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Title: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 18, 2010, 10:19:44 AM
Available Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 02:30:35 PM
VILLA: Friedel; L Young, Dunne, Collins, Warnock; Albrighton, Ireland, Petrov, Downing; A Young; Agbonlahor. Subs: Guzan, Carew, Heskey, Reo-Coker, Clark, Cuellar, Bannan.

BOLTON: Bogdan; Steinsson, Knight, O’Brien, Robinson; Petrov, Muamba, Holden, Chung-Young; Elmander, K Davies. Subs: Lainton, Taylor, M Davies, Klasnic, Ricketts, Moreno, Blake.

4-5-1 or even 4-1-4-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 02:33:04 PM
Nice Blackburn win as they over run us in Midfield. Nice to see KMac learning from his mistakes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 02:33:16 PM
Worried about centre mid, but come on you Villa boys!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 02:35:49 PM
This one will depend on how sharp Ireland is. If he, Ash, Stew and Stan can move off the ball properly and into space, then we may be able to keep the ball properly. Harsh on NRC, though, I thought he was one of our two or three best players in the last two matches.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 02:41:40 PM
Nice Blackburn win as they over run us in Midfield. Nice to see KMac learning from his mistakes.

Lucky for us then we're not playing the almighty Blackburn isn't it?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 18, 2010, 02:43:51 PM
Nice Blackburn win as they over run us in Midfield. Nice to see KMac learning from his mistakes.
Are you referring to the Carling Cup game on Wednesday ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 02:44:22 PM
They're playing a 4-2-3-1 there, so if Ash or Stew drops deep we could turn it into three against two in the centre of midfield. Muamba and Holden are very energetic and snappy, but if get the extra man in there we could overrun them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 02:48:22 PM
I think it will look like this

----------------------------------------------------FRIEDEL-------------------------------------------------------------

-----------------LUKE YOUNG------------COLLINS----------DUNNE-------------------WARNOCK-----------------

-----------------------------------------------------PETROV----------------------------------------------------------

--------------------ALBRIGHTON----------------------------------------------------DOWNING-----------------------
------------------------------------IRELAND---------------------------YOUNG-------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------GABBY------------------------------------------------------------------
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 18, 2010, 02:48:57 PM
I'd like to see Ash go back out wide to be honest,especially after that miss on Monday. Also,hasnt Carew got a good record against Bolton? Would prefer to see two up top,but what the f##k do i know!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 02:49:08 PM
Nice Blackburn win as they over run us in Midfield. Nice to see KMac learning from his mistakes.

Lucky for us then we're not playing the almighty Blackburn isn't it?

Doh.

My point still stands. We are more likely to be out muscled in Midfield again. Even with RC in there it has been the case so removing a tenacious tackler and putting in someone who can pass but is not likely to be match fit still and able to track and tackle could be a major issue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 02:55:13 PM
Nice Blackburn win as they over run us in Midfield. Nice to see KMac learning from his mistakes.

Lucky for us then we're not playing the almighty Blackburn isn't it?

Doh.

My point still stands. We are more likely to be out muscled in Midfield again. Even with RC in there it has been the case so removing a tenacious tackler and putting in someone who can pass but is not likely to be match fit still and able to track and tackle could be a major issue.

This isn't Allardyce's Bolton. Coyle is trying to change the way they play. I don't think we'll be overrun at all. In fact, I think they'll have a problem with our pace and movement if we can play to our potential. The problem will their physical play up front, but not neccesarily in midfield.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 02:57:35 PM
We're gonna get absolutely mullered in midfield. Petrov will peer up and see 3 brick walls charging him, and he won't have the time, the speed, or any hope of doing a damn thing about it. I have an image in my head of Stan splattered across the turf, flat as a pan cake like he's Wile Coyote and has just got run over by a steam roller.

Meep meep!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 02:58:50 PM
Not sure who in that line up is going to win the ball back for us.  Still, as long as we never let Bolton have it we could score a few.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 02:58:52 PM
anyone got a decent veetle or sopcast link please?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:02:23 PM
Bright start
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: armra1972 on September 18, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Why no NRC, this is his sort of game and one he can stamp his authority all over.  Gonna be a rough ride for us but hopefully we'll come out on top.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PAKISTAN on September 18, 2010, 03:04:19 PM
anyone got a decent veetle or sopcast link please?

watching now is average stream in spanish http://www.dailyfun4u.us/2010/09/aston-villa-v-bolton-wanderers-link-1.html
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:04:45 PM
Fookin hell Dunney!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:04:52 PM
fucking awful lazy play by Dunne there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:05:57 PM
Downing has started well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: pmarachi on September 18, 2010, 03:06:20 PM
anyone got a decent veetle or sopcast link please?

watching now is average stream in spanish http://www.dailyfun4u.us/2010/09/aston-villa-v-bolton-wanderers-link-1.html

Thanks.  My sopcast isn't working for some reason.  Anyone else having this issue?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 03:06:25 PM
thanks pakistan!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 03:06:49 PM
Marc's so bloody dangerous. He's like Pedro.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:06:57 PM
Albrighton has started like a demon!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: johny on September 18, 2010, 03:11:34 PM
Decent stream but no english commentry.

http://worldfootball.us/channel1.html
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 03:11:54 PM
found this with english commentary , average feed though.
http://www.p2pstation.net/
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:12:13 PM
Albrigton has been excellent so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: pmarachi on September 18, 2010, 03:12:23 PM
my stream is frozen.  Any others out there?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on September 18, 2010, 03:12:52 PM
YES§
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: SimonWoodroffe on September 18, 2010, 03:12:58 PM
WHat a PEACH of a free kick from Young!!! 1-0!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on September 18, 2010, 03:13:05 PM
Ashley!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:13:06 PM
YEEEEESSS finally a free kick from Ash.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:13:06 PM
Get innnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

First one for ages!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:13:16 PM
Ashley Young has finally scored from a FK.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Tucson Villain on September 18, 2010, 03:13:22 PM
Get in !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 03:13:29 PM
Oh Ash you demon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: enigma on September 18, 2010, 03:13:34 PM
That was a lovely strike.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: MattW on September 18, 2010, 03:13:36 PM
He's back baby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: johny on September 18, 2010, 03:13:45 PM
Has now!!

