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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on August 23, 2010, 08:24:29 AM
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2-0 home win.
Ireland 23
Young, A. 55
First thread started on our new board and I have no idea how to add a poll.
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Seems I can only add it after I've made the initial post?
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0-1.
Someone for them, don't know who.
MacDonalds last game for us.
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A cathartic win. 2-1
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2-2 - Villa out
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It means nothing to me ! Oh Vienna !
Aston Villa have 2 Rapid have zero.
Now shaddup ya face !
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Villa win... has to be....
Doesnt it...
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1-0 to the villa with a.young scoring.
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Us 3 - 1 Rapid Bucharest
Us: Carew (Yes, HIM!), Dunne & Young
Them: Falcodinho
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I wonder whether we need the distraction of this competition.
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Whatever the merits of this competition another game can't come around quickly enough now.
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I fear what the crowd might be even though season ticket holders get this one free.
I just hope he plays his first team and Cuellar and Gabby are fit. A nervy 2-1.
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Villa 6 Rapid 0
That'll learn 'em
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I'd start the team who started yesterday personally, rather than let them sit in the stand having arest,
3-1 to us.
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Confidence time. We're going to beat them 7--1. Don't know how you get minus scores, but that's how bad we're going to beat them. UTV!
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Well it doesn't mean a great deal to me either at this stage ;)
I say fair play to the team that put on a solid display last Thursday but in such a tight game it would be too much of a risk to play that side again. With a few bigger names back I will go for a nervey 1-0 win Carew 48 Mins.
My team would be;
Guzan
Clark
Dunne
Warnock
L. Young
Ireland
Petrov
A. Young
Albrighton
Carew
Delfonso
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We're going to bounce back and thrash them 5-1. You heard it here first.
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I really hope ireland and petrov never grace the same pitch at the same time ever again
It's one or the other for me
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Is Ireland eligible to play?
I'm expecting us to bounce back in this one and win 2-0.
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Win on pens. 1-1 on the night.
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3-0 to villa.
Ireland (23,47)
Young, A (56)
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I am sure Ireland can play as there was talk of rushing him out for the first leg [which was silly really], and having not been involved for City this season I don't see how there could be a problem there. As for him and Petov, you need to give them more than a game to judge.
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I thought the registration deadline that we missed for Ireland was for the whole tie and not just the first leg?
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We will probably win but my interest in the fixture has wained an awful since the opening day of teh season.
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0-0.
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Rapid were very poor in the first game. If we play two wide players not three and if we play the Fonz or Gabby rather than JC or EH, then we should waltz into the group stage.
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The referee is Eric Braamhaar (Holland)
He is on the UEFA Premier List, having been relegated from the Elite category last year. Mind you, I'll be very surprised if he's worse than last week's clown.
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3 - 1 Villa win
Big guns will be back from injury/resting, and when 3-0 up, the youth will then make another appearance.
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I don't actually care either way, that's how much I hate football and the Villa at this moment.
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I don't actually care either way, that's how much I hate football and the Villa at this moment.
Yes, that's the spirit. You know you don't mean it really.
By the way, if we get through to the group stage, our first game is on Sept 16th, which is three days after Stoke Away and 2 days before Bolton at home. Not a very well planned schedule is it?
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I don't actually care either way, that's how much I hate football and the Villa at this moment.
Yes, that's the spirit. You know you don't mean it really.
By the way, if we get through to the group stage, our first game is on Sept 16th, which is three days after Stoke Away and 2 days before Bolton at home. Not a very well planned schedule is it?
Apart from the Bolton game will be moved to the sunday (which also happens to be the day the Pope visits, possibly over-stretching the police?), so that we have 3 games either side. Though the Stoke game shouldn't be on the Monday night if we're playing on the Thursday.
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I don't actually care either way, that's how much I hate football and the Villa at this moment.
Yes, that's the spirit. You know you don't mean it really.
By the way, if we get through to the group stage, our first game is on Sept 16th, which is three days after Stoke Away and 2 days before Bolton at home. Not a very well planned schedule is it?
Apart from the Bolton game will be moved to the sunday (which also happens to be the day the Pope visits, possibly over-stretching the police?), so that we have 3 games either side. Though the Stoke game shouldn't be on the Monday night if we're playing on the Thursday.
