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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: spangley1812 on October 05, 2010, 07:13:16 PM
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I dont know if this is elsewhere but if it is please close thread
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2175882,00.html
Liverpool (a) is now Mon 06/12/10.......8.00pm ko
Spurs (h) is now Boxing Day @ 5.30pm ko
Chelsea (a) is now Sun 02/01/11........1.30pm ko
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This is why I didn't buy a season ticket this season!! Sick of games at stupid times on stupid days!!
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It's great for the away matches, but shit for the home!
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When was the last time we had a Christmas game at home that kicked off in daylight?
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The home game is a nitemare......5.30pm ko on Boxing day, there will be no public transport
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So WBA home is Saturday 3pm kickoff (11th Dec)?
Also ESPN haven't chosen any of our games for Dec...
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This is why I didn't buy a season ticket this season!! Sick of games at stupid times on stupid days!!
The home game is a nitemare......5.30pm ko on Boxing day, there will be no public transport
The only season ticket-relevant change is the Spurs game which has moved back a couple of hours and is still on the same day. Is it really going to make any difference?
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The only season ticket-relevant change is the Spurs game which has moved back a couple of hours and is still on the same day. Is it really going to make any difference?
It very likely is. Boxing Day is the most family-orientated fixture of the season and a 5.30 kick-off often buggers your whole day up.
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So WBA home is Saturday 3pm kickoff (11th Dec)?
Also ESPN haven't chosen any of our games for Dec...
As for the Baggies game I would say it is a 3.00pm ko
ESPN havnt chosen there Dec/Jan fixtures yet
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I want to know if they'll move the WBA game aswell, have the Police not moved it to a sunday kick off then?
Disappointed they've moved the Spurs game as like Dave I can't remember the last time we had a boxing day home game kicking off at 3pm.
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
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We do seem to be a popular choice on Boxing Day. An earlier kick-off would be more suitable to people who have family commitments. Even before Tv coverage an awful lot of Boxing Day games would start early for this very reason.
As for Public Transport, it's as rare as rocking horse shit on the 26th.
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Boxing Day, the game after or New Year's Day. When did we last kick off at home at 3pm? I honestly can't remember.
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Thanks Sky tv - you absolute wankers. That is me severly in the doghouse with the Missus now on Boxing Day.
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Being a non driver, I have no idea how i'll get to the Boxing day game, regardless of kick off time.
It's long sodding walk from B32 to B6!
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Boxing Day, the game after or New Year's Day. When did we last kick off at home at 3pm? I honestly can't remember.
I vaguely remember playing chelsea at 12 but I am not 100% sure it was boxing day
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I'm afraid they can stick the boxing day game, family comes first.
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Saw the Spurs game and instantly thought if anything that would be better for me. Then I thought it through and actually it won't be.
As for Dave's question, I'll have a punt on Charlton Athletic, 2-0, 26th Dec 1986.
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There was a 3pm kick-off at home a few years ago against Liverpool when we lost 2-1. I remember Schmeichel gifted them their first goal.
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Fucking boxing day moved again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bastards, bastards,bastards.
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As a result of the Liverpool game now being moved to a Monday night on Sky, we will now lose the game 2-1 after leading for 89 minutes.
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fook...thats two games Im not going. I waspreviously meeting mates up Liverpool to go to the game , theres no way I can go that night and the boxing day has messed up me up , as Im to my family in the evening..
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They have got to mess with our christmas and new year fixtures fcuked it up for a lot of people.
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How much money does the club get to show game? At least the boxing day one , the club could have said NO!! it fooks up peoples day or have club got no choice....
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The 5:30 ko is the worst of all of the TV kick offs - and to have that on Boxing day is f'in annoying - it eats in to the afternoon and the evening when making family plans. But then fans making plans with family and public transport (luckily I dont have this problem but feel for those that do) - anyway we are the last thing they worry about when they rearrange these things
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I dont think they have any choice. When do espn do there fixtures? I need to knwo when to take baggies off...