Goal, get in Ashley!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on September 18, 2010, 03:14:11 PM
well done Ashley.

Well done Villa streams bloke for putting it on to English commentary
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: enigma on September 18, 2010, 03:14:18 PM
Why no NRC, this is his sort of game and one he can stamp his authority all over.  Gonna be a rough ride for us but hopefully we'll come out on top.

This is exactly the sort of game where people were complaining that we struggled to break the opposition last season. At least K Mac is trying to rectify that by going with a creative looking side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 03:14:27 PM
http://worldfootball.us/channel1.html

excellent and in english , just in time to see ash s goal
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on September 18, 2010, 03:14:36 PM
Jesus, the commentator loved that goal... that woke the Kitten up!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PAKISTAN on September 18, 2010, 03:14:53 PM
1-0 the villa  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:15:27 PM
Lovely little pass from Luke to release Ash then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:17:15 PM
how did Knight not get booked for that!?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:18:08 PM
Why no NRC, this is his sort of game and one he can stamp his authority all over.  Gonna be a rough ride for us but hopefully we'll come out on top.

This is exactly the sort of game where people were complaining that we struggled to break the opposition last season. At least K Mac is trying to rectify that by going with a creative looking side.

This is exactly the sort of game that we scored 5 against the opposition the last few years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:19:01 PM
how did Knight not get booked for that!?
I thought he was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 03:20:04 PM
Right there was a classic example of what Petrov does so well. Reads the game, intercepts and passes in one motion.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:20:40 PM
how did Knight not get booked for that!?

Ho got booked. Might have been a red as last man and such but with how wide he was.....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 03:21:16 PM
McCallister in the stands, who's the other grey haired chap?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:22:19 PM
Ash is struggling.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:23:17 PM
McCallister in the stands, who's the other grey haired chap?
Never mind that, who was the Joey Ramone lookylikey?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
Lovely spell of passing and possession there. Really good to see.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on September 18, 2010, 03:24:32 PM
How come Whoopi Goldberg is down Villa Park, and is she suffering from the same 'ailment' as Wacko Jacko?

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6097/38023309.jpg) (http://img801.imageshack.us/i/38023309.jpg/)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on September 18, 2010, 03:24:44 PM
Whoever said Bolton like to play it on the ground these days lied.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: enigma on September 18, 2010, 03:25:29 PM
Why no NRC, this is his sort of game and one he can stamp his authority all over.  Gonna be a rough ride for us but hopefully we'll come out on top.

This is exactly the sort of game where people were complaining that we struggled to break the opposition last season. At least K Mac is trying to rectify that by going with a creative looking side.

This is exactly the sort of game that we scored 5 against the opposition the last few years.

With or without NRC? (Can't remember)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:26:13 PM
Is that Faulkner on the left, eating the scampi fries?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 03:27:38 PM
Isn't that Mervyn King in front of GH? Good man.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 18, 2010, 03:28:07 PM
How come Whoopi Goldberg is down Villa Park, and is she suffering from the same 'ailment' as Wacko Jacko?

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6097/38023309.jpg) (http://img801.imageshack.us/i/38023309.jpg/)
What`s Weird Al Jankovic doing there?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:28:53 PM
I'm seeing too much Vanish and not enough Villa from those streams....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 03:29:20 PM
found decent stream here if anyone needs one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on September 18, 2010, 03:29:24 PM
Isn't that Mervyn King in front of GH? Good man.

he voted for the score to stay at 1-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:29:44 PM
where east19?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:29:52 PM
Why no NRC, this is his sort of game and one he can stamp his authority all over.  Gonna be a rough ride for us but hopefully we'll come out on top.

This is exactly the sort of game where people were complaining that we struggled to break the opposition last season. At least K Mac is trying to rectify that by going with a creative looking side.

This is exactly the sort of game that we scored 5 against the opposition the last few years.

With or without NRC? (Can't remember)

He played in both matches Started lasts years 5-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:30:55 PM
fucking hell that was a pen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: johny on September 18, 2010, 03:31:02 PM
http://worldfootball.us/channel1.html
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:31:13 PM
Looks like there's a good crowd in VP today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:31:15 PM
Warnock a bit lucky there.  Strange there was no appeal from Bolton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
http://www.elcr9.com/2010/06/sports-en-hq.html

sorry forgot to paste link!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:31:22 PM
Could have been a Pen against.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: adamski villa on September 18, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
how lucky, that was a deff penalty
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on September 18, 2010, 03:32:33 PM
That's Duverne on the far right next to McAllister, I think.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:32:33 PM
thanks for the streams east and johnny. Much better.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:32:34 PM
fantastic block after a terrible headed clearance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: adamski villa on September 18, 2010, 03:33:00 PM
great block Luke Young
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:33:06 PM
Bolton are starting to get all over us again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:33:19 PM
Zat should have gone for that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 03:33:50 PM
Good there by Marc. Again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheMalandro on September 18, 2010, 03:34:06 PM
MA look for a pass sometimes!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:34:19 PM
Albrighton is such a class act. Great block Luke.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 03:34:53 PM
That's Duverne on the far right next to McAllister, I think.

You're right it is. Who's the chap with the grey hair?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on September 18, 2010, 03:35:06 PM
What happened to Dunne? He is having a shocker....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 03:35:11 PM
Does Ireland look a little lost?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:35:30 PM
1-1. Can see us collapsing now
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 03:35:32 PM
Oh Fuck...............
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:35:35 PM
Bollocks
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:35:48 PM
Fucking hell, that was coming. Midfield is beginning to get overrun.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on September 18, 2010, 03:36:09 PM
what a crock
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 03:36:18 PM
We've been inviting that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 18, 2010, 03:36:43 PM
Defence look awful
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:36:50 PM
What happened to Dunne? He is having a shocker....

