Work Experience person with a tape recorder.
Off topic, but since it's been brought up, I just wish the BBC would refuse to interview Phelan or whoever United deign to put up as Fergie's mouthpiece. The pressure exerted by the companies who hand over to United big wodges of cash for the privilege of being on the backing boards against which the interviewee stands, would soon see Fergie's anti-Beeb stance crumble.
-
They should do a documentary exposing Phelan as a mediocre, ex-Albion clogger who somehow managed to gain the same number of England caps as Brian Little. If they keep pissing all of the Man U staff off, eventually the tea lady will have to do the interviews, which might be more fun.
-
Off topic, but since it's been brought up, I just wish the BBC would refuse to interview Phelan or whoever United deign to put up as Fergie's mouthpiece. The pressure exerted by the companies who hand over to United big wodges of cash for the privilege of being on the backing boards against which the interviewee stands, would soon see Fergie's anti-Beeb stance crumble.
I wish they didn't as well. But they would have to not interview either manager. And IIRC Fergie was going to be fined every time he refused to talk to the Beeb this year if the PL are actually enforcing their rules as was mentioned pre-season.
-
It's getting pretty boring all this Rooney this, Rooney that talk ......
I don't think anyone really gives a shit other than ManUre fans, do they ?
-
I don't mind the story at the moment but will get bored of it soon. At least it's not a Villa player. The Barry/Milner sagas seemed to go on for decades.
-
The rumour now is that Rooney will buy himself out of his last season, which is feesable as he would get more than it would cost from a signing on fee.
-
The difference john m is heinze wasn't British-Rooney is a Lancashire lad and by all accounts would prefer to stay in that area for many reasons - going to city would be the perfect revenge on sir alex and he'd be staying in same home, keeping his family settled and on more money too - as well as joining probably a better team , it could be the end of sir alex and utds empire may come crashing down with him.
E17 - I love how you always look on the bright side!!
-
I cant pretend to be unhappy at seeing manure in turmoil but neither can I say say I would take pleasure in seeing him join citeh who, in my opinion, have no class whatsoever.
-
The rumour now is that Rooney will buy himself out of his last season, which is feesable as he would get more than it would cost from a signing on fee.
I read that too. That would be superb! Can Utd afford to lose £45m just like that?
-
The rumour now is that Rooney will buy himself out of his last season, which is feesable as he would get more than it would cost from a signing on fee.
I read that too. That would be superb! Can Utd afford to lose £45m just like that?
I thought that rule was only applicable if he went abroad?
-
There's an article in the Independent. Click Here (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/rooney-could-quit-united-for-only-1635m-2110324.html)
Says he can leave for 1 years wages (£5 mil) plus a small amount of compensation.
Thanks to cdvillafan for the short links tip.
-
Rooney joining City would put him quite firmly in the C**t Club. Ronaldo may have left for Real Madrid and undoubted riches, but he at the very least was following a dream (everyone in Iberia grows up wanting to play for Real or Barca, Spanish or Portuguese). Rooney would quite literally be going for the money, proving him to be a classless bastard.
-
Surely Rooney has done enough already to prove he's a classless bastard?
-
Surely Rooney has done enough already to prove he's a classless bastard?
He's done nearly everything, true, but moving across a city for the money would be the clincher, the "no way back from this" moment.
-
I heard a snippet of a Roy Keane interview on the way in to work this morning, where he said Shrek should do whatever was right for him. His argument was that players are treated pieces of meat, however well paid, and clubs have no loyalty to them once they are of no further use. Fergie has been quite merciless in showing players the door once he has no further use for them, plus I'm sure it's a quite dictatorial regime he runs, including their private lives and international careers.
Point being that maybe Rooney is fed up of him and wants out. That I could understand, so wouldn't necessarily criticise him for it, but where he then goes may show his character more.
-
If Rooney's fee was based on his performces since April they'd be lucky to get £10k for him.
-
Point being that maybe Rooney is fed up of him and wants out. That I could understand, so wouldn't necessarily criticise him for it,
Well, he's probably fed up because he got caught shagging tarts while his missus was up the duff which affected his state of mind which affected his game which meant he was dropped which meant he had a fall out with his manager. And there's usually only one result when a player falls out with Fergie
He brought it all on himself
-
Ferguson has just told a press conference that Rooneys agent has intimated that he wants to leave. Remember those words?
-
Okay, so he doesnt use those exact words but it's close enough.
Could he turn out to be as good as Hou's inspired Gary McAllister type signing when he was Liverpool boss...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9104392.stm
-
This is fantastic.
My colleague has just said, and I quote, "If any other English club sign Rooney I'm going to be fucking vexed!"
Please let him go to any English club ... Even Citeh. I think it'd be fan-fucking-tastic-ally-hilarious!
-
Fergie also said he had a meeting with Rooney and Rooney told him he wants to leave the club, fergie looks low and devastated in his press conference- not the fergie we know !
He also said Rooney will be out of the team toMorrow with an ankle injury- is this the empire of sir alex beginning to crumple?
Rooney apparently telling close friends he'd be very open to a move to man city!
-
Please let him go to any English club ... Even Citeh.
They could make some sort of poster saying "Welcome to Manchester" featuring Rooney in a City shirt.
-
I would take him.
-
Beeb reporting that he was carried off in training this morning.
-
Talk going around on some City boards in the summer that Rooney wanted to go there because he felt United had lost ambition.
-
Who gives a monkeys anyway?
-
Ha ha utds fans bombarding sky with e mails saying what a disgrace and traitor Rooney is - didn't they realise that the way he left everton- fickle game football!
-
After what seems like a lifetime of waiting, the tables are turned on the most unpalatable of football clubs and their manager.
How many other clubs, just like ours have had players heads turned towards Old Trafford and from that moment the die was cast? Loosing your best players is hard and for most clubs, somewhat inevitable, but as the old adage has it, what goes around comes around and I have absolutley no sympathy.
As regards class, Rooney's pathetic excuses for leaving Goodison (later to have proved untrue), his behaviour towards the fans of the club he proports to follow and his disgracefull reaction when playing for England this summer prove that he is a pretty risible individual.
But then, despite all his achievements, so is Ferguson. A bitter, spitefull bully with all the grace of a five year old child when loosing pass the parcel. They suit each other quite well.
And to top it off, a moaning fan bellyaching about Rooney on the radio.
Fuck you, fuck your classless football club and fuck your manager. You deserve everything thats coming to you.
-
If he leaves, does that make Man Utd a selling club, or had they already become that when they sold Ronaldo?
-
I hope Manchester sinks into a big hole in the ground and takes that granny shagging troll with it.
I'm sick of hearing about him and both clubs.
-
Some suggestions that the greedy monkey wanted £180k a week !?
Their rich neighbours will probably pay that without batting an eyelid
Fergie looked shell-shocked doing the news conference that was supposed
to be with regard to tomorrow's Champions League match .........
he has known since mid-August
My Brummie Manc mate (who likes watching our Youth team) doesn't reckon
it will cause many problems at Theatre of Dreams - I think he is way off the mark
and expect (hope) the Mans go into meltdown !!
-
After what seems like a lifetime of waiting, the tables are turned on the most unpalatable of football clubs and their manager.
How many other clubs, just like ours have had players heads turned towards Old Trafford and from that moment the die was cast? Loosing your best players is hard and for most clubs, somewhat inevitable, but as the old adage has it, what goes around comes around and I have absolutley no sympathy.
As regards class, Rooney's pathetic excuses for leaving Goodison (later to have proved untrue), his behaviour towards the fans of the club he proports to follow and his disgracefull reaction when playing for England this summer prove that he is a pretty risible individual.
But then, despite all his achievements, so is Ferguson. A bitter, spitefull bully with all the grace of a five year old child when loosing pass the parcel. They suit each other quite well.
And to top it off, a moaning fan bellyaching about Rooney on the radio.
Fuck you, fuck your classless football club and fuck your manager. You deserve everything thats coming to you.
My sentiments entirely.
This whole episode could only get better if, as he undoubtedly he will, joins Man City on £200K a week and brings his current form with him.
As for Utd, Giggs and Scholes on their last legs, Ferdinand, beyond peaked and always seeming to be injured. Van der Saar needing to be replaced...it's all looking to be something of a mess when you look at their debts owners and the fans with replica shirts with yellow and green scarves.
Ain't it great.
-
After what seems like a lifetime of waiting, the tables are turned on the most unpalatable of football clubs and their manager.
