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Title: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 09, 2010, 04:03:30 PM
There isn't one up yet, so I thought I'd start it.

Thoughts and opinions on Ged's first game in charge?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on September 09, 2010, 04:05:28 PM
1-1

Dropped points against Stoke is traditional. Gabbs and Pennant to score.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on September 09, 2010, 04:06:04 PM
A rather hard fought 0-0.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: flybo on September 09, 2010, 04:06:39 PM
2-1 Villa win
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on September 09, 2010, 04:06:55 PM
We're gonna sneak it by the odd goal I think.

0-1

Gabby 88
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bryan on September 09, 2010, 04:07:29 PM
Hopefully a solid 2-0.

Head says more like a 1-1.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 09, 2010, 04:08:40 PM
I think we'll do them as well. I've had a glance at their forums and they seem to think they only need to turn up to win.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on September 09, 2010, 04:16:28 PM
If we'd have come straight into the game off the back of the transfer window, I could only see a Stoke win. Now the momentum's gone a bit I can see us pulling off a draw.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on September 09, 2010, 04:19:47 PM
I predict that if Gezza makes the right decision for this game and plays Cuellar at right back he'll get a load of stick and we'll win 0-1.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 09, 2010, 04:25:02 PM
Villa win. We need to end the barron run up there and the players will be keen to impress. 2-0 to the good fellas - Carew in the first half, and Gabby late on.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 09, 2010, 04:27:14 PM
stoke 0 Villa 5         

          Heskey    17,    ,   44   ,     70  ,  78,   90   
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 09, 2010, 05:29:56 PM
It would have been 0-2 to Villa, but I did not start the thread...
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: H00513R on September 09, 2010, 05:30:20 PM
Albrighton goes nuts 2-0 Villa.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on September 09, 2010, 05:32:47 PM
With their new signings they will be less pyshical so an easy 2 nil win to Villa
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 09, 2010, 05:38:59 PM
2-1 to Villa
Too much class for a very basic side in Stoke.
Ashley Young to impress in front of Houllier and to score.
That's the kind of guy he is !
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 09, 2010, 05:43:07 PM
4-2-3-1 I think. We should look to dominate possession to try and counter-act Stoke's aerial threat. Even if it looks like we're going nowhere, at least we're stopping them causing us damage.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Situation on September 09, 2010, 05:47:53 PM
Urgh, I hate Stoke, not just as a team, but as a place and the people who live there. I believe they have lost all their games so far which will mean they will try and do what they do best to win, and that is attempt to paralyse Ashley Young's lower body... and likewise with Albrighton too.

It'll be a tough match, but we're more than capable of winning, and it's about time we beat a crap team like Stoke at their stadium.

Is Ireland OK to play... is he healthy? Hopefully our new manager MR Houllier doesn't make the same mistake as Macdonald playing Ireland together with Petrov in central midfield.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Michel Sibble on September 09, 2010, 05:51:25 PM
Kamara's predicting 2-0 (the twunt)

Personally we'll struggle. They're a physical side and we have Downing.

1-1

(Bastard system logged me out. Third time lucky)
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 09, 2010, 06:39:33 PM
2-1 Stoke
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on September 09, 2010, 07:09:59 PM
From what I remember Gerard likes a strong tackling midfielder, so I would expect NRC to start. Gabs will be too much for them. 3-1 Villa Gabby with 2 and a second of the season for Petrov. Collins o.g for them!
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on September 09, 2010, 07:35:14 PM
Hmmmm.....Stoke as yet without a win this season.  Who better to play than us?  Stoke 2 - Villa 0
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on September 09, 2010, 07:42:49 PM
If there was a worse game than this last season anywhere in the country i'll be shocked, a complete non-event and it was windy as fk, can see more of the same 0-0
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nuninho on September 09, 2010, 07:47:54 PM
Aston Villa football club in playing a match shocker??!!!

1-0 Villa. 
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BILL DE VALL on September 09, 2010, 08:28:16 PM
Stoke play 'anti-football' (like anti-matter to skill and panache)
We should be up to impress our new manager so 3-0 to us!
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 09, 2010, 08:45:17 PM
I'd like to think the reason Stoke have gone without a win is because they're not very good. So with that in mind, if we score early and keep the ball, we'll do alright.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: atomicjam on September 09, 2010, 09:01:06 PM
Stoke have a few new signings but we will win with our new Manager, 3-1 to The Villa.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on September 09, 2010, 09:28:51 PM
Got a bad feeling about this one.

Stoke 3 Villa 0

Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on September 09, 2010, 09:32:19 PM
I'm going, I've recently started working in Leek with loads of the buggers so this has got catastrophic defeat written all over it.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on September 09, 2010, 11:46:22 PM
Fancy a cheeky 0-1. We really need to start a new era of lots more possesion. And then use the counter attack with all the pace we have ...................
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on September 10, 2010, 01:34:56 AM
1-0 to Villa with Heskey scoring the only goal.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: usav on September 10, 2010, 03:03:43 AM
Not expecting much from this.....probably too early for Gerard To influence anything.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 10, 2010, 03:13:39 AM
Intrigued as to what team Houllier will play. I hope Albrighton doesn't fall out of favour due to his inexperience. And if the choice is between Heskey and Carew, can we read much into the fact that he bought one and sold (swapped) the other? Bloody hope not...