I've been critical of him in a while.....

Bollocks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:37:35 PM
Dunne is having an absolute shocker.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: puppyfeat on September 18, 2010, 03:37:41 PM
Bollox - I just started watching it and they go an fooking score!  >:(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 03:38:05 PM
Dunne is abysmal today. He needs to lay off the pies
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Apyadg on September 18, 2010, 03:38:16 PM
What the fuck is Collins doing on his own marking two in the centre? What is Warnock doing other than sitting there scratching his balls when Dunne is trying to stop the Bolton player putting in a cross...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:38:22 PM
What happened to Dunne? He is having a shocker....

I've been critical of him in a while.....

Bollocks.

If he is too unfit to even lumber up the pitch for a Corner then he should be off and Cueller should be on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: picicata on September 18, 2010, 03:38:42 PM
Get NRC on and get control of the midfield for fecks sake.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Apyadg on September 18, 2010, 03:38:58 PM
Cueller needs a game, our defence has been shit for most games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:39:01 PM
Man alive, ref saved us again then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 03:39:36 PM
agree , get cuellar on for dunne .dunne looks unfit and overweight,
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:40:09 PM
Fucking hell Petrov, back off, back off, back off and let the guy shoot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:40:12 PM
They're all over us at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:40:22 PM
Dunne always struggled with his weight, I'd drop him until he gets in shape.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 03:40:41 PM
Dunne has looked shit all season, clearly not fit. Problem is he is our ONLY defensive leader. The rest are lost without him
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: dean saunders left boot on September 18, 2010, 03:41:11 PM
first thing houllier needs to do when he comes in is to get dunne to shift some weight, bulked up and it's affecting his play something rotten
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 03:41:19 PM
I also predict we will come out comfortable winners. Im going for 4-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Reuben on September 18, 2010, 03:41:28 PM
How is Ireland doing?  My stream isn't great and can't really see (or get mixed up with Collins)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:41:39 PM
Bulked up? he's just fat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:41:44 PM
GH will have plenty to ponder....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:42:39 PM
How is Ireland doing?  My stream isn't great and can't really see (or get mixed up with Collins)
Ireland quiet.  One or two nice touches but not had much impact so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:42:45 PM
worst free kick ever.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 03:43:02 PM
Our CM is so light. We need to play 3 across to help out Stan, who's past it frankly.
Ireland is never gonna be a central midfielder, he's, pardon the expression, a floater. Defensive duties don't suit him, nor physical tussles. Again a very naive selection by KMac. Granted we have no options, but at minimum, NRC should be in there. Even he's not enough.

If Houllier does this I'll be very worried indeed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 03:43:09 PM
How is Ireland doing?  My stream isn't great and can't really see (or get mixed up with Collins)

Sitting deep and if Im honest looks lost and lacking confidence
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: dean saunders left boot on September 18, 2010, 03:43:19 PM
Bulked up? he's just fat.

Yes, I was being polite, but you're right he's just fat!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 03:44:07 PM
We're really not looking good at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:44:19 PM
I also predict we will come out comfortable winners. Im going for 4-1

It will be the first time we have got something out of a match with KMac in charge after conceding. Unfortunately I can only see a Bolton win now with the only change being Heskey for Albrighton at some arbitrary point in the match when we need to score.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on September 18, 2010, 03:44:42 PM
Let's not get carried away because commentators look for incidents and talk up penalty claims.

The first one was never a pen - he had lost possession, hence no claim. Second not so sure given the quality of the feed.

Dunne is struggling as he has all season. The best pairing is Carlos and Collins - better pace and both more reliable. I like Dunne, but not enough to keep him in the team when he is third choice CH.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Apyadg on September 18, 2010, 03:44:43 PM
How has Warnock spent so many years as a defender and still not learned how to tackle.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 18, 2010, 03:44:51 PM
We`re looking bottom three material tbh
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:45:05 PM
We looked really good for 20-25 minutes, since then we have been fucking awful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 03:45:24 PM
Not remotely advocating we should touch him with a ten foot pole, but Kevin Davies is a good player, and a pain in the bloody arse. Take him over Heskey anyday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 03:46:10 PM
We WILL win this. Once this storm is weathered we will come out with renewed confidence and take them apart. Trust me....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:46:38 PM
Wolves are wining 1-0 at WHL again. I wonder if they can do it for the third game on the trot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:47:00 PM
The vibe around the club is still so uncertain of itself.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:47:21 PM

The first one was never a pen - he had lost possession, hence no claim.


What does that have to do with it?  Warnock stuck out a leg and brought the guy down.  Foul, in the area = penalty.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on September 18, 2010, 03:47:41 PM
Dunne has looked shit all season, clearly not fit. Problem is he is our ONLY defensive leader. The rest are lost without him

Disagree. I think Dunne is quiet and Collins is a better organiser/leader. Dunne will also commit more fouls and pick up cards - because he is struggling for fitness.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:47:47 PM
Wolves are wining 1-0 at WHL again. I wonder if they can do it for the third game on the trot.

Some good news!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 03:47:49 PM
half time 1-1 and not very convincing so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:47:55 PM
Christ sort it out Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Apyadg on September 18, 2010, 03:47:56 PM
I wonder what Houllier is thinking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 18, 2010, 03:48:34 PM
Houllier looks shell-shocked-in a Gallic shrug way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Reuben on September 18, 2010, 03:49:41 PM
Has KM got 'it' to turn things at half time?
When we were 2-0 down to Newcastle and playing ok, even at 3-0 I thought we may turn it around...however that was with last season in mind.  Instead we just sat back....  Similarly at 1-0 up v Everton and maybe today and Stoke, we don't push on.  Whatever we say of MON we turned things around often after half time even without subs!
We need a kick up the arse!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:49:59 PM
We started really really well - Albrighton looked dangerous as did Ashley.

But we've let them get back into it and they've realised they more or less have no effective opposition in the middle of the park.