How many other clubs, just like ours have had players heads turned towards Old Trafford and from that moment the die was cast? Loosing your best players is hard and for most clubs, somewhat inevitable, but as the old adage has it, what goes around comes around and I have absolutley no sympathy.
As regards class, Rooney's pathetic excuses for leaving Goodison (later to have proved untrue), his behaviour towards the fans of the club he proports to follow and his disgracefull reaction when playing for England this summer prove that he is a pretty risible individual.
But then, despite all his achievements, so is Ferguson. A bitter, spitefull bully with all the grace of a five year old child when loosing pass the parcel. They suit each other quite well.
And to top it off, a moaning fan bellyaching about Rooney on the radio.
Fuck you, fuck your classless football club and fuck your manager. You deserve everything thats coming to you.
could not of put it any better myself
UTV
The Doc
-
How deep are your pockets, Randy? ;-)
-
What's most annoying is that the usual schadenfreude that I should feel at Manu getting messed about is tempered because I currently dislike Man City far more and they're the likely beneficiaries.
-
What's most annoying is that the usual schadenfreude that I should feel at Manu getting messed about is tempered because I currently dislike Man City far more and they're the likely beneficiaries.
Although I see what you mean, I'm perfectly capable of focusing on their misery and putting the other lot to the back of my mind!
-
Spot on nev- ain't it fun to see utds wheels falling off at long last !
Another so called big 4 club in crisis and more chance for us to take advantage of their decline and get above them.
-
I wonder what the price would be for them to finish outside of the top 4? Early days though it is, they're 4th now anyway and this won't help.
-
After what seems like a lifetime of waiting, the tables are turned on the most unpalatable of football clubs and their manager.
How many other clubs, just like ours have had players heads turned towards Old Trafford and from that moment the die was cast? Loosing your best players is hard and for most clubs, somewhat inevitable, but as the old adage has it, what goes around comes around and I have absolutley no sympathy.
As regards class, Rooney's pathetic excuses for leaving Goodison (later to have proved untrue), his behaviour towards the fans of the club he proports to follow and his disgracefull reaction when playing for England this summer prove that he is a pretty risible individual.
But then, despite all his achievements, so is Ferguson. A bitter, spitefull bully with all the grace of a five year old child when loosing pass the parcel. They suit each other quite well.
And to top it off, a moaning fan bellyaching about Rooney on the radio.
Fuck you, fuck your classless football club and fuck your manager. You deserve everything thats coming to you.
My sentiments entirely.
This whole episode could only get better if, as he undoubtedly he will, joins Man City on £200K a week and brings his current form with him.
As for Utd, Giggs and Scholes on their last legs, Ferdinand, beyond peaked and always seeming to be injured. Van der Saar needing to be replaced...it's all looking to be something of a mess when you look at their debts owners and the fans with replica shirts with yellow and green scarves.
Ain't it great.
I agree with both of the above wholeheartedly.
I really really hope that it goes even more tits up at there and Liverpool and they both drop into obscurity. I will piss myself laughing whilst it happens.
I can even live with Man City winning everything instead just as it would piss off the United fans.
-
Just had a Brummie glory hunter on the radio..."We this, we that".I hope like the other glory hunting bastards they are imploding.
Could'nt happen to a bigger bunch of pricks.
Just had a row with an Irish Lplop fan who told me that we are not as big as i think we are, i offered to bet him £20 that we finish above them...he would'nt have it.Wankers every last one of em.
-
The latest news is that Man City have made Rooney an offer and he's interested. They said they'll give him 50 grans a week.
-
Fergie's statement to the press was a pièce de résistance. Whilst there's a lot a dislike about the bloke, he certainly knows how to play the media like a fiddle. Whenever or wherever Rooney goes next, there will only now be one villain as far as the media and, by extension, Man Utd fans are concerned.
I love the time line in this episode. Apparently contract talks started before the World Cup. Presumably Rooney knew during the World Cup that when he got back to England his representatives would be telling United he was off. He then has the temerity to mouth off to the TV camera about the loyalty of England supporters...
-
The latest news is that Man City have made Rooney an offer and he's interested. They said they'll give him 50 grans a week.
It's a cracker!
-
Been waiting for this moment for a long time.
-
Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8071616/Wayne-Rooney-joins-illustrious-team-united-by-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-ticking-off.html)
Wayne Rooney joins illustrious team united by Sir Alex Ferguson ticking off
Jim Leighton, Jaap Stam, Paul McGrath, Norman Whiteside, Gabriel Heinze, David Beckham, Paul Ince, Roy Keane, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Mark Hughes, Carlos Tévez: it would make quite a team if you could put together those who, over his quarter century in charge at Manchester United, have been snubbed, cast off and let go by Sir Alex Ferguson.
By Jim White
Published: 7:30AM BST 19 Oct 2010
But what an addition to the ranks of Out-take United would it be were Wayne Rooney, the latest and perhaps the greatest former favourite to feel the wrath of Fergie, as is rumoured, imminently to be dispatched from the inner circle.
As Patrick Barclay points out in his new biography of the Manchester United. manager, Football Bloody Hell, Ferguson is, above all things, a gambler. He takes chances. He willingly makes speculative plunges into the unknown.
In his professional life, as opposed to at the racetrack, he engages in risk not for its own, adrenalin-fuelled sake, but for this reason: to procure improvement. Nowhere more so than in his attitude to the big names in his team. While other managers are fearful of tackling grander personalities, he acts early, with an often breathtaking ruthlessness; his purpose always to advance the cause.
The first to feel the icy chill of Ferguson's cold shoulder were McGrath and Whiteside, soon after he arrived in Manchester. The core of his predecessor Ron Atkinson's team, they were loved by the fans, their combination of muscularity and skill an on-pitch demonstration of the supporters' image of their club.
Ferguson, however, recognised that their prodigious thirst was compromising performance – both their own and that of the team – and, to much alarm on the terraces, he sold them both.
Next came Leighton, removed after his Edwin van der Sar-like flapping in the 1990 FA Cup final almost cost Ferguson his first United silverware. That was a big gamble – dismissing the keeper between final and replay, especially since there was no obviously better replacement. But it worked, Les Sealey came in and the trophy dam burst.
Since then, the rebuilding of every team has been hastened by the forced removal of an apparently pivotal part of the previous side. Ince and Hughes went together with Andrei Kanchelskis in 1995, speeding the emergence of the next generation; Stam in 2001 allegedly for the crime of writing an autobiography (and those who read it can only concur with the manager's critique).
Thereafter, almost once a year someone unexpected, someone seemingly vital, has gone: Beckham (2003), Keane (2005), Van Nistelrooy (2006), Heinze (2007), Tévez (2009). Of the big name departures over the years only Cristiano Ronaldo (2009) went without the manager's boot print tattooed on his backside.
Until then, it was Ferguson who had always booked the outward journey. The reasons for the sackings may be different – form, age, celebrity, in Keane's case an intolerance of team-mates that bordered on insurrection – but the essence is the same: they were challenging the singularity of the enterprise. The manager's mantra has been constant as he applies his scalpel: no one man is bigger than the collective. Except, of course, if that man is Alex Ferguson.
And this is partly the point. Each departure sends a message to those who remain: any divergence from the manager's path, no matter the elevation of the dissident, will not be tolerated.
When he takes a punt and dispatches a player he generally gets it right; only in a couple of cases has his study of the form book been proven inaccurate. McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
It is perhaps only Tévez, his bustling industry sorely missed and woefully not replaced at Old Trafford, who has, by his subsequent form, successfully hoisted two fingers at his former manager.
Now it is Rooney in his manager's out tray. It is the Liverpudlian's error to have combined growing celebrity and a reckless lifestyle with abject form. Separately they may have been tolerated. Together they poisoned his relationship with the boss.
Yet were he really to shed Rooney, removing the fulcrum from a diminishing team would constitute Ferguson's biggest gamble of them all.
The consequences of getting it wrong are too appalling for most United fans to contemplate. Because without Rooney – or at least the Rooney of last season – what is there left to support? Apart from someone else's debt that is.
-
I was reading that Times article today and agreed with most of it except for this horse-shit
McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
-
I was reading that Times article today and agreed with most of it except for this horse-shit
McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
The journo who wrote that is fucking clueless.
-
I was reading that Times article today and agreed with most of it except for this horse-shit
McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
Absolutely laughable.
-
I was reading that Times article today and agreed with most of it except for this horse-shit
McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
The journo who wrote that is fucking clueless.
If you piled up all of the horseshit in the world, it still wouldn’t be comparable with that absolute load of bollocks. This one of the few occassions when you can quite categorically say that his opinion is wrong. As wrong as wrong could be.