The Bolton game would be the obvious move you would have thought, but they're still advertising it as Saturday 16th on the website, which is fair enough, but surely it might be wise to warn people that it could get moved in case people want tickets, especially the away fans (if they bring any that is).
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Any news on the injury front? Would be good to see Collins, Cuellar and Gabby get a run out.
I'd quite like to see Fonz start, but TM seems to have something mildly against him.
Need to have one eye on the Everton game, where we'll need NRC, Petrov and Ireland, so at least one of those needs to be rested, probably Petrov.
We should win, but a defensive performance anything like the last two games and we're in trouble.
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I've heard that Collins, Cuellar and Gabby had a 45 minute run out today at Bodymoor Heath.
Collins and Cuellar looked good but Gabby was knackered.
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Any news on the injury front? Would be good to see Collins, Cuellar and Gabby get a run out.
I'd quite like to see Fonz start, but TM seems to have something mildly against him.
Need to have one eye on the Everton game, where we'll need NRC, Petrov and Ireland, so at least one of those needs to be rested, probably Petrov.
We should win, but a defensive performance anything like the last two games and we're in trouble.
Gabby, Collins and Carlos all played in a behind doors freindly today apparantley and came through it.
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Cheers. My team then:
Guzan - Beye, Collins, Cuellar, Warnock - Ireland, NRC, Bannan - Young- Fonz, Gabby.
I actually fancy us to win 4-0. More worried about the Everton game.
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By the way, if we get through to the group stage, our first game is on Sept 16th, which is three days after Stoke Away and 2 days before Bolton at home. Not a very well planned schedule is it?
Welcome to the Europa League! UEFA have made such a balls-up of European football in the last 15 years.
Sigh.
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I expect the correct response. Villa win. Simple.
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I don’t know about a win. They treat it like an FA Cup quarter final and their main tactic is lump endless high balls into our box, which we seem unable to cope with. The horrendous defending on Sunday doesn’t calm the nevers either. I wouldn't be shocked if they did us again.
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Cuellar and or Collins will be back so we shouldn't have to close our eyes every time a ball comes into the box.
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Collins with Dunne is our most effective partnership and we will need it thursday ..........
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We're going to bounce back and thrash them 5-1. You heard it here first.
My thoughts, too. Our up and down season continues.
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It means nothing to me ! Oh Vienna !
Aston Villa have 2 Rapid have zero.
Now shaddup ya face !
Whats the matter you
Have a no respect.
Villa to bounce back Thurs and Sunday, and to win 3/4-0
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I dreamt about this game last night and was only mildly disappointed when it ended 2-2.
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It means nothing to me ! Oh Vienna !
Aston Villa have 2 Rapid have zero.
Now shaddup ya face !
Whats the matter you
Have a no respect.
Villa to bounce back Thurs and Sunday, and to win 3/4-0
The league never lies and neither do the pop charts. Joe Dolce was officially better than Ultravox !
Hope the play Ultravoxs Vienna over the tannoy at the end of the game when we beat them.
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Play the same team, with the exception of bringing in Gabby for Carew, the pace of Gabby and Ash up front should worry any team. 3-1 Villa for me, Dunne, Ash n Ireland.
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Do I
a) Go to B6 on Thursday Night?
b) Play myslef on Thursday Night and pretend I'm still 18 and good and Sky + Match?
c) Watch ITV4 with one finger on the standby button?
d) None of the above as Football is Wank?
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Noses at home on the same night?
I think I'll stay at home.
3 - 0 to Villa.
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The lads owe us all a result - Villa 2-0
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I am a season ticket holder and not bought a ticket for this, was called by the ticket office today asking if I wanted a ticket. I said no thanks, Nicola Keys asked why so I told her, sons at a festival, its on TV and still not over the weekend result. With recent goings on in the game I think my love affair with it is waining especially for this poor competition.
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2-0 win.
I expect a win but if we get put out I'll not be that disappointed.
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2-2 out on away goals
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Bit of positivity. Nige has to play, Albrighton the man to be replaced as he's started every game so far, and could be a useful option from the bench. Ash and Downing on the wings, Ireland in behind the front man (being Carew if Gabby isn't fit to start). And either Collins/Cuellar to replace Clark. 4-1 Villa.
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0-1.
Someone for them, don't know who.
MacDonalds last game for us.
