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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: sali,salifou on August 22, 2010, 12:43:37 PM
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As there wasn't one started.
Ireland in for Jimmy is the only change from last weekend
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2-0 Villa, Albrighton & Heskey.
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Friedel; L Young, Dunne, Clark, Warnock; Albrighton, Ireland, Petrov, Downing; A Young, Carew. Subs: Guzan, Delfouneso, Reo-Coker, Bannan, Beye, Lichaj, Heskey.
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ESPN Newcastle wankfest has started. Sickening stuff, inbred geordies a plenty.
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I am fairly surprised Ireland is starting. I think NRC did enough midweek to earn a start.
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I'd take a draw. Despite the fact that they're newly promoted we rarely seem to do well here.....
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Stephen Ireland is our new number 9?
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Sir Brian is a pundit on ESPN. Is he managing anyone at the moment?
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Ireland starts. Excellent.
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Stephen Ireland is our new number 9?
fact or guess?
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Stephen Ireland is our new number 9?
fact or guess?
Fact.
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Stephen Ireland is our new number 9?
fact or guess?
Fact, weirdly
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According to BBC he has the 9 shirt.
I know squad numbers don't mean a lot nowadays, but I'd have preferred him to get number 8 instead.
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Stephen Ireland is our new number 9?
fact or guess?
Fact.
how odd, could he have been given 8 as JM played in the 8 shirt this season I wonder; it might be a weird PL rule.
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Go on then, I'll ask the question...
Anyone got a link for a stream of the match?
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Go on then, I'll ask the question...
Anyone got a link for a stream of the match?
Oh go on then, because its you....
http://www.livevss.tv/channel1.html
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Afternoon gents.
I'd have preferred to have seen NRC starting and Ireland replacing him at half time. Neither have had many games in the last 12 months and I'm expecting the Newcastle midfield to start kicking lumps out of us. It seems Kevin Mac would prefer to rip them a new one. I just hope the ref doesn't play to the crowd and leave his balls in the dressing room.
Come on lads, lets stuff them. It's going to be a tough one but we're more than capable of beating them.
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it's on ESPN so there will be lots of streams about I would imagine. I am still using Villa Streams; the new flash site has simplified matters.
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Come on the Villa, nice easy win please!
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Really looking forward to this. Very attack-minded line up and it'll be interesting to see how we accommodate Ireland and what effect he has on the way we play.
Very important not to concede an early goal though. Having a quick glance at a few Newcastle forums, a lot of their fans hate us for the stuff that went on when we relegated them. Not all their fans feel that way - some reckon had the roles been reversed they'd have done the same thing - but a lot of them do. So if they go in front I expect the crowd will really get going and then we might find it tough.
But our attack vs their defence looks very one sided on paper.
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I never get tired of watching this:
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Exciting line-up.
Would be a good game to get 3 points from.
Daft bird on ESPN "If Villa win today, they'll make history as they've never won their first 2 games of the season. Well they have but not for 11 years"
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I like the look of that team. We should be good enough to win this.
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Happy birthday Stephen Ireland.
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Exciting line-up.
Would be a good game to get 3 points from.
Daft bird on ESPN "If Villa win today, they'll make history as they've never won their first 2 games of the season. Well they have but not for 11 years"
To be fair, she's completely hopeless.
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Interesting that Little and Keegan are pundits...
Didn't Keegan throw a strop at Little playing in his position for England?
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This one is working quite nicely for me.
http://www.tvoo.eu/ch2.html (http://www.tvoo.eu/ch2.html)
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Come on Villa, performance and win today please.
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Their team really isn't Premier League quality is it? We've got to be winning games likes this.
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Really looking forward to seeing Ireland play. It'll be a while I think until we see the best of him, but him and Ashley Young in a free role must be a nightmare for defenders.
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Stephen Ireland is our new number 9?
fact or guess?
Fact.
how odd, could he have been given 8 as JM played in the 8 shirt this season I wonder; it might be a weird PL rule.
I think he can.
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Right then, COME ON YOU VILLA BOYS
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Their side is rubbish, we should be winning this.
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Villa fans in good voice.
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Villa fans in good voice.
Was just about to type that. Even though the commentator said that the St James' Park choir are in full voice.
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I do wonder if our midfield is going to be a bit empty with all these attacking players.
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How to commentate on a newcastle game a)Everyone's second favourite club b)Great to have them back c)Great/loud fans and support. And repeat
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Turned the commentary off within 30 seconds. Already talk of the most passionate fans, and those famous black and white stripes. Fuck off.
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just a bit concerned about a 2 man central midfield with petrov and ireland - just looks a little lightweight
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We're passing it around very nicely indeed.
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Dominating the midfield, no idea what Carew was thinking with that pass though.
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Dunne and Clark are looking solid again.
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PENALTY!
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Penalty
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Pen!
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Definite Pen
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SHIT
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Fuck.
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fucking awful.
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Twat!
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Worst. Pen. Ever.
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FFS JC that was shit
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Possibly the worst penalty miss I've ever seen. Wasteful to say the least
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Penalty! Who?
Oh, carew. O
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Who should be our pen taker then
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FFS.
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That's shit. Really really shit.
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Fuck me. I think the ball just landed in my back yard!
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Anyone got a stream? Mine just went down
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Why didn't Barry take it?
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Ah well. Come on Carew, chin up.
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Pathetic penalty.
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Still a great start from the Villa.
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up unitl ther obvious it's been a good start. We've got to forget about it now & get on with it
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And that's.....20,000 posts up!
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WTF was that? I really hope we don't end up regreting that miss. Carew looks well off the pace.
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I hate it when the match thread gets clogged up with stream requests, but has anyone got a decent stream for this?
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I'm not going to defend that penalty but for ESPNs commentators to say the worst ever?? I'm sure it actually it clipped the bar.........
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Jesus. Christ.
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Fuck, just fucking invite him to shoot then.
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fuck
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Fuck.
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shocking penalty, he should be fined
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To let that ****** score against us as well..... Honeymoon period over?
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Oh fucking hell
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oh FFS had to be that wanker too. Brad should have got that.
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After missing a good 3 or 4 great chances against West Ham, Carew is looking very shit indeed so far this season. Gabby can't come back quickly enough.
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Fuck Off.
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thanks john, tosser barton has scored
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FOR FUCK SAKE.
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Struck it well but Brad's got to be saving that.
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Fucking embarrassing to be behind to this shower.
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wish we had Gabby playing today - he would be having a field day how their defence is set up.
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Very poor defending and goalkeeping.
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Early set back. They're still there for the taking though, fear not.
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We know this season is going to be tough, lets not get over excited.
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Early set back. They're still there for the taking though, fear not.
I bloody hope so, Risso.
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How can we be losing to a side playing Routledge
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We've lost our confidence here, need to step it up.
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There defence looks very dodgy. If we had a decent forward line I'd be a little more confident. Who's next for a goal. Routledge?