What a fucking moron.
Who wrote that shower?
-
Hmm, it does appear the wheels are coming off. Only a shame that they are going to be replaced by an even more obscene and easy to despise replacement. Wonder how many of those Man Utd fans around the country will stay with a non-winning version?
-
how wrong can you be
-
I heard somewhere that Man City have to reduce their wage bill to fit in with UEFA regulations on competition? That might rule them out from buying him.
I can't imagine him going abroad as he would have to keep travelling back and forth thousands of miles to see his kid assuming she gets main custody.
-
I was reading that Times article today and agreed with most of it except for this horse-shit
McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
By 'five', I assume he means 'seven' and by 'better players' I assume he means 'players not fit to lace his boots'.
Dickhead.
-
I was reading that Times article today and agreed with most of it except for this horse-shit
McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
By 'five', I assume he means 'seven' and by 'better players' I assume he means 'players not fit to lace his boots'.
Dickhead.
THIS IS THE STORY OF THE DAY.
Forget shrek
how can a sports journalist be so ill informed. Bruce and Pallister may well have been very good defenders, but God was so much better than anyone else for a generation
-
Just watched the press conference with SAF and I have to say, all other feelings aside, I almost feel sorry for him on this one. Rooney seems to be acting like the wanker we all know he is and has shafted Ferguson big style. If I was a genuine United fan, my piss would be boiling.
As it is, I'll sit back and see how it unfolds.
-
I heard somewhere that Man City have to reduce their wage bill to fit in with UEFA regulations on competition? That might rule them out from buying him.
I can't imagine him going abroad as he would have to keep travelling back and forth thousands of miles to see his kid assuming she gets main custody.
I don't know the man. But I can't see that being too high on his list of priorities.
-
I heard somewhere that Man City have to reduce their wage bill to fit in with UEFA regulations on competition? That might rule them out from buying him.
I can't imagine him going abroad as he would have to keep travelling back and forth thousands of miles to see his kid assuming she gets main custody.
They will fook off fat arse Barry for a start..
-
The latest news is that Man City have made Rooney an offer and he's interested. They said they'll give him 50 grans a week.
I thought it was 200. Still, fair does. Given the government's cut-backs, at least he's helping out Manchester's pensioners.
-
First Ronaldo, then Tevez now Rooney....I would start to laugh and like many others welcome a decline in manures fortunes. Wether he stays....go's to whoever, the unfortunate fact is that manure are still gong to be a club that can attract world class talent and have a vast global scouting network.
I am glad Liverpool are struggling, Arsenal have won nowt for 5 years....the future looks blue to me.In 5 years we will be talking about a top 2...Chelsea and Man City and manure,arsenal,Liverpool,spuds and hopefully ourselves battling it out for bronze. fergie can't last much longer and hopefully the manure love-in will come to a halt.
-
Just watched the press conference with SAF and I have to say, all other feelings aside, I almost feel sorry for him on this one. Rooney seems to be acting like the wanker we all know he is and has shafted Ferguson big style. If I was a genuine United fan, my piss would be boiling.
As it is, I'll sit back and see how it unfolds.
Don't care about SAF or United fans in all this. Remember how they turned Dwight Yorke's head and you'll be laughing your bollocks off for the rest of the day.
-
I heard somewhere that Man City have to reduce their wage bill to fit in with UEFA regulations on competition? That might rule them out from buying him.
I can't imagine him going abroad as he would have to keep travelling back and forth thousands of miles to see his kid assuming she gets main custody.
Surely all they have to do is sell Robinho and hey presto bring in fat boy?
-
Oh dear,the empire is crumbling all around Fergie. I suppose just like Liverpools domination came to an end it had to happen sooner or later,especially when Glaziers payments are due in a year or two.
Not sure if its been discussed but I heard a sickening rumour that Rooney will be offered 2 mill a month by Man City,if this takes place we should all take a march up to Eastlands with lits torches. How would this fit into Platini's plan for a fairer game?
-
Can we add the mancs to the clubs in trouble thread?
-
The latest news is that Man City have made Rooney an offer and he's interested. They said they'll give him 50 grans a week.
I thought it was 200. Still, fair does. Given the government's cut-backs, at least he's helping out Manchester's pensioners.
I don`t think thats a typo - 50 Grans a week -get it? :o
-
The end of a great era ( hope is a wonderful thing).
I am just so very pissed off that Citeh can do what they like though, this is not good for the game, irrespective of which player is involved,
-
The latest news is that Man City have made Rooney an offer and he's interested. They said they'll give him 50 grans a week.
I thought it was 200. Still, fair does. Given the government's cut-backs, at least he's helping out Manchester's pensioners.
lol
I've heard £500k a week - if so, thats fucking riduculous.
I don`t think thats a typo - 50 Grans a week -get it? :o
-
£500K a week. Lets just think about that. What could you do with that money?
Does anybody need that much money?
-
Pay a tax bill equivalent to a third world countries GDP for one.
-
I heard somewhere that Man City have to reduce their wage bill to fit in with UEFA regulations on competition? That might rule them out from buying him.
I can't imagine him going abroad as he would have to keep travelling back and forth thousands of miles to see his kid assuming she gets main custody.
Surely all they have to do is sell Robinho and hey presto bring in fat boy?
Already gone to Milan hasn't he?
Shifting Bellamy and Santa Cruz off the wage bill certainly won't do them any harm though.
-
you never know we might get a whole summer off Man City trying to unsettle our players if they get Rooney
-
Another so called big 4 club in crisis and more chance for us to take advantage of their decline and get above them.
They will always be top four because they've got loads of fans in Norway.
-
Just watched the press conference with SAF and I have to say, all other feelings aside, I almost feel sorry for him on this one. Rooney seems to be acting like the wanker we all know he is and has shafted Ferguson big style. If I was a genuine United fan, my piss would be boiling.
As it is, I'll sit back and see how it unfolds.
SAF looked shell shocked to me [though it could all be an act], who needs soap operas when this is going on.
I'd like to see Rooney go abroad, partly to see if he could cope.
-
I heard somewhere that Man City have to reduce their wage bill to fit in with UEFA regulations on competition? That might rule them out from buying him.
I can't imagine him going abroad as he would have to keep travelling back and forth thousands of miles to see his kid assuming she gets main custody.
Surely all they have to do is sell Robinho and hey presto bring in fat boy?
Already gone to Milan hasn't he?
Shifting Bellamy and Santa Cruz off the wage bill certainly won't do them any harm though.
So he has, I thought he was on loan
-
I heard somewhere that Man City have to reduce their wage bill to fit in with UEFA regulations on competition? That might rule them out from buying him.
I can't imagine him going abroad as he would have to keep travelling back and forth thousands of miles to see his kid assuming she gets main custody.
They will fook off fat arse Barry for a start..
How are they going to do that?
He's two years into a five year contract on stupid money per week. Nobody else will pay that, he won't want to take a wage-cut.
No reason he would go anywhere.
-
Arry wants him at Spurs.
-
I was reading that Times article today and agreed with most of it except for this horse-shit
McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
By 'five', I assume he means 'seven' and by 'better players' I assume he means 'players not fit to lace his boots'.
Dickhead.
THIS IS THE STORY OF THE DAY.
Forget shrek
how can a sports journalist be so ill informed. Bruce and Pallister may well have been very good defenders, but God was so much better than anyone else for a generation
truely incredible...Bruce and Pallister better players BETTER PLAYERS than Paul McGrath and this twat writes for the Times ..oh yes I forgot it's a Murdoch paper!
-
Listening to Ferguson today I feel quite elated! What goes around comes around. I am still hurting from him tapping up and signing Yorke and Bosnich and now Utd fans know how we felt when Barry and Milner left.
-
Garnering sympathy for Man Utd was exactly what the press conference was all about. Does anybody think Fergie would have indulged the press so much without an ulterior motive? This was designed to make them look like victims, and him look like the baddie. The fact is that they're both utterly devoid of scruples. Rooney has been taught well by his mentor.
-
Another so called big 4 club in crisis and more chance for us to take advantage of their decline and get above them.
They will always be top four because they've got loads of fans in Norway.
The fact they've got loads of fans from Norway is probably a decent contributor to their coffers.
I bet there were a similar number of people from Norway at their last home game as there were people from over 50 miles away from Birmingham at our last home game.
Rooney's fallen out with Ferguson. To read some of the posts on here you'd think Man United were sinking down the table towards mediocrity.