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12.00 pm would have at least been better than 5.30 pm....its a dreadful time and every football fan I speak to hates that time for K.O
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Being a non driver, I have no idea how i'll get to the Boxing day game, regardless of kick off time.
It's long sodding walk from B32 to B6!
Is there no one that does car share in your area Peter? I know its not the point but it would lessen the pain. Yes I agree the boxing day timing is a mare i never want to eat after getting home from those strange kick off times. So the whole family suffers.
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Just purchased half season ticket.First game ( apart from the 2 freebies) now can't go.Angry is not the word >:(
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Bit annoyed about the Liverpool one as I wanted to take my son this year and now its a school night! Not bothered about Spurs or Chelsea.
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Being a non driver, I have no idea how i'll get to the Boxing day game, regardless of kick off time.
It's long sodding walk from B32 to B6!
Is there no one that does car share in your area Peter? I know its not the point but it would lessen the pain. Yes I agree the boxing day timing is a mare i never want to eat after getting home from those strange kick off times. So the whole family suffers.
Also, don't they run extra trains/buses on match days? Or do they not do it on Bixing Days??
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When the fixture list for the forthcoming season was published on the 26th June it showed that of the 19 games to be played at home in the Premiership, 15 of them would start at the traditional time of 15:00 on a Saturday.
The same list published 16 days later gave out the information that those 15 games had been reduced to only ten. The other nine games were to be the usual mish-mash of Sunday games, evening games, and sundry other games to be played at some time or date that might or might not be convenient, or even possible, for the customer to attend.
Also there was no doubt that when the various Cup games had been fitted into the schedule still more of these 15:00 Saturday games would disappear, and even more when Sky made some last minute changes.
Supporters are only welcome because we provide the atmosphere, the noise, the passion. All the rest is absolute bollocks.
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I've just, out of interest, checked on the Trainline website to see if I would be able to get to the Spurs game. It would be a long day!
Depart Huddersfield 07.35 Arrive Euston 14.53 (7 hours 18 minutes).
Depart St Pancras 20.30 Arrive Huddersfield 05.27 (8 hours 57 minutes)
For the 380 mile round trip, that averages at 23mph! I reckon I know people who could do it faster by pushbike.
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I've just, out of interest, checked on the Trainline website to see if I would be able to get to the Spurs game. It would be a long day!
Depart Huddersfield 07.35 Arrive Euston 14.53 (7 hours 18 minutes).
Depart St Pancras 20.30 Arrive Huddersfield 05.27 (8 hours 57 minutes)
For the 380 mile round trip, that averages at 23mph! I reckon I know people who could do it faster by pushbike.
We're at home.
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I've just, out of interest, checked on the Trainline website to see if I would be able to get to the Spurs game. It would be a long day!
Depart Huddersfield 07.35 Arrive Euston 14.53 (7 hours 18 minutes).
Depart St Pancras 20.30 Arrive Huddersfield 05.27 (8 hours 57 minutes)
For the 380 mile round trip, that averages at 23mph! I reckon I know people who could do it faster by pushbike.
We're at home.
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good rant, you tell 'em Pete!
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I've just, out of interest, checked on the Trainline website to see if I would be able to get to the Spurs game. It would be a long day!
Depart Huddersfield 07.35 Arrive Euston 14.53 (7 hours 18 minutes).
Depart St Pancras 20.30 Arrive Huddersfield 05.27 (8 hours 57 minutes)
For the 380 mile round trip, that averages at 23mph! I reckon I know people who could do it faster by pushbike.
We're at home.
So we are. That's a very good point.
*shuffles from thread*
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Was the last one Man Utd in 1989?
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Great !! That will mean a 3pm start and home by 9.30pm-ish
cheers SKY you tossers.
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Was the last one Man Utd in 1989?
That game crossed my mind as well. We won 3-0 if i remember rightly. Surely we've played a home game at 3pm on Boxing Day since then?
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You can't buy a season ticket and then moan about the fixtures changing, thats the deal, and it has been for quite a few years.
If you feel undervalued, treated with disdain, that your views are ignored and that sponsors, Sky subscribers, players and money are all put first, you'd be right.
