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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Bad English on September 24, 2010, 08:04:58 PM

Title: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa (Now signed)
Post by: Bad English on September 24, 2010, 08:04:58 PM
This morning the French 'FA' unanimously rejected Gérard Houllier's request for a 'sabbatical year' from his open-ended contract as French National Technical Director. Members of the executive board were a little miffed at this attempt to leave his job, without actually leaving it.

I've just been watching French telly and they have been scrolling the info that Pontius Pilate asked for a year out to manage the Villa (although he's earning 10 times what he was on at the FFF as DTN).

Link to article in French (http://www.goal.com/fr/news/1723/equipe-de-france/2010/09/24/2134859/fff-houllier-aurait-demand%C3%A9-une-ann%C3%A9e-sabbatique). Has this not been reported in Ingerlund? Was he just manoeuvring in order to be released, or was he angling to keep his position as DTN so he could bugger off if it didn't work out with the mighty Claret and Blue? 
Title: Re: Houillier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: eamonn on September 24, 2010, 08:16:40 PM
Hmm...and he's yet to sign a contract at Villa. Maybe it will be a ''rolling'' deal rather than a 3 year one as has been reported.
Title: Re: Houillier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: ronshirt on September 24, 2010, 08:18:35 PM
Thank you, BE. If Rene wants to be at Villa Park for just a year then what's not to like?
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: Bad English on September 24, 2010, 08:26:45 PM
What about the year after?
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 24, 2010, 08:29:39 PM
I'd be surprised if he only wants to be at Villa for a year.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: junxs on September 24, 2010, 08:29:49 PM
Sabba..? sabbat..? you what?
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: villainjock on September 24, 2010, 08:36:44 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gYUtBp__b7ZNI6zbS0kEzaLgrgBw   contract signed by the looks of it
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: Bad English on September 24, 2010, 08:43:39 PM
Good news for Houllier. And as the French FA aren't going to keep his job open for him, he'll be able to pledge undying commitment to Villa now.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: ronshirt on September 24, 2010, 09:05:08 PM
What about the year after?

Get someone better.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: Bad English on September 24, 2010, 09:08:27 PM
We haven't turned into Real Madrid, have we?
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: ronshirt on September 24, 2010, 09:12:47 PM
No. I was thinking about a job share, He could do it the first year and his wife could do it the second year.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 24, 2010, 09:14:30 PM
Ah good it's confirmed on Sky now he has signed a three year deal, happy with that.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: Bad English on September 24, 2010, 09:23:13 PM
He'll be happy with that too. He was trying to have a year out so that if it didn't work out at Villa, he could go back. This was refused and he has now signed for Villa. He will now have to resign from his job as DTN.

I assume this self-interested fannying about was why he couldn't take the reigns earlier and get Emule  to win us the games against Stoke and Bolton.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: ronshirt on September 24, 2010, 09:38:35 PM
I do like a happy ending.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: olaftab on September 24, 2010, 10:15:29 PM
No. I was thinking about a job share, He could do it the first year and his wife could do it the second year.

You mean Rene joins the French Foreign Legion and Edith takes over the  Villa Cafe?
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: olaftab on September 24, 2010, 10:17:36 PM
Ah good it's confirmed on Sky now he has signed a three year deal, happy with that.

Yes he did once the FFF burnt his boat :D
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: Californian Villain on September 24, 2010, 10:47:07 PM
I don't have a problem with Rene negotiating to get absolutely the best deal for himself - that's what any sensible person would do before accepting a new job. I'll be judging him on his performance alone, and he's had a great start.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on September 24, 2010, 11:00:02 PM
A knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork
That's the way we spell commitment, Ged?
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: MattW on September 24, 2010, 11:26:26 PM
I also feel that there is the touch of the temporary about Houllier at the moment. It feels a bit like a dalliance for him. Mentioning Liverpool in every press conference doesn't help. But I have been impressed by his presence in press conferences; he has gravitas. I'm hoping some early success will fully bed him in. He mentioned the Chelsea game in his most recent press conference - a decent result there would help.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: adrenachrome on September 24, 2010, 11:36:25 PM


