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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on September 28, 2010, 11:48:05 AM
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Has David O'Leary challenged Gerard Houllier to try and beat his record of mentioning their previous Premier League team in interviews when managing Aston Villa?
I lost count the amount of times DOL felt the need to mention Leeds when he should've been speaking about Villa and now, from the interviews thus far, Houllier is going down the same path with Liverpool.
"It was practically a Liverpool goal..." was the latest reference.
I know it's the winning that matters, and from that point of view we can have no complaints, but I really hope he stops with the references to Liverpool in his interviews. We don't need to hear it, he's manager of Villa, not Liverpool.
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Has David O'Leary challenged Gerard Houllier to try and beat his record of mentioning their previous Premier League team in interviews when managing Aston Villa?
I lost count the amount of times DOL felt the need to mention Leeds when he should've been speaking about Villa and now, from the interviews thus far, Houllier is going down the same path with Liverpool.
"It was practically a Liverpool goal..." was the latest reference.
I know it's the winning that matters, and from that point of view we can have no complaints, but I really hope he stops with the references to Liverpool in his interviews. We don't need to hear it, he's manager of Villa, not Liverpool.
This was covered in the post match thread. The reporter mentioned that Warnock and Heskey played for Houllier at Liverpool so he made a light hearted comment. The problem is the reporters will not stop mentioning it. If they stopped I'm sure Houllier would as well.
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It really doesn't bother me one bit.He talks about Lyon too,he's bound to.He's only just starting out with us.Also being back in the PL is bound to provoke memories
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We could've had Curbishley banging on about Charlton. Get over it.
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And my wife is still friends with her last ex-boyfriend, twelve years after we got married. Nothing a can of petrol and a box of matches won't fix
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Like with DOL, it'll only be an issue if we're not winning!
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Like with DOL, it'll only be an issue if we're not winning!
I was just about to edit my post to say the same ;)
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Did Mon ever mention his time at Celtic or Leicester CCBB I wonder ?
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Did Mon ever mention his time at Celtic or Leicester CCBB I wonder ?
He didn't need to, we had plenty to remind us.
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It's only natural that journos use Liverpool as a Ged reference point. He was last managing here six years ago for that club. They haven't had anything to go on inbetween since your average English fan couldn't give a cack about Lyon. The Red Scouse references will stop in a few weeks.
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Some people just want to be offended.
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Some people just want to be offended.
how very dare you
/flounce
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Mentioning Leeds was the least of DOL's crimes in my eyes.
Holding the club and it's supporters in utter contempt throughout his reign was, and still is, unforgiveable. To compare the two is a huge insult to Houllier, who, even at this early stage comes across as respectfull and dignified.
He's certainly no DOL.
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So we don't wont him to make the League cup his first trophy with us as he might have to compare the similaraties to 10 years ago with the team too offensive to keep mentioning?
Good luck Burnley then!!!
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David O'Leary appeared to deliberately set out to annoy Villa fans at every opportunity. Ged's relevant reference was hardly in the same league. Let it go.
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Gordon Strachan has just been on SSN. He said his Middlesborough players are an "Honest bunch of lads" . Bye bye ginger bollocks.
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If he keeps winning games he can turn up to our post match interviews wearing a Liverpool top for all i care
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If he keeps winning games he can turn up to our post match interviews wearing a Liverpool top for all i care
Singing 'You'll never walk alone', holding a 'Justice for the 96' placard in one hand and a 'Built by Shanks, destroyed by Yanks' sign in the other.
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If he keeps winning games he can turn up to our post match interviews wearing a Liverpool top for all i care
Singing 'You'll never walk alone', holding a 'Justice for the 96' placard in one hand and a 'Built by Shanks, destroyed by Yanks' sign in the other.
wearing a wooley hat with the slogan 'when things are bleak and getting shitty, i look in my heart and find self pity'
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If he keeps winning games he can turn up to our post match interviews wearing a Liverpool top for all i care
Singing 'You'll never walk alone', holding a 'Justice for the 96' placard in one hand and a 'Built by Shanks, destroyed by Yanks' sign in the other.
wearing a wooley hat with the slogan 'when things are bleak and getting shitty, i look in my heart and find self pity'
Shaking a bucket for `Hillsborough' and then vanishing
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Gordon Strachan has just been on SSN. He said his Middlesborough players are an "Honest bunch of lads" . Bye bye ginger bollocks.
"Honest bunch of lads" is standard football manager speak for "not good enough to compete".
I like Strachan.
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Saying "calm down la".
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He can steal my hubcaps as long as we keep winning
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Goodness me what is the point of this thread - please get behind GED and let's see how far he can take us- I couldn't care less what he did at Liverpool or him
mentioning them, all I care about is what he does for Aston villa and I have great faith in him.
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Sporting a black, curly wig, a false moustache and wearing a shell suit.
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Considering the fact that journalists keep asking him questions involving Liverpool it is normal I'd say.
As long as I'm happy with his work he can use whatever words he likes.
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As long as I'm happy with his work he can use whatever words he likes.
Oh yes, it's all you, you you with you isn't it.
As long as you're happy eh?
Pah.