-
It'll be interesting if it turns out that Man City have made Rooney a mega offer (talk on the radio this evening was of a 500,000 a week offer - how revolting is that in this current economic climate?) and he goes there.
Interesting because, if there's any consistency about it, we should be hearing the same people who were labelling us a selling club a few months ago for having Milner prised away, saying the same thing about Man United.
-
It'll be interesting if it turns out that Man City have made Rooney a mega offer (talk on the radio this evening was of a 500,000 a week offer - how revolting is that in this current economic climate?) and he goes there
Although as Ads says at the top of the thread, all that extra tax he would generate would be very useful.
-
He'll probably use it to get a good accountant to advise him into some good loopholes though.
-
He'll probably use it to get a good accountant to advise him into some good loopholes though.
Aren't footballers just on normal PAYE though? When that John Arne-Riise payslip appeared it had him paying something like £50,000 per month in income tax and NI contributions.
I wouldn't have thought an accountant could do much there - Risso?
-
peanuts, compared to golf
Jim Furyk picked up 11 million dollars for winning ONE match
-
He'll probably use it to get a good accountant to advise him into some good loopholes though.
Aren't footballers just on normal PAYE though? When that John Arne-Riise payslip appeared it had him paying something like £50,000 per month in income tax and NI contributions.
I wouldn't have thought an accountant could do much there - Risso?
Oh God. That'll set Villadawg off.
-
He'll probably use it to get a good accountant to advise him into some good loopholes though.
Aren't footballers just on normal PAYE though? When that John Arne-Riise payslip appeared it had him paying something like £50,000 per month in income tax and NI contributions.
I wouldn't have thought an accountant could do much there - Risso?
Oh God. That'll set Villadawg off.
Although....erm...image rights? Amortised bonus payments over the length of the contract?
Catering staff?
-
He'll probably use it to get a good accountant to advise him into some good loopholes though.
Aren't footballers just on normal PAYE though? When that John Arne-Riise payslip appeared it had him paying something like £50,000 per month in income tax and NI contributions.
I wouldn't have thought an accountant could do much there - Risso?
Oh God. That'll set Villadawg off.
Although....erm...image rights? Amortised bonus payments over the length of the contract?
Catering staff?
(http://www.calbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/gun-to-head.jpg)
-
Just watched the press conference with SAF and I have to say, all other feelings aside, I almost feel sorry for him on this one. Rooney seems to be acting like the wanker we all know he is and has shafted Ferguson big style. If I was a genuine United fan, my piss would be boiling.
As it is, I'll sit back and see how it unfolds.
Don't care about SAF or United fans in all this. Remember how they turned Dwight Yorke's head and you'll be laughing your bollocks off for the rest of the day.
I must agree with this. When Yorke left I was gutted. If anyone owed a club a little loyalty it was him seeing as we took him from the middle of nowhere and helped turn him into a fantastic player. When Dwight left I genuinely felt hard done by. Listening to Man Utd fans cheerfully claim he has left Villa to win trophies was more than a little galling...I think we could have built a great side around Dwight.
It's a similar situation with Rooney. He knows there are better options elsewhere to win trophies and earn greater money and he is ready to make that move. Tough luck Fergie and the gloryhunting fans - what comes around goes around! Great stuff.
-
He'll probably use it to get a good accountant to advise him into some good loopholes though.
Aren't footballers just on normal PAYE though? When that John Arne-Riise payslip appeared it had him paying something like £50,000 per month in income tax and NI contributions.
I wouldn't have thought an accountant could do much there - Risso?
Oh God. That'll set Villadawg off.
Although....erm...image rights? Amortised bonus payments over the length of the contract?
Catering staff?
(http://www.calbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/gun-to-head.jpg)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/559/harveysaysnooo.jpg) (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/harveysaysnooo.jpg/)
-
Rooney last year could demand top money but with the new rules coming in i'm not sure Chelski would be interested. His personal life has affected his form and that saga is a long way form ending. It is gratifying to see both Pool and United falling from their lofty perches, if only Abramovich would walk from Chelsea.
-
I was reading that Times article today and agreed with most of it except for this horse-shit
McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
maybe he meant SB + GP = God?
Either way, as you say, its horse-shit.
I can't help thinking that Rooney knows he's likely to get the boot soner or later, like Beckham and Keane and the rest of them and is just trying to pre-empt it.
-
£500K a week. Lets just think about that. What could you do with that money?
Does anybody need that much money?
Nope, it's fucking outragous.
When Citeh win things, will their fans really be pleased / overwhemed like a proper football fan or will they just say " thank God about that after all the money we spent".
This is seriously affecting the game in a very very negative way.
£500k a week is just mad.
-
When Yorke left I was gutted. If anyone owed a club a little loyalty it was him seeing as we took him from the middle of nowhere and helped turn him into a fantastic player. When Dwight left I genuinely felt hard done by. Listening to Man Utd fans cheerfully claim he has left Villa to win trophies was more than a little galling...I think we could have built a great side around Dwight.
I think Yorke was about 27 at the time that Manyoo came sniffing. By that stage he'd been at the club eight or nine years and he'd been scoring regularly for about the last four. To think he'd have been loyal (in the Steve Bull sense) was more in hope than expectation for me because going there would mean trophies - they did the treble in his first season, I seem to remember. Sure, I hoped Yorke was going to stay, and was gutted when he didn't. But I could understand why he left. I did have a chuckle to myself when I heard Rooney wanted out though.
As for anyone still gaffawing at the prospect of the end of United's era of success, I wouldn't be so premature. Not sure if anyone else has made the point but Ferguson has lost top players before now, yet still come back with more success. Their era of success will truely be put to the test when Ferguson retires, IMO.
-
Obviously time will tell how well Rooney does; one thing about him, imo, he may well have image rights, but there's something about him that's not likeable. He hasn't got the 'x' factor, or whatever it is. He's already been dropped by one of his sponsors. His image to me, is that of a spoilt brat with only one redeeming feature - he's a good footballer, who happens to be the cash cow for all his hangers on.
-
I was reading that Times article today and agreed with most of it except for this horse-shit
McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
It took two players to fill Paul McGrath's position at Man Yoo....
-
seems to me rooney has a problem with authority and being told what he can and cant do -sir alex rules with an iron fist and rooney doesnt like it , spoilt brat basically and i think sir alex will get rid in january.
-
Just watched the press conference with SAF and I have to say, all other feelings aside, I almost feel sorry for him on this one. Rooney seems to be acting like the wanker we all know he is and has shafted Ferguson big style. If I was a genuine United fan, my piss would be boiling.
As it is, I'll sit back and see how it unfolds.
May I suggest Fergie could have adopted a quote from another manager who felt let down by his best player wanting to leave.
"Wayne came to see me at the start of the season saying he wanted to leave believing he could better himself elsewhere to win more trophies. If I had had a gun in the office at the time, I would have shot him "
-
I'm sorry if this has been spotted already, but I notice that Man City are away to Man U on the 12th February. That'll be fun if his agent decides that's the best place for him.
-
I'm a cynic by nature and I thought Fergie was playing up to the press yesteday. Giving it the wounded soldier routine? All this doughey-eyed nonsense reminded me of Lady Di when Martin Bashir interviewed her
I reckon he knows exactly what he's doing, calculating that his act can turn the fans against Rooney.
He's put the ball in Rooney's court now, it's for Rooney to give his version of what hapened.
-
I haven't got much sympathy for either party here. Growing up watching united dominate instilled a deep rooted dislike of everything about Man U. They've tapped up enough players over the years and interfered when Rooney was at Everton. So on that score what goes around comes around.
That said, I must say Fergie gave a PR masterclass yesterday. Alastair Campbell eat your heart out! He completely turned the tables on poor Wayne.
-
I was reading that Times article today and agreed with most of it except for this horse-shit
McGrath took the challenge of Ferguson's dismissal and played brilliantly for another five years with Aston Villa. But at least he was replaced, in the shape of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister, by better players.
Stopped reading at that point. Bleurgh!
-
Listening to Ferguson today I feel quite elated! What goes around comes around. I am still hurting from him tapping up and signing Yorke and Bosnich and now Utd fans know how we felt when Barry and Milner left.
Fergie actually signed Bossie as a teenager but couldn't get a work permit. Mark agreed with Fergie that when that wasn't an issue anymore he would resign with ManU. Once he got his green card by marrying his English GF (convenience springs to mind) he signed for Atkinson and us.
Fergie was fuming and when he got him on a free he essentially froze him out of the first team and ignored him to punish him for going back on his word originally.