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Joey Barton is a dick with a porno tache
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Harper looks suspect. Need to get some shots at him
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Oh Stewart, WTF was that
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We've lost our confidence here, need to step it up.
yep, need to see more from Downing & Albrighton
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Carew is a bit sluggish here.
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Hopefully that yellow card will slow Barton down. He's having a good game so far.
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I can't see where we're getting a goal from. Carew is still on holiday.
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Defence needs to stop backing off their players when they run at us.
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
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Why did the Ref blow the whistle then?
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wtf??
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Piss poor refereeing.....
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Not fuckin' offside now, is he.
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Referee that is a disgraceful desicison
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Carew is a bit sluggish here.
To say the least. I'm really disappointed in him to be honest, he is just so frustrating to watch at times.
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I can't see where we're getting a goal from. Carew is still on holiday.
Thats Carew I'm afraid. So hit and miss it's scary.
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Disgrace.
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What the fuck?
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He was a yard, two yards on side, ffs.
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Actually, given how high up the pitch Newcastle are playing, I'd be inclined to put Delfouneso up front.
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wtf that looked a goal
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He's not given offside, the flag stayed down.
Therefore, it must be handball or something. He's lost the Villa players now.
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Referee that is a disgraceful desicison
Absolute joke!
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hope they have a word with the ref at half time. no way he should have stopped it
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How the ref saw that handball is nothing short if incredible, the linesman didn't.
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Albrighton is not in game at all here.
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Handball. Bit harsh.
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My stream has gone down........anybody got a link?
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he'd started his run & it hit him. Harsh
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That is an absolutely astonishing decision, first - was it intentional?
Second - how the fuck did he see it from where he was?!
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My stream has gone down........anybody got a link?
http://www.livevss.tv/channel1.html
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This is a bad watch hungover......
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Warnock needs to up his game.
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2-0....Oh dear.
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Good night, ffs!
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shocking.
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Albrighton is not in game at all here.
He's swapped wings with Downing, and I don't think he likes being out on the Left.
Fuck Fuck Fuck
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this is an absolute joke
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Game over.
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shit. no way we deserve to be 2 down
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Shit. 2-0 down to this shower
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Our full backs have been fucking atrocious, they are getting murdered.
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Dismal stuff.
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fucking shambles
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For fucks sake. Shambolic defending.
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FFS, same old same old Villa.
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Football is a stupid fucking game
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horse bollocks.
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This is a piss take.
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Dear oh dear. This is going to end in tears.
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shit. no way we deserve to be 2 down
Missed pen, no bite up front. Can't live with basic operlapping runs. Yes we do.
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Shite defending - ball-watching from the midfield. They need NRC on and sharpish.
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fuck. That only needed a touch & it was in
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Right we need Reo-Coker on, they are just running through our midfield.
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We're gonna lose this games again this season because our forward line is so appallingly weak.
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Calm down. We're still in this, although we can't afford another one.
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This could be embarrassing.
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what a load of crap.
How we are losing I don't know. They are shit at the back, we just appear to be worse
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We need a terrier in midfield. Petrov and Ireland isn't the answer.
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Damn right. They are in harder for everything. Not a game for downing.
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Fucking hell, clowns in defence. This is fucking atrocious.
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How...
this looks like one of those games that could be played for 5 hours without us getting a goal.
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Umm. You may panic now.
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Embarrassing....
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Fuck. Right. Fucking. Off.
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This is a joke. Pathetic defending.
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Fucking ****** fuck bollocks
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nothing to say
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Oh fucking dear.
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I would say that we need a permanent managerial appointment ASAP.
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What the fuck are we doing!? Unbelievable.
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I imagined this game going differently..
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FFS, We havent got a clue, All the wankers are getting a goal
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Fuck this shit. See you next week.
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I think I might cry.
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Embarrassing. Absolutely terrible defending, a fuck up by Dunne, and that's it all over.
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shit. no way we deserve to be 2 down
Missed pen, no bite up front. Can't live with basic operlapping runs. Yes we do.
o.k. I can't be positive anymore. Defence all over the place. Half time can't come soon enough
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Bizarre. 3-0 down and we weren't actually playing that badly.
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Where the fuck is our defense
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MON out
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Villa can fuck of and suck my fucking cock. Pathetic embarrassment of a team. Ireland must be glad he came over.
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I had a feeling that Clark was getting hyped up beyond belief, looks totally out of his depth.
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I am fucking raging now
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Can someone call Citeh and ask for James back please.
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I don't think we'll see Mr McDonald as manager after this game. 5,6?
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This is just shite. Midfield not in the game since the penalty miss
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Mr Lerner.......where are you
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3-0
I cant believe this ,we should have scored 3
they HAVE scored 3 :o
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Project over.
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Cannot believe we are 3-0 down to this shower of shit. What is the final score going to be with the defending thus far we are in for a pounding. Need to show some character.
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Should've been four.
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Getting torn a new one here.
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This defending is criminal and Petrov is not doing his job
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Another 6-0 scoreline this weekend?
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Me too. Can't believe this. Defence looks all over the place we don't seem to be plain through the middle. Just Quick long balls straight up to carew who looks had asleep.
Not involving Ireland or albrighton enough.
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Lucky to get away with that
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3 down to a shit team- come on randy we need a manager and some stability -NOW!
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I knew we'd get stuffed here it's gonna be a long season.
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Petrov is not a defensive midfielder
get NRC on now!
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We need half time here, this is not good.
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Could do with Cuellar at right back.
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I turned off at 2-0. Fucking pissed off, going out for a walk to calm down.
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Albrighton having a 'mare against two decent full-backs, Luke Young looks terrible to me, Carew simply doesn't look remotely interested and Ireland is not really able to play in a central two.
This is very poor, and against a really shit team, too.
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We need goals and Carew and YOung don't have the right attitude today
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Downing off for NRC and Carew off for the Fonz please
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Could do with Cuellar at right back.
Good god no.
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Don't worry Bob Bradley will sort us out.
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I blame Carew for the pen miss. I think we would be a couple up had he tucked it away.
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I still fancy us to score but 0-3 is a mountain to climb. Some of our lads just can't get into the game.
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Albrighton having a 'mare against two decent full-backs, Luke Young looks terrible to me, Carew simply doesn't look remotely interested and Ireland is not really able to play in a central two.
This is very poor, and against a really shit team, too.
pretty spot on there.
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What ever they can do in one half, we can do
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were shite
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jesus cant believe this fucking joke !!!!!!!
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We need to pull a goal back before half time.
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I blame Carew for the pen miss. I think we would be a couple up had he tucked it away.
Agreed. An early goal, silence the crowd, get the confidence going. But he blazes it miles over the bar. Pillock.
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Are we playing with Ireland or Sidwell in midfield?
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any one watching in ?US chanel please
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What ever they can do in one half, we can do
Much as I love the optimism, I'm more interested in the reaction after half-time, than the result now.
Is Kev Mac capable of raising them? Or is this going to lead to a total capitulation?
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Well I said first goal's the winner in the pre-match, Carew's penalty absolutely pivotal.
