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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Cuellar Boo Ya on August 31, 2010, 04:33:21 PM
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I am to be honest as we now have a weaker squad than last season and no manager at the moment, meanwhile the blues have gone out and signed out a hatfull of top quality star players that we could have easily gone for to improve out squad.
I hate to say it, but I think they could finish above us this year, they'll probably do the double over us as well.
An hour and half for us to at least do something, please, please, please let us do something.
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No
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Get a grip!
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No
We don't need a winger.
End of story.
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I second Yeltzer's eloquent response.
Stop worrying about other teams in the premier league, we have enough things at our own club to concern us.
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Nope, they could sign the entire Barcalona side and they would still be crap. It's the curse you know.
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To be fair to them they've done some decent business. They will stop up and they will most likely muster a midtable finish.
However, it will be a big task for them to overhaul a club are sitting in fourth place in the table despite having no manager and suffering a 6-0 shellacking to a poor Newcastle team. We haven't even got started yet. Get a good manager in and I have every confidence we'll finish above Birmingham.
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I'm struggling with the 'hatfull of top quality star players' portion of that post. Please enlighten me.
No.
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We can't sign anybody because that waste of skin that used to manage us, dropped us in the shit.
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Yes, I'm shitting myself! They'll do the double over us because they've got a player on loan who couldn't get in the Barcelona side.
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I couldn't give a rat's ass whether we finish above them or below them.
I'm happy for them to win the league if we finish 4th!
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Not at all.
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Worried about them? No, but then I don't particularly care about them as I don't live in Brum and don't think their support spreads as far as North Oxfordshire.
Think they have done good business in the transfer market? Yes, they have a decent manager.
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No. Pull yourself together.
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No, cos they're still shit.
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"Top quality star players"?!! Have a rest mate. Lock?
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No not at all. Just makes them even funnier. Not quite spent the £20 million in 3 windows yet have they.
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Yes a hatful of top quality stars, Hleb and two unknowns! Agree with other posters get a grip!!
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It's like a playgroup in here. I was trying to start some sensible discusion and you all start getting all whiney. Many do find it rather worrying we haven't freshened up the squad a bit, whilst the Blues have.
We should have gone for Hleb, because if you don't think he'd get in our side you're an idiot to be honest.
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I don't give a shit about Blues, but the fact they've got Foster and Hleb it bothers me a little as they are players that could do a superb job for us, especially with our threadbare squad.
Yes, O'Neill left us in the shit, but I honestly think the board have done 'an O'Neill' and dithered on getting a replacement. Is this so they don't have to spend any money this summer? - It's all a bit convenient for me.
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And just who was going to sign him? The Board? Give us a break!!!!
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No. The last thing we need is another attacking midfielder.
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Hleb used to be good player, not so sure anymore. It can't really show much about his ambitions if hes agreed to the move.
In fairness, having seen blose on Sunday, i wouldn't be too worried. They let a two goal lead slip against an at best, mediocre side who were down to 10 men. They were also getting well beat by Sunderland, (another at best mediocre side) until they went down to 10 men.
They also haven't got Joe Hart this year. Without him they would probably have been involved in a relegation dogfight last year.
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It's like a playgroup in here. I was trying to start some sensible discusion and you all start getting all whiney. Many do find it rather worrying we haven't freshened up the squad a bit, whilst the Blues have.
We should have gone for Hleb, because if you don't think he'd get in our side you're an idiot to be honest.
You accuse others of being childish, then call them idiots. Can you see the issue there?
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What a stupid, yet predictable thread.
If these players were any good, do you honestly think they'd be going to Blose? Think about it.
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There's already a thread to laugh at SHA about, why have we got this shit cluttering up the site?
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We should have gone for Hleb, because if you don't think he'd get in our side you're an idiot to be honest.
How on earth can we go for him, until we get a new manager?
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It's like a playgroup in here. I was trying to start some sensible discusion and you all start getting all whiney. Many do find it rather worrying we haven't freshened up the squad a bit, whilst the Blues have.
We should have gone for Hleb, because if you don't think he'd get in our side you're an idiot to be honest.
You accuse others of being childish, then call them idiots. Can you see the issue there?
Who did I call an idiot?
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It's like a playgroup in here. I was trying to start some sensible discusion and you all start getting all whiney. Many do find it rather worrying we haven't freshened up the squad a bit, whilst the Blues have.
We should have gone for Hleb, because if you don't think he'd get in our side you're an idiot to be honest.
Who would you drop: Albrighton, Ashley Young or Steven Ireland? He was a good player on his day a few years back but I'd rather have our three talented attacking midfielders to their one. I agree Hleb is a good signing but one swallow does not make a summer.
Aside from him who have they brought in? Matt Derbyshire, an error prone goalkeeper (who replaces their outstanding player of last season) and some players I've not heard of but I'm assured they are middling to average on football manager games.