When I was young, it seemed that life was so wonderful,
a miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical.
And all the birds in the trees, well they'd be singing so happily,
joyfully, playfully watching me.
But then they send me away to teach me how to be sensible,
logical, responsible, practical.
So when the Villa came in, I just wanted a sabbatical
clinical, intellectual, cynical.
There are times when all the world's asleep,
the questions run too deep
for such a simple man.
Won't you please, please tell me what we've learned
I know it sounds absurd
but please tell me who I am.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: not3bad on September 24, 2010, 11:45:14 PM
Shall we have kippers for breakfast
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 24, 2010, 11:49:46 PM
Hippies.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 24, 2010, 11:57:08 PM
After having been deeply riled by the whole press conference bollocks up, the lack of starting date, the wishy washiness about having to go back and do a few days for the FFF, I can honestly say I no longer give a fuck about this.

We finally have someone in charge who knows what he is doing, that'll do for me.

As for only thinking in timeframes of a year, that's all the former manager ever gave us, and even he flounced off with an hour's notice in the end, so I won't worry too much about it.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: Bad English on September 25, 2010, 08:21:16 AM
I have to admit I slept well, even though I was aware that Mr Weebles wobble but they don't fall down was initially considering us as a 'year out' until the FFF told him where to get off. But he got Emule to score and he even got a home shirt to hold up on the pitch. Now that's really some doing.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: kipeye on September 25, 2010, 10:06:46 AM
I would always take these stories with a large pinch of salt from the Holy See (topical). However it is nice to see you posting threads again BE-but I am a bit worried about the edit.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2010, 10:52:16 AM
He's signed (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/9032375.stm).
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa (Now signed)
Post by: Chris Smith on September 25, 2010, 11:02:25 AM
So Gerard saw the Villa job as the equivalent of pretending he was travelling while getting pissed for a year in Thailand on his dad's money.

Glad to see he saw sense and decided to get down to some serious work, hope he gets a first.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa (Now signed)
Post by: Bad English on September 25, 2010, 01:49:57 PM
I know he's signed but I'm still marvelling at his cheek in asking to have a year out from defining a nation's footballing policy just after its most disastrous World Cup ever, and with the intention of taking a lucrative contract at Aston Villa. But,as I say, if he manages to get Emule to start spanking them in, Dunney to lose a few kilos, Carlos to stop hoofing, Friedel to shout 'away' without making so much noise, and if he finds out where Salifou is hiding, then fair play to the scheming rapscallion.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa (Now signed)
Post by: Eigentor on September 25, 2010, 08:23:24 PM
I'm not taking notes, so maybe the relevant messages comes from different posters. Even so, it is a bit strange that we believe that Houllier is cheeky when apparently doing what he can to get the best possible deal for himself; but at the same time think that it would be commendable if Villa's board resorted to Cosa Nostra methods to get either Hiddink, Jol or Moyes as new manager.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa (Now signed)
Post by: garyfouroaks on September 27, 2010, 12:20:23 PM
After having been deeply riled by the whole press conference bollocks up, the lack of starting date, the wishy washiness about having to go back and do a few days for the FFF, I can honestly say I no longer give a fuck about this.

We finally have someone in charge who knows what he is doing, that'll do for me.

As for only thinking in timeframes of a year, that's all the former manager ever gave us, and even he flounced off with an hour's notice in the end, so I won't worry too much about it.

I totally agree with this.

Longevity of mangers is over rated. Dolly should have gone after his first year's sixth finish, JG after his first full season, and in all probability MON's work here was done.

After being deserted by MON the main requirement was stability and experience, it looks like we have that. Without having had the benefit of a summer transfer market if Ged can deliver a top eight finish, we can't complain.

And intriguingly, with Chelsea, Spurs and Man City out  of the League Cup, he might just surrpise us all - and irritate the hell out of MON!
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa (Now signed)
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 27, 2010, 12:25:45 PM
So he asked for the year off because it would have freed him up from his role immediately.

Good thinking
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa (Now signed)
Post by: Bad English on September 27, 2010, 06:23:54 PM
That is what the FFF president (who originally said Houllier could have a year out) is saying now that the FFF board has voted 'bollocks!' to his year off.
Title: Re: Houllier asked for a sabbatical year to manage Villa (Now signed)
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on September 28, 2010, 12:59:37 AM
Employment law simples ..............
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