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Typical carew as well. Most strikers would have been playing out of their skin after a pen miss, or at least putting themselves about. But he's vanished.
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Why the hell is Petrov playing in a more forward position than Ireland or is he just too slow to get back and defend?
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Mr Optimist says, if we can nick one now, or even early in the second half, they will fold like a deck of cards and we will win.
Mr Pissed off says, I really hope we can keep it down to 3 or 4 the way we are playing, and fuck off Carew, game after game you take the piss with your insipid performances.
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We need a goal to settle us down, NRC on at half time, take Albrighton off he's having a nightmare
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We need goals and Carew and YOung don't have the right attitude today
Young's looked dangerous. Won a penalty; should have scored.
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Ashley has to play to the whistle far more. He might be getting fouled but he doesn't half look petulant at times.
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Petrov is doing absolutely fuck all.
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Petrov is doing absolutely fuck all.
You sound surprised?
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Ashley has to play to the whistle far more. He might be getting fouled but he doesn't half look petulant at times.
At times? Petulant is his default setting.
That said, he's had some rough treatment today and was wrongly penalised for handball so he's every right to be pissed off this afternoon. But not petulant.
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good job we rested the stars in the week...
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Mr Optimist says, if we can nick one now, or even early in the second half, they will fold like a deck of cards and we will win.
Mr Pissed off says, I really hope we can keep it down to 3 or 4 the way we are playing, and fuck off Carew, game after game you take the piss with your insipid performances.
I agree whole-heartedly about Carew, he seriously needs replacing. By Delfouneso at half-time, and by God knows who in the long term.
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having real problem getting picture please help
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For those who said we had the best deal out of the Milner sale, still saying that?
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Awful, criminally bad.
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Why the hell is Petrov playing in a more forward position than Ireland or is he just too slow to get back and defend?
Well spotted. My thoughts too.
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Commentator said it all...."they have their fair share of grafters in midfield, don't they?"
We have nobody.
Bring on NRC.
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having real problem getting picture please help
you're the lucky one
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well hands up who got carried away last week.......Meeeeeee ! :-[
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Too many long balls.
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having real problem getting picture please help
i wouldn't bother. You will only have nightmares.
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Any one noticed Downing does'nt want to swap with Albrighton, I think he's only swapped twice
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For those who said we had the best deal out of the Milner sale, still saying that?
Oh come on, it's been 45 minutes.
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having real problem getting picture please help
This has been pretty good http://www.livevss.tv/channel1.html
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I'm at work and one of the Bluenoses downstairs has just told me the score. Jesus H!
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right well lesson learned, Ireland and Petrov cannot play in a midfield two. Warnock has been murdered by Routledge and L Young has been rubbish. Shocking from Dunne for the third. That was horrible.
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K-Mac if you can turn this one around you deserve the job.
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How long has it been since Ireland played a full game, give him a chance, FFS!!!!!!
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For those who said we had the best deal out of the Milner sale, still saying that?
Depends who we buy with the money, assuming we buy anyone. Ireland is not a like-for-like replacement for Milner and, consequently, today we have no-one in the middle to win the ball back.
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No leader. No steel. No heart. No inspiration.
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Dear oh dear, who do we blame? Randy hurry up and get us organised please.
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Bye Stan
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The only good thing about this is now randy might stop sitting on the fence and go out and get a new manager now , rather than hoping for the cheap option in keV mac!
If friedal wore a cap he might see where the ball is - 3 soft goals against a team who will struggle to stay up!
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Ireland is a quality player, but cannot play next to Stan. We are wide open in central midfield.
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Think we need to get Ash out to the left. We're getting nothing down the right - take Albrighton off and get the Fonz on to mix it up front
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Get our Nige on, kick the fuck out of Barton to start with, Twerrrrrrwat!!!!!!
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Beat a very poor West Ham 3-0 at home in a game we should have probably scored 6 or 7. We are not world beaters as some of us mistakenly believed last week (me included) and we are not as bad as this half time scoreline suggests.
Newly promoted team with lots of passion everything has gone there way in this first half, the gods are smiling on them today. We are a very inconsistent team, excellent in patches, average and clueless in others, this is why we are not a top 4 team.
Just hope we go out in the 2nd half and show some bite and win the half.
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Mr Optimist says, if we can nick one now, or even early in the second half, they will fold like a deck of cards and we will win.
Mr Pissed off says, I really hope we can keep it down to 3 or 4 the way we are playing, and fuck off Carew, game after game you take the piss with your insipid performances.
I agree whole-heartedly about Carew, he seriously needs replacing. By Delfouneso at half-time, and by God knows who in the long term.
We really need Gabby back fully fit, and fast!
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When was the last time we made a sub at half time? Hopefully we will have today with NRC for Albrighton or Downing, or even bring Fonz on. Wonder if KMac will have the balls to take off Carew at this stage?
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Albrightons doing Ok in my opinion he's taking on his full back either side and keeping him guessing
but we are not crossing enough
that may have to do with 'Big' john going into his shell after the blazed penalty
Ireland made some nice forward runs but no one is used to playing with him yet so it is not going well for him
Petrov is not a defensive midfielder-nice passer of the ball but can't tackle or head or play rough
Carew and petrov off
NRC and Fonz on
for me
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Well, at least we'll find out what Kevin Mac is all about.
It's been boys against men so far. Newcastle have had style when style is needed. They've been strong when strength is needed.
Right, I'm off to the "Who's our next penalty taker" thread.
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Reality check????
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hey cant judge Ireland on 45mins.... but we can judge petrov on the last 12 months and hes 2 slow now simple as ! Id rather Nigel on bit of bite
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Let's see the 2nd half...I still think we can come back...We have been done like this before.
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Without MON I'm at a loss as to who to blame, I feel as confused as our entire defense
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Where was Barry for the penalty >:(
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Absolute, total and utter fucking rubbish. Embarrassing.
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Ridiculous first half.
I don't understand why we appeared to be playing out the first half.
The only dice to throw in from the bench is NRC and Heskey/Fonz.
We could get back in to this but hearing Keegan tak about 6 or 7 makes me want to puke.
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Bring back Sir Brian
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Well, some dreadful stuff there. It was always going to be a tricky game (Newcastle first home game etc etc), but we really have looked terrible in places.
I really think the formation is the first balls-up; Ireland is wasted as it stands, and with Petrov charging forward then we have noone to break up their play. Reo-Coker on, and switch to 4-5-1, would immediately halt that, I think.
Carew is using up any goodwill I held for him very rapidly with this sort of lumbering performance.
I've never been that convinced with Luke Young, and today he has been quite appalling in my view; shoddy tackling, poor positioning.
I'm probably reading too much in to this, but I can't help but think that the players looked a little lackadaisical at the start of the match, and I wonder if that's an issue with no manager (permanent)? I'm always suspicious when players start pleading for their choice of manager - is that the right relationship between manager and players?
Ah well, well see if there's an improvement in the second half - there better be!