Not seen much from Ireland yet and Gabby hasn't had much of the ball.  Warnock is struggling to keep their winger quiet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on September 18, 2010, 03:50:27 PM
Crikey. Lots to work on there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 03:50:55 PM
Not convincing. A decent spell of possession before half-time showed them what we really should have been doing at 1-0. God knows why we keep lumping it downfield, losing the ball and inviting more pressure AT HOME. You'd think we were at the Bernabeu.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: MattW on September 18, 2010, 03:50:57 PM
Good stuff elsewhere...

1545: GOAL Everton 0-1 Newcastle (Ben Arfa)

1545: GOAL Tottenham 0-1 Wolves (Fletcher)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 03:51:16 PM
Ugly again. We miss Milner a hell of a lot too. He did so much donkey work in the middle to make up for Stan's inability to run, and he had quality to go with it. Trying to replace him directly with Ireland does us, nor Ireland himself, any favours at all.

Ash is struggling to impact the game. Get him on the wings FFS, and keep him there!

Houllier looked like he wanted to catch the first Eurostar back to Paris.

This is hard watching.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 18, 2010, 03:51:31 PM
Not remotely advocating we should touch him with a ten foot pole, but Kevin Davies is a good player, and a pain in the bloody arse. Take him over Heskey anyday.

Yep - he's a good player, but again signing him would somewhat dictate a style of play that I don't want at Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on September 18, 2010, 03:51:40 PM

The first one was never a pen - he had lost possession, hence no claim.


What does that have to do with it?  Warnock stuck out a leg and brought the guy down.  Foul, in the area = penalty.

If it was a bad and intentional foul, but otherwise no chance a pen is going to given if a player loses possession and then there is contact. If you can find an example of when that has happened, I will find a hat and eat it.

Anyway we need to be in their box - then it is no issue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: MattW on September 18, 2010, 03:51:57 PM
Houllier looks shell-shocked-in a Gallic shrug way.

No he doesn't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:52:41 PM
I think we are seeing the downside of having Ireland rather then Milner. Milner can play well in most positions in the park. Ireland can play really well in one position (AM) but is pretty much a liability anywhere else. Him and the money would would definitely have been the better deal if we used the money but until Jan and until we change the system to suit him we had the worst of the deal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 03:53:04 PM
still prefer ash out wide and psh ireland up bringing on reo coker for either downing or albrighton , id like to see cuellar for dunne too but doubt kmac will  make those changes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:54:55 PM
If it was a bad and intentional foul, but otherwise no chance a pen is going to given if a player loses possession and then there is contact. If you can find an example of when that has happened, I will find a hat and eat it.

It was intentional - Warnock stuck his left leg out to bring the guy down.  Possession is irrelevant.  You don't have to be in possession to get a pen for handball for instance, or for shirt tugging as a corner comes in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 18, 2010, 03:55:03 PM
Good coming forward but as I accidentally posted on the pre match thread, this formation is suicidal from a defensive point of view, the gaps between the defence and midfield are frightening and allow Bolton midfielders to just build up a head of steam in twenty yards of pace.  If Kevin Mac wants to know why he didn't get the job, is because of team selections like this.  He needs to have the balls to leave one of the attacking midfielders out, Albrighton would be most likely but he's been lively again, although lacking in end product.

This formation is also counter productive from an attacking point of view as it means Ireland cannot play his preferred role of floating between the midfield and attack.

I just don't get how managers can make such rookie errors. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 18, 2010, 03:55:52 PM
We need to have a bit more solidity in midfield. Albrighton, Ireland, Ash, Downing on the park together makes for exciting footy but that's no use when the other team has the ball.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 03:56:01 PM
This formation is also counter productive from an attacking point of view as it means Ireland cannot play his preferred role of floating between the midfield and attack.

I just don't get how managers can make such rookie errors.

Because he is a Rookie manager.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on September 18, 2010, 03:56:33 PM
Bolton started to press our defenders further up the pitch which means 1 in 3 times we had to play it long - absolutely perfect for 6ft 5 defenders against Gabby and Young..  They weren't doing that in the first 20 minutes which made it easier for us to play it about. 

We need to vary our play a bit more and show a bit more composure when attacking their full backs.  It's all a bit rushed and confidence is certainly an issue at the back - a better side would be a couple of goals ahead of us by now.  I'd worry if we go a goal behind heads would well and truly drop. 

Next 45 mins will be an interesting gauge of our character.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Scott Nielsen on September 18, 2010, 03:57:26 PM
Houllier looks shell-shocked-in a Gallic shrug way.

What? Unimpressed, yes, hardly shell-shocked.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 03:57:57 PM
Petrov again has done very little, which is disappointing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 03:58:55 PM
Bears have pulled back a bit against Somerset who are 72 for 2 off 13.2 overs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: ronshirt on September 18, 2010, 03:59:14 PM
Somebody recently posted that it could be a confidence thing and I think they were right. When we're flying we're flying but as soon as something goes wrong all the confidence seems to drain away.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Scott Nielsen on September 18, 2010, 03:59:17 PM
Was late into the game but have now caught up on Tivo. We're not all that good, are we. Our defending, across the pitch, is really rather terribly poor.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 03:59:23 PM
somerset 73-2 in 14th over of final against warwicks at lords, beat me to it hilts
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 03:59:37 PM
Petrov again has done very little, which is disappointing.

I don't see that. He's made several interceptions, tackled reasonably though completely isolated, passed the ball fine and is our only player moving in the centre of midfield. The formation just leaves him totally without support, though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 18, 2010, 04:00:45 PM
This formation is also counter productive from an attacking point of view as it means Ireland cannot play his preferred role of floating between the midfield and attack.

I just don't get how managers can make such rookie errors.

Because he is a Rookie manager.

He's probably managed more football matches than all of us added together.

Anyway, now we need to attack I cannot see him putting NRC on as it'd be seen as a defensive substitution (i.e. losing downing/albrighton or young) however without possession of the ball we're doomed.