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Move on folks there is no story here. No point in making a mountain.....
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He can steal my hubcaps as long as we keep winning
I`ve said before and I`ll say it again - no car thieves in Brum, London, Manchester, Leeds , Chipping Norton then?
You are all so 1980`s ;)
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Considering the fact that journalists keep asking him questions involving Liverpool it is normal I'd say.
That old big four journalist favourite, but yeah I agree with this.
As long as Whenever he's moved on there's a lot of the glory years of Villa references.
DOL treated Leeds like the girl that broke his heart and us as the rebound slag. Do they have land mines in his new neck of the woods?
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He can steal my hubcaps as long as we keep winning
I`ve said before and I`ll say it again - no car thieves in Brum, London, Manchester, Leeds , Chipping Norton then?
You are all so 1980`s ;)
There are, however most are travelling crims from scouseland and instead of nicking your hub-caps they are breaking into your house to nick the car keys then steal the car off the drive.
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I couldn't care a less what he says about Liverpool, he's started very nicely at Villa and I'm happy he is at the club.
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I`ve said before and I`ll say it again - no car thieves in Brum, London, Manchester, Leeds , Chipping Norton then?
You are all so 1980`s ;)
I agree VCTM this Scouser = Theif stuff is so boring. From 2003 to 2006 I spent most of my working week in Liverpool staying overnight. My car used be to parked in all sorts of places in the City centre. A couple of times I even forgot to lock it and on one occasion left it overnight with a window open. To the credit of the City nothing untoward happened. In that period I stayed at the Three Way House Hotel ,home of the famous Pudding Club in the heart of Cotswolds, for a traing course and on the first night my car was broken into and they made a real mess of it!
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My car used be to parked in all sorts of places in the City centre. A couple of times I even forgot to lock it and on one occasion left it overnight with a window open. To the credit of the City nothing untoward happened.
I used to have a car like that
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The only car I've ever had stolen ended up burnt out in Kensington.
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Not only are all scousers not thieves, they're also not on the dole, which makes the "sign on, sign on" song cringemaking both for its ancientness and the irony of singing this when Birmingham has a higher level of unemployment than Liverpool.
Having said that, though, I fucking hate the Scouse accent. Scousers and Mancs - accents that, when I hear them on someone, automatically make me think they want to knife me.
There. A massive generalisation. I was doing so well, too.
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My good lady went to University in Liverpool. She was burgled five times in three years but on the bright side drugs were very easy to come by. You cant have it all.
I loved Liverpool, it was great
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The very strong versions of the accents from most large cities are not very pleasant to the outsider, to my ears anyway.
On the other hand, the lighter versions sound better than a posh or "received" accent, to me anyway.
The Birmingham accent, for all that it is accused of getting every vowel sound wrong, at least manages to pronounce most if not all of the consonants, and has a pleasing mellifluous lilt.
As for the city of Liverpool, I have always liked it, and I have had some great times there.
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The Birmingham accent, for all that it is accused of getting every vowel sound wrong, at least manages to pronounce most if not all of the consonants, and has a pleasing mellifluous lilt.
Most obliged......I think.
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And my wife is still friends with her last ex-boyfriend, twelve years after we got married. Nothing a can of petrol and a box of matches won't fix
He can't compete with the Damon Greens of this world.
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An honest bunch of pyromaniacs.
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I think GH and DOL are quite close friends actually. I remember them being last them they were both managing in the PL.
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Some people just want to be offended.
Yeah its usually can carew be bothered
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I think GH and DOL are quite close friends actually
When Houlier first had his heart scare I think Liverpool were playing O'Leary's leeds.
O'Leary, always one for good self-publicity, telling the story of how he sent Houlier a set of golf clubs, telling Houlier to take up golf for relaxation.
I bet O'Leary's playing plenty of golf at the moment....
Anyway, I think they are good friends
And on the subject of Liverpool, I've spent many a lost weekend, off me chops in Garston, Dingle and Tocky. Great place
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Houllier's comment about Liverpool bothered me none but I'm now starting to wonder if he's going to mention them with every interview:
From Soccernet:
But Houllier admits the form of Carlos Cuellar as his replacement has given him a welcome selection headache.
He said: "That sort of headache I can take. A bad headache is when you've not got enough players. Carlos looked strong and solid and reminded me of Jamie Carragher. He goes for everything in the air and is brave."
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I found O`Leary highly offensive on almost all levels, not particularly because of what he said about his previous clubs.
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I wonder what DOL would have achieved given the same money as MON?
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I wonder what DOL would have achieved given the same money as MON?
Could have afforded Seth Johnson.
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To be fair to O'Leary (*punches self in face*), he wasn't too bad in the transfer market.
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To be fair to O'Leary (*punches self in face*), he wasn't too bad in the transfer market.
Are you OK? We are here for you
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To be fair to O'Leary (*punches self in face*), he wasn't too bad in the transfer market.
Are you OK? We are here for you
I have been doing a lot of miles. I think it's caught up with me.
Danny Mills was on 5 Live last week and they got onto the subject of O'Leary, he pretty much said that the players all thought O'Leary was a wanker and they played well in spite of him, and all the 'babies' stuff got right on their tits.
