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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Colhint on September 02, 2010, 08:46:53 PM
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So now the window has closed are we better placed.
Well on the downside we have lost our manager and have not replaced him, but maybe there is an upside to that. We have also lost possibly our best player. I cant see an upside to that to be honest. Also 2 of our strikers and the captain are that bit older
On the upside, well sort of, we lost our best player the year before and found a better one. With the manager going it does seem there was some disharmony in the camp which can never be a good thing. We also have a number of players NRC Sidders Davies Young Beye etc who will probably feel they have more of a chance.
The style of football would hopefully improve
As would the use of Subs
The opportunities for Allbrighton, Fonz, Delph and maybe Delph look considerably better
After a considerable number of buys over the last few years maybe the team gets chance to settle
We have got Stephen Ireland
Not many other teams have improved their squads significantly mcfc excepted
The likes of Gabby, Ash, Warnock getting more experience
Had MON not gone I thought we would need a new right back, CM and forward, now I dont think we need a right back and maybe not a midfielder, once Delph returns. I'm also hoping we may change our style a bit to enable The Fonz (who is probably the best young English forward in the country) to play a lot more
The Loss of Milner is big though.
We will probably have a lot more to spend in January
So a bit of a waffle but now I have written it Im feeling a bit more positive
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Right now, probably not. But you cannot really answer this question fairly until we have a proper manager in place. We have a lot of good young kids coming through, but we've lost a top player, and got in a very good player that has yet to settle properly. Ask this question again at Christmas and you'll get a truer indication as to where we are as a club.
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I definitely see this as an opportunity for the club to improve.
12-months ago I thought MON had hit a bit of a ceiling at Villa, however I did not think he deserved the sack or constructive dismissal.
Now he is gone, I'd like to think we could get a decent manager in who would correct some on MON's weak points and complement his good work. Therefore, if the club has got the balls and are being well advised, I actually think we could be stronger. Pre-MON we would not have been able to attract a top manager. I think we could now, as long as we're patient enough.
It's a huge "if" though.
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No.
But then again, if the club pulled off a master stroke managerial appointment, we could improve very quickly.
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we are now in a period of transition, i have even less faith about the season than last year because we have gone from flawed leadership to no leadership, but at least we have seen the back of MON so i feel better about our long term future than i did, if however we appoint Curbishley then we will have taken a big step backwards
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we are now in a period of transition, i have even less faith about the season than last year because we have gone from flawed leadership to no leadership, but at least we have seen the back of MON so i feel better about our long term future than i did, if however we appoint Curbishley then we will have taken a big step backwards
Indeed, into the late 90's by my reckoning.
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No.
But then again, if the club pulled off a master stroke managerial appointment, we could improve very quickly.
Agree.
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we are now in a period of transition, i have even less faith about the season than last year because we have gone from flawed leadership to no leadership, but at least we have seen the back of MON so i feel better about our long term future than i did, if however we appoint Curbishley then we will have taken a big step backwards
Indeed, into the late 90's by my reckoning.
Oh no another FA Cup final! How will we survive?
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we are now in a period of transition, i have even less faith about the season than last year because we have gone from flawed leadership to no leadership, but at least we have seen the back of MON so i feel better about our long term future than i did, if however we appoint Curbishley then we will have taken a big step backwards
Indeed, into the late 90's by my reckoning.
Oh no another FA Cup final! How will we survive?
That was in 2000.
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we are now in a period of transition, i have even less faith about the season than last year because we have gone from flawed leadership to no leadership, but at least we have seen the back of MON so i feel better about our long term future than i did, if however we appoint Curbishley then we will have taken a big step backwards
Indeed, into the late 90's by my reckoning.
Oh no another FA Cup final! How will we survive?
Still won nothing though
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No we are in a worse prosition, because of losing a very good manager, and because of losing Milner, and apart from Ireland bring no one else in. Even taking into account than we got a good deal for Milner, we still would have needed two or three new players even if Milner had stayed.
Way I see it the last manager has left us as a top six club, meaning if we get the right manager to take over we will have a chance of doing something, if not we may have to take a few steps back before going forward. This maybe the biggest week of our season.
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I would say better due to using the squad more not just starting eleven plus Heskey/Sidwell/Luke Young as we rarely use players outside the 14 and lot of young players coming through with promises and more experience. We miss Milner's workrate and energy.
I expect slow progress and it can been speed up with a quality modern manager and good signings especially in attack in the winter.
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Thats a fair point, although I predict than that approach would only get us so far. In all fairness to MON while he did play the same team most weeks, it was our best team, and I do think the best policy is to keep a settled side than make unnesscary changes. To do this, but also blood one or two new players slowly is the way to go.