I don't think I've ever seen an optimistic or positive comment regarding Villa from you. I may well be wrong though.
Try thinking positively, life can be so much better!
A comfortable win for the Villa.
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I've gone with a 2-1 home win ..................provided we don't concede early I believe
the confidence we showed against West Ham will return and the fans will relax and enjoy
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Would give Carew an almighty kick up the **** as he goes onto the pitch and
similar for Downing - Gabby's only got 45mins under his belt from a behind closed doors
match this week but should be on bench
Albrighton & Clark did nothing wrong in my eyes and tried harder than more experienced
players around them - let them have a night off ready for the weekend match with Everton-
NRC must start with Petrov and Ireland playing in support of Carew -
Elimination from this competition is not an option, especially if KMac decides against
taking the job and we start looking elsewhere-
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I don't blame Albrighton or Clark, but they were two of our weakest players on the day.
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i would play guzan , lujach at RB, luke young at LB, then petrov, reo and ireland in MF, with bannan and asnley young in support of heskey. then depending how mach going would bring on gabby
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i would play guzan , lujach at RB, luke young at LB, then petrov, reo and ireland in MF, with bannan and asnley young in support of heskey. then depending how mach going would bring on gabby
Why would you play Heskey ? WHY ?
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the resaon why i would play heskey is we need someone to hold the play up an allow those flair players waiting on his knock downs to do score the goals. would have gone with carew, but last 2 games he has played for us has been terrible.
westham game misses a few clear shots/ headers on goal. newcastle game he skied the penalty and after that he apperared if he did not want to be there
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the resaon why i would play heskey is we need someone to hold the play up an allow those flair players waiting on his knock downs to do score the goals. would have gone with carew, but last 2 games he has played for us has been terrible.
westham game misses a few clear shots/ headers on goal. newcastle game he skied the penalty and after that he apperared if he did not want to be there
I fully agree, Heskey holds the ball up to bring other players into the game. Also, on the evidence of what I have seen so far this season Heskey easily gets the nod over Carew at this time.
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4-1 them to take the lead
Gabby x3 Petrov
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No Dunne or Luke Young in the squad, both injured and Downing and Warnock rested. Gabby, Carlos and Collins all back however. Think a strong team will be played tomorrow night. I'll say 2-1 as I still think they will score.
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3 0 to villa, cant see em scoring this time and think were gunna have to come out and show newcastle was a one off, im backing young twice and downing to chip in
UTV
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2-0 villa. Gabby and Young to score
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can ireland play in this game , or were we too late for him to be registered to play in this round
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Looks like Ireland is inellgble. I'm going to guess at
Guzan - Beye, Collins, Cuellar, Lichaj - Young, NRC, Petrov, Bannan - Heskey, Gabby
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Villa win 2-0
Ash and Gabby
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Downing and Warnock rested...dropped I'd hope after our left hand-side was torn a new one on Sunday by, er, Wayne Routledge and some dude called Perch.
Seriously, are we taking it seriously or not? I'd play the two and if they under-perform drop them for the Everton match which is seemingly a bigger game for the club.
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trouble is who can cover for warnock thats proven? maybe just a few home truths to make them realise the need to buck up. hope he rests a few names to be honest, last year was a fluke, yes there good but our second team is better in my view. keep the faith UTV
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I don't think we should be resting players now too much. It's only a couple of games into the season. I can't see this as I'm at a gig, but I'll be nervously checking my phone.
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Downing and Warnock rested...dropped I'd hope after our left hand-side was torn a new one on Sunday by, er, Wayne Routledge and some dude called Perch.
Problem is if we take that approach we'd also have to drop the right side, middle, back and front too.
I'm expecting to see a good reaction and as long as Kevin gets the team selection right then I'm confident that we'll go through.
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Why on earth have they allowed the Noses to have a home game on the same night? Reckon there'll end up being any trouble?
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Why on earth have they allowed the Noses to have a home game on the same night? Reckon there'll end up being any trouble?
Not unless you go looking for it.
Edit: I meant that as a generic "you"
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Stewards at New Street will have to be on guard as there is a long-running feud between Rochdale and Rapid involving Lisa Stansfield and her non-appearance at Vienna's end of season do in 1993 when she was booked as the star turn and 39 tickets were bought on the assumption she'd be present to croon about how she'd been around the world but still couldn't find her evasive baby.