Anyway, we'll do well to get a result here. They haven't started well but their new signings will give them a boost and it's a tough place to go as we've found on our two recent visits.

1-1.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on September 10, 2010, 03:42:18 AM
I think KMac (if he is kept on) will have more of a bearing on the line up than Houllier for this game as it probably comes a bit too soon for him to want to change anything drastically yet.

--------------------Friedel----------------------
---Young---Dunne---Collins---Warnock---
---Albrighton----Petrov-------Downing----
-------------Ireland----Young----------------
-------------------Gabby-----------------------
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 10, 2010, 08:04:34 AM
I think we'll win.

Never been to Stoke before, looking forward to it.

I don't know who is fit and who isn't.

I hope he starts Albrighton.

.......................Friedel
Young.....Cuellar...........Dunne......Warnock
.......................NRC
..............Petrov........Ireland
Albrighton.................................Young
.....................Agbonlahor
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 10, 2010, 08:08:50 AM
If Ireland is injured I wonder if invisible Sid will get a game?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 10, 2010, 09:34:42 AM
I dreamt we drew 1-1 last night.I regularly dream about the match prior it to being played which can make things 10x's as depressing because we always normally win in the dream.I'm hoping this isn't just me ;)
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on September 10, 2010, 10:09:16 AM
I gotta good feeling bout this, players have to impress on monday and its gunna work in our favour, everyones got a point to prove now. Fresh start for lots of players too. 2-0 to the Villa. Gabby and Ashley to grab the goals
UTV

P.S anyone been before tell me what its like? lol
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CheeriOneill on September 10, 2010, 11:10:43 AM
I would have said draw 0-0 or 1-1

As its on TV have that losing feeling 1-0 or 2-1

On the bright side its like a home game for me!
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: serbentoflight on September 10, 2010, 11:14:36 AM
1 - 0  The Fonz (on for Heskey) 79th Min.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fingers on September 10, 2010, 11:20:58 AM
Was gonna go for us to nick it but now Le Gaffer isn't there - horrible 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdward on September 10, 2010, 11:25:05 AM
Not expecting much from this.....probably too early for Gerard To influence anything.

Especially as he wont be picking the team and wont even be there.
Has GHoul even met the players yet?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 10, 2010, 11:27:52 AM
No.Middle of next week by all accounts :-\
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: whydelilah on September 10, 2010, 12:18:57 PM
Stokie (in peace).

What’s the general feeling with Houllier’s appointment? Good, bad, indifferent?

What are your expectations for the game?

As for us, I think you’ll see Gudjohnsen and Pennant start on the bench, Kenwyne Jones will no doubt make his home debut and Wilson will also probably make his first appearance. I expect our team to be: -

Sorensen
Huth Shawcross Faye Collins
Walters Wilson Whitehead Etherington
KJ Fuller

Bench:
Gudjohnsen
Tuncay
Pennant
Delap
Whelan
Higginbotham
Begovic

I fancy us for a draw. We need to get off the mark.

WD
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on September 10, 2010, 12:34:03 PM
The majority of us are happy with the appointment.

I think we'll get a point and I'll be pretty happy with that too.

What I'm hoping our team will be;

--------------------------------------Friedel-----------------------------------------


L Young--------------Cuellar/Collins--------Dunne-------------------Warnock


Albrighton------------Petrov------------------Reo-Coker--------------A Young


-------------------------------------Ireland-------------------------------------------


-----------------------------------Agbonlahor----------------------------------------


Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on September 10, 2010, 01:04:13 PM
2-1 Stoke.

Although Stoke are an obviously phsyical side I want us to line up with Ireland and Stan in the middle. They hardly play through midfield so it shouldn't bother us too much.

I'd drop Warnock, move Luke to LB and bring Cuellar in for the additional height though.

Friedel
Cuellar - Collins - Dunne - Young
Albrighton - Petrov - Ireland - Young
Gabby - Carew

Would be my team.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: whydelilah on September 10, 2010, 01:05:30 PM
2-1 Stoke.

I'd settle for that!!
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Griffy1987 on September 10, 2010, 01:12:51 PM
2-1 Stoke.

Although Stoke are an obviously phsyical side I want us to line up with Ireland and Stan in the middle. They hardly play through midfield so it shouldn't bother us too much.

I'd drop Warnock, move Luke to LB and bring Cuellar in for the additional height though.

Friedel
Cuellar - Collins - Dunne - Young
Albrighton - Petrov - Ireland - Young
Gabby - Carew

Would be my team.


Warnock has, in my opinion, Upped his game since the Newcastle debacle... Probably something to do with him getting rid of those white boots!!

But i wouldnt drop him..

Up The Villa!!
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 10, 2010, 01:24:00 PM
2-2.

I'd think about playing a back 5 tbh so Carlos, Collins and Dunney all starting to combat their long throws.