Also with what happened with Mark later on he actually did us a favour.
-
When Yorke left I was gutted. If anyone owed a club a little loyalty it was him seeing as we took him from the middle of nowhere and helped turn him into a fantastic player. When Dwight left I genuinely felt hard done by. Listening to Man Utd fans cheerfully claim he has left Villa to win trophies was more than a little galling...I think we could have built a great side around Dwight.
I think Yorke was about 27 at the time that Manyoo came sniffing. By that stage he'd been at the club eight or nine years and he'd been scoring regularly for about the last four. To think he'd have been loyal (in the Steve Bull sense) was more in hope than expectation for me because going there would mean trophies - they did the treble in his first season, I seem to remember. Sure, I hoped Yorke was going to stay, and was gutted when he didn't. But I could understand why he left. I did have a chuckle to myself when I heard Rooney wanted out though.
As for anyone still gaffawing at the prospect of the end of United's era of success, I wouldn't be so premature. Not sure if anyone else has made the point but Ferguson has lost top players before now, yet still come back with more success. Their era of success will truely be put to the test when Ferguson retires, IMO.
True Chris.
But the difference between those other occasions and this one is he always had the financial resources and free hand to sign pretty much whoever he wanted.
Even if he didn't spend a huge amount (as in 1995) that was his choice, as he knew he had an exceptional crop breaking through. He always ruled the roost, he always had the final say. Now he's being dictated to by the Yanks and I'd be embarrassed by some of the players he's signed in recent years if they rocked up at Villa.
If there is one bloke who can pull it off it might be him though, I'd concede that. You just have to wonder how much enthusiasm he has left for the job, seeing United increasingly off the pace and not able to compete in the transfer market.
As for Yorke, I don't blame him for going. I just wished he had given us one more year as we had the nucleus of a good side then. And moved on a free the following year to a top side on the continent if we hadn't pushed on. Rather than move to those cants.
-
Utd's spine is going. Within a year, conceivably they could be without (for reasons of selling or retirement):
Rooney
Giggs
Scholes,
Ferdinand
Neville
Van Der Sar.
Evra (I'd fancy him to throw his toys out and try for a move if a bigger club comes sniffing).
Particularly in the case of the old boys, the 20 year brigade, Utd still haven't found better in those positions.
If indeed Fergie has little money to spend, and with his hit rate in the markets becoming more erratic by the year, I fancy Utd to suffer for a few years, eating City's dust. In fact for the likes of ourselves, Utd can be taken in the next couple of years IMO, unless the Glazers can get ousted. And you know what? I'm delighted!
I've been taking the michael out of a Utd fan at work all day about Rooney. Like many, he's washed his hands of Wayne already, and considers him a treacherous c**t.
But throughout the 90's and 00's, Utd were built around the creme of British talent. Fergie now seems to pin too much hope on fancy dan foreign boys, and the Brit players just aren't as talented as they used to be either. I don't see them producing the next Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, by any stretch of the imagination. They've just about managed the new Nicky Butt with Fletcher, who has had the added benefit of not having to get in ahead of Roy Keane.
They're in trouble though. The debts are so huge too, that only a crazy Arab would be tempted to buy them out I'd imagine.
-
BBC reporting that Rooney has confirmed that he wants to leave. He claims that the overriding issue is Utd's lack of spending on the team. Also that he has issues with some of the things said by Fergie yesterday. I'm sure he'll feel much better once he has trebled his wages.
-
That said, I must say Fergie gave a PR masterclass yesterday. Alastair Campbell eat your heart out! He completely turned the tables on poor Wayne.
I think Rooney's reply was also excellent. He's made it very difficult for Fergie to attack him again, putting the blame indirectly at the door of the Glaziers, whilst singing the praises of Fergie.
-
Rooney is an ungrateful little fucker, plain and simple. And i hope he goes to City, gets a De Jong special in training, gets fatter than he already is and goes the way football wise as Gazza. Nasty little shit.
Fergie will either make sure he gets 50/60 million to invest or retire next summer. Mind you I think Hernandez looks a find. He will need a top forward and couple of top midfield players soon though.
-
Rooney is quoted as saying that 'he is concerend about the direction that Utd are taking', presumably the direction of no longer paying the stupidest wages in the world.
Greedy ******.
-
lol, United would be nearly as bad as Liverpool if Rooney leaves.
I like this new Premier League that is opening up a bit more, making things a lil' more interesting.
-
lol, United would be nearly as bad as Liverpool if Rooney leaves.
I like this new Premier League that is opening up a bit more, making things a lil' more interesting.
Yeah,rather than Chelsea and Manure winning everything,it will be Chelsea and Man city winning everything instead
-
"Manchester United lack abition" - never thought I'd hear those words.
-
I'll say this for him, the advice he's been given before putting the statement out is spot on.
-
Rooney is repeating a speech made by many a Villa player during the reign of Ellis.
The fun continues, anyone remember "Ellis, Ellis give us a wave"?
-
Rooney is an ungrateful little fucker, plain and simple. And i hope he goes to City, gets a De Jong special in training, gets fatter than he already is and goes the way football wise as Gazza. Nasty little shit.
Fergie will either make sure he gets 50/60 million to invest or retire next summer. Mind you I think Hernandez looks a find. He will need a top forward and couple of top midfield players soon though.
Rooney isn't ungrateful at all.
He is an evertonian, who moved to man utd.
He has gone from being part of a formidable front three of Rooney tevez and ronaldo to being on his own.
I say absolute fair play too Rooney for speaking his mind.
And Fergie, you know how we all feel now.
-
Rooney is an ungrateful little fucker, plain and simple. And i hope he goes to City, gets a De Jong special in training, gets fatter than he already is and goes the way football wise as Gazza. Nasty little shit.
Fergie will either make sure he gets 50/60 million to invest or retire next summer. Mind you I think Hernandez looks a find. He will need a top forward and couple of top midfield players soon though.
Rooney isn't ungrateful at all.
He is an evertonian, who moved to man utd.
He has gone from being part of a formidable front three of Rooney tevez and ronaldo to being on his own.
I say absolute fair play too Rooney for speaking his mind.
And Fergie, you know how we all feel now.
Judging by the way he has behaved since leaving Goodison Park, I would say Rooney only cares about himself and is certainly not an "Evertonian".
-
He is an open evertonian, he has been silly at times, but being ridiculed by the team he loves doesn't help.
Even then though he said I want too leave to win trophies, he has won everything and has basically told Utd he wants to leave because they are on the slide and he wants to continue winning trophies
-
It was recently reported that he insisted on his sons nursery being adorned with Evertonian furnishings.
-
It was recently reported that he insisted on his sons nursery being adorned with Evertonian furnishings.
Where was it reported? Not having a go at you, but this types me as a typical urban myth. Added to which, I'd have thought it was better for Kai's nursery to be decorated in pastel colours.
It's indicative of how celebrity based his life is though that I'm aware of his son's name. Apart from Beckham's offspring, doubt I'd know the names of any other footballers' children.
-
Harvey.
-
Kasper Schmeichel, Jordi Cruyft and Frank Lampard.
-
Jamie Redknapp
-
Loved "Rooneys" eloquent statement. I can't stand footballer statements, because 99/100 you know the dopey buggers had no input into what is written. I can just see the ape sitting down, quill in hand to pore out his soul upon the parchment. Fuck off Wayne!
Makes me laugh thinking of Rooney living out in Spain. He'll live off Egg and chips, and that walking middle finger to Darwin hasn't even come close to mastering English, let alone having to learn a new language FFS. Would he get into the Real or Barca side? Not right now. I don't ever see him recapturing what he did in the first 3/4 of last season, I really don't. At the moment he can't be assed. Most of his effort now seems to stem from aggression or petulance. When he's neither being aggressive or petulant, he just can't be arsed. It's all lazy, the touch, the ball use, the passing, shooting. He looked like a championship player out of his depth at the World Cup and so far this season too.
Furthermore, I couldn't care less. Get him out the country. Spain will do, though I'd rather put him on a Rocket to the Sun along with Jordan, Kerry Katona, Gazza, and they can pick up JT and Cashley while their at it too.
-
Nigel Clough. Know more than I thought I knew.......
-
Dalian Atkinson
-
He wants reassurances about the future of the squad? Who on earth is he to a) throw a strop about that and b) to expect us to believe that's the only reason for leaving? That's better than Lard Arse's "going stale" comment.
-
Dalian Atkinson
Forgot about him, Karren. ;)
-
It was recently reported that he insisted on his sons nursery being adorned with Evertonian furnishings.