Seems a tad unfair as though Lisa attended school in Rochdale, she was actually born and bred a couple of miles up the road in Heywood.
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the resaon why i would play heskey is we need someone to hold the play up an allow those flair players waiting on his knock downs to do score the goals. would have gone with carew, but last 2 games he has played for us has been terrible.
westham game misses a few clear shots/ headers on goal. newcastle game he skied the penalty and after that he apperared if he did not want to be there
I fully agree, Heskey holds the ball up to bring other players into the game. Also, on the evidence of what I have seen so far this season Heskey easily gets the nod over Carew at this time.
What a damning statement on the state of our forward line.
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I think we will struggle to get 20K for this match - even with cheap offers on seats
I have not met anyone yet who is going :(
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I think we need a strong side out tonight to try and boost confidence, we can bring the young lads on if we are winning easily. Id go with
Friedel, Beye, Collins, Dunne, L Young, A Young, Petrov, Reo Coker, Bannan, Carew, Delfouneso.
Gabby to come on. He is crucial to us and we cant have him picking up an injury if he isnt fully fit.
I'm not overly bothered which of Collins or Cuellar partners Dunne. Whichever one is fitter I guess. Could be a big chance for the likes of Beye. I'd give Carew another chance up front. it is the kind of game where we are bound to create a few chances and I think he will be in a mood to put last weekend's display right.
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Which stadium will be the quieter? Blues with say less than 10,000, or us with say less than 20,000? Football in the second city is hardly thriving at the mo is it!!!
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Stewards at New Street will have to be on guard as there is a long-running feud between Rochdale and Rapid involving Lisa Stansfield and her non-appearance at Vienna's end of season do in 1993 when she was booked as the star turn and 39 tickets were bought on the assumption she'd be present to croon about how she'd been around the world but still couldn't find her evasive baby.
Seems a tad unfair as though Lisa attended school in Rochdale, she was actually born and bred a couple of miles up the road in Heywood.
Love it
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We'll probably sneak a narrow win but the question is, at what cost? The match on Sunday is far more important in the scheme of things
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We'll probably sneak a narrow win but the question is, at what cost? The match on Sunday is far more important in the scheme of things
I disagree! I think we'll find it very difficult to finish in a European spot at the end of this season unless something incredible happens within the next six days, but I doubt we'll be struggling to stay up. So we should really go for all the cups, domestic and European. Just imagine chucking this UEFA league thing away, and finishing mid-table as well- not exactly a morale booster!
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I think we need a strong side out tonight to try and boost confidence, we can bring the young lads on if we are winning easily.
I thought that KMac had already said that he's more likely to play more of the kids rather than less of them
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Has to play the strongest team available - simple
We are not Man U / Chelsea / Shitty
Get the game won - we have a season to sort out the league - one balls up tonight and the season is as good as over
And another thing - this resting players because of tiredness after playing 3 games in 9 days - what a fucking shame
Not one of the broke sweat on Sunday so hardly taxing for them - the top tennis players play 3/4/5 hour games in ridiculous heat and then after 24/36hrs rest do it again
These fucking puff footballers are doing my head in
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I think we will struggle to get 20K for this match - even with cheap offers on seats
I have not met anyone yet who is going :(
well every season ticket holder who is in cup scheme is going because our ticket was free :-)
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Loads of Austrians decked in green mincing about the City Centre with cans and bottles of wine in hand. They should make quite a sight tonight!
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Is the game on Sky? If so i can watch in the bar....
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I think we will struggle to get 20K for this match - even with cheap offers on seats
I have not met anyone yet who is going :(
I'm going.
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I think we will struggle to get 20K for this match - even with cheap offers on seats
I have not met anyone yet who is going :(
well every season ticket holder who is in cup scheme is going because our ticket was free :-)
Not sure about that. If you have a free ticket then its a bit easier to decide not to bother, given that its pissing down, cold and live on telly.
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I think we need a strong side out tonight to try and boost confidence, we can bring the young lads on if we are winning easily.
I thought that KMac had already said that he's more likely to play more of the kids rather than less of them
He said that he's thought about playing more kids, but he's also thought about playing more experience.