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Where was Barry for the penalty >:(
JC wanted to get off the mark -can't blame him for that
can blame him for skyrocketing it over
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Well the bubble after last week has been completely annulated,a clean sheet and a couple of goals is a must for the second half.
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Midfield to light weight and its to late to fix it now. Carew can shite off I was one of his biggest fans but he is seriously taking the piss now. Get NRC on for downing push ashley out wide and let ireland push on. Heskey on for the norwegian Donkey!
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Lets see what we are made of for the second half, We'll see what Kev Mc can do now :'(
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If Emile Heskey is the answer, you're asking the wrong question...
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As much as there may be to admire in our attacking play, it doesn't matter if you can't defend and get completely overrun in midfield whenever the oppo have the ball. 5 players in midfield and every one of them is only interested in attacking. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the line up never boded well. I suppose this may at least force our hand into buying a quality defensive midfielder or two. (although we already have a reasonable one who should be playing).
Other observations:
1. What the hell has happened to Warnock, how the hell can you get ripped apart by fuckin Wayne Routledge.
2. Why is Clark the one continously challenging Carroll. He can't cope with his physicality, Dunney take some responsibility.
3. Mr Carew, your one quality performance in 5 doesn't excuse your patheticness in the other 4, either show some heart or fuck off.
This games gone now, but at least show in the second half that as a team we can learn from our mistakes.
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We're virtually playing 4-2-4 and we're being overrun. I only hope that's the last time Friedel picks the ball out of his net.
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Thank feck Petrov was rested in midweek, I dread to think what he runs like if he's a 'bit tired'.
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Carew is slowly but surely turning into another Heskey.
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Anyone else thinkin randy's holding back on a manager to save money and not have to buy anyone in the transfer window- he's had 2 weeks we are told loads of applications - so why the hold up randy?
Today has shown keV mac as a good coach and nothing more than that.,,rather than holiday in milan randy should be liking for a manager!.
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Midfield to light weight and its to late to fix it now. Carew can shite off I was one of his biggest fans but he is seriously taking the piss now. Get NRC on for downing push ashley out wide and let ireland push on. Heskey on for the norwegian Donkey!
Its not to late at all, we dominated them in the first 15 - 20 minutes, Look at the goals, defensive errors, the defence was shit, Emule on for Carew, sorry but ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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the basic problem we will have in the second half is that newc will sit deep,deny us the space to run in behind
and make us unpick them, then hit us on the break
be prepared for a lot of midfield slogging
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Dawg , how can you say bring on heskey? Astonishing!
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Nightmare first half.
We need to add some respectability to the scoreline now.
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No leader. No steel. No heart. No inspiration.
No goals.
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We actually started pretty well with Ireland and Petrov knocking the ball around a bit, but if you are going to shoot yourself in the foot several times it's going to give your opponents confidence. Friedel should have easily saved the first, and the defending for the other two was a joke. Afraid Albrighton and Clark are looking out of their depth at the moment.
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They just want this more.
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Looks like Petrov and Ireland can't play in a two. Shame because I would've liked to see Young behind the striker more.
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no changes then eh? thought he may as well have gone shit or bust & put fonz on
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Anyone else thinkin randy's holding back on a manager to save money and not have to buy anyone in the transfer window- he's had 2 weeks we are told loads of applications - so why the hold up randy?
Today has shown keV mac as a good coach and nothing more than that.,,rather than holiday in milan randy should be liking for a manager!.
I agree, its all well and good Kev letting the team express themselves, but there has to be a base to do it from. Kamikaze football would be an apt way to describe today so far.
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This game is a good example of why I dont bet on football
Before the pen i said to my bro-"we are going to run this lot to death and get 3 or 4"
then we got the pen i thought "cor.. i should have put some money on this"( ithink in brummie)
then i remembered as a wise man once said
"It's a funny ol' game saint"
"ho ho ho you kill me greavsie"
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Well the half time team talk must have been a shocker.
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for fucks sake carew..RUN
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Newcastle winning every loose ball. Luke Young getting monstered by all.
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The supreme shitness of petrov and L. young summarised in that attack.
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Why the hell is NRC not on?.
Kev you can't think the current system is working surely?
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The midfield is far too fucking open. As Waddle said the defence has no protection.
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45 Minutes gone and Ireland is shit, Petrov is shit, Dunne, Clark, Warnock and Young L. are crap, the midfield doesn't work, the owner and board are idiots for not getting a new manager yet, Kevin MacDonald isn't fit to be our manager and the end of the world is nigh.
A slight over-reaction or two.
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pathetic again Carew
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Right, that's it, Carew back on his heels when he was the only option. Get him off...
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Playing like we're leading 3-0...
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You know what's really winding me up, though? It's watching Collocini totally boss Carew about. He's shit, Collocini, and yet he's looking like fecking Maldini here.
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This reminds me of the class of 87.
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45 Minutes gone and Ireland is shit, Petrov is shit, Dunne, Clark, Warnock and Young L. are crap, the midfield doesn't work, the owner and board are idiots for not getting a new manager yet, Kevin MacDonald isn't fit to be our manager and the end of the world is nigh.
A slight over-reaction or two.
You must be able to see that we are being overrun in midfield?
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45 Minutes gone and Ireland is shit, Petrov is shit, Dunne, Clark, Warnock and Young L. are crap, the midfield doesn't work, the owner and board are idiots for not getting a new manager yet, Kevin MacDonald isn't fit to be our manager and the end of the world is nigh.
A slight over-reaction or two.
You think it's all going according to plan then?
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45 Minutes gone and Ireland is shit, Petrov is shit, Dunne, Clark, Warnock and Young L. are crap, the midfield doesn't work, the owner and board are idiots for not getting a new manager yet, Kevin MacDonald isn't fit to be our manager and the end of the world is nigh.
A slight over-reaction or two.
You must be able to see that we are being overrun in midfield?
Yes, by Kevin Nolan, Joey Barton and Allan Smith.
Three cloggers if ever there were.
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Playing like we're leading 3-0...
I don't know, that will also include playing well.
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Downing you puff!
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Is Dunne actually playing?
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Well we are getting worse.
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Yes Albrighton, that's more like it !
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Albrighton did well there
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Looks like Petrov and Ireland can't play in a two. Shame because I would've liked to see Young behind the striker more.
Have you seriously decided that after one half of a game??
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clear the fucking first man!
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Why no NRC after 55 minutes?!!
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oh no
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oh great. Heskeys coming on
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Heskey, FFS!
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We could easily lose this 6-0 against a poor side- this is truly shocking , even worse here comes heskey!
Kmac-are you mon in disguise?
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Oh fuck.....here Emule!!!!!
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Don't fear, guys. Heskey will get us out of this mess
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oh my god, it just got worse.
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Why no NRC after 55 minutes?!!
The only logical reason why is he isn't fully fit. Otherwise fook knows.
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Heskey? Christ...
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Lawro was pretty much spot on though ;)
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I'd replace Carew....he's been useless.
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It's alreet guys Ivan is coming on.