Also last year on their small pitch our wide men made little impact so I'd rest Albrighton as I fear he might get lost in the land of the giants, have Ireland, NRC and Petrov as a midfield trio and Young in the hole behind Carew or Gabby if Big John dosen't make it.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: whydelilah on September 10, 2010, 01:28:19 PM
2-2.

I'd think about playing a back 5 tbh so Carlos, Collins and Dunney all starting to combat their long throws.

Also last year on their small pitch our wide men made little impact so I'd rest Albrighton as I fear he might get lost in the land of the giants, have Ireland, NRC and Petrov as a midfield trio and Young in the hole behind Carew or Gabby if Big John dosen't make it.

There's a good chance Delap will be on the bench.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 10, 2010, 01:29:48 PM
I just hope Kevin Mac has learnt a thing or two since the Newcastle game otherwise we'll get bullied again. NRC needs to start with either Albrighton or Downing dropping out. It's going to be a very tough game but I really hope we get the win, apart from the obvious reasons, I'd like to see us give a performance Kevin Mac deserves for all the hard work and effort he's put in this last month.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 10, 2010, 01:30:24 PM
I don't see why we'd need five at the back.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 10, 2010, 06:37:06 PM
Quote
2-2.

I'd think about playing a back 5 tbh so Carlos, Collins and Dunney all starting to combat their long throws.

Also last year on their small pitch our wide men made little impact so I'd rest Albrighton as I fear he might get lost in the land of the giants, have Ireland, NRC and Petrov as a midfield trio and Young in the hole behind Carew or Gabby if Big John dosen't make it.
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I think this would be a big risk, and would possibly just invite pressure. I think we should seek to keep the ball as the best means of defence. So I'd agree with 3 in midfield - NRC, Petrov, Ireland  - and I'd play Young and Downing wide, but be ready to bring Albrighton on for Downing if he's too wimpish inthe first half.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Situation on September 10, 2010, 06:54:28 PM
You've just got to look at Stoke's midfield to see how crap it is... Whitehead, err who? We should overrun them if we play 5 in the middle, but the best tactic is to take loads of shots at Sorensen when given the oppotunity; its about time he has an A+ fumble.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 10, 2010, 07:47:51 PM
Stoke to win this 2-0 for me I'm afraid...got bad vibes about this - on the telly, a demotivated temporary manager and their new signings
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 10, 2010, 07:50:49 PM
Stoke to win this 2-0 for me I'm afraid...got bad vibes about this - on the telly, a demotivated temporary manager and their new signings

A team selection hoping to prove a point to their watching new manager? A squad trying to impress and get picked to play on a regular basis?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfc_1874 on September 10, 2010, 07:58:26 PM
Sceptical about this one. 2-0 Stoke.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on September 10, 2010, 11:44:05 PM
I would play:

....................................Friedal.................................................
Young............Dunne..........Collins.............Warnock.................
........................Petrov........Reo-Coker.....................................
Albrighton....................Ireland......................Young.................
.......................................Gabby...............................................

Play them off the pitch and forget their long bastard throw ins.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bunny@Stoke on September 11, 2010, 12:45:26 AM
come on folks, expected better thanshit football...long throw...anti football etc we get from every other set of support.

The 3-2 was a great game
the 2-2 we were hammered and got out of jail
the 0-1 we deserved at least a point with Tuncay the best player on the pitch
the 0-0 was dreadful.

We've earned the right to be where we are. A bit of respect etc......


1-1 for me.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 11, 2010, 01:30:00 AM
Well what do you expect? The last game had more in common with the First World War, such was the endless and monotonous barrage of throw-in, after throw-in, after throw-in... We’d all essentially paid £30 to watch Delap throw the ball and Richard Dunne head it away.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on September 11, 2010, 01:41:56 AM
You've got respect, your a bloody hard team to play against and are rightly were you deserve to be, having said that last seasons game was just woeful, which was mainly down to the constant long throws from both teams, we were just as guilty as you on that one, i can't remember ever going to a game with so little talking points, literally nothing happened for 90 minutes
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 11, 2010, 04:28:03 AM
Spurs were jammy enough to win there thanks to monkey man's belter and the ref not seeing the ball cross the line for Stoke. Not sure we'll be so lucky.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 11, 2010, 07:43:41 AM
Heeeeeeeeeres Lawro:

MONDAY

Stoke v Aston Villa (2000 BST)

 
I fancy Stoke here. They've struggled so far, but they've made a few good signings and they look like they're going to be a better side - playing a little more football, but still retaining that physical element that causes so many problems for visitors to the Britannia Stadium.

It is, of course, Gerard Houllier's first match in charge of Villa - but this is a real tough start for him.

The Frenchman is a decent appointment for Villa. He's experienced and has a great knowledge of players across European football. Yes, he bought a few duds when he was at Liverpool, but maybe he'll bring in a few gems now he's at Villa.

It will all take a while for this to settle in, though, and I think it will be very difficult for Villa to maintain their position as top-six regulars this campaign.

Prediction: 2-0
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on September 11, 2010, 08:35:29 AM

....................................Friedel.................................................
Young............Dunne..........Collins.............Warnock.................
........................Petrov........Reo-Coker.....................................
Albrighton....................Ireland......................Young.................
.......................................Gabby...............................................