They finished behind us by some way last season and to achieve the magnificent heights of (I think) 9th based on all out defence and a top class keeper. They have lost the keeper and shipped two goals to both Sunderland and Bolton in their last two outings where last season they would have earned a clean sheet and three points each. Look at who plays for them: Steve Carr, Barry Ferguson, Liam Ridgewell and that little turncoat cast-off Gardner are regulars. To finish above that lot, even complemented by Hleb we don't need to strengthen. In fact we could get away with selling another key player if finishing above Blues is our minimum aim.
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We should have gone for Hleb, because if you don't think he'd get in our side you're an idiot to be honest.
How on earth can we go for him, until we get a new manager?
We should have had a manager.
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We should have gone for Hleb, because if you don't think he'd get in our side you're an idiot to be honest.
How on earth can we go for him, until we get a new manager?
Is the correct answer.
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We should have gone for Hleb, because if you don't think he'd get in our side you're an idiot to be honest.
How on earth can we go for him, until we get a new manager?
We should have had a manager.
How?
Do you think it's that easy to get a quality manager in that quickly?
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CBY. I think you may be right and today may just be a tipping point. The balance of football power seems to be shifting across the city towards Small Heath. With a potential fan base of over 400 billion chinese, all buying counterfeit shirts, the coffers will be overflowing. In no time at all the New Sty will be full to it's 50,000 capacity and the name Small Heath Alliance will be held in reverence around the footballing world. Forget high spending Citeh, we have hatfulls of quality players arriving at the Sty to rival anything the top 4 could muster. It must be so exciting for you pea-brained trolls.
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Hleb would have been a good buy for us if Ireland hadn't come in but there wouldn't have been room for both.
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They finished behind us by some way last season and to achieve the magnificent heights of (I think) 9th based on all out defence and a top class keeper. They have lost the keeper and shipped two goals to both Sunderland and Bolton in their last two outings where last season they would have earned a clean sheet and three points each. Look at who plays for them: Steve Carr, Barry Ferguson, Liam Ridgewell and that little turncoat cast-off Gardner are regulars. To finish above that lot, even complemented by Hleb we don't need to strengthen. In fact we could get away with selling another key player if finishing above Blues is our minimum aim.
Those 4 goals were 2 pens, a freak own goal and a free kick; to be honest I don't think Joe hart would haved saved those either. I think they'll be a lot stronger this year as they now have a bit of pace and presence up front, and some attacking guile in the middle. We've lost our best player and had to all out defend for 75 minutes against a piss poor everton team. We also got tonked 6-0 at Newcastle which is very very worrying.
We needed players.
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Who Blues have and have not bought is not the problem.
The problem is that we have "lost" a window, and the best part of a season by having no substantive movement in or out.
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It's like a playgroup in here. I was trying to start some sensible discusion and you all start getting all whiney. Many do find it rather worrying we haven't freshened up the squad a bit, whilst the Blues have.
We should have gone for Hleb, because if you don't think he'd get in our side you're an idiot to be honest.
You accuse others of being childish, then call them idiots. Can you see the issue there?
Who did I call an idiot?
You said anyone who doesn't think Hleb would get in our side is an idiot. Well i don't necessarily think he would. Hleb is predominantly a wide man. He's not better than Ashley Young (imo) and Albrighton will only improve the more games he plays. I think those two should be the wingers with Ireland playing off Gabby. Hleb could play centre midfield, but i don't think he has the defensive quality needed to balance the attacking players ahead of him.
I also don't think hleb is the same player as at Arsenal.
If all of that makes me an idiot then so be it.
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One name ensures that they won't do as well as last season.
Joe Hart.
He saved them a hell of a lot of points with his heroics
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They finished behind us by some way last season and to achieve the magnificent heights of (I think) 9th based on all out defence and a top class keeper. They have lost the keeper and shipped two goals to both Sunderland and Bolton in their last two outings where last season they would have earned a clean sheet and three points each. Look at who plays for them: Steve Carr, Barry Ferguson, Liam Ridgewell and that little turncoat cast-off Gardner are regulars. To finish above that lot, even complemented by Hleb we don't need to strengthen. In fact we could get away with selling another key player if finishing above Blues is our minimum aim.
Those 4 goals were 2 pens, a freak own goal and a free kick; to be honest I don't think Joe hart would haved saved those either. I think they'll be a lot stronger this year as they now have a bit of pace and presence up front, and some attacking guile in the middle. We've lost our best player and had to all out defend for 75 minutes against a piss poor everton team. We also got tonked 6-0 at Newcastle which is very very worrying.
We needed players.
I think this thread, your comments, particularly about Everton being piss poor (ah?) sum up your present state of mind. Chin up and lay of the drugs.