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Heskey, FFS!
All the Newcastle fans in the pub just cheered.
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Heskey? For Albrighton? Hmmm.......it's so crazy, it might just work!
But it probably won't.
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Heskey FFS that's it i'm done with this shit for today.
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Why is Carew ambling around ? He should be busting his balls yet is even more half arsed than usual
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Right come on Emile, show them how it's done.
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Orthodox 4-4-2?
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7 straight posts slagging Heskey before he even gets on the pitch and has a chance to succeed or fail. Marvellous.
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WHAT ? Take a midfielder off for a forward when we're getting played through ? Why....whyyyyyyyy ?
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Randy you better fuckin spend all of that £16 million.
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500 league games for Heskey....
FFS hoes he do that
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Is Heskey playing right-wing?!?!
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Heskey wide right???
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7 straight posts slagging Heskey before he even gets on the pitch and has a chance to succeed or fail. Marvellous.
I know, I expected more as well.
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7 straight posts slagging Heskey before he even gets on the pitch and has a chance to succeed or fail. Marvellous.
If he scores an hatrick PW, Ill give you a grand
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Heskey wide right? I know Albrighton wasn't getting much change out of Gutierrez - who's having a good game - but it's not a very attacking change is it?
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Least Emile put his foot in, which we have had a severe lack of.
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7 straight posts slagging Heskey before he even gets on the pitch and has a chance to succeed or fail. Marvellous.
What do you mean? Mine was positive!
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7 straight posts slagging Heskey before he even gets on the pitch and has a chance to succeed or fail. Marvellous.
You watch him on a regular basis then
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Do we realise we are 3 down, barely got out of our own half since the break
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Only got in for the 2nd half.
Okay then, is it as bad as the scoreline suggests? Is it time to dial-a-Sven?
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Have we had a shot yet this half?
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Warnock has been absolutely fucking bollocks. And we are showing no fight or bottle.
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45 Minutes gone and Ireland is shit, Petrov is shit, Dunne, Clark, Warnock and Young L. are crap, the midfield doesn't work, the owner and board are idiots for not getting a new manager yet, Kevin MacDonald isn't fit to be our manager and the end of the world is nigh.
A slight over-reaction or two.
You must be able to see that we are being overrun in midfield?
Your point being what exactly?
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45 Minutes gone and Ireland is shit, Petrov is shit, Dunne, Clark, Warnock and Young L. are crap, the midfield doesn't work, the owner and board are idiots for not getting a new manager yet, Kevin MacDonald isn't fit to be our manager and the end of the world is nigh.
A slight over-reaction or two.
You think it's all going according to plan then?
Is that what I said? Am I not right?
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Warnock has been absolutely fucking bollocks. And we are showing no fight or bottle.
not seen him have a good game for a little while now
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4-3 for the Villa then.
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Anyone seen our midfield anywhere???
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About time Reo came on.
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At fucking last - NRC.
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At last - NRC for Carew. Should have happened at half time
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Warnock has been absolutely fucking bollocks. And we are showing no fight or bottle.
TBH Warnock has been shite in all three matches this season. And Young is showing why Cueller was getting in ahead of him. I don' know if that is because the wingers are lightweights or have just been asked not to track back much.
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Here comes Nige ;D
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just backed the draw. 45-1, then Emile comes on :(
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Why didn't the ref play an advantage??!!!
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At fuckin last, fuck off Carew you lazy arrogant prick, thats about the most abject performance you've put in for us, and theres been a few.
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45 Minutes gone and Ireland is shit, Petrov is shit, Dunne, Clark, Warnock and Young L. are crap, the midfield doesn't work, the owner and board are idiots for not getting a new manager yet, Kevin MacDonald isn't fit to be our manager and the end of the world is nigh.
A slight over-reaction or two.
You think it's all going according to plan then?
Is that what I said? Am I not right?
It's difficult to tell what your opinion is since you offer none of your own, content as you are to criticise those of others.
Do you seriously expect after 45 minutes of football which has seen us go 0-3 down to a newly promoted team, on a match thread, to get sober and balanced analysis of the owners, management, and players? Come on.
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get off carew, u tosser
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7 straight posts slagging Heskey before he even gets on the pitch and has a chance to succeed or fail. Marvellous.
I know, I expected more as well.
6....mine was about Newcastle fans.
The stupid tossers are now discussing how good The Damned United was. And what a great portrayal MARTIN Sheen gave.
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I should have stayed at fucking work. This is bobbins. Cheers Martin.
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Now Petrov is playing right-midfield.
Some perplexing stuff, here!
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We have offered absolutely nothing in the second half. I don't know what Kevin MacDonald said at half time but unless it was "The game's gone, just don't let them get any more" then it hasn't worked.
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45 Minutes gone and Ireland is shit, Petrov is shit, Dunne, Clark, Warnock and Young L. are crap, the midfield doesn't work, the owner and board are idiots for not getting a new manager yet, Kevin MacDonald isn't fit to be our manager and the end of the world is nigh.
A slight over-reaction or two.
You think it's all going according to plan then?
Is that what I said? Am I not right?
It's difficult to tell what your opinion is since you offer none of your own, content as you are to criticise those of others.
Do you seriously expect after 45 minutes of football which has seen us go 0-3 down to a newly promoted team, on a match thread, to get sober and balanced analysis of the owners, management, and players? Come on.
I agree with Drummond totally.
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Disgusting
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Oh FFS.
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4-0, shocking.
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We have offered absolutely nothing in the second half. I don't know what Kevin MacDonald said at half time but unless it was "The game's gone, just don't let them get any more" then it hasn't worked.
Nor has that
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We have offered absolutely nothing in the second half. I don't know what Kevin MacDonald said at half time but unless it was "The game's gone, just don't let them get any more" then it hasn't worked.
And even if he did say that, it hasn't worked.
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Very, very, very poor indeed.
I would suggest the search for a new manager is increased in its rapidity.
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More comedy defending. What was Dunne doing ?
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Is Dunne on drugs ?
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Now officially embarrassing. Think KM will decline the offer of the manager's job after this.
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Good bye McDonald!
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7 straight posts slagging Heskey before he even gets on the pitch and has a chance to succeed or fail. Marvellous.
You watch him on a regular basis then
As often as I can, and regardless of whether he plays shit or not, I never see him look as disinterested as Carew often does, be as lazy as Carew often is or go into hiding like Carew does.
By all means slag off a Villa player if they have been genuinely shit in a game, but not before they have even set foot on the pitch.
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Now officially embarrassing. Think KM will decline the offer of the manager's job after this.
I don't think he'll be offered it tbh.
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Glad I have turned over, the only other time I have done so is when England played Germany this summer, another game with a certain inevitability about it. What a load of shite.
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There aren't many wake up calls louder than this
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Jim Barron for ever.
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Wheres Sven... '-) all is forgotten mate..
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So 5 or 6? I'm going for 6.
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I know this may seem like a big statement, but theres has been absolutely zero effort second half.