Best starting 11 for us up there. We need players who are goingto put a shift in - which leaves
Carew and Downing way down the pecking order.

Would be happy with a draw - but they have not had a great start and if we get the first goal I would
hope to pick up all 3 points.

(On a final point , time to get behind the team, the new manager and the club again now. MON well and truly fucked us over
leaving the way he did - and no matter how good your wedding day was , if later your Mrs fucks off with your kids you are always going to hate her)

Come on you lions !! 
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 11, 2010, 10:11:39 AM
Good side and close to the one I'd play but I think Collins is injured and so Cuellar should start.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bunny@Stoke on September 11, 2010, 12:11:46 PM
thought Carew was the best attacking player on the pitch in last season's bore-fest at The Brit (where Cuellar chucked it long as many times as Tessa/Fatima).

His height is also useful at both ends of the pitch too.

I've changed my opinion on the score. We might be stuck between two footballing stools after buying better quality.

0-1 sh** game.  >:(
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on September 11, 2010, 12:47:03 PM
thought Carew was the best attacking player on the pitch in last season's bore-fest at The Brit (where Cuellar chucked it long as many times as Tessa/Fatima).

His height is also useful at both ends of the pitch too.

I've changed my opinion on the score. We might be stuck between two footballing stools after buying better quality.

0-1 sh** game.  >:(
even though you've signed some good technical players recently I still think you'll adopt the physical approach for this game, Tony Pulis is a coach I rate and he would've noticed how we got totally bullied up at Newcastle and embarrasingly crumbled, i fully expect you to play the same way
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on September 11, 2010, 01:18:57 PM
A tough game, but we may get a point in a 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on September 11, 2010, 02:14:54 PM
Ireland is out for this game isn't he?  Anyway, 1-1. Gabby to equalise late on.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on September 11, 2010, 06:04:22 PM
Mac remember what happened at Newcastle. Play five in midfield with gabby up front and Ireland and ash pushing up to help Gabby. We need at least a point and need to hold onto the ball longer ............
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 11, 2010, 06:17:26 PM
Ireland is out for this game isn't he?  Anyway, 1-1. Gabby to equalise late on.

Ireland out ??? News to me ...............
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 11, 2010, 06:35:48 PM
So who is actually in charge for this game? Is MacDonald acting on Houllier's instructions or is he doing it all himself?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 11, 2010, 06:51:05 PM
Kevin Mac in charge.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nick harper on September 11, 2010, 06:55:59 PM
So who is actually in charge for this game? Is MacDonald acting on Houllier's instructions or is he doing it all himself?

I expect the general state of limbo the club are in will be reflected on the pitch. God knows what MacDonald must be thinking about the situation he's still in - probably feeling sulky and lacking motivation.

No idea whether Ireland is fit, but we will be in serious trouble if he plans to play the same side as he would have done if Ireland hadn't gone lame pre-match against Everton.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 11, 2010, 08:50:02 PM
Yes, we're in danger of being bullied in this one. It points to a 5 man midfield, or certainly not a 4 man one with Downing, Albrighton and Ireland in it!
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 11, 2010, 08:56:04 PM
So who is actually in charge for this game? Is MacDonald acting on Houllier's instructions or is he doing it all himself?

I expect the general state of limbo the club are in will be reflected on the pitch. God knows what MacDonald must be thinking about the situation he's still in - probably feeling sulky and lacking motivation.

No idea whether Ireland is fit, but we will be in serious trouble if he plans to play the same side as he would have done if Ireland hadn't gone lame pre-match against Everton.

I expect he will be so demotivated that he will stay in the dug out and not come near the pitch shouting instructions to the players. I also expect him to not change the team even when it is obvious what needs to be done and make the wrong subs even when he does make them.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 11, 2010, 09:31:16 PM
2-2.

I'd think about playing a back 5 tbh so Carlos, Collins and Dunney all starting to combat their long throws.

Also last year on their small pitch our wide men made little impact so I'd rest Albrighton as I fear he might get lost in the land of the giants, have Ireland, NRC and Petrov as a midfield trio and Young in the hole behind Carew or Gabby if Big John dosen't make it.

There's a good chance Delap will be on the bench.

I can't remember the last home game when he's been fit Delap actually hasn't started with how narrowe the pitch is at the Brit, a few away games you left him out but can't remember a home game he didn't start last season.

Big boost for us imo if you don't start him, you can defend 99% of throw ins well, switch off for one and lose the game as we found out to our cost two years ago.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 11, 2010, 09:35:50 PM
Oh and Stoke get plenty of respect I'd say (well apart from North London).

You still get plenty of comments that "The Britannia is a tough place to go..." even though actually you've lost a fair few games at home in 2010!

Can't help liking Pulis either even though I don't agree with ways he plays the game especially as he's got a lot of technically gifted players in his squad now like Pennant, Gudjohnson, Tuncay etc.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 12, 2010, 10:24:22 AM
To be honest, Stoke is the sort of place that we ought to be going to with complete confidence that a win is very do-able by now.

Sadly, it's the sort of place where Downing will hide away and Ashley will be chasing after the ref after every decision that goes against us.