When pushed on why they were relatively successful under him, he just said that he bought good players.
It seems to be his only redeeming factor.
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He did buy good players at Leeds. He bought a lot of players, some of them turned out very well. Others - well, it's easy to blame Ridsdale, because Ridsdale's a prat. O'Leary always seems to have someone to blame for things that don't work out.
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He did make some decent signings for us on a fairly tight budget. If he could have been just half the wanker that he is, then he may have made a decent manager.
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He did make some decent signings for us on a fairly tight budget.
OK, this is where I hop out of your canoe and start swimming for the shore. Good luck
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He did make some decent signings for us on a fairly tight budget.
OK, this is where I hop out of your canoe and start swimming for the shore. Good luck
If you choose to forget the joys Milan Baros's powerhouse displays bought to us then more fool you.
Fickle bastard.
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Did DOL sign Laursen?
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Laursen and Solano were very good signings by anybodies standards
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He did make some decent signings for us on a fairly tight budget.
OK, this is where I hop out of your canoe and start swimming for the shore. Good luck
If you choose to forget the joys Milan Baros's powerhouse displays bought to us then more fool you.
Fickle bastard.
Mind you most of us were pretty happy when Baros signed.
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He did make some decent signings for us on a fairly tight budget.
OK, this is where I hop out of your canoe and start swimming for the shore. Good luck
If you choose to forget the joys Milan Baros's powerhouse displays bought to us then more fool you.
Fickle bastard.
Mind you most of us were pretty happy when Baros signed.
I genuinly thought he was gonna be a great signing for us, i'll never forget his last game at home to Watford when he was boo'ed off
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Mind you most of us were pretty happy when Baros signed
For every Milan Baros there's 2 Djembas
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He did make some decent signings for us on a fairly tight budget.
OK, this is where I hop out of your canoe and start swimming for the shore. Good luck
If you choose to forget the joys Milan Baros's powerhouse displays bought to us then more fool you.
Fickle bastard.
Mind you most of us were pretty happy when Baros signed.
Even more chuffed when we got Kinsella.
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He did make some decent signings for us on a fairly tight budget.
OK, this is where I hop out of your canoe and start swimming for the shore. Good luck
If you choose to forget the joys Milan Baros's powerhouse displays bought to us then more fool you.
Fickle bastard.
Mind you most of us were pretty happy when Baros signed.
Even more chuffed when we got Kinsella.
Who wasn't a DOL signing.
I'd just like to make it clear that I'm in no way whatsoever defending the pug nosed twat.
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He had a decent introduction to football management as youth coach at Leedzzz at then as assistant manager.
He placed his faith in the likes of Smith, Woodgate, Kewell, Harte, Robinson and all the rest of it and signed some very good players too (and some shite TBF). Getting to the latter stages of the UEFA Cup, The CL qualification and CL semi's he should take credit for. It wasn't simply a case of him inheriting a good side from Graham, turning up on match day sitting back and watching them win. Leeds under Graham were a dire, workmanlike side. Quite content to grind out a 0-0 rather than take the game to the opposition.
But even back then there were signs of the vanity, smugness and self satisfaction that we'd all come to know and love.
Sad thing is there is a decent football brain in there somewhere. He's just so utterly dislikeable. By his own players, fans, the works.
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Interesting thread.
Why I remember it were O'dreary's comments on Leeds were always how much better it was there and why dosen't Ellis give me 100m to spend like that nice Mr Ridsdale did.
Whereas GH just seems to mention Liverpool whenever he's comparing it to here, like players etc.
I don' think it's a major problem tbh.
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Houllier's comment about Liverpool bothered me none but I'm now starting to wonder if he's going to mention them with every interview:
From Soccernet:
But Houllier admits the form of Carlos Cuellar as his replacement has given him a welcome selection headache.
He said: "That sort of headache I can take. A bad headache is when you've not got enough players. Carlos looked strong and solid and reminded me of Jamie Carragher. He goes for everything in the air and is brave. Although Carlos has a better grasp of the English Language."
Don't you hate it when they don't print the whole quote. Luckily I found the last line and added it.
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Houllier's comment about Liverpool bothered me none but I'm now starting to wonder if he's going to mention them with every interview:
From Soccernet:
But Houllier admits the form of Carlos Cuellar as his replacement has given him a welcome selection headache.
He said: "That sort of headache I can take. A bad headache is when you've not got enough players. Carlos looked strong and solid and reminded me of Jamie Carragher. He goes for everything in the air and is brave."
He certainly seems to go out of his way to mention Liverpool whenever given the chance. It would have been much more natural if he had said "Carlos looked strong and solid and reminded me of a player I've managed previously". No-one would have wondered which previous player he actually refered to.
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I guess it's an immediate point of reference, his last experience of English football colours his thinking somewhat and so in giving examples he draws on what he knows here, rather than French scenarios.
Fine for a week or so, but I think quite a few will tire of it if it persists.
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Ive looked back at the rushes and GH was clearly misquoted. He never compared Carlos to Jamie Carragher - he said he reminded him of Jim Callaghan.