Do what I did 5 years ago.
Walk away.
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Anybody got some tipex for me diary ?
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The game has changed, a few years ago TV money was a bonus, now it is the bread and butter of a football franchise, sorry club. The supporters attending games are now the bonus, if AVFC get 20,000 for a TV game, they have still made more money than getting 42,000 for a non televised game.
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Was the last one Man Utd in 1989?
That game crossed my mind as well. We won 3-0 if i remember rightly. Surely we've played a home game at 3pm on Boxing Day since then?
Was Chelsea in 1996 a Boxing Day game? Zola got two I think, but that might have been another time.
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Was the last one Man Utd in 1989?
That game crossed my mind as well. We won 3-0 if i remember rightly. Surely we've played a home game at 3pm on Boxing Day since then?
The last I remember attending was v Liverpool in 2001 ish I think. Schmeichel did one of his quick counter attacking throws which hit the ref on the back and Liverpool scored from the ensuing confusion. He had also ballsed up with a similar throw at Southampton early that season which allowed them to equalise just before half time - he was still looking for Giggsy with his clearances but was finding Hadji instead. We also lost at home to Man U 1-0 when De Bilde was on loan but I think that may have been the previous season. I can't remember a daylight kick off since then.
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They always have to piss around with our Christmas games don't they.
That's another one in the "I won't be going to that then" column.
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That's my Dad's Christmas present sorted. He can have my ticket.
Cheers Sky!
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Being a non driver, I have no idea how i'll get to the Boxing day game, regardless of kick off time.
It's long sodding walk from B32 to B6!
Is there no one that does car share in your area Peter? I know its not the point but it would lessen the pain. Yes I agree the boxing day timing is a mare i never want to eat after getting home from those strange kick off times. So the whole family suffers.
Unfortunately, I know no one from round here who drives. Anyone I used to go to the game with either uses buses/trains, lives the other side of the city, or don't go anymore.
So I'll either
A) pray there is some half decent form of public transport on the day.
B) Do a begging post nearer the time and see if anyone drives from around here (or passes Frankley service station) and would be kind enough to give me a lift.
or C) Bugger off out of Brum and to some friends for a few days like I usually do over Xmas and watch it on the TV. And give my ST to someone who drives for that game.
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I go to about 3 to 5 away games a season, this year I had Stoke at #1 priority and Liverpool were #3. The bastards have done it to me again. I can't even get a train back to Brum and stop with family let alone get back to Leicester and I'd have to take a half day's holiday just to get there.
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
Yep and even worse for Spurs fans.
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There's only one 3 o'clock Saturday home game in the next three months - and that's against West Bromwich soddin' Albion, so Sky'll probably move that as well.
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Thanks Sky tv - you absolute wankers. That is me severly in the doghouse with the Missus now on Boxing Day.
You're not the only one mate. I'll get an ear bending from the other half, to the point I may consider giving my ticket away.
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Bit annoyed about the Liverpool one as I wanted to take my son this year and now its a school night! Not bothered about Spurs or Chelsea.
I am in the same situation - he now wants to go to chelsea !
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I've just, out of interest, checked on the Trainline website to see if I would be able to get to the Spurs game. It would be a long day!
Depart Huddersfield 07.35 Arrive Euston 14.53 (7 hours 18 minutes).
Depart St Pancras 20.30 Arrive Huddersfield 05.27 (8 hours 57 minutes)
For the 380 mile round trip, that averages at 23mph! I reckon I know people who could do it faster by pushbike.
That's a corker of a post considering we played Spurs away at the weekend duhhhhh. (wink)
I can't believe WM police won't move the Baggies game to a midday kick off. Would be nice for them to let us know then.
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The home game is a nitemare......5.30pm ko on Boxing day, there will be no public transport
I might have dreamt this, but I'm sure there was (for the first time in years) public transport last Boxing Day.
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
Yep and even worse for Spurs fans.
Every Cloud and all that.
There's only one 3 o'clock Saturday home game in the next three months - and that's against West Bromwich soddin' Albion, so Sky'll probably move that as well.