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Wonder how many times 'the power shift' will be mentioned in tomorrows Mail
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Hleb is an excellent player and we'd all be delighted if he was turning out for us in a week or so's time. So fair play to them for pulling off that deal. It's not going to suddenly catapult them above us though. We're supposedly in crisis and a couple games aside, we are doing ok. Our squad depth and kids coming through will hold us together until January. Milner is a loss, but when a new manager comes in, implements Ireland properly, rotates the squad, our current set up is top 8 for sure. Some proper coaching, tactics and some new faces we'll be challenging in the 4-6 positions. Blues are a good distance from that even with Hleb.
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I wouldn't say I was worried but there's a level of quality now at Blues that previously I thought they wouldn't be able to attract.
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SMA sign an average player (but he played a bit part for Barcalona) and we have thread on it. They are still shit and always will be.
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We still have a lot of good players at this club. We have lost Milner but gained an immense talent in Ireland. If you ask any neutral to pick which squad he wants out of us and them, the vast majority would take ours in a heartbeat.
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I hate to say it, but I think they could finish above us this year, they'll probably do the double over us as well.
We are in the biggest state of turmoil this club has seen since 1986, and we are still above them in the table.
Altogether now "100 years and you've won fuck all..."
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They finished behind us by some way last season and to achieve the magnificent heights of (I think) 9th based on all out defence and a top class keeper. They have lost the keeper and shipped two goals to both Sunderland and Bolton in their last two outings where last season they would have earned a clean sheet and three points each. Look at who plays for them: Steve Carr, Barry Ferguson, Liam Ridgewell and that little turncoat cast-off Gardner are regulars. To finish above that lot, even complemented by Hleb we don't need to strengthen. In fact we could get away with selling another key player if finishing above Blues is our minimum aim.
Those 4 goals were 2 pens, a freak own goal and a free kick; to be honest I don't think Joe hart would haved saved those either. I think they'll be a lot stronger this year as they now have a bit of pace and presence up front, and some attacking guile in the middle. We've lost our best player and had to all out defend for 75 minutes against a piss poor everton team. We also got tonked 6-0 at Newcastle which is very very worrying.
We needed players.
I think this thread, your comments, particularly about Everton being piss poor (ah?) sum up your present state of mind. Chin up and lay of the drugs.
Says the man who was about to explode and lashing out at everyone and everything just over a week ago.
*wink*
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They finished behind us by some way last season and to achieve the magnificent heights of (I think) 9th based on all out defence and a top class keeper. They have lost the keeper and shipped two goals to both Sunderland and Bolton in their last two outings where last season they would have earned a clean sheet and three points each. Look at who plays for them: Steve Carr, Barry Ferguson, Liam Ridgewell and that little turncoat cast-off Gardner are regulars. To finish above that lot, even complemented by Hleb we don't need to strengthen. In fact we could get away with selling another key player if finishing above Blues is our minimum aim.
Those 4 goals were 2 pens, a freak own goal and a free kick; to be honest I don't think Joe hart would haved saved those either. I think they'll be a lot stronger this year as they now have a bit of pace and presence up front, and some attacking guile in the middle. We've lost our best player and had to all out defend for 75 minutes against a piss poor everton team. We also got tonked 6-0 at Newcastle which is very very worrying.
We needed players.
I think this thread, your comments, particularly about Everton being piss poor (ah?) sum up your present state of mind. Chin up and lay of the drugs.
Says the man who was about to explode and lashing out at everyone and everything just over a week ago.
*wink*
Post Newcastle depression.
I'm an incredibly bad loser. I was at Def Con Stoke in the depression scales.
My force quickly balanced out, as you can't keep reality out of your mind for too long.
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We may be managerless, have sold our best player, have bought nobody, be sitting here watching the transfer window slam shut whilst our powers that be are doing other things, we may have recently been tonked 6-0 by a shite championship side, we may have spent almost 90 minutes chasing the ball on Sunday, and we may be about to interview the least impressive list of job applicants since Hitler finished himself off, but it would take much, much more than that for me to be jealous of Small Heath in any way, shape or form.
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We are in the biggest state of turmoil this club has seen since 1986
Eh?
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We are in the biggest state of turmoil this club has seen since 1986
Eh?
I thought it was up there in the hyperbole stakes too.
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Is it just me?
I'm really excited, last season we had 12 players!
This season we have a full squad full of youth and experience!
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We may be managerless, have sold our best player, have bought nobody, be sitting here watching the transfer window slam shut whilst our powers that be are doing other things, we may have recently been tonked 6-0 by a shite championship side, we may have spent almost 90 minutes chasing the ball on Sunday, and we may be about to interview the least impressive list of job applicants since Hitler finished himself off, but it would take much, much more than that for me to be jealous of Small Heath in any way, shape or form.