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we have to laugh now lads ................jesus big reality check for all of us !!!!! Poor Kmac looks lost could it have all been different if we went 1-0 up tho we will never know but we do know that weve been battered since !!!!!!!! so embarassing
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As sunday afternoons go, this is bobbins
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Most embarrasing result since...?
Gutless and clueless all over the pitch.
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So 5 or 6? I'm going for 6.
Only 20 minutes left - can't see us scoring 6 in that space of time
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I know this may seem like a big statement, but theres has been absolutely zero effort second half.
You are wrong.
There has been zero effort since the 3rd goal after 30 mins.
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So, MacDonald has been reading O'Neill's book of bewildering substitutions since last week then.
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It may be a bit early for a post mortem
but i think the way we started was good we got wide and passed the ball
But you can't build anything without firm foundations
we need a big mobile defensive midfielder to do the job Milner did stem the opposition-plug the leaks track back win headers and tackles
petrov cannot do that, he must be competing with ireland and young for the Attacking mid/in the hole position
Young can go wide or play Gabby's second pacy stricker role
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I think Argentina showed in the World Cup, you can't just attack.
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I know this may seem like a big statement, but theres has been absolutely zero effort second half.
You are wrong.
There has been zero effort since the 3rd goal after 30 mins.
It is a touch worrying how we seem to have pretty much rolled over since that 3rd.
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So what about our top 4 chances this season?
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So, MacDonald has been reading O'Neill's book of bewildering substitutions since last week then.
And decided MON was right all along only for........
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Ireland has got to be played as an attacking player and not defensive, but I assumed that was obvious.
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We should sign Newcastles right winger, he's looked a handful.
:-[
Same old fucking Villa. God it's depressing. I'd welcome Sven with open arms at this point.
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Hands up who managed to under-estimate how much work Milner did in the middle?
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This is like a mid-March meltdown performance.
We look tired and clueless all over the pitch.
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collins and cuellar cant get back soon enough ......jsut have 2 forget about 2day....and look forward 2 a yank sorting this mess out !!!!!
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And i had Dunne and Ireland in my fantasy side :-[
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Anyone who expected top 4 this season was deluded.
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So what about our top 4 chances this season?
In my current state of mind I'll be happy with avoiding the bottom 4. I may change my mind after the next game.
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Our defence has just been obliterated when run at or when the ball is crossed into the box.
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Have Villa had a shot on target? I just hope our away form doesn't revert to pre MON days.
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Our defence has just been obliterated when run at or when the ball is crossed into the box.
Because we have no midfield.
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thank fook I didnt buy the ESPN game
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Hands up who managed to under-estimate how much work Milner did in the middle?
To be fair, I don't think many people did underestimate that. But then, I don't think too many people thought we would play Stephen Ireland in a center-midfield two.
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We do have a long and not so proud history of lying down to promoted teams after all.
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45 Minutes gone and Ireland is shit, Petrov is shit, Dunne, Clark, Warnock and Young L. are crap, the midfield doesn't work, the owner and board are idiots for not getting a new manager yet, Kevin MacDonald isn't fit to be our manager and the end of the world is nigh.
A slight over-reaction or two.
You think it's all going according to plan then?
Is that what I said? Am I not right?
It's difficult to tell what your opinion is since you offer none of your own, content as you are to criticise those of others.
Do you seriously expect after 45 minutes of football which has seen us go 0-3 down to a newly promoted team, on a match thread, to get sober and balanced analysis of the owners, management, and players? Come on.
MY opinion, as I stated is that the reaction of a number of people on here is over the top.
Are we playing well? Not in the least.
Is it embarrassing? Yes.
Does that automatically mean that every player we have is shit and that the board and owner are clueless and that our caretaker manager is shit? No, of course it doesn't.
Do I expect sober and rational analysis? No, unfortunately not, it would be nice though wouldn't it?
We looked the better side for large parts of the first half. IF Carew had scored the penalty, if Petrov had got on the end of the cross, if Friedel hadn't palmed the header away so poorly.
If only my 5 year old nephew hadn't gone to the match as his first experience at a football match and as a Villa fan.
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Hands up who managed to under-estimate how much work Milner did in the middle?
A little bit. We're a car with no engine now. Fucking useless! Ireland's been played in a pointless position for him, and Petrov can't cope on his own with 3 central midfields all over him.
Bobbins.
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Our defence has just been obliterated when run at or when the ball is crossed into the box.
Partially, although the awful attempts to clear crosses is down to the defence.
Because we have no midfield.
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This is so painful to watch
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Have Villa had a shot on target? I just hope our away form doesn't revert to pre MON days.
I don't even recall us getting a corner, never mind a shot on target
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2 Attempts on goal..0 on target all match...say's it all really
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The worrying thing is though that Newcastle will struggle to stay up this season,and they have ripped us a new one today.
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3-0 followed by 4-0 with 15 mins to go, at least we're not boring and predictable eh?
This performance is not acceptable in any way, shape or form.
I don't understand what it is that we are trying to do out there.
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2 shots
0 on target.
Awful.
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Shows how bad West Ham are really.
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Hands up who managed to under-estimate how much work Milner did in the middle?
I don't think we underestimated it. I think most of us assumed that at least one defensive minded player would play to compensate for losing Milner.
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What the hell is going on?
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The lack of fight is very worrying. The players would never have shown this lack of fight under MON.
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He's played well, Guttierez. Which is annoying, because he's not very good, really.
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It's true that there's been some overstatement, but it has been a particularly dire performance. I think it's fair that most of us will be recalibrating our expectations of the season today. We have a thin squad, and in Warnock, L. Young, Friedel, Carew and Petrov we have players in key positions who are looking really shaky for reasons of form and age, but we have no ready replacements for. There is also a lack of apparent leadership beyond Dunne.
We're really missing Gabby, Collins and Cuellar (any arguments about him being right back now?), and the full squad is missing strength and threat in the midfield and up front. And a manager.
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I suppose this will speed up getting a new manager now,still hope its not Bradley.
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Without being funny, this kind of game is why England will never win a World Cup. These tactics of Newcastle's - ludicrously physical - have gone totally unpunished all game. I'm not saying we're brilliant or that with better refereeing we wouldn't be losing, but there's no doubt that this Neanderthal 'style' Newcastle are being allowed to get away with would be impossible anywhere else in the world because of refereeing. Because of this, or possibly along with this, other countries put themselves under more stress to produce technically better players. If this is football in England, we've got no chance.
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we need either
Muamba 6' 2"
Moussa Sissoko 6'2"
Mikel 6' 2"
Jack Rodwell see above
basically a big central midfielder any of the above will do
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Fuck me, Downing has just touched the ball I didn't know he was still on the pitch.
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Does that automatically mean that every player we have is shit and that the board and owner are clueless and that our caretaker manager is shit? No, of course it doesn't.
Do I expect sober and rational analysis? No, unfortunately not, it would be nice though wouldn't it?
It would but the match thread, mid-game, is not a reasonable place to expect it.