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Has to play the strongest team available - simple
We are not Man U / Chelsea / Shitty
Get the game won - we have a season to sort out the league - one balls up tonight and the season is as good as over
And another thing - this resting players because of tiredness after playing 3 games in 9 days - what a fucking shame
Not one of the broke sweat on Sunday so hardly taxing for them - the top tennis players play 3/4/5 hour games in ridiculous heat and then after 24/36hrs rest do it again
These fucking puff footballers are doing my head in
Agreed.
The only one who should be knackered and should have a rest is Friedel.
He must be fucking wrecked after all the bending over he had to do on Sunday, picking the ball out of the back of his net !!!
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We'll probably sneak a narrow win but the question is, at what cost? The match on Sunday is far more important in the scheme of things
Bollocks - we could win the Europa league, we will never win the league nor, for this season especially, finish top 4. Netiher will we go down.
So, why is Sunday more important?
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These fucking puff footballers are doing my head in
You enjoyed the homosexuals in football thread then.
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What time is kick off please anyone?
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What time is kick off please anyone?
7.45.
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Cheers Chris, much appreciated. Official site was down and was having trouble finding the KO time. That means it clashes with 'Mistresses' which will please my wife and daughters no end. What a shame...
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And another thing - this resting players because of tiredness after playing 3 games in 9 days - what a fucking shame
I know - it's laughable, isn't it?
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I think we will struggle to get 20K for this match - even with cheap offers on seats
I have not met anyone yet who is going :(
I've been offered 2 free tickets .. and I still can't be arsed. I'm decorating. That's what it's come to.
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sitting here waiting for the cricket to start back up just maybe we can draw the series 2-2.but i cant stop thinking of the game tonight .oh please god let us win please
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Worth drinking in the Holte Pub before or should I just find somewhere in town?
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I am not going tonight. I will be reading some case files instead.
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It's live on Pravda for avtv subscribers outside of the UK and Ireland. Hmm.
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I'm going to have to wear my beanie hat tonight. Its bloody November outside.
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What's happened that's so dreadful to stop people from going? A bit of rain? A defeat at the weekend? There'll be more at Blues - Rochdale at this rate.
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Infostrada have us down as a 75% to go through tonight. Nothing can go wrong now.
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the resaon why i would play heskey is we need someone to hold the play up an allow those flair players waiting on his knock downs to do score the goals. would have gone with carew, but last 2 games he has played for us has been terrible.
westham game misses a few clear shots/ headers on goal. newcastle game he skied the penalty and after that he apperared if he did not want to be there
Agreed
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Guzan; Cuellar, Collins, Davies, Beye; Reo-Coker, Ireland, Petrov, A Young; Agbonlahor, Heskey. Subs: Delfouneso, Clark, Lichaj, Bannan, Albrighton, Hogg, Friedel.
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I like that line up.
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Er, who's left back?
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I like that line up.
I don't. No width in midfield, and no left back. And Heskey. Still should have enough to go through.....
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Can't go tonight 'cos of revision.
I like that line up.
I don't. No width in midfield, and no left back. And Heskey. Still should have enough to go through.....
Only thing I don't like is Cuellar right back. You've got the two pivots for Ireland to play a free role and Ash and Beye down the left providing the width. Gabby coming in from the right, looks OK to me...
Can't go tonight 'cos of revision.
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liverpoor 1 down
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Oh good, I thought Ireland wouldn't of been able to play because he wasn't signed in time. It's a shame Macdonald is going down the same route as MON playing a central-defender at right-back... unless Luke Young is being rested or is injured I am baffled.
Ah well, decent lineup... come on you Villa boys. A nice comfortable 2-0 win will have all the panickers being, er... less panicky lol.
p.s. just seen Dave Woodhall again on TV lol.
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Yeah my thought exactly..... MON route of CB playing Full back... just play Young or Lee-high
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I like that line up.
Habib Beye
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Guzan; Cuellar, Collins, Davies, Beye; Reo-Coker, Ireland, Petrov, A Young; Agbonlahor, Heskey. Subs: Delfouneso, Clark, Lichaj, Bannan, Albrighton, Hogg, Friedel.
Much more experienced and solid looking than sundays side.
But if things aren't going to plan with 20 minutes to go can't see much on the bench to mix things up.
What's up with Carew? Injured? Out of form? Or pissed Kev Mac off as much as the rest of us last week?
Come on lads, a good win tonight will make things look a little brighter.