Where was it reported? Not having a go at you, but this types me as a typical urban myth. Added to which, I'd have thought it was better for Kai's nursery to be decorated in pastel colours.
To be honest, the best thing Rooney could decorate "Kai"'s bedroom walls with would be "I'M SORRY I GAVE YOU THAT STUPID FUCKING NAME" in massive letters.
-
He can paint the town Blue if he likes but his behaviour towards Moyes and the club, in my opinion, was unforgiveable.
But of course, he'll take absolutely no responsibility whatsoever, and blame everybody else. Rather like he did with the England fans in South Africa.
-
I can't see any "Evertonian" decorations of this picture taken with father and son.
(http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0711/360_dvd_shrek_3rd_1113.jpg)
-
To be honest, the best thing Rooney could decorate "Kai"'s bedroom walls with would be "I'M SORRY I GAVE YOU THAT STUPID FUCKING NAME" in massive letters.
Bleeding hell. In my thirst for knowledge about the name Kai, have discovered there's a website called babynamespedia.com (http://www.babynamespedia.com/). Not sure I'd choose the name Kai, but with apologies to any Waynes out there, prefer the name Kai to Wayne.
-
To be honest, the best thing Rooney could decorate "Kai"'s bedroom walls with would be "I'M SORRY I GAVE YOU THAT STUPID FUCKING NAME" in massive letters.
Bleeding hell. In my thirst for knowledge about the name Kai, have discovered there's a website called babynamespedia.com (http://www.babynamespedia.com/). Not sure I'd choose the name Kai, but with apologies to any Waynes out there, prefer the name Kai to Wayne.
And, to complete the shitness, isn't the child's full name Kai Wayne Rooney?
-
Yes, and apparently Kai was the 68th most popular boy's name last year. It's amazing what the internet teaches me.
-
To be honest, the best thing Rooney could decorate "Kai"'s bedroom walls with would be "I'M SORRY I GAVE YOU THAT STUPID FUCKING NAME" in massive letters.
Bleeding hell. In my thirst for knowledge about the name Kai, have discovered there's a website called babynamespedia.com (http://www.babynamespedia.com/). Not sure I'd choose the name Kai, but with apologies to any Waynes out there, prefer the name Kai to Wayne.
And, to complete the shitness, isn't the child's full name Kai Wayne Rooney?
I wonder which name was decided by the "I want to be seen to be fashionable" mother and which was decided by the "I can't be arsed with my family" father.
-
Yes, and apparently Kai was the 68th most popular boy's name last year. It's amazing what the internet teaches me.
A young lad by the name of Kye (sic) plays in my boy's team. The coach genuinely thought it was a nickname and asked him a couple of times what his real name was
-
And, to complete the shitness, isn't the child's full name Kai Wayne Rooney?
Wayne Kai would have been worse.
-
Thing that strikes me as odd in all this is the timing.
It's two months before the first available opportunity to move on presents itself. During that time he'll have to endure a fair amount of stick from United supporters having effectively told them their club doesn't meet his standards anymore.
These things usually go on behind closed doors anyway, but if he wanted to create an auction, announcing his intentions even early December would have been better than doing it now. It would have given him breathing space and the chance to recapture something approximating form in the meantime.
I have no doubts that he is as thick as pigshit so couldn't be trusted to pick the most sensible, hassle free option on his own. But he is being advised on this, possibly led by the nose by advisors and I can't believe they didn't veto this plan.
Unless of course it is their plan and they just want to give United long enough to come up with a stupid offer. Using the prospect of him leaving as a form of brinkmanship.
-
I think the issue has probably been forced to some degree by his form having been so wretched for so long now.
If he's been offered mega money by Man City, then you throw in his personal turmoil, and it is going to affect his form. The longer he looks shit for club and company, the more questions people ask, and the more the issue is likely to get forced to the surface.
-
Just heard on the European Cup highlights show that according to the Mirror, there's a 10am meeting between Gill and Ferguson. Apparently he's either going to be transfer listed or suspended.
Thoughts?
-
If I were a foreign club I wouldn't hire him. I don't think Wayne Rooney is even good enough to get in Villa team.
-
I don't think Wayne Rooney is even good enough to get in Villa team.
No offence, that is just silly.
Football ability wise, he is what we always needed. A drop in form doesn't make him a bad player overnight.
If you're talking about his character, I never have this thought of footballers being role models. They are employed by the club to do what they do best, playing football, beyond that I don't give a shit.
-
If I were a foreign club I wouldn't hire him. I don't think Wayne Rooney is even good enough to get in Villa team.
So what are your saying if he bought out his contract and said he wanted to play for us because he always had a secret long standing affection for AVFC, and also we didnt need to pay him because hes the guy with the £113 million lottery ticket ?
Would you turn him down flat or at least put him on the bench with Sidwell ?
-
He is an open evertonian, he has been silly at times, but being ridiculed by the team he loves doesn't help.
He didn't really help himself much though by kissing his Man United badge when he played against Everton at Goodison.
-
If I were a foreign club I wouldn't hire him. I don't think Wayne Rooney is even good enough to get in Villa team.
So what are your saying if he bought out his contract and said he wanted to play for us because he always had a secret long standing affection for AVFC, and also we didnt need to pay him because hes the guy with the £113 million lottery ticket ?
Would you turn him down flat or at least put him on the bench with Sidwell ?
Wayne Rooney is a lot of things but hardly deserves that ! ::)
-
If I were a foreign club I wouldn't hire him.
There is something about him that leads me to believe that he would be from the Ian Rush school of 'fitting in' in another country, he'd be back in a season.
-
There is something about him that leads me to believe that he would be from the Ian Rush school of 'fitting in' in another country, he'd be back in a season.
Driving 30 miles along the East Lancs Road to Stretford was a cultural wrench for Rooney. Fuck knows what he'd be like in Spain.
He'd probably be walking around sunburnt in a sombrero, clutching a straw donkey with his England shirt on
-
We should not gloat nor laugh about Liverpool & Man Utd imploding. Oh, go on then...
-
This getting really funny now - love the wanker tourist fans ringing in on talk Shite
Their arrogance knows no bounds - one of the our drivers is one- i stated that United are on the downward spiral of no money and selling their best players and i thought "Dave the glory hunter from Norfolks" head was going to explode
Interesting how he always claimed that United fans treated ex players returning with respect more than any other club - but now Rooney is just a scouse c*** and we should never have bought him
Ha ha ha
-
Don't know if it's been mentioned already but Rooney is obviously a proud Scouser and i've often wondered how he feels playing for a club whilst the supporters constantly remind everybody just how much they truly hate Scousers? Although why anybody living in Norway or Devon feels so strongly about the people of Liverppol is a mystery.
-
It was recently reported that he insisted on his sons nursery being adorned with Evertonian furnishings.
At the end of the last home game last season during the parade around the pitch at Old Trafford, Rooney had his son in a red England strip. I'm sure to the fans in the stands it would have looked like a Man U kit.
-
Rooney would never play for Liverpool but I'm sure he would be more than happy to play for man city and I think he will go to city .
-
Rooney off, Neville, Giggs, van der Sar and Scholes on their way out, weakest squad in years, crap owners, massive debt, empty seats appearing, it's not looking good for the Manc shite is it? Come and join us in 6th-10th, and we'll see how many of their glory hunting fans disappear then.
-
Rooney off, Neville, Giggs, van der Sar and Scholes on their way out, weakest squad in years, crap owners, massive debt, empty seats appearing, it's not looking good for the Manc shite is it? Come and join us in 6th-10th, and we'll see how many of their glory hunting fans disappear then.
They'll still attract and damned sight more than we would. Or could.
-
Rooney off, Neville, Giggs, van der Sar and Scholes on their way out, weakest squad in years, crap owners, massive debt, empty seats appearing, it's not looking good for the Manc shite is it? Come and join us in 6th-10th, and we'll see how many of their glory hunting fans disappear then.
They'll still attract and damned sight more than we would. Or could.
They've always had big crowds, even when they went down. But saying that, should this turmoil prove to be the start of a decline, it remains to be seen just how many Johnny Come Latelys or even the genuine support will still turn up every week to pay £50 for the privilege of watching a side battle it out for the top four.
-
I'd still guess at 50/60 000.
-
I'd still guess at 50/60 000.
I think the 50,000 plus is about right and it is still a huge crowd. But given their debt problems, the loss of twenty to twenty five thousand on their gate will have on their finances could be catastrophic.