Not happy.  Tut and sigh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:01:11 PM
Dunne needs to sort him fucking self out. It is unacceptable to be in that sort of shape in his profession, it's the equivalent of me turning up drunk to do my job.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PhilGibson on September 18, 2010, 04:01:26 PM
The problem at the moment is trying to shoe horn, Ash, Ireland, Downing and Albrighton in the same team, each of these players in the right formation is effective, but if you play all at the same time its effectively playing a 4 - 1 - 4 (push very far forward) - 1. Which does not work because Petrov does not have the legs to play the holding role with 5 very forward thinking players in front of him. Dunne, Warnock and Young have not been great again defensively but put more protection in front of them then we may get more joy.

We could always try;

Albrighton - Reo Coker - Petrov - A Young
                              Ireland
                               Gabby
I understand this a shame for Downing and he has done well in recent games, but Young played his best football for us on the left wing and ever since Downing arrived we have moved Ash all over the place. Albrighton looks good when he is on the ball. Ireland cannot get into the game because all of the normal positions he would take up are being used by Ash, tactically its very naive.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 04:02:45 PM
wonder if ged will show his face in the dressing room and give kmac a tip or two, doubtful i guess - at least gary mac being there suggests hes coming to us as boro are at home today and we must have sorted out a deal for him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on September 18, 2010, 04:02:55 PM
Cuellar on for Dunne
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on September 18, 2010, 04:02:56 PM
Fucking ell...he subbed Dunne!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: sfx412 on September 18, 2010, 04:03:13 PM
Cuellar for Dunne, why no Coker for Petrov
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:03:32 PM
good he deserved to go.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:03:54 PM
Cuellar IS on for Dunne. About bloody right.

Phil, I agree with that analysis. Harsh on Downing, but we should also remember that this is a squad game and having players like Downing to bring off the bench is a good thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on September 18, 2010, 04:04:24 PM
Commentator really knows jack-schidt...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 04:05:08 PM
Good sub.  Dunne not at the races.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:05:08 PM
Downing did well to track back there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on September 18, 2010, 04:06:33 PM
If it was a bad and intentional foul, but otherwise no chance a pen is going to given if a player loses possession and then there is contact. If you can find an example of when that has happened, I will find a hat and eat it.

It was intentional - Warnock stuck his left leg out to bring the guy down.  Possession is irrelevant.  You don't have to be in possession to get a pen for handball for instance, or for shirt tugging as a corner comes in.

Sorry, not looking to fallout but it is relevant - to the management of the game if not the letter of the law - otherwise no corner would ever be taken as several penalties, free-kicks and/or obstructions occur every time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: BILL DE VALL on September 18, 2010, 04:06:45 PM
Again we are playing 3 wingers and 2 good ball playing midfielders with no hit man
no point crossing the ball to gabby he needs it in behind
Crap Knight is on a booking but he is fast-booting the ball in the air to Gabby will be lapped up by him all day
Dunne is carrying a piano
get a big forward on take off a winger and petrov and get NRC on

i want Albrighton's babies(Imagine the ransom)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: mr woo on September 18, 2010, 04:07:42 PM
Jesus.

Didn't we establish a Petrov/Ireland central midfield doesn't work?

Albrighton off (played ok - not his fault) NRC on

                         Gabby

                        Ireland

Downing  --  Petrov -- NRC  -- Young

Before its too late........
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: dean saunders left boot on September 18, 2010, 04:07:59 PM
any links for streams, the couple I had have gone down
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 18, 2010, 04:08:05 PM
Cuellar for Dunne, why no Coker for Petrov

Errr, because we'd be left with exactly the same problem as the first half but we'd be less likely to retain possession would be my guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:09:48 PM
That's what Irelands good at, unlucky.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 04:10:11 PM
great effort ireland
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: placeforparks on September 18, 2010, 04:10:20 PM
lovely positive play by ireland.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:10:24 PM
That was a bit more like it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 04:10:30 PM
Sorry, not looking to fallout but it is relevant - to the management of the game if not the letter of the law - otherwise no corner would ever be taken as several penalties, free-kicks and/or obstructions occur every time.
No I realise that but say a through ball gets played into the area - player A runs after it, player B sticks out his leg and brings him down, that's a pen - player A doesn't have to be in possession. 

I totally accept that it wasn't a sending off because it wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity and Warncok wasn't the last man, but it was a clear pen.

Anyway, it wasn't given - thank fook - so no harm done.  It had been at the other end we'd both have been screaming for it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 04:10:39 PM
Glimpse of where Ireland should be, and what he's capable of there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 04:10:46 PM
http://www.elcr9.com/2010/06/sports-en-hq.html
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Scott Nielsen on September 18, 2010, 04:11:04 PM
wonder if ged will show his face in the dressing room and give kmac a tip or two, doubtful i guess

He won't, no. Or at least not until it's all over.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/9010105.stm
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on September 18, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
Wonder if GH has been in mobile contact with Kev Mac at half time and insisted he bring the Telllytubby off.

A brave call, which is why I'm not sure Kevin Mac made it.

Now if only GH can get Kevin Mac to bring NRC on, for Downing or Albrighton. Ash out wide, Ireland off the striker - job done.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:12:42 PM
The Spanish commentators are absolutely loving "Albrrreetonn".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:12:50 PM
better effort from Downing to tackle
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 04:12:54 PM
Well that's the last tackle Downing will ever attempt. It'll put the fear of god into him now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PAKISTAN on September 18, 2010, 04:13:02 PM
any links for streams, the couple I had have gone down

http://www.dailyfun4u.us/2010/09/aston-villa-v-bolton-wanderers-link-1.html

quality stream but in spanish
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 18, 2010, 04:15:33 PM
Was Cueller number 24 last year?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:16:13 PM
unlucky Downing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:16:24 PM
Nice thinking by Marc and Stan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:16:41 PM
Good movement then, shame L Young couldn't finish it.

Could save from the Ginge from Downing on the follow up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 04:17:20 PM
When did Ron Weasley and Prince Harry have a kid? And when did he sign for Bolton?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:17:56 PM
Baggies go from 1 down to leading the bluenoses 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Jane on September 18, 2010, 04:19:28 PM
The Spanish commentators are absolutely loving "Albrrreetonn".

