Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: west sussex villan on September 06, 2010, 09:23:12 PM
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If not Thompson then who else?
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Me.
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If the board think he's the right man and he subsequently thinks thompson is the right man then I'm not going to argue. If it turns out bad then so be it, but we've gotta go with the decisions they make.
Any attempt by the board to not let him pick his assistant would make us a joke.
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without, i can just about stomach houllier but thompson, no way
ever since that " oneil got ASTON VILLA, im saying ASTON VILLA to 6th,
cheeky prick
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A manager has to be allowed to make his appointments, anything else and he's just a stooge of the board. If he wants Thompson then he should get him. What next the board telling him which players to sign, what formation to pick and who to have on the subs bench?
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If GH wants him then I'm happy with that.
Same if he doesn't want him.
Let the bloke bring in who he feels is needed for the job.
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I'm not overly keen on GH, let alone the fact him coming possibly meaning our best coach in years leaving us. The only crumb of comfort I took from GH coming was that K-Mac was still in there - if he's not then I'd rather keep K-Mac in charge until Xmas and await a better manager.
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If he comes, Houllier has to be allowed to bring in staff as he sees fit, same as any other manager. I hope that means Kevin MacDonald can continue his great work with the youth team; if Houllier has any sense he'll let him do just that.
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If the board think he's the right man and he subsequently thinks thompson is the right man then I'm not going to argue. If it turns out bad then so be it, but we've gotta go with the decisions they make.
Any attempt by the board to not let him pick his assistant would make us a joke.
I agree. Altho I also really hope KM stays at the club and remains a happy camper.
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Without Thompson but with Ian Dowie and Paul Merson.
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With. At Southampton.
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The telegraph are reporting that the hold up on GH being confirmed is over the coaching role, Randy wants KM as first team coach for continuity and GH wants Thomson.
So we are becoming a laughing stock now!
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Ian Taylor and Juan Pablo Angel.
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The telegraph are reporting that the hold up on GH being confirmed is over the coaching role, Randy wants KM as first team coach for continuity and GH wants Thomson.
So we are becoming a laughing stock now!
How do you work that one out?
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Because we could now loose KM if he has to go back to the reserves.
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I'm just pissed off because I can't Decide weather Gerrard is gonna be a good appointment.
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I'm just pissed off because I can't Decide weather Gerrard is gonna be a good appointment.
The way I look at it is it's for a couple of years at most. In that time he might set up a scouting system that will unearth the next Vierra, Henry and Anelka. And if it's going wrong a few months down the line we've got until next August to throw money at getting a new manager.
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Because we could now loose KM if he has to go back to the reserves.
so what? He's a very good coach, but he has to happy with the new set up. If he's not, the manager shouldn't have to make allowance for him. It will just be a unneccessary distraction if KM cannot find peace with the choice of manager. Ideally he'll stay, but in the grand scheme of things, he's expendable.
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The way I look at it is it's for a couple of years at most. In that time he might set up a scouting system that will unearth the next Vierra, Henry and Anelka. And if it's going wrong a few months down the line we've got until next August to throw money at getting a new manager.
I think that's right. Which is why it's difficult to be either too enthusiastic or too despondent, should Houllier get it.
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Hopefully. You never know this could be a turning point in our history.
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I detest Phil Thompson.
However, if Gerard Houllier wants him and he's to be our new manager then he should have him. I suppose. The twat.
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Gerald need an truthworthy alliance to help to keep an eye on things which he can't do everything himself. As long we have MacDonald and another former villa player added to coaching staff to work with GH and PT.
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Phil Thompson at Villa? People have made some compelling arguments here about his success as a player, his winning attitude, mentality etc. Despite all this, though, I just don't want him at our club. It strikes me that he is a one club man. I can't see him totally buying into Villa and believing that we can best his beloved Liverpool or Man Utd. I can imagine him in the dressing room giving off the vibe that if we scrape a draw against "such clubs" it would be a good result for Villa.
He's just not the man for me.
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Reasonably happy with Houllier, but i really am struggling with Phil Thompson. He's so devoted to Liverpool as a club, i just can't see that his heart would really be in it. That's without taking in to consideration my misgivings about the bloke as a person. I'd rather not have him, but i'd rather have an experienced manager and a scouser for an assistant than an inexperienced bloke who if we're honest led us to lose 6-0 to newcastle (a defeat made all the worse as my mate and fifa buddy just happens to be a newcastle fan).