Hopefully Ireland will be playing, we need his guile in the middle.

Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on September 12, 2010, 11:57:52 AM
Ireland is out for this game isn't he?  Anyway, 1-1. Gabby to equalise late on.

Ireland out ??? News to me ...............

Really?  The same Ireland who pulled his Hamstring before the Everton game? 

I hope you're right and he plays but I can't see him starting.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on September 12, 2010, 12:29:22 PM
going to be a tight 1-0 win for villa!Gabby to score
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 12, 2010, 12:38:44 PM
Don't fancy this at all, I'm at a wedding as well during the game. I hope I'll be pleasantly suprised when I see the result.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 12, 2010, 03:00:45 PM
I just can't imagine Downing having a good game in this one. Plus it may well be worth getting some height in the team, as well as fight. I'd still play Young at right back, but possibly worth playing Carew or Heskey, with Gabby and Ash wide? Ireland. NRC and Petrov in the middle?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on September 12, 2010, 05:00:17 PM
Are there any tickets left?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mozza on September 12, 2010, 09:44:28 PM
Stoke in bottom three...............we could go into third with a win

You just know we will bottle it if the likes of Downing are selected

There's been no update that I'm aware on Ireland's 'pulled calf' so
I don't reckon he will be playing

2-1 home win (sorry KMac) 
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on September 12, 2010, 10:01:21 PM
One of those season defining games for us this one. The most important thing coming into this game is seeing how we play. The games that have gone, coupled with the most bizarre, laughable, management arrangements in place at the moment, make this game vital.

We started well in the season, but that 6-0 is looking worse and worse. the defeat at home to Rapid was abject and the win over Everton left more questions unanswered than answered. for all the good work defensively in that game we had the fall of the ball every single time, which very rarely happens. All their flicks went narrowly wide, the hit the woodwork and were forcing corner after corner at the end. It was awful to watch as we did not look like a team with a lot of belief in our own abilities. We snuck it 1-0 and no-one would argue if Everton had have scorred when they had time to digest the whole game.

We look vulnerable to me through the middle of midfield. Very vulnerable. I'd like to see Ash moved back tp the left but that's another thing, I want to see us take the game to Stoke, as we should be doing, and being able to get the ball back in midfield when we lose. nothing to do with this being against Stoke but this game was always going to be vital.

Play poorly again and we could be looking at a season where reaching 12th would be an achievement, but play well and we could be starting to prove evryone wrong, including many of us, and start to look like a decent side again.

Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on September 12, 2010, 10:36:00 PM
Play 4-4-2 with Downing and we will get mullered, be v happy with a point
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: littlevillain on September 12, 2010, 10:49:17 PM
Are there any tickets left?
allocation was 2,900, and they're still advertising it on the official website so not sold out yet I think.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on September 12, 2010, 10:52:18 PM
I wouldn't grumble at a point. I'll go for a 1-1. A late Stoke goal to cancel out Gabby's opener.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: placeforparks on September 12, 2010, 11:19:17 PM
2-0 to stoke.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 12, 2010, 11:38:56 PM
To be honest, Stoke is the sort of place that we ought to be going to with complete confidence that a win is very do-able by now.

I disagree.

I don't think anyone goes to Stoke with particular confidence. It is a very tough place to go.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 13, 2010, 07:34:39 AM
I know what you mean, but in the context of the development of our club ( i.e. we've been in the top flght since the year dot) and taking into account the money spent on 'talent' over the past few years under RL, the fact that we face Stoke with a certain amount of trepidation is perplexingly painful to me.

I just hope we stay tight at the back, Friedel controls his area and our MF / strikers do enough to get the 3 points.

I'm really looking forward to this one.

Is Ireland fit does anyone know ?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on September 13, 2010, 08:39:03 AM
We should be going there expecting to win although it will be tough. But with all the hullabaloo around our club at the moment it depends which side turn up.

But they're bottom of the league with no points and we have a lot of good players who should be rested and up for it to impress the new manager, so I'll go for a narrow win.

2-1 Villa.

I would go thusly:

------------------------Friedel

Young---------Collins--------Dunne-------Warnock

-----------------Reo Coker----Petrov

Albrighton-----------Ireland---------------Young

---------------------Agbonlahor
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on September 13, 2010, 09:53:02 AM
We will lose to a really silly late goal. I'm thinking set piece, I'm thinking nobody on the posts, I'm thinking Brad pointing at people and shouting
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: whydelilah on September 13, 2010, 09:59:17 AM
2-2.

I'd think about playing a back 5 tbh so Carlos, Collins and Dunney all starting to combat their long throws.

Also last year on their small pitch our wide men made little impact so I'd rest Albrighton as I fear he might get lost in the land of the giants, have Ireland, NRC and Petrov as a midfield trio and Young in the hole behind Carew or Gabby if Big John dosen't make it.

There's a good chance Delap will be on the bench.

I can't remember the last home game when he's been fit Delap actually hasn't started with how narrowe the pitch is at the Brit, a few away games you left him out but can't remember a home game he didn't start last season.

Big boost for us imo if you don't start him, you can defend 99% of throw ins well, switch off for one and lose the game as we found out to our cost two years ago.