No goals conceded at home, four points up at home, six points out of nine, same position league wise as we were last season and a new manager about to bring in some stability that is required for the squad to properly focus.
They won’t be laughing when we finish 20 odd points in front of them again and make it 8 in a row. Let them laugh in August.
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We may be managerless, have sold our best player, have bought nobody, be sitting here watching the transfer window slam shut whilst our powers that be are doing other things, we may have recently been tonked 6-0 by a shite championship side, we may have spent almost 90 minutes chasing the ball on Sunday, and we may be about to interview the least impressive list of job applicants since Hitler finished himself off, but it would take much, much more than that for me to be jealous of Small Heath in any way, shape or form.
CBY, please read and inwardly digest and then think about what you've done. You'll be a better person for it.
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Purlease.
Concerned about the progress - potential or proven- of Man City, Liverpool, Everton or Spuds? Yes.
Concerned about the signings SHA have made or their potential in comparison to us. No.
Forget it. Have a glass of warm milk. Sleeeep. You will be fine in the morning.
The Creator has established a natural order in all things. The Creator says - they are crap.
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Look we should be worrying about competing with Everton, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool not that small club in Small Heath.
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I posted this on another ( more meaningful) thread yesterday:
Just had a call from a whinging, petulant Blue nose.
"How come?" he says, "That you have no bloody manager, you've lost 6-0, your forwards can't score, you sold your best player, you have signed no f..... players and you are in CRISIS and.. "
"Yes?" says I
"and, and we think we are having a good start but, but, but you f...ers are STILL above us in the f...... league?!!!!".
quiet smiley annoying smug emoticon thingy
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I really couldn't care who they sign plus he isn't the player we need at the moment. One other thing worth thinking about is that Hleb will be playing every week changing their style to accommodate him might not be the best thing for them.
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Dont forget blues other big signing in the last Window - Craig Gardner.
Stop worrying, I know everything a disaster like we won on Sunday
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No the bloke is a waste of time and will play no more than 10 games for them.
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Craig Gardner's a good player to be honest, but he kept getting moved around under o'neill. A very good squad choice for midfield, not so when you jaff him all over the place.
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Ive read some of the biggest bollocks I have ever read anywhere on this thread.
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It's more the disappointment of the Villa participation in this transfer window that creates the angst.
We have a petulant Irishman to thank for this.
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A lot of people said this thread was rubbish but I think it's great fun!
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"Top quality star players"
Ha!!
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It seems ages since we last had a knuckledragger on the site.
Is this the first time this summer anybody has mentioned the Rags? I'd almost forgotten they exist. Can somebody confirm they've spent the promised £40m or are they still as small time as ever?
What a silly little club.
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Hleb is mentally weak and gets injured far, far too easily. It'll all end in tears.
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Tbh i think Hleb would have been a good signing.
I like the system, 4:2:3:1 system, for me the 3 behind Gabby would be Ashley, Ireland and Albrighton.Now i don't think it is a good idea to play Albrighton for a full season, and Downing flatters to deceive.Hleb could have played in any of the 3 positions, so yes i think he would have been a good signing for us.
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Gents,
It'd be a sad day when we worry about Small Heath anywhere near approaching the Villa. Small is all they are. SMALL club, SMALL minded fans, SMALL Heath. I rest my case.
Up the Villa!
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Blose really are a sad bunch of tossers.
Just twigged that the author of this thread is a sad Bluenose.
Blues never own their best player - they borrow them.
They are a club of loanees.
Small time Small Heath.
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It seems ages since we last had a knuckledragger on the site.
Is this the first time this summer anybody has mentioned the Rags? I'd almost forgotten they exist. Can somebody confirm they've spent the promised £40m or are they still as small time as ever?
What a silly little club.
They probably have spent £40m if you include last summer and this one, I don't think they've sold anyone either.
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Tbh i think Hleb would have been a good signing.
I like the system, 4:2:3:1 system, for me the 3 behind Gabby would be Ashley, Ireland and Albrighton.Now i don't think it is a good idea to play Albrighton for a full season, and Downing flatters to deceive.Hleb could have played in any of the 3 positions, so yes i think he would have been a good signing for us.
Don't fall for it mate. You'll be quoted and famous on the Dark Side.
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It seems ages since we last had a knuckledragger on the site.
Is this the first time this summer anybody has mentioned the Rags? I'd almost forgotten they exist. Can somebody confirm they've spent the promised £40m or are they still as small time as ever?
What a silly little club.
They probably have spent £40m if you include last summer and this one, I don't think they've sold anyone either.
Have they raffled anybody?
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It's more the disappointment of the Villa participation in this transfer window that creates the angst.
We have a petulant Irishman to thank for this.
.....and the previous 8 windows.
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There's already a thread to laugh at SHA about, why have we got this shit cluttering up the site?