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I'd be happy with whoever Houllier wants. I would prefer McDonald as he deserves a chance and I think he would make a good first team coach. He also knows all of the young players.
Ultimately, whoever the board and Houllier decide on is fine by me. Heven't voted because the options don't cover what I feel.
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The Objection to Thompson seems to be on the basis of how irritating he is on Sky Sports, I can't see what bearing that has on his coaching ability.
If Houllier wants him, that's up to him, he's the main man.
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I detest Phil Thompson.
However, if Gerard Houllier wants him and he's to be our new manager then he should have him. I suppose. The twat.
I think this just about sums up my view, rather eloquently and succinctly too I might add...
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Sky have already revealed it WILL be thommo as assistant manager- and as he worked for them they should know, no might bes or maybes about it!
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If we are getting our assistant manager from Sky, Jeff Stelling knows his football. Or how about bringing in one of the fit girls from Sky sports news?
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Friedel on Houllier and Thompson (2009) (http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/09/07/friedel-on-phil-thompson-and-houllier-it-is-not-good-from-2009-avfc/)
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I dont think K Mac will stay very long now. I dont think he should have been alowed to apply, cos it was just a token gesture from Randy. Now he is in the position we all know of from work, where we have applied for a job that we think we can do and the bosses have bought in someone from outside. You then think u have to move to get on.
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With. An incoming manager should have the right to choose his assistant manager.
Re the Telegraph: surely GH as manager, with PT assistant and KMac first team coach wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility? A three-strong management/coaching team?
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If we are getting our assistant manager from Sky, Jeff Stelling knows his football. Or how about bringing in one of the fit girls from Sky sports news?
Made me smile, what a grand idea!
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As long as they get success i dont mind who he bring's in.
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I find it strange that Houlier would want the job with strings attached.
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As others have said I think it is vital that whoever the manager is gets to chose whoever he wants in in his coaching team.
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I find it strange that Houlier would want the job with strings attached.
He asked Thompson that very question, he answered:
I've got no strings
To hold me down
To make me fret, or make me frown
I had strings
But now I'm free
There are no strings on me
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If we are getting our assistant manager from Sky, Jeff Stelling knows his football. Or how about bringing in one of the fit girls from Sky sports news?
Made me smile, what a grand idea!
Yeah lets get Millie Clode on the pitch as a cheerleader Mmmmm
Back on topic, If that's who GH want's then so be it, All I want is whats best for Aston Villa FC
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I voted 'with'. Not because I like Pinnochio, but because I think whoever gets the job has to pick their own staff.
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I dont think K Mac will stay very long now. I dont think he should have been alowed to apply, cos it was just a token gesture from Randy. Now he is in the position we all know of from work, where we have applied for a job that we think we can do and the bosses have bought in someone from outside. You then think u have to move to get on.
Kev was the board's number one choice for the job, until results went against him. If we'd not been thumped by Newcastle, and even then if we'd got past Rapid, he'd be manager now.
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I blame Carew.
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/gallery/newcastle-united-6-0-aston-villa/newcastle-united-aston-villa-2.jpg)
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Kev was the board's number one choice for the job, until results went against him. If we'd not been thumped by Newcastle, and even then if we'd got past Rapid, he'd be manager now.
If he was their first choice and results proved him not good enough, then does that not raise doubts over their judgement?
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I blame Carew.
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/gallery/newcastle-united-6-0-aston-villa/newcastle-united-aston-villa-2.jpg)
I thank him *
KM would have been the wrong appointment. Regardless of how his results in charge went, they were never really going to form a decent "sample" from which to judge if he was good enough to do the job.
If we were going to appoint him after three league games, then ideally he'd have shown enough in his previous career to get the job before those three league games.
I don't think he did - being a good coach is one thing, managing a club the size of Aston Villa in modern football is something else - and to appoint him would have been a mistake.
* no, before anyone dives in, I'm not being entirely serious in being glad a Villa player missed a penalty.
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Why didn't Barry take the penalty?
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Why didn't Barry take the penalty?
*stops stopwatch*
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Has that ball landed yet?
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Heskey was sent to look for it.
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Would prefer someone who's been at the club before, like Staunton, rather than go for big nose. If he does get it I'll have to console myself with the fact he will no longer be on Sky.