I'm loving the spanish commentators!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:19:59 PM
Good save from Brad
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: placeforparks on September 18, 2010, 04:20:08 PM
good save brad
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 04:20:11 PM
Good save brad
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:20:15 PM
Cuellar badly beaten in the air there, good save.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:20:21 PM
We cannot defend set-pieces. Why can't we defend set-pieces?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PAKISTAN on September 18, 2010, 04:20:30 PM
oooh well saved
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 04:20:54 PM
great save from brad there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:21:29 PM
Carew ready to come on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Hammer on September 18, 2010, 04:22:05 PM
Was Cueller number 24 last year?

He's been number 24 all his time at Villa, and Rangers too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:22:10 PM
Carew ready to come on.

Christ, he's surely not going 4-4-2. Surely.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 04:23:01 PM
looking better this half, poor corner from ash though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:23:26 PM
Carew ready to come on.

Christ, he's surely not going 4-4-2. Surely.

I was anticipating it as Nicolas mentioned it on Sky Sports. Doesn't seem to be happening.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 04:23:43 PM
fucking attack the corners!!!! We used to absolute money from set pieces
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on September 18, 2010, 04:23:58 PM
afternoon chaps, hows the game going?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: mr woo on September 18, 2010, 04:24:10 PM
When did Ron Weasley and Prince Harry have a kid? And when did he sign for Bolton?


Either that or a carrot raped his mother.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 04:24:49 PM
Get Carew on. He destroyed them last year. Although sadly, he looks quite happy and content there sat on the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Scott Nielsen on September 18, 2010, 04:25:42 PM
Does anyone have an idea of our corner conversion rate? And, ideally, in comparison to league average.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 04:26:08 PM
When did Ron Weasley and Prince Harry have a kid? And when did he sign for Bolton?


Either that or a carrot raped his mother.

Should point out, I've nothing against Ginger folk. Especially when they look like Christina Hendricks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 04:26:09 PM
Does anyone have an idea of our corner conversion rate? And, ideally, in comparison to league average.

between this game and West Ham it's got to be horrendous
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PhilGibson on September 18, 2010, 04:27:10 PM
Bah! Please do something!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 04:27:23 PM
I'd have Allbrighton off now and Carew on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:27:32 PM
Dave Woodhall will be in hell. (and heaven). Baggies 3-1 up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 04:27:52 PM
Baggies 3-1 over the shit
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on September 18, 2010, 04:29:29 PM
Carew on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 04:29:37 PM
Carew coming on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:30:08 PM
Carew on

For Ireland. 4-4-2. The Argentine commentators are confused and I'm with them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 04:30:25 PM
http://www.elcr9.com/2010/06/sports-en-hq.html
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PhilGibson on September 18, 2010, 04:31:09 PM
A midfield of Downing, Petrov, Young and Albrighton, 3 bloody wingers!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on September 18, 2010, 04:31:29 PM
anyone got a good link?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:31:42 PM
Carew on

For Ireland. 4-4-2. The Argentine commentators are confused and I'm with them.

So who is the other CM? Downing, Young, Albrighton or Gabby? Whoever it is will be even more lightweight then Ireland.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: placeforparks on September 18, 2010, 04:32:00 PM
wtf has happened to carew's shirt?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 18, 2010, 04:32:58 PM
http://www.elcr9.com/2010/06/sports-en-hq.html

Thank you east19.  How do you find the steams so quickly?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 04:33:30 PM
http://www.elcr9.com/2010/06/sports-en-hq.html

try there fergal
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: dean saunders left boot on September 18, 2010, 04:33:41 PM
wtf has happened to carew's shirt?

That will be the quality issues which have pushed the launch of the shirts back, it tears like loo roll
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:33:47 PM
Carew on
For Ireland. 4-4-2. The Argentine commentators are confused and I'm with them.

So who is the other CM? Downing, Young, Albrighton or Gabby? Whoever it is will be even more lightweight then Ireland.

I believe it is now 4-1-3-2. Otherwise known as "the nuts formation".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:33:56 PM
Pen to Spurs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:34:22 PM
Cant see us scoring to be honest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 04:34:38 PM
Petrov alone in CM is a scary thought. Very scary.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:34:48 PM
Scored. Spurs 1-1. VDV Pen
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 04:34:51 PM
been on that one all game dante.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:35:32 PM
Petrov alone in CM is a scary thought. Very scary.

He always was. Now we're just taking the piss.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: beness on September 18, 2010, 04:35:39 PM
Carew looks like hes been to a dog fight and accidentally participated.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 18, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
I'm going to be the first to say it (I think), but I'd be happy with a draw here.
I've no idea what K-Mac is thinking with this line-up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:37:07 PM
fucking hell Gabby
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on September 18, 2010, 04:37:17 PM
http://www.elcr9.com/2010/06/sports-en-hq.html

try there fergal
Cheers dude... Are we playing OK?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:37:31 PM
So. Cuellar on the left wing and we're playing Total Football. Ball gets to Gabby's feet and he's had a massive brain attack. I see.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:37:35 PM
Shame Gabby couldn't control that then or lay it across to Young in rushing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PhilGibson on September 18, 2010, 04:37:39 PM
Is it going to be a painful last ten minutes, or one full of joy, I think the former at the moment!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: placeforparks on September 18, 2010, 04:37:44 PM
gabby :p
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 04:37:57 PM
gabby needs to pull his finger out or he will finf owen in his place in january, needs to inprove his 1st touch and finishing and fast.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:39:50 PM
gabby needs to pull his finger out or he will finf owen in his place in january, needs to inprove his 1st touch and finishing and fast.