That is true.

We have just brought Marc Wilson in though and I very much see him being the selection in the middle with Whitehead.

Delap has been shoehorned into our team on the right of midfield in recent months (which he has been pretty poor at in all honesty) but we now have Walters and Pennant to fill that void so I expect Rory's chances to be much more restricted now.

We aren't getting much joy out ogf his throws anymore anyway, we are a lot less dependent on it.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on September 13, 2010, 10:10:33 AM
Play three in the centre of midfield, with Ash, Gabby and young Albrighton up front and we should be lethal on the break!
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on September 13, 2010, 10:38:55 AM
Anyone know if theres any tickets remaining and if there will be any on sale at Stoke tonight? Can't get through to the ticket office.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on September 13, 2010, 10:52:19 AM
The chance to go third and send a message out to the rest of the League - points to a defeat doesn`t it?

Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 13, 2010, 10:54:52 AM
The chance to go third and send a message out to the rest of the League - points to a defeat doesn`t it



Yep!  I've got an awful feeling about this game :(
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on September 13, 2010, 11:01:59 AM
Less confident about this one this morning. Though perhaps that's because we've had to wait all weekend for it.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 13, 2010, 11:30:16 AM
Anyone know if theres any tickets remaining and if there will be any on sale at Stoke tonight? Can't get through to the ticket office.

Yes there are BV. Very poor turnout for this one. A good couple hundred tickets are still left for what is a trip that even with the speed cameras and even with rush-hour, will still only take an hour at the most to make.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on September 13, 2010, 11:44:58 AM
Anyone know if theres any tickets remaining and if there will be any on sale at Stoke tonight? Can't get through to the ticket office.

Yes there are BV. Very poor turnout for this one. A good couple hundred tickets are still left for what is a trip that even with the speed cameras and even with rush-hour, will still only take an hour at the most to make.
Cheers mate. I agree, a lot of our fans like to think we've got the best away support in the league but we aren't even close, we can't even take 3000 fans an hour up the road, we couldn't shift 2300 tickets at Newcastle first away of the season, we can't sell out at Wolves which is even closer than Stoke and we've only got 1700 for Spurs when they bring 3000 here every season. Shit support my lord...
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 13, 2010, 11:48:49 AM
Wolves is very close to selling out mind.

In other news Carew, Ireland, Collins and Sidwell are all fit for selection.

Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on September 13, 2010, 11:50:54 AM
Quote
Shit support my lord...

I'm really sorry if I've got the wrong person here ( and I'll happily delete this post) but are you the same BCV who was on here earlier in the year, telling us we were all mugs for paying money to watch Villa and that you preferred watching us in the pub with your mates?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 13, 2010, 11:52:29 AM
I think you've got the wrong one Chico.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on September 13, 2010, 11:59:14 AM
Quote
Shit support my lord...

I'm really sorry if I've got the wrong person here ( and I'll happily delete this post) but are you the same BCV who was on here earlier in the year, telling us we were all mugs for paying money to watch Villa and that you preferred watching us in the pub with your mates?

I think this is the guy that thinks "fuck everyone else, I'll stand up if I like".

I may also have the wrong person.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: whydelilah on September 13, 2010, 12:17:27 PM
Anyone know if theres any tickets remaining and if there will be any on sale at Stoke tonight? Can't get through to the ticket office.

Yes there are BV. Very poor turnout for this one. A good couple hundred tickets are still left for what is a trip that even with the speed cameras and even with rush-hour, will still only take an hour at the most to make.

One of the evils of Monday night football coupled with Sky coverage.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pants on September 13, 2010, 12:47:10 PM
Loving some of the optimism on here but I'm afraid I don't share it. Stoke haven't had the credit they deserve the last couple of years, the media focus on the Delap throw in phenomenon and ignore that some of the other players ain't half bad.

Add the fact it's on the box and a night atmospahere at The Brit & I reckon a 2-1 defeat.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on September 13, 2010, 12:50:51 PM
3-1 Stoke. We will get a battering there, make no mistake. Collins has to be fit and firing if we are to have any chance, but I am not too hopeful.


Would play the same team as PTV, although if Collins is fit he has to start with Dunne.

Downing is not a player who you should consider to start at Stoke.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on September 13, 2010, 01:04:01 PM
Really difficult one to predict, what with all that's gone on.

I don't think it's going to be pretty and I think it'll be a draw.  1-1
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 13, 2010, 01:06:37 PM
Play three in the centre of midfield, with Ash, Gabby and young Albrighton up front and we should be lethal on the break!

As long as we finish.

Another subject entirely, but I do have some concern about our ability to score goals this season unless more come from midfield.

GH to address in January, he just has to.

Re. Downing, i've noticed he's being vocal again about KevMac being a top man etc.....Note to Downing - less creeping, more action.



Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 13, 2010, 01:16:02 PM
Really difficult one to predict, what with all that's gone on.

I don't think it's going to be pretty and I think it'll be a draw.  1-1

The Britannia is nowhere near as tough a place to go as people think. They’ve got a similar myth going as the Pashtun’s have over Afghanistan and how “you can never win there”, which is of course nonsense as people have done and will continue to.