-
Rooney off, Neville, Giggs, van der Sar and Scholes on their way out, weakest squad in years, crap owners, massive debt, empty seats appearing, it's not looking good for the Manc shite is it? Come and join us in 6th-10th, and we'll see how many of their glory hunting fans disappear then.
They'll still attract and damned sight more than we would. Or could.
I know that, but we don't profess to be the biggest club in the world do we? Every one of their home games this season has gone to general sale which NEVER used to happen, a lot of their glory hunters are losing interest already. Also i wouldn't want us to get 76,000 crowds if they contained fans like theirs, their home games are full of JCL's, daytrippers, foreigners etc. and i wouldn't want that at VP, the atmosphere is already crap enough as it is.
-
It is a double edged sword really. You need the Day Trippers for the finance they provide and to be in a position to compete. However, they’ll also drive up ticket prices so you’ll be paying more for the pleasure and ultimately the club can turn round and say that you’re paying for a successful side.
-
I'd still guess at 50/60 000.
Agreed - I remember when we were promoted with them in the 70's from the old second division - they were called the "red army" in part because of the trouble they caused but mainly because there was gazillions of them. They are a massive club and will be well followed however they perform on the pitch.
-
Haha, has anyone seen the favourite odds as to where Rooney will go? Of course you have the obvious teams like Real Madrid, Man City, Chelsea, AC Milan, Barcelona, Arsenal and Inter Milan... then Totnumb! So from going from a joke of a club they're now somehow part of the elite clubs of the world? Wow lol, they could never afford him.
Anyway, it'll be interesting to see where he goes, quite a few 'football pundits' aka shit ex-players think he's going to Citeh. I'm not too sure though, I would of thought he wants to get away from Manchester ASAP; however, if he does though it'd be a massive transfer in football and just think of how insane and moronic Man City fans will become from wanting Rooney's leg broken and him being 'overrated' to him being their 'saviour' with the dumb sounded "ROOOOOONEH" chants.
First Ronaldo, now Rooney... can United recover?! It's like the Miami Heat losing both D-Wade and LeBron.
-
Ian Holloway's gone off on one about Rooney and the Bosman ruling.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9116212.stm
I agree with him but why's it a big deal all of a sudden? Because the self-styled Biggest Club In The World have had their toes trod on? I don't recall any injustices of the Bosman law being brought up when they signed Mark Bosnich.
Ajax had the best team in the world in the mid-90s and they were torn apart by this, because all their top players went off to Spain, Italy and England on free transfers where they could earn more money.
-
.
-
Haha, has anyone seen the favourite odds as to where Rooney will go? Of course you have the obvious teams like Real Madrid, Man City, Chelsea, AC Milan, Barcelona, Arsenal and Inter Milan... then Totnumb! So from going from a joke of a club they're now somehow part of the elite clubs of the world? Wow lol, they could never afford him.
Anyway, it'll be interesting to see where he goes, quite a few 'football pundits' aka shit ex-players think he's going to Citeh. I'm not too sure though, I would of thought he wants to get away from Manchester ASAP; however, if he does though it'd be a massive transfer in football and just think of how insane and moronic Man City fans will become from wanting Rooney's leg broken and him being 'overrated' to him being their 'saviour' with the dumb sounded "ROOOOOONEH" chants.
First Ronaldo, now Rooney... can United recover?! It's like the Miami Heat losing both D-Wade and LeBron.
Spurs to be fair are 25/1 to sign him. To put that in context we are 16/1 to win the fa cup.
-
Rooney's had some visitors round his house tonight apparently.
-
-
"It's like when you own a house"
No, it's really not Ian.
-
Letter in today's Times:
I note that Wayne Rooney's deals include a £3.55 million contract for five books over twelve years.
I do hope that this amount of reading will not prove detrimental to his other activities.
-
He's just signed a 5 year deal at Man United.
-
He's just signed a 5 year deal at Man United.
How bizarre.
I wonder if that's some deal he's done with them to safeguard the fee they'd get for him, but with clauses in to let him move on if a certain offer came through.
That's probably too Machiavellian.
-
He's just signed a 5 year deal at Man United.
How bizarre.
I wonder if that's some deal he's done with them to safeguard the fee they'd get for him, but with clauses in to let him move on if a certain offer came through.
That's probably too Machiavellian.
It's also exactly what I thought
-
as black Sabbath said MOB RULES!
he decided he didn't want the hassle?
-
He wasn't in the house when the crowd were outside, his missus was though I believe. I wonder if she had a go at him to stop all this and he kind of owes her.
-
His agent got the pay rise he was angling for then
-
Signs 5 year deal (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9118602.stm)
-
He wasn't in the house when the crowd were outside, his missus was though I believe. I wonder if she had a go at him to stop all this and he kind of owes her.
I wonder if thirty people would really be able to get as far as Wayne Rooney's house, press the buzzer thing and say "Come out Wayne, we won't hurt you."
-
As far as I'm aware they were outside the gates chanting. Obviously it could be a drop the dead donkey/ITN thing of exaggerating for effect for the press.
-
That's a bit of a u-turn
-
Is there nothing about Rooney that isn't odious?
Knobbing grannies to mouthing off at fans who have travelled 6000 miles to watch the trash that he helped serve up to a U-turn of incredible proportions in signing for a club who only days ago in his eyes "lacked ambition."
Maybe extra £££s were used as a leverage.
-
What a cock
-
Truly bizarre.
-
Obviously he's happy to hear that Ashley Young is signing for them next Summer!!
-
Panto season starts earlier every year.
-
'Sign your name here Wayne'
'Actually don't worry about that, just dip your head in the bowl of pretty paint and press it against the paper.'
-
Lets hope he carries on playing shit.. strange, after slagging your club off...
-
What a day this is football wise. Shrek's ridiculous U-Turn, Ash not signing a contract, we can't even sell out against Small Heath. Not that any of it will matter if we win tomorrow.
-
Fulham away is sold out - I've just nabbed the last two tickets (I expect they say that to everyone!)
-
Just shows how much money runs football now-a-days.
It's a bit like saying "I hate working here, it's proper shit", but staying for another 12 years.
-
Be interesting to see the Manure fans' reaction the next time he plays at Old Trafford. Will they be on his back or slagging him off for flirting with Citeh/Chelsea in the first place. Fickle fans and that......
-
Just saw something on Skynews (not all and no volume) about Gabby commented about Rooney's behaviour. Anyone else saw it, and explain what he said?
-
What on earth is a tweep?
Rooney's team-mate Rio Ferdinand said on social networking website Twitter: "It was never in doubt in my mind tweeps, Wazza is Man Utd through and through there's no way I could have seen him playing for another club, defo not a Prem club anyway."
-
What a fucking circus! Absolutely ridiculous, and Rooney is just a frigging idiot! After all this, he's needlessly alienated a lot of fans. There'll be a lot of Utd fans who'll still be stinging and will still need convincing. He could have saved himself all the hassle, but does that boy ever think ahead to consequences? No he doesn't. Thick as shit.
Sadly we can't ship him out the country now. He brings the whole country down. He's like the distant relative you invite to a wedding because you have to, knowing full well he'll make an ass of himself and no one outside his direct family can stand.
I don't believe he'll ever recapture the form of last season before january. He's all about money now, and I don't think he cares enough about his football. I also think he's peaked and will never be able to put himself in the bracket of greats like Messi. The last 6 months in particular, I don't believe Rooney has the temperament, fortitude or intelligence to fully recover from.
-
There seems to be a school of thought oop north that it was all a Fergie inspired stunt to put pressure on the owners and for him to come out smelling of roses, I cant see why Rooney would walk into the role of looking a like a right plum though.
-
There seems to be a school of thought oop north that it was all a Fergie inspired stunt to put pressure on the owners and for him to come out smelling of roses, I cant see why Rooney would walk into the role of looking a like a right plum though.
I can think of a few million reasons.
-
Rooney wouldn't be short of a few bob whoever he ended up playing for, if anything this makes him (even) less attractive to sponsors.
-
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/19/article-1321997-0BAE0063000005DC-568_634x370.jpg)
-
Sponsors, like supporters, won't care once the goals start going in again.
-
So soon after the brasses thing? He's be a fool to get himself talked into that kind of conspiracy, he might be but Stretford isn't.
-
So soon after the brasses thing? He's be a fool to get himself talked into that kind of conspiracy, he might be but Stretford isn't.
Remember how Kate Moss lost all her sponsors for at least a fortnight?
-
I take the point but Rooneys stock has never been lower, the type of conspiracy being talked about is incredibly high risk for alll concerned.