Only as long as our linesman cut the grass right. As soon as one blade is missed Owen will trip over it and will be out for 6 months.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: eastie on September 18, 2010, 04:39:51 PM
at the moment its as though mon never left - roll on monday and the ged era.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PAKISTAN on September 18, 2010, 04:40:57 PM
come on villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 04:41:02 PM
Same old same old, thank god this is KMac's last game. Dire
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on September 18, 2010, 04:41:12 PM
bloody hell, frustrating aint the word
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 04:41:58 PM
Cuellar you silly c*nt
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: placeforparks on September 18, 2010, 04:42:06 PM
this is dire.

c'mon kev, rub our faces in it and bring on emile.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on September 18, 2010, 04:42:33 PM
Carew's having one of his "lumbering oaf" days.
He mostly does.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:42:37 PM
Save Brad
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PhilGibson on September 18, 2010, 04:43:03 PM
What a complete car crash May to September has been so far, we really need to get our act together because this is frankly utter rubbish!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
fuck me. How are we not losing? Brad aside the defending is shocking
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 04:44:03 PM
Backs to the wall at home to fucking Bolton. Bring on Houllier
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: placeforparks on September 18, 2010, 04:44:22 PM
fucking hell.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:45:11 PM
How are we so under the cosh at home against Bolton?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:45:28 PM
Spurs winning,
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: djbone on September 18, 2010, 04:45:52 PM
Thank fuck for brad, these are shit and we're making em look like Barcelona, when with the right use of the good players we have it ought to be another four of five job
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 04:46:17 PM
All I hope is the Houllier sees what we are seeing. This is murder. So much for the players giving KM a great send off.

Oh, and brilliant - Spurs now winning
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 04:46:20 PM
Allbrighton should of been taken off about 20 mins ago,  he's fucked
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:46:41 PM
How are we so under the cosh at home against Bolton?

Three little digits: 4-4-2. We have the players, but our continuing to play this ridiculous system in its various forms just negates any qualities on the ball that we may have.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 18, 2010, 04:46:47 PM
Ahh fuck it, im off another Saturday spoilt
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on September 18, 2010, 04:46:54 PM
Embarrassing.  Being outplayed by Bolton Wanderers at home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 04:47:53 PM
Ahh fuck it, im off another Saturday spoilt

Annoying innit?

What a thoroughly unpleasant watch this has been...afuckingain!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:48:23 PM
Three more minutes of this embarassment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:48:41 PM
How are we so under the cosh at home against Bolton?

Three little digits: 4-4-2. We have the players, but our continuing to play this ridiculous system in its various forms just negates any qualities on the ball that we may have.

So what do you suggest we play with the players we have. And being as we are playing with 3 wingers at the moment and two strikers we are playing anything but.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 04:49:17 PM
this is royally crap. I'm so glad Monday starts a new era at Villa. Can we please start playing possession football on the deck. We need a change in football philosophy so very badly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:49:49 PM
spurs scored 3 in 13 mins to win 3-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:50:59 PM
How are we so under the cosh at home against Bolton?

Three little digits: 4-4-2. We have the players, but our continuing to play this ridiculous system in its various forms just negates any qualities on the ball that we may have.

So what do you suggest we play with the players we have. And being as we are playing with 3 wingers at the moment and two strikers we are playing anything but.

I suggest 4-2-3-1, Downing out for NRC and more solidity in the midfield.

Also, it's 4-4-2 because of where the players are on the pitch. I don't care if Ash is nominally a winger, he's playing central in a 4-4-2 with Petrov there and it's suicidal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 04:51:03 PM
I give Stewie credit, he's gone into a few 50/50's today. Shame going forward he's been ineffectual.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 04:51:26 PM
The one thing Houllier is known for is cleaning house. We need a number of fresh faces and get some more of our superb kids in. It won't happen overnight so we have to be patient, but this isn't good enough.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on September 18, 2010, 04:51:37 PM
try this link if yours has gone down...
http://soccerjumbo-o5.blogspot.com/2009/12/channel-1.html
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:51:42 PM
this is royally crap. I'm so glad Monday starts a new era at Villa. Can we please start playing possession football on the deck. We need a change in football philosophy so very badly.

I can't see any change for several matches unfortunately. I remember the same things being said against West Ham (New era, Posseion football on the deck) but as soon as we are under any pressure we revert to type.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 18, 2010, 04:52:10 PM
Well thank fuck that's over.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PhilGibson on September 18, 2010, 04:52:16 PM
That is football at its most horrible, The premier league is supposed to be the greatest league in the world, with matches like this?

I cannot remember many worse performance than today and the one against Newcastle, we just look totally devoid of ideas and confidence.

Gerard you have a big job on your hands mate picking up this lot!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 04:52:26 PM
Absolute bobbins. That's put me in a foul bloody mood.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 04:52:49 PM
Was that a bit of booing I heard?  I know we weren't great but I didn't think it deserved booing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 04:53:42 PM
this is royally crap. I'm so glad Monday starts a new era at Villa. Can we please start playing possession football on the deck. We need a change in football philosophy so very badly.

I can't see any change for several matches unfortunately. I remember the same things being said against West Ham (New era, Posseion football on the deck) but as soon as we are under any pressure we revert to type.

No, it will take some time to bed in, plus we need two transfer windows. I think the arrival of Houllier will signal some stability as of next week. They have a decent size task on, but as poor as it has been today, it isn't a crisis. We need to settle down, decide on what we are and push on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
How are we so under the cosh at home against Bolton?

Three little digits: 4-4-2. We have the players, but our continuing to play this ridiculous system in its various forms just negates any qualities on the ball that we may have.

So what do you suggest we play with the players we have. And being as we are playing with 3 wingers at the moment and two strikers we are playing anything but.

I suggest 4-2-3-1, Downing out for NRC and more solidity in the midfield.

Also, it's 4-4-2 because of where the players are on the pitch. I don't care if Ash is nominally a winger, he's playing central in a 4-4-2 with Petrov there and it's suicidal.

We played a 4-5-1, 4-4-1-1 for most of the matches this season. It hasn't made any difference. You could even argue that Everton and stoke were the 4-2-3-1 that you are advocating.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: PhilGibson on September 18, 2010, 04:54:09 PM
Absolute bobbins. That's put me in a foul bloody mood.