However, the fact they’re without a point and that we haven’t drawn yet leads me to agree with you that there can only be one result and that will be a share of the points. 

The big question is whether this will live up to the classic that was last seasons 0-0 thriller?!

Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on September 13, 2010, 01:46:17 PM
Really difficult one to predict, what with all that's gone on.

I don't think it's going to be pretty and I think it'll be a draw.  1-1

The Britannia is nowhere near as tough a place to go as people think. They’ve got a similar myth going as the Pashtun’s have over Afghanistan and how “you can never win there”, which is of course nonsense as people have done and will continue to.

However, the fact they’re without a point and that we haven’t drawn yet leads me to agree with you that there can only be one result and that will be a share of the points. 

The big question is whether this will live up to the classic that was last seasons 0-0 thriller?!



Last season's 0-0 bore was one of the worst games in living memory.

I'm also going for 1-1 tonight. If we can get 7 points from our next 3 games that will be fantastic. And its very achievable against Stoke, Bolton and Wolves.

Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bald Eagle on September 13, 2010, 01:57:21 PM
3-2 to the villa. Surely on this seasons early form we can win this one.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: whydelilah on September 13, 2010, 02:08:26 PM
3-1 Stoke. We will get a battering there, make no mistake. Collins has to be fit and firing if we are to have any chance, but I am not too hopeful.


Would play the same team as PTV, although if Collins is fit he has to start with Dunne.

Downing is not a player who you should consider to start at Stoke.


I'd be suprised if we "batter" you!!
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on September 13, 2010, 02:12:58 PM
3-2 to the villa. Surely on this seasons early form we can win this one.

Showing the form of the last two games that outcome would be less than likely, unless Stoke are West Ham poor at the moment.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on September 13, 2010, 02:14:37 PM
Any idea on ticket sales?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Boucher on September 13, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
No confidence at all tonight.

GH isn't even watching, so there's no new manager to impress & Kmac isn't likely to be too fired-up for it either, given his forthcoming demotion.  Also, his naivety at Newcastle was scary & Stoke will play a similar way to them, but with better players

2-0 Stoke

See you there!
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 13, 2010, 02:29:04 PM
No confidence at all tonight.

GH isn't even watching, so there's no new manager to impress & Kmac isn't likely to be too fired-up for it either, given his forthcoming demotion.  Also, his naivety at Newcastle was scary & Stoke will play a similar way to them, but with better players

2-0 Stoke

See you there!

GH will be watching at some point,so hopefully the team will  still want to impress.KMac is a true pro so hopefully will be just as motivated.That said I'm not feeling very positive either
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on September 13, 2010, 02:45:07 PM
Given that our rivals for 4th have all started slowly this is a real opportunity to get ahead of 'em good and early. So in agreeing with some previous comments in that Collins must play well and Downing must not play at all I will say 2 or 3 nil to Villa.

COME ON !
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: abc123cox on September 13, 2010, 02:45:39 PM
2 - 0 to Villa!!

Downing and Ireland if fit!
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on September 13, 2010, 03:04:14 PM
1-0 Villa, Agbonlahor to get off the mark.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: usav on September 13, 2010, 03:09:12 PM
He's already off the mark.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: j66acd on September 13, 2010, 03:14:07 PM
Definitely need reo-Coker starting tonight. And as the midfield will probably small and a bit lightweight compared to Stokes might be worth playing heskey even if it's just for a physical presence. Big John doesn't put himself about, although he has got a decent record against them, scored three I think. Can see it being tight with just 1 goal in it can't make my mind up though.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on September 13, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
I hope to god he doesn't play Downing. He's rubbish and a bottler at the best of times, he'll shit himself against Stoke.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 13, 2010, 03:38:48 PM
Where's the poll?

Very hard faught draw
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 13, 2010, 03:39:39 PM
He's already off the mark.

Not in the league
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: myf on September 13, 2010, 03:54:07 PM
I have a bad feeling about this one - similar set up to Newcastle...

2 nil Stoke.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: asgpaul on September 13, 2010, 03:55:11 PM
Does anyone know whether Ireland is fit to play?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on September 13, 2010, 04:23:41 PM
Want to be positive, but finding the best result that seems realistic in my opinion is a draw, because although most people can see the best formation for this game would be a 4-5-1 to attempt to retain possession, can't help but think we'll go 4-4-2.

1-1
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on September 13, 2010, 05:23:44 PM
Ireland, Carew, Collins & Sidwell all fit for consideration apparently.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pav on September 13, 2010, 05:25:35 PM
 ;D great news if above are fit
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 13, 2010, 05:50:48 PM
I don't know about anybody else but the nerves are kicking in and have been all day. We really need the win today to sweep away all the bullshit of the last few weeks. I really hope the players are up for it big time tonight.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: asgpaul on September 13, 2010, 06:02:26 PM
Ireland, Carew, Collins & Sidwell all fit for consideration apparently.

Thanks Matt.  Good news.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on September 13, 2010, 06:11:41 PM
I'm going to say a hard fought 2-1 victory for villa.