That for me is a shitter... I like matches on Saturdays and 3PM is just about the most convenient kickoff time for me in terms of travel. I was hoping to get down once between now and the end of the year.
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The home game is a nitemare......5.30pm ko on Boxing day, there will be no public transport
I might have dreamt this, but I'm sure there was (for the first time in years) public transport last Boxing Day.
There was a very, very limited Bus service with buses every hour only on the main routes but that stopped about 5.00/6.00pm
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Just purchased half season ticket.First game ( apart from the 2 freebies) now can't go.Angry is not the word >:(
Oh have they started selling them now? How much and for how many games was it mate?
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
Yep and even worse for Spurs fans.
Bollocks to them.
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Just purchased half season ticket.First game ( apart from the 2 freebies) now can't go.Angry is not the word >:(
Oh have they started selling them now? How much and for how many games was it mate?
Here is a link iro half season tickets.............
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2170865,00.html
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Being a non driver, I have no idea how i'll get to the Boxing day game, regardless of kick off time.
It's long sodding walk from B32 to B6!
Come on you now have more time to get there!
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
Yep and even worse for Spurs fans.
Bollocks to them.
And that, in three words, is why we get treated like this.
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ANYONE any ideas on when ESPN announce their games for Dec/Jan ?
Desperate to know if Baggies Sat 3 pm kick off will move for my work schedules
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
Yep and even worse for Spurs fans.
Bollocks to them.
It's that attitude that has allowed TV to fuck us around as they fit.
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
Yep and even worse for Spurs fans.
Bollocks to them.
It's that attitude that has allowed TV to fuck us around as they fit.
Doin't be silly. Its the fact that Sky have bought the game that allows them to fuck us around as they see fit, not whether we give a shit about Spurs' fans travel plans on Boxing Day. Frankly, that idea is absurd.
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
Yep and even worse for Spurs fans.
Bollocks to them.
[Tounge in cheek] Well I can still make 5:30pm so bollocks to all the Villa fans who can't [/Tounge in Cheek]
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Just checked with the missus and I definitely cant go (unless I want to 'ruin Christmas'). I dont know what is more worrying, the fact that she has laid down the law or the fact that I'm not really that bothered about missing it.
Is this the end of my lifelong love affair with the Villa?
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Is this the end of my lifelong love affair with the Villa
Don't be hasty. I'd get rid of the missus first and see how things look up after that
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Just checked with the missus and I definitely cant go (unless I want to 'ruin Christmas'). I dont know what is more worrying, the fact that she has laid down the law or the fact that I'm not really that bothered about missing it.
Is this the end of my lifelong love affair with the Villa?
Ruin Christmas? Christmas was over the day before the match.
I'm with Chico, time to get a new wife.
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Just checked with the missus and I definitely cant go (unless I want to 'ruin Christmas'). I dont know what is more worrying, the fact that she has laid down the law or the fact that I'm not really that bothered about missing it.
Is this the end of my lifelong love affair with the Villa?
More worrying is the fact that you don't seem to have any testicles.
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
Yep and even worse for Spurs fans.
Bollocks to them.
It's that attitude that has allowed TV to fuck us around as they fit.
Doin't be silly. Its the fact that Sky have bought the game that allows them to fuck us around as they see fit, not whether we give a shit about Spurs' fans travel plans on Boxing Day. Frankly, that idea is absurd.
Once again you show your remarkable talent for missing the point.
If, as fans, we showed some collective responsibility we could try to do something about it. However, the reality is that the only time any of us give a shit is when it impacts on us personally. It isn't Sky's fault, they're paying the money but it is the PL that carve up the amount of games on offer causing them to be shifted. If the PL were less greedy they could limit the number of games televised. The PL is made up of the clubs in it. If the fans of those clubs worked together to boycott merchandising, pies, programmes etc or refused to attend games on a Monday night for example then the clubs would soon change their tune.
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Added to the belief that our supporters (and I've no doubt it's the same at other clubs) are somehow better than the scum/gloryhunters/wankers everywhere else.