Totally agree, hate having my weekend's spoiled by playing so badly. I dont mind drawing or losing as long as I see fight, but today we lacked idea, direction, leadership and passion. It was horrid.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 18, 2010, 04:54:51 PM
this is royally crap. I'm so glad Monday starts a new era at Villa. Can we please start playing possession football on the deck. We need a change in football philosophy so very badly.
Indeed, today was the legacy of MON. Good squad playing like shite.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:55:09 PM
Was that a bit of booing I heard?  I know we weren't great but I didn't think it deserved booing.

You might have felt different if you had actually paid to watch it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 18, 2010, 04:55:17 PM
Absolute bobbins. That's put me in a foul bloody mood.

Totally agree, hate having my weekend's spoiled by playing so badly. I dont mind drawing or losing as long as I see fight, but today we lacked idea, direction, leadership and passion. It was horrid.

Yep. I'm off for some Chinese water torture to make myself feel better.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: djbone on September 18, 2010, 04:55:43 PM
So lucky we didn't lose that. Thanks keV mc but you've proved you were out of your depth. GH and GM will surely make a better fist of getting a balanced team out of this squad. Great stream all game from villastreams btw, didn't drop once and look good even blown up on't big telly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 18, 2010, 04:56:23 PM
How are we so under the cosh at home against Bolton?

Three little digits: 4-4-2. We have the players, but our continuing to play this ridiculous system in its various forms just negates any qualities on the ball that we may have.

So what do you suggest we play with the players we have. And being as we are playing with 3 wingers at the moment and two strikers we are playing anything but.

I suggest 4-2-3-1, Downing out for NRC and more solidity in the midfield.

Also, it's 4-4-2 because of where the players are on the pitch. I don't care if Ash is nominally a winger, he's playing central in a 4-4-2 with Petrov there and it's suicidal.

We played a 4-5-1, 4-4-1-1 for most of the matches this season. It hasn't made any difference. You could even argue that Everton and stoke were the 4-2-3-1 that you are advocating.

The players didn't move off the ball for much of those games, and when they did it was so much more comfortable (more so against Stoke, where I thought we were unlucky).

The problem with the system we started today, as someone else mentioned, is that the 4 ahead of Petrov is absurdly advanced, leaving Stan totally isolated on the counter.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 18, 2010, 04:56:30 PM
this is royally crap. I'm so glad Monday starts a new era at Villa. Can we please start playing possession football on the deck. We need a change in football philosophy so very badly.
Indeed, today was the legacy of MON. Good first 11 playing like shite.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 18, 2010, 05:00:04 PM
We played a 4-5-1, 4-4-1-1 for most of the matches this season. It hasn't made any difference. You could even argue that Everton and stoke were the 4-2-3-1 that you are advocating.

--------------------Brad Snr --------------------
Young------Collins------Cuellar------Warnock
------------NRC-----------Petrov----------------
---Albrighton------Ireland------Young--------
----------------------gabby-----------------------

Has that team and formation been played yet?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 18, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Was that a bit of booing I heard?  I know we weren't great but I didn't think it deserved booing.

You might have felt different if you had actually paid to watch it.
That's fair enough if you regard supporting the team as a 'value for money' based thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: mr woo on September 18, 2010, 05:04:26 PM
We played a 4-5-1, 4-4-1-1 for most of the matches this season. It hasn't made any difference. You could even argue that Everton and stoke were the 4-2-3-1 that you are advocating.

--------------------Brad Snr --------------------
Young------Collins------Cuellar------Warnock
------------NRC-----------Petrov----------------
---Albrighton------Ireland------Young--------
----------------------gabby-----------------------

Has that team and formation been played yet?



If it hasn't you'd have to ask 'why not'? because it looks like an obvious best starting XI to me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
Was that a bit of booing I heard?  I know we weren't great but I didn't think it deserved booing.

You might have felt different if you had actually paid to watch it.
That's fair enough if you regard supporting the team as a 'value for money' based thing.

My issue with booing is that while I suppose people have the right to air their views, I hope those same people are prepared for the next few weeks being one of transition. It may not be pretty all the time, and booing our players will be very counter productive during that time as they learn new things. Even if people have paid to be there, I hope they realize that. It's not going to change immediately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 18, 2010, 05:11:07 PM
this is royally crap. I'm so glad Monday starts a new era at Villa. Can we please start playing possession football on the deck. We need a change in football philosophy so very badly.
Indeed, today was the legacy of MON. Good players playing like shite.

Fixed.
Now it is. (winky)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: mozza on September 18, 2010, 10:46:11 PM
Perhaps naive but I anticipated we might have picked up a draw & win from
last two matches..........against opposition who are unlikely to be
challenging for European spots in May next year

As it turns out we have dropped 5 points and on current look more
likely to finish bottom 6 than top -

Thanks KMac ...........you made some mistakes which was to be
expected but overall I think the players let you down -

If it wasn't for last ditch blocks from Luke Young and smart saves from
Friedal the visitors today would have gone home with a decent away win-

Was it me or did Stephen Ireland do just that ONE thing before he was
subbed ? We already have passengers in the current team we certainly
don't need to carry any more-

At the final whistle I reacted along with many others of those that
stayed till the end by letting the players know what I thought of the
performance - I'm certainly not happy with myself but how else can I
show my displeasure (I've paid £450 up front so finding something
else to do on match day is not an option)

Hopefully Mssrs Houlier McAllister assisted by Villa legend Sid will wave
a magic wand - whether the current players will respond is another
matter       
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on September 19, 2010, 11:20:00 AM
Was that a bit of booing I heard?  I know we weren't great but I didn't think it deserved booing.

You might have felt different if you had actually paid to watch it.
That's fair enough if you regard supporting the team as a 'value for money' based thing.

My issue with booing is that while I suppose people have the right to air their views, I hope those same people are prepared for the next few weeks being one of transition. It may not be pretty all the time, and booing our players will be very counter productive during that time as they learn new things. Even if people have paid to be there, I hope they realize that. It's not going to change immediately.

They needed booing. That was dross.
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