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I dont think K Mac will stay very long now. I dont think he should have been alowed to apply, cos it was just a token gesture from Randy. Now he is in the position we all know of from work, where we have applied for a job that we think we can do and the bosses have bought in someone from outside. You then think u have to move to get on.
Kev was the board's number one choice for the job, until results went against him. If we'd not been thumped by Newcastle, and even then if we'd got past Rapid, he'd be manager now.
I understand that Dave, but he showed with those two results and the dithering about applying he was not ready for the job. Now, he will have it in his mind that he could do it and will feel disappointed that he did not get it. I just think Randy should have had a quiet word, promised him a bonus for the job he did when MON left and give him his old job/or a coaching job with the first team and save him the hassle of the interview.
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I dont think K Mac will stay very long now. I dont think he should have been alowed to apply, cos it was just a token gesture from Randy. Now he is in the position we all know of from work, where we have applied for a job that we think we can do and the bosses have bought in someone from outside. You then think u have to move to get on.
Kev was the board's number one choice for the job, until results went against him. If we'd not been thumped by Newcastle, and even then if we'd got past Rapid, he'd be manager now.
I understand that Dave, but he showed with those two results and the dithering about applying he was not ready for the job. Now, he will have it in his mind that he could do it and will feel disappointed that he did not get it. I just think Randy should have had a quiet word, promised him a bonus for the job he did when MON left and give him his old job/or a coaching job with the first team and save him the hassle of the interview.
But it wasn't a token gesture. They wanted him to have the job.
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Why not just give it him then if they were so confident of his abilities? I really rate K Mac as a reserve team manager, I just dont think he has the ambition or nastiness in him to become a prem manager.
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I want neither Geppetto or Pinnocchio we've had enough woodentops thank you very much
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I want neither Geppetto or Pinnocchio we've had enough woodentops thank you very much
You just know that is gonna stick now, Gepetto Houllier and his side kick Pinnocchio.
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Ged-wood
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Ged-wood
I was so tempted to delete this post. Just in case
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I am no fan but Ged is the gaffer and should pick his staff.
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Ged-wood
I was so tempted to delete this post. Just in case
But then you thought you'd stop, collaborate and listen?
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I think if Thompson is his assistant there's every chance he'll be using his contacts with Madrid to get some Real boys.
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Houllier should be in place tomorrow, according to Lawro (The blue fairy)
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Ged-wood
I was so tempted to delete this post. Just in case
But then you thought you'd stop, collaborate and listen?
In the vain hope you might be back with a brand new edition?
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Villa will release statement tomorrow and press conference on thurs according to evening mails kendrick.
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Villa will release statement tomorrow and press conference on thurs according to evening mails kendrick.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being Heskey failing to score and 10 being gregnash going to a game), how surprised will we all be if it turns NOT to be Houllier??
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Villa will release statement tomorrow and press conference on thurs according to evening mails kendrick.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being Heskey failing to score and 10 being gregnash going to a game), how surprised will we all be if it turns NOT to be Houllier??
I think I'd be around about 'a Heskey goal following a gregnash assist'.
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Villa will release statement tomorrow and press conference on thurs according to evening mails kendrick.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being Heskey failing to score and 10 being gregnash going to a game), how surprised will we all be if it turns NOT to be Houllier??
Imagine the press conference, then in walks Alan Pardew.
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Villa will release statement tomorrow and press conference on thurs according to evening mails kendrick.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being Heskey failing to score and 10 being gregnash going to a game), how surprised will we all be if it turns NOT to be Houllier??
Imagine the press conference, then in walks Alan Pardew.
I actually feel a bit sick.
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Villa will release statement tomorrow and press conference on thurs according to evening mails kendrick.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being Heskey failing to score and 10 being gregnash going to a game), how surprised will we all be if it turns NOT to be Houllier??
Imagine the press conference, then in walks Alan Pardew.
Cue everyones head exploding on this site, and the system crashing here and on VT. Mass panic and hoards of fans heading down to B6 with pitch forks and torches. I'd get on a plane myself if that happened.
It ain't gonna happen
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Houllier without Thompson will be like Rene without Edith!
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Houllier without Thompson will be like Rene without Edith!
I always thought Rene should have ran off with one of those sexy French waitresses.
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not the little blonde one tho :)