And by the way I don't buy this arguement than O'Neill didn't fancy youth, afterall he did sign Delph last summer, a very forward thinking buy who could benefit us for years to come, both on the pitch and in the money we could make when we sell him on.
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Its early days but there are positives, let some of the none first 11 get games, let people play in their proper positions, let the younger ones get some match time, experience. Rest people when they are carrying injuries/knackered. Better use of subs and tactics.We can be better but it may take time. We need the right manager and scouting system. (we used to have a good one, Bouma, Larsen, Mellberg, Bosnich, Yorke were good signings) Ok we had some nightmare ones too Balaban Curcic but doesnt everyone.
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Agree with other posters that say it depends on the manager that is appointed. A good manager will find there's a lot of potential to exploit here.
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We were in the process of building one of the nicest houses in the street.
Then some prick up the road decided to build THE biggest house of them all, casting a horrible shadow in the shape of a $ sign over the neighbourhood.
Then, during construction of the next floor, we found some very dodgy carpentry. The product is largely locally-made stuff that just isn't up to the standard of the imported products. A lot of it will have to be replaced. The building manager has downed tools in a huff and fucked of home.
And, now it looks like the sunny weather we'd hoped for has turned a little overcast.
Still, the place will look good once the roof goes on. I'm sure.
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Better when the new manager takes over and brings new idea's and use's the squad to better effect i think everything will be ok.
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Friedel
L. Young Dunne Collins Warnock
Delph Petrov
Albrighton Ireland A. Young
Agbonlahor
Subds:
Guzan
Cuellar
Clark
NRC
Downing
Carew
Delfounseo
I'm happy with that, better than last year i reckon.
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The manager's the key to it all.
Squad wise, I'd say we're slightly better - in so much as I think now we actually have a squad of players in contention to play, rather than Martin's rather rigid 'this is my first X1, stays the same unless anyone is injured', 'these are my subs, they sit on the subs bench' and 'these are my reserves, who play for the reserve team and only the reserve team'.
We've lost one of our best players, but brought in a good replacement - Milner and Ireland pretty much on a par, though I'd say Ireland gives us a little more of what we need; a flash of matchwinning flair. Milner will give you 7/10 every week and the odd 8 - Ireland will give you some 6/10s but also several 9/10s during the season.
Then we've got Albrighton and Clark more involved, plus more opportunities for the likes of Lichaj, Bannan, Delfouneso and possibly Weimann.
Plus, players who seemingly had no future are now involved again. Luke Young and Reo-Coker have particularly risen to the challenge and I'm interested to see Sidwell's reaction given a fresh chance and the opportunity to actually play from time to time, rather than 10-min sub cameos here and there. On the downside, nothing I've seen so far from Davies or Beye indicates they should stay any longer than necessary.
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Manager walks 5 days before kick off, alleged best player sold, no manager several games into season, already out of Europe and 4 weeks or so on still no idea who the manager is or is likely to be.
That alone says no
Add in the paucity of the squad, the insecurity created by the managers exit, no serious guidance, all the innuendo and speculation, the prospects even with the best manager that's unavailable look grim but not yet dire. Other clubs have improved their squads, look to the other side of the City
We certainly have plenty to thank O'Neill for, without doubt.
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I don't understand. If O'Neil was such an arsehole, incompetent, unable to buy decent players and use those he already had properly, tactically inacapable, using players out of position, surrendering in Europe, stubbornly refusing to admit mistakes etc then why aren't we ectstatic that he's left instead of crying that he walked out on us?
The revisionsists should at least be consistent with their arguments.
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wont really know until a manager comes in...
if we get in a manager who can see the very obvious deficiencies within the team, then we might be stronger, even without signings...
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I think our biggest problem is the lack of a consistent goalscorer. Injury aside, at least Carew still looked up for it on most occasions last season. Now he looks anything but. Gabby, once fully fit, will have a scoring run before losing his confidence again - Heskey will provide nothing so we are very reliant on midfield chipping in.
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If you are referring to my comments Chico you have to understand one simple fact. I'm far from unhappy that Mon left as I predicted one day he would.
I am very disapointed in the timing and manner of his exit, partly because of the problems it generated problems even the staunchest of his fans should see.
If that be an inconsistent view or revisionism, so be it, I'm often falsely accused of worse.
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A simple no.
Regardless of how anyone tries to dress it up MON dropped us right in it leaving when he did so fuck him, we have lost the chance to strengthen and we will not get anyone of note in January.
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No