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Just checked with the missus and I definitely cant go (unless I want to 'ruin Christmas'). I dont know what is more worrying, the fact that she has laid down the law or the fact that I'm not really that bothered about missing it.
Is this the end of my lifelong love affair with the Villa?
Fucking hell, get that thumb dislodged from the crown of your head.
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Dave and Chris agreeing...crikey.
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Just checked with the missus and I definitely cant go (unless I want to 'ruin Christmas'). I dont know what is more worrying, the fact that she has laid down the law or the fact that I'm not really that bothered about missing it.
Is this the end of my lifelong love affair with the Villa?
No need to ask who wears the trousers in your house. Or who irons them.
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Top Cat has to decide whether she'll be going or not as she's my designated driver! If she doesn't go, I'll struggle to make it.
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Can't remember which season, a few years back we went out for lunch on Christmas Day at a hotel. There was a diner on his own. Somehow or other we got talking and it turned out he was a Spurs fan who couldn't drive, and was going to see Spurs play Villa on Boxing Day - he was too worried to risk travelling by coach in case there were traffic/mechanical problems. He had a family, who he'd left alone in London to spend Christmas in Birmingham to ensure he didn't miss the game [think Stan Collymore scored a hat trick].
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
Yep and even worse for Spurs fans.
Bollocks to them.
It's that attitude that has allowed TV to fuck us around as they fit.
Doin't be silly. Its the fact that Sky have bought the game that allows them to fuck us around as they see fit, not whether we give a shit about Spurs' fans travel plans on Boxing Day. Frankly, that idea is absurd.
Once again you show your remarkable talent for missing the point.
If, as fans, we showed some collective responsibility we could try to do something about it. However, the reality is that the only time any of us give a shit is when it impacts on us personally. It isn't Sky's fault, they're paying the money but it is the PL that carve up the amount of games on offer causing them to be shifted. If the PL were less greedy they could limit the number of games televised. The PL is made up of the clubs in it. If the fans of those clubs worked together to boycott merchandising, pies, programmes etc or refused to attend games on a Monday night for example then the clubs would soon change their tune.
Coming from someone with your track record in appraising our managers that is some feat for me to miss a point.
As if Sky give a shit what we think. If they game went ahead at 3pm and no-one turned up the game would still be shown. We're there to help sell the Premiership experience and not because of how we contribute to Sky's showing of the game.
as for missing the point, again, I can only take you to your even more absurd line in the above paragraph, " It isn't Sky's fault..." Bloody hell Chris, talk about not knowing arses from elbows. But that's okay I'll keep missing the point and you can keep filling me in.
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If the fans of those clubs worked together to boycott merchandising, pies, programmes etc or refused to attend games on a Monday night for example then the clubs would soon change their tune.
Really? I seem to remember asking a while back who Sky's sponsors were so that I could stop contributing to their products, in order to just do my own thing against fixtures being pissed about. All you wanted to do was bang on about how it wouldn't work, yet now you're talking about a boycott yourself?
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That Spurs move is fookin shit.
Yep and even worse for Spurs fans.
Bollocks to them.
It's that attitude that has allowed TV to fuck us around as they fit.
Doin't be silly. Its the fact that Sky have bought the game that allows them to fuck us around as they see fit, not whether we give a shit about Spurs' fans travel plans on Boxing Day. Frankly, that idea is absurd.
Once again you show your remarkable talent for missing the point.
If, as fans, we showed some collective responsibility we could try to do something about it. However, the reality is that the only time any of us give a shit is when it impacts on us personally. It isn't Sky's fault, they're paying the money but it is the PL that carve up the amount of games on offer causing them to be shifted. If the PL were less greedy they could limit the number of games televised. The PL is made up of the clubs in it. If the fans of those clubs worked together to boycott merchandising, pies, programmes etc or refused to attend games on a Monday night for example then the clubs would soon change their tune.
Coming from someone with your track record in appraising our managers that is some feat for me to miss a point.