-
I knew it. When he said he was 'going to leave' I never fully believed it and always thought he'd just eventually just sign a new contract which he has done. It's blatantly a bit of publicity stunt which he tried to use to his advantage over the last few days, but he knew himself he never really wanted to leave. How futile.
Oh well, after this little drama people are going to find another reason to hate him... especially the Man Citeh fans who bought a Citeh shirt with his name on the back.
-
I bloody knew he'd stay.
-
After all this, he's needlessly alienated a lot of fans. There'll be a lot of Utd fans who'll still be stinging and will still need convincing.
You're assuming Man Utd fans are like us, rather than a bunch of glory hunting arseholes that they are.
I spoke to my Mancunian brother in law this morning and his first reaction as "Great. Hopefully this will now lead to Rooney rediscovering his form". Wait until the next time Rooney plays, they'll be singing his name, like the last few days never happened.
-
A quick look at the Redcafe forum there are plenty there who are very negative about the charmless, greedy, selfish, face like a cows arse, wealthy twat.
-
A quick look at the Redcafe forum there are plenty there who are very negative about the charmless, greedy, selfish, face like a cows arse, wealthy twat.
Why, what's Rio Ferdinand done now?
-
Of course there is always the argument that a 5 year contract simply vastly increases the amount of dosh that a money-no-object club like Citeh would have to stump up next summer.
-
A quick look at the Redcafe forum there are plenty there who are very negative about the charmless, greedy, selfish, face like a cows arse, wealthy twat.
Why, what's Rio Ferdinand done now?
This is very unfair......to the cows arse!
-
If he suddenly happens to find a rich vein of form when he's fit again in a few weeks, it'll all look very suspect.
Oh well, an extra £90k a week taken out of United's dwindling kitty is fine by me.
-
I have read on various (mainly unreliable) sources that Rooney is a bit of a divisive character. A lot of the united squad - Wes Brown and Nani - do not get along with him. Similarly for England he appears to be one of the egos that are uncontrollable, constantly trying to influence selection and formation.
If I was Fergie, I'd have been quite pleased to have got rid of him.
-
I have read on various (mainly unreliable) sources that Rooney is a bit of a divisive character. A lot of the united squad - Wes Brown and Nani - do not get along with him. Similarly for England he appears to be one of the egos that are uncontrollable, constantly trying to influence selection and formation.
If I was Fergie, I'd have been quite pleased to have got rid of him.
Now he can get rid of him and get 50M quid.
-
Brilliant bit of reasoning from Rooney here, he complains that Man Utd aren't signing the sort of players who match his ambitions, then he signs a contract for anything up to a quarter of a million quid a week (depending on which paper you read) which pretty much guarantees Man Utd won't be able to afford to sign the type of player which will match Rooney's ambitions!
-
There seems to be a school of thought oop north that it was all a Fergie inspired stunt to put pressure on the owners and for him to come out smelling of roses, I cant see why Rooney would walk into the role of looking a like a right plum though.
I can think of a few million reasons.
This occurred to me as soon as I heard he'd signed. Rooney and his agent get their fatter wads, Fergie comes out smelling of roses and the Glazers are given a warning that if they don't start shelling out they will no longer be able to attract or keep the top players. Certainly high risk though. A bit like O'Leary and the players letter, which backfired badly for O'Leary - but then he had nowhere near the clout or intelligence that Fergie has.
-
It's no wonder we're all falling out of love with the game. I'm sure William McGregor never envisaged all this nonsense. I've tried to avoid the news because the whole celebrity, money obsessed bandwagon makes me really angry. Though it's probably because I'm not getting any. (ahem..money that is)
-
Brilliant bit of reasoning from Rooney here, he complains that Man Utd aren't signing the sort of players who match his ambitions, then he signs a contract for anything up to a quarter of a million quid a week (depending on which paper you read) which pretty much guarantees Man Utd won't be able to afford to sign the type of player which will match Rooney's ambitions!
I doubt that's Rooney's reasoning, feeble though it likely is, enters into this farrago; he was just parroting what he had been told. I bet you he wouldn't choose to do all the ridiculous advertising stuff either.
-
I bet you he wouldn't choose to do all the ridiculous advertising stuff either.
For f*ck sake, he's supposedly a grown man.
He is no more photogenic or no more talented than Paul Scholes was/is, but Scholes' personality and priorities were/are different. Hence he was more than happy with his wedge from Man Utd and didn't/doesn't want the celebrity Hello/OK lifestyle with his face plastered over billboards and performing CGI-enhanced tricks during Champions League ad-breaks.
On the other hand, Rooney - and his missus - can't get enough of it. He might not conceive the ideas, but when his agent puts the idea on the table (or more likely, tells him what the pay cheque'll be), I bet he can't sign up quick enough. And that, ultimately, is his choice,
-
As ever I find myself agreeing with much of the BBC's Phil McNulty's take on it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2010/10/rooneys_troubles_not_over_yet.html
-
Let's just define ambition here - he's won the league, Champions league, FA cup and League cup, if that's not ambition I don't know what is, what else is left after you've won that lot with your club? Exactly.
This was a golden opportunity to show no man was bigger than the club, that players don't run the game and to show a bit of business sustainability in the face of mounting debts, this was a mistake. Should've been turfed.
-
I dont get it. A club thats hundreds of millions in debt and paying millions in interest can find £70:000 extra per week!! to pay this guy who currently aint doing anything too wonderful on the pitch.
Guess who'se gonna have to bare the cost for that? And now that the club's pushed the boat out, other players will be tempted to chance their arm and ask for an increase which means either even less money to pay of the debts, or fans again having to dig deeper into their pockets (at a time when the economy aint looking too healthy, and dropping attendances) to satisfy their (I love the club) players demands. The Utd board may have created a very big rod thats gonna come crashing back down on their bare backs. The next 2 years at Utd gonna be very very interesting.
-
"Shall I...shan't I. Oh bugger it. I shan't"
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af104/alanclare/Rooney.jpg)
-
In that article, Rooney looks just like this guy from SinCity
(http://www.sin-stuff.com/mom/files/gimgs/36_yellow-bastard-sin-city.jpg)
-
Greedy ******.
-
I am sure there is more to this that we will ever know
The way that other managers were interviewed about the situation - Mourhinio just laughed and said "Rooney will stay at United" a lot of them did even after shreks outpourings and it seemed there was no way back
maybe they all knew something more than us?
-
I am sure there is more to this that we will ever know
The way that other managers were interviewed about the situation - Mourhinio just laughed and said "Rooney will stay at United" a lot of them did even after shreks outpourings and it seemed there was no way back
maybe they all knew something more than us?
Well they surely knew that his comments were scripted by somebody else and hardly recognizable as his own words or mode of expression.
-
Before the events of the last week, I had a fairly low opinion of Rooney based on his behaviour (no, not the private life bit, from a football point of view) and I have seen nothing to change my opinion.
I don't expect footballers to be paragons of virtue, but from what I can make out he appears to be a self-centered individual who abdicates any kind or responsibility for his behaviour. Similar traits that are present in many of the regular members of the England squad, that failed so badly in the last World Cup.
Now you can identify skill shortage, bad coaching and poor FA organisation as the key factors that hold the national side back in major competitions, and these are indeed a problem, but the biggest problem of all is roundly ignored.
-
I don't expect footballers to be paragons of virtue, but from what I can make out he appears to be a self-centered individual who abdicates any kind or responsibility for his behaviour. Similar traits that are present in many of the regular members of the England squad, that failed so badly in the last World Cup.
I think the issue is that from a young age they are treated like that. If a club thinks they're going to be a top player they'll allow them to get away with murder and give them everything they want, which then only gets worse once they break into the 1st team. So their formative years are spent without any responsibility and having their ego fed, is it any wonder they turn out as they do?
-
I don't expect footballers to be paragons of virtue, but from what I can make out he appears to be a self-centered individual who abdicates any kind or responsibility for his behaviour. Similar traits that are present in many of the regular members of the England squad, that failed so badly in the last World Cup.
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/cgo/lowres/cgon633l.jpg)
-
Rooney engineered a pay rise with his
'Im definately leaving' BS, low and behold everythings just fine with his already obscene wages doubled overnight.
You gotta hand it to him, he should be called Scrooge.
-
1. Rooney HAS signed for Real Madrid in January!.
2. The prostitute stuff etc was leaked by Man Utd as an intimidation tactic to make Rooney stay at the club. They threatened it before the world cup and it is why Rooney was dismal.