Besides, you're exaggerating wildly in saying that posters have claimed every player we have is shit and that the board and owner are clueless and that our caretaker manager is shit.
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Luke Young bottled it then.
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Hey I can stand around on the pitch and watch the play just as well as some of these guys!
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How old is Paul Faulkner? He doesn't look any more than about 25.
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How old is Paul Faulkner? He doesn't look any more than about 25.
Can he play RB?
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How old is Paul Faulkner? He doesn't look any more than about 25.
can he score goals
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I hope that at the very very least, Macdonald and the players are brutally honest after the game.
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I suppose this will speed up getting a new manager now,still hope its not Bradley.
Hope it's Klinsmann, I got 14/1 the other day.
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Oh my fucking gosh, that is absolutely the perfect way to sum up this clueless display.
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Five :(
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Ho hum.
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What can you say?
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gutless,clueless and embarrassing
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fucking disgrace
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You fucking usless twats.
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Totally shit
They'll get another one if they get more set pieces.
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Well done lads.....You were truly fucking shit
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Didn't think it could get any worse. It just did. It's one thing getting a pasting from Chelsea, but 5-0 to a bunch of 2nd rate has-beens. Disgraceful.
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It really has been quite woeful, today. The look of a team, in my opinion, who need a new manager sooner rather than later.
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Literally the worst day of my entire calendar year.
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absoloutely shocking 5 against this rubbish
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I don't understand Waddles commentary. Is he after the Villa job ?
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6?
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I feel physically sick
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sub when defending a corner?
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It's disgraceful. It seems they score every time they go near our goal.
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Most depressing thing is, since the penalty miss the scoreline is a fair reflection of our performance.
Not. Fucking. Good enough.
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1..We need Gabby back.
2..Ditto Collins.
3..Our full-backs need a kick up the arse.
4..We cannot play 4-4-2 without Barry or Milner
5..The youngsters were made to look good last weekend and may not be the answer.
6..There's a lot of dead wood on the books.
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On the positive side, at least this hasn't occurred one match after Kev Mac was appointed full time.
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More to the point what experience of football does Paul Faulkner have? Bob Bradley would be a disaster- get an experienced manager who knows the premiership- Sven or jol!
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3 minutes added time, can't they just stop it now?
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no heart no passion and no ability. Shocking performance. This is a MON team and these performances were on show last year. We have a very basic squad unfortunately and we are in desperate need of a striker. Looks like the squad were all on the piss last night.
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This is a truly shocking performance, unforgiveable as it lacks effort, commitment and passion. Woeful. Back down to earth with a bang I feel........
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Clark off, been totally outmuscled all day. Need Collins and Cuellar back very very soon.
After Today, i'll never criticise your right back playing abilities ever again Carlos.
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Heskey has done ok since coming on, but being offside there is foolish\!
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Saw a coaching staff with glasses and SW on the jersey. Who is that ? I thought it is Steve Walford ?
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I really can't work this out.
How the fuck can we ship 5 against what is, with all respect, a very average side?
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Who would have thought after last weekends results that Newcastle would be in positive GD and we would be in Negative by the end of this weekend.
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Hang your heads one and all.
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This shows why Luke Young was never played by MON, I'm afraid.
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Oh shit.
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6-0 Andy Carroll hattrick.....
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Fuck off you fucking ******.
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Six Carroll again Fecking useless
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In the first 20 minutes we dominated, they hadn't a chance. Carew missed 2 golden chances
They scored and its been woeful and that against a newly promoted side.
6-0 a disgrace.
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After the 30th minute this is the worst Villa display I have ever seen.
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There is only one person to blame and that is Mr Lerner, he moved the goal posts and then MON walked out and then he has done nothing to get a new manager.
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The senior players, Dunne, Petrov,etc, haven't stood up and been counted today.
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There is only one person to blame and that is Mr Lerner, he moved the goal posts and then MON walked out and then he has done nothing to get a new manager.
Rrrrriiiiight....
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no heart no passion and no ability. Shocking performance. This is a MON team and these performances were on show last year. We have a very basic squad unfortunately and we are in desperate need of a striker. Looks like the squad were all on the piss last night.
Not away they weren't.
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6-0 has flattered us
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What a truly strange start to the season. losing 6-0 to newcastle, really????
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Thank god thats over. We'd have sruggled to keep it down to single figures
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Last week I posted that the football was some of the best I'd seen in years. This is officially the worst
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Jeez. That's a remarkably bad performance.
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There is only one person to blame and that is Mr Lerner, he moved the goal posts and then MON walked out and then he has done nothing to get a new manager.
hang on a mintute, last week everyoe was praising him and saying how well we played
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There is only one person to blame and that is Mr Lerner, he moved the goal posts and then MON walked out and then he has done nothing to get a new manager.
MON lumbered us with that lot that just played.
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This shows why Luke Young was never played by MON, I'm afraid.
Absolutely. But fans always know better.
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I said that Keegan had called it at half time ffs. I am going to puke.
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This shows why Luke Young was never played by MON, I'm afraid.
oh dear honestly what a load of rubbish. Luke Youngs fault ? you joker
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Oh well we know that KM is cut out for the big job now. Time to get a manager in and sort us out. Randy/board need to grow a pair and speak out now. We have heard fuck all since the day after MON walked out, not good enough im afraid. Time they told us what the fuck is going on............
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A disgrace, we knew the midfield would be too weak away from home but everyone was shite.
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For once I am feeling lucky that I cannot watch the match. It sounds awful but at least it should make up KM's mind for him.
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I have gone on from being bewildered, to being fucking angry.
Unless cnuts. No spirit, no fight.
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There is only one person to blame and that is Mr Lerner, he moved the goal posts and then MON walked out and then he has done nothing to get a new manager.
hang on a mintute, last week everyoe was praising him and saying how well we played
Not everyone, please.
Total capitulation
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This shows why Luke Young was never played by MON, I'm afraid.
oh dear honestly what a load of rubbish. Luke Youngs fault ? you joker
Yes. That's precisely what I said. By saying he didn't have a good game, I of course meant that Luke Young is the sole cause of our joint-heaviest defeat in years. Obviously.
Seriously, do you like causing pointless arguments for no reason? Do you think it's how to make friends?
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This shows why Luke Young was never played by MON, I'm afraid.
oh dear honestly what a load of rubbish. Luke Youngs fault ? you joker
He still isn't very good though.
But you're right, it's Eleven men's fault (plus subs).
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I was at Stamford Bridge when we lost 7-1 and this was far worse.
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This shows why Luke Young was never played by MON, I'm afraid.
Absolutely. But fans always know better.
Pity that Kevin MacDonald didn't. If Luke Young is so obviously shit then why not play Habib Beye?
In any case, to single out Luke Young is unfair, just as it was against Chelsea away last season. The whole defence was shambolic today.
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There is only one person to blame and that is Mr Lerner, he moved the goal posts and then MON walked out and then he has done nothing to get a new manager.
MON lumbered us with that lot that just played.