As if Sky give a shit what we think. If they game went ahead at 3pm and no-one turned up the game would still be shown. We're there to help sell the Premiership experience and not because of how we contribute to Sky's showing of the game.
as for missing the point, again, I can only take you to your even more absurd line in the above paragraph, " It isn't Sky's fault..." Bloody hell Chris, talk about not knowing arses from elbows. But that's okay I'll keep missing the point and you can keep filling me in.
I'm never sure if you really are thick or if it's all just an act.
It's always convenient to blame everything on Sky, but they're just the punter it is the PL that is whoring itself. Of course the sums that they offer makes it difficult to say no; difficult but not impossible.
They, and by they I mean the clubs, want the money that Sky put on the table so have steadily increased the number of games they're willing to sell. It doesn't inconvenience people like you, who rarely go, so you don't care and are happy to laugh at fans of other clubs who are put out.
It is the PL who control the game and ultimately it is their responsibility that so many games are moved to satisfy (a) their greed and (b) stay at home fans who want wall to wall football to watch.
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If the fans of those clubs worked together to boycott merchandising, pies, programmes etc or refused to attend games on a Monday night for example then the clubs would soon change their tune.
Really? I seem to remember asking a while back who Sky's sponsors were so that I could stop contributing to their products, in order to just do my own thing against fixtures being pissed about. All you wanted to do was bang on about how it wouldn't work, yet now you're talking about a boycott yourself?
Sometimes you have to shift an argument to fit a post. Surprised that Chris has succumbed to it mind.
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If the fans of those clubs worked together to boycott merchandising, pies, programmes etc or refused to attend games on a Monday night for example then the clubs would soon change their tune.
Really? I seem to remember asking a while back who Sky's sponsors were so that I could stop contributing to their products, in order to just do my own thing against fixtures being pissed about. All you wanted to do was bang on about how it wouldn't work, yet now you're talking about a boycott yourself?
I'm talking about putting pressure on the clubs collectively, not Sky. It will never happen, we're all only concerned about it when it imapcts on us personally.
As I've explained twice now, although Sky are putting up the money I say it is the PL who are taking it and causing/allowing games to be moved.
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Okay, I'm thick. I can live with that. I rarely go, yes another point I can't argue against. Can't remember where I was laughing at other fans though. But I'm sure the odd inaccuracy shouldn't stop you in your tracks.
As for the rest of your Sky stuff you're now just arguing on their behalf for the sake of it and I don't think you believe in it either. Well Chris Harte already showed up your contradiction in his post so it proves that you don't believe a word of what you're posting.
If you do, and genuinely believe that Sky don't change games as and when they and they alone choose then fair enough. You bizarre gentleman you.
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If the fans of those clubs worked together to boycott merchandising, pies, programmes etc or refused to attend games on a Monday night for example then the clubs would soon change their tune.
Really? I seem to remember asking a while back who Sky's sponsors were so that I could stop contributing to their products, in order to just do my own thing against fixtures being pissed about. All you wanted to do was bang on about how it wouldn't work, yet now you're talking about a boycott yourself?
I'm talking about putting pressure on the clubs collectively, not Sky. It will never happen, we're all only concerned about it when it imapcts on us personally.
As I've explained twice now, although Sky are putting up the money I say it is the PL who are taking it and causing/allowing games to be moved.
The PL sign a contract with Sky who offered the most money. They can do what they like with kick-off times thereafter. Same as anyone who won the contract to the rights to show the majority of PL games live. You haven't got an argument you're just having one.
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Okay, I'm thick. I can live with that. I rarely go, yes another point I can't argue against. Can't remember where I was laughing at other fans though. But I'm sure the odd inaccuracy shouldn't stop you in your tracks.
As for the rest of your Sky stuff you're now just arguing on their behalf for the sake of it and I don't think you believe in it either. Well Chris Harte already showed up your contradiction in his post so it proves that you don't believe a word of what you're posting.
If you do, and genuinely believe that Sky don't change games as and when they and they alone choose then fair enough. You bizarre gentleman you.
Do you really not know how it works?