Ireland and Gabby for us.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jonny Recession on September 13, 2010, 06:22:52 PM
Can't wait for this. I'm expecting villa to be very cautious and invite pressure. Looking at the probable Stoke starting midfield I don't think we should be too worried if we play 5 in midfield. Take etherington out and bearing in mind that Pennant should start on the bench we can expect them to play down the left a lot. The other three midfielders are stoppers to try get around Ashley and Marc at every opportunity. Where Stoke will catch us I feel (and on more therm one occasion) is set pieces. If I was KMac I would be setting up with Luke right back to counter act Etherington and I'd play NRC very deep. I'd tell petrov to kick all round him which he seems to be getting good at and I'd play Ireland off the front man.

No way should Stewie get a start. I know Albrighton is young and at times shows his naivety but his work rate is in paralleled and we will need Ashley and him to put in as big an effort in our half as I'm sure they will in theirs.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on September 13, 2010, 06:32:13 PM
I've got 2 spare tickets if anyone's interested - both for £30  (half price) but need to collect from Selly Oak.

PM me if interested.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on September 13, 2010, 06:34:05 PM
I really can't see us winning tonight.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hipkiss92 on September 13, 2010, 06:46:51 PM
2-0 Villa
Gabby and Collins Snr.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: boboonthecorner on September 13, 2010, 06:49:49 PM
3-1 Stoke. Wasteful finishing and crap defending to cost us again......
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on September 13, 2010, 06:57:13 PM
If we pick the right team we'll win, if he does it without any regard to the opposition again we'll get stuffed.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on September 13, 2010, 07:00:35 PM
4-4-2 = Defeat.

4-5-1 = Draw/Win
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 13, 2010, 07:02:02 PM
If we pick the right team we'll win, if he does it without any regard to the opposition again we'll get stuffed.
If that's your way of saying drop Downing for this one, I'd agree. It's going to be a tough battle and we can't afford to carry any passengers, nevermind a dead donkey.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on September 13, 2010, 07:09:02 PM
Pennant and Gudjohnsen on the bench.

Wilson starts for Stoke. Delap starts so we can expect the throws.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on September 13, 2010, 07:09:46 PM
Friedel
Young - Collins - Dunne - Warnock
Albrighton - NRC - Petrov - Downing
Young
Gabby

No Carew or Ireland.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on September 13, 2010, 07:17:40 PM
Carew and Ireland doubtful.

Not expecting much, Stoke are a well drilled outfit who raise their game at home.
But would like to see how Ireland gets on if we were to play a CM containing Petrov and NRC behind him.

4-5-1 with NRC and Petrov in the side =  2-2
4-4-2 or 4-5-1 with Ireland deep = 0-2 or 1-3 to them
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 13, 2010, 07:18:14 PM
Downing again.. FFS
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Reality on September 13, 2010, 07:24:06 PM
Downing needs a serious kick up the backside.

Every time I am pessimistic about us playing we usually win. I am like that now, so here's hoping.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on September 13, 2010, 07:31:36 PM
I fear for us with that line up sadly.

Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on September 13, 2010, 07:33:47 PM
Our bench is awful.  Stoke's bench is far better than ours.  Shocking.

22 Guzan, 23 Beye, 24 Cuellar, 47 Clark, 09 Ireland, 50 Hogg, 18 Heskey


01 Begovic, 03 Higginbotham, 28 Wilkinson, 06 Whelan, 16 Pennant, 07 Gudjohnsen, 10 Fuller


Anyone agree?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on September 13, 2010, 07:44:37 PM
Our bench is awful.  Stoke's bench is far better than ours.  Shocking.

22 Guzan, 23 Beye, 24 Cuellar, 47 Clark, 09 Ireland, 50 Hogg, 18 Heskey


01 Begovic, 03 Higginbotham, 28 Wilkinson, 06 Whelan, 16 Pennant, 07 Gudjohnsen, 10 Fuller


Anyone agree?

No
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on September 13, 2010, 07:48:23 PM
Our bench is awful.  Stoke's bench is far better than ours.  Shocking.

22 Guzan, 23 Beye, 24 Cuellar, 47 Clark, 09 Ireland, 50 Hogg, 18 Heskey


01 Begovic, 03 Higginbotham, 28 Wilkinson, 06 Whelan, 16 Pennant, 07 Gudjohnsen, 10 Fuller


Anyone agree?

Yes
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Situation on September 13, 2010, 07:54:35 PM
Downing and Petrov better have the game of their lives tonight.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on September 13, 2010, 07:57:04 PM
Our bench is awful.  Stoke's bench is far better than ours.  Shocking.

22 Guzan, 23 Beye, 24 Cuellar, 47 Clark, 09 Ireland, 50 Hogg, 18 Heskey
Wheres the Fonz?

01 Begovic, 03 Higginbotham, 28 Wilkinson, 06 Whelan, 16 Pennant, 07 Gudjohnsen, 10 Fuller


Anyone agree?

Yes
Where is the Fonz?
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 13, 2010, 08:18:44 PM
This just doesn't have a good feel about it for me. Albrightons made a good start tho.
Title: Re: Stoke City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 14, 2010, 07:42:12 PM
It would have been 0-2 to Villa, but I did not start the thread...
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