The PL offer a number of packages of games for sale each time the contracts are renewed. That's why we get a certain number of Saturday lunchtime games, Saturday evening games, Sunday lunchtime games, Sunday afternoon games and Monday night game. Once those packages are sold the TV companies get to pick which ones they want with some agreed criteria around guaranteeing each side x number of appearances and that their will be other moves due to cup ties etc.
If they cared more for the fans who attend games and less about the money then they'd sell fewer pacakges and less of us would be inconvenienced.
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If the fans of those clubs worked together to boycott merchandising, pies, programmes etc or refused to attend games on a Monday night for example then the clubs would soon change their tune.
Really? I seem to remember asking a while back who Sky's sponsors were so that I could stop contributing to their products, in order to just do my own thing against fixtures being pissed about. All you wanted to do was bang on about how it wouldn't work, yet now you're talking about a boycott yourself?
I'm talking about putting pressure on the clubs collectively, not Sky. It will never happen, we're all only concerned about it when it imapcts on us personally.
As I've explained twice now, although Sky are putting up the money I say it is the PL who are taking it and causing/allowing games to be moved.
The PL sign a contract with Sky who offered the most money. They can do what they like with kick-off times thereafter. Same as anyone who won the contract to the rights to show the majority of PL games live. You haven't got an argument you're just having one.
No, they can't.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how it works but as usual it doesn't stop you from spouting.
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Almost there Chris. The only stipulation is that there no games broadcast live in the UK at 3pm on a Saturday. As for the other slots that's for Sky to fill as they see fit. They won't put games on during the week at 2pm for obvious reasons and won't saturate their own market by putting games on live every night.
The reasons games rarely get moved into midweek to be shown live is a totally different issue altogether and is to do with fixture pile-ups, Cup games, internationals, and not wanting wall-to-wall football damaging the product.
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The games are sold in time slot packages by the PL. Sky (or ESPN for that matter) do not decide them.
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I think we all know what the PL and Sky think of us fans. "Bollocks to them" was probably the phrase that was used.
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The games are sold in time slot packages by the PL. Sky (or ESPN for that matter) do not decide them.
So who moved the Villa kick-off time?
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The games are sold in time slot packages by the PL. Sky (or ESPN for that matter) do not decide them.
So who moved the Villa kick-off time?
One of the packages includes a Boxing Day game and forces the kick off to be moved as the PL don't want televised games shown at the same time as the others.
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Any news on when ESPN games for Dec are announced ?
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Nothing on the ESPN website today.......................
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Any news on when ESPN games for Dec are announced ?
How many games do ESPN get? There are a few December games here (http://www.premierleague.com/page/UKAndIreland/0,,12306,00.html)
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Boxing Day, the game after or New Year's Day. When did we last kick off at home at 3pm? I honestly can't remember.
A 1-0 win over Blackburn on 1st Jan 2005 apparently.
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Any news on when ESPN games for Dec are announced ?
How many games do ESPN get? There are a few December games here (http://www.premierleague.com/page/UKAndIreland/0,,12306,00.html)
Looks like all of them announced till new year for ESPN and sky...3pm on a Sat for Baggies it is then
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ESPN are costing me much needed energy and hassle as I kill myself getting to the Town Hall on Saturday to see Stewart Lee. Tv football schedules. I hate them.
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Any news on when ESPN games for Dec are announced ?
How many games do ESPN get? There are a few December games here (http://www.premierleague.com/page/UKAndIreland/0,,12306,00.html)
Looks like all of them announced till new year for ESPN and sky...3pm on a Sat for Baggies it is then
I hope so, but won't the police ask for the KO time to be changed?
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I hope so, but won't the police ask for the KO time to be changed?
You'd have thought so but wouldn't they have done it by now if that was the case?
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Do you reckon that home game against the Albion on the 11th December will stay at 3 o' clock?
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Bollocks...just noticed the Liverpool game is now on the night I go to watch Belle & Sebastian. Thank-you Sky!
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Bollocks...just noticed the Liverpool game is now on the night I go to watch Belle & Sebastian. Thank-you Sky!
L'Pool are also charging us £41. Being as it's on the tellybox on a Monday night, i can't see us selling that one out somehow.