I'm sorry. You can be angry at MON all you want, but not for that. We've lost heavily before under MON, but rarely if ever against average opposition like that. We were generally very solid away from home.
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This shows why Luke Young was never played by MON, I'm afraid.
oh dear honestly what a load of rubbish. Luke Youngs fault ? you joker
No, its all eleven players fault. Luke Young was as bad as any though and Montys comment was relevant to that. He was clearly not blaming Luke Young solely.
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Oh well we know that KM is cut out for the big job now. Time to get a manager in and sort us out. Randy/board need to grow a pair and speak out now. We have heard fuck all since the day after MON walked out, not good enough im afraid. Time they told us what the fuck is going on............
I was very please with last week - thought the shackles were off the team. Perhaps they have believed their own press after last week.
Just shows the crassness of MON's timing and the Board not being prepared to get this sorted. Won't be rushed? They better be and get some money avaiable too.
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This shows why Luke Young was never played by MON, I'm afraid.
oh dear honestly what a load of rubbish. Luke Youngs fault ? you joker
Yes. That's precisely what I said. By saying he didn't have a good game, I of course meant that Luke Young is the sole cause of our joint-heaviest defeat in years. Obviously.
Seriously, do you like causing pointless arguments for no reason? Do you think it's how to make friends?
He's the one player you singled out, Monty.
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Another 6-0 scoreline this weekend?
I might have said this just after 3-0 in the first half but i never in my wildest nightmares expected it. Arsenal against Blackpool and Chelsea against Wigan or WBA you can understand but we should not be losing at this score against players who most of them were relegated two seasons ago.
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There is only one person to blame and that is Mr Lerner, he moved the goal posts and then MON walked out and then he has done nothing to get a new manager.
MON lumbered us with that lot that just played.
for fuck sake lads, last week you were all saying thats the best we played blah blah
I admit that was the WORST i have ever seen aston villa play, but come on.......
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Oh well we know that KM is cut out for the big job now. Time to get a manager in and sort us out. Randy/board need to grow a pair and speak out now. We have heard fuck all since the day after MON walked out, not good enough im afraid. Time they told us what the fuck is going on............
I was very please with last week - thought the shackles were off the team. Perhaps they have believed their own press after last week.
Just shows the crassness of MON's timing and the Board not being prepared to get this sorted. Won't be rushed? They better be and get some money avaiable too.
Hello,Hello MON left the club 2 weeks ago...........you will be blaming him for the floods in Pakistan, the loss of the Titanic and Shergar going missing next
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From the time they scored their first the whole team was shambolic today.
Had my doubts last season but I don't think Friedal is up to the job any more - doesn't dominate his area; doesn't come for crosses. Do you think we could raid Man City for Given?
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Appalled, embarressed - what a shambles.
Blaming one person alone is not on really, it's a mixture of things.
Very concerning.
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This shows why Luke Young was never played by MON, I'm afraid.
oh dear honestly what a load of rubbish. Luke Youngs fault ? you joker
Yes. That's precisely what I said. By saying he didn't have a good game, I of course meant that Luke Young is the sole cause of our joint-heaviest defeat in years. Obviously.
Seriously, do you like causing pointless arguments for no reason? Do you think it's how to make friends?
He's the one player you singled out, Monty.
Just to say that MON was right to pick Cuellar over him. In case you hadn't noticed, there was once a little debate on the subject.
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Shit Everton are actually not bad, i shudder to think of next sunday.
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Quite simply Villa looked like a team without a leader. In terms of fight and spirit, as bad as almost any Villa performance I have ever seen, against a very very average Newcastle team.
We need a manager with presence who can lead the whole club from the front, just like MON did. Unfortunately managers of that qualaity are rare, so who the person is, I have no idea.
Hopefully this performance won't lead to any knee jerk reactions from Randy, but the club simply can't let things drift.
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Just to say that MON was right to pick Cuellar over him. In case you hadn't noticed, there was once a little debate on the subject.
On the basis of one game in which everyone was shite, O'Neill was right to pick Cuellar over Young in every instance last season? Jesus Monty, you're on fire today.
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Just to say that MON was right to pick Cuellar over him. In case you hadn't noticed, there was once a little debate on the subject.
On the basis of one game in which everyone was shite, O'Neill was right to pick Cuellar over Young in every instance last season? Jesus Monty, you're on fire today.
Far from one game, I didn't think he was very good last week either. Nor any time he's played in the last year.
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Oh well we know that KM is cut out for the big job now. Time to get a manager in and sort us out. Randy/board need to grow a pair and speak out now. We have heard fuck all since the day after MON walked out, not good enough im afraid. Time they told us what the fuck is going on............
I was very please with last week - thought the shackles were off the team. Perhaps they have believed their own press after last week.
Just shows the crassness of MON's timing and the Board not being prepared to get this sorted. Won't be rushed? They better be and get some money avaiable too.
Hello,Hello MON left the club 2 weeks ago...........you will be blaming him for the floods in Pakistan, the loss of the Titanic and Shergar going missing next
Yeah I am blaming him. Great preparation in leaving us at the time that he did. He knew the score at the end of last season and should have gone then. He didn't.
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Just to say that MON was right to pick Cuellar over him. In case you hadn't noticed, there was once a little debate on the subject.
On the basis of one game in which everyone was shite, O'Neill was right to pick Cuellar over Young in every instance last season? Jesus Monty, you're on fire today.
.. and he's blatantly wrong too.
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Just to say that MON was right to pick Cuellar over him. In case you hadn't noticed, there was once a little debate on the subject.
On the basis of one game in which everyone was shite, O'Neill was right to pick Cuellar over Young in every instance last season? Jesus Monty, you're on fire today.
Far from one game, I didn't think he was very good last week either. Nor any time he's played in the last year.
He played quite well over the Xmas period last year. Then soon as Collins came back into the fold after injury, was dropped to the bench.
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Difficult to know where to start.Petrov lamentable, Carew anonymous - and then there were the rest.One of the worst performances I have seen, against a very average team.
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For those thinking that losing our best player (for the second year running) and one of the leagues best managers I'd suggest thinking again. We have a worse squad from last season and no leadership from the top. 3 top six finishes in a row was our best run of league results since before the second world war and playing a few kids is not going to better it. Ellis would never have got away with what the current lot are doing at the moment.
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Just to say that MON was right to pick Cuellar over him. In case you hadn't noticed, there was once a little debate on the subject.
On the basis of one game in which everyone was shite, O'Neill was right to pick Cuellar over Young in every instance last season? Jesus Monty, you're on fire today.
Far from one game, I didn't think he was very good last week either. Nor any time he's played in the last year.
He played quite well over the Xmas period last year. Then soon as Collins came back into the fold after injury, was dropped to the bench.
I disagree, I think he gets dragged out of position too much and uses the ball poorly, hitting it long too much for my liking.
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It's not quite the end of the world. As strange as it sounds, we should've won that, but, largely thanks to Carew, we didn't.
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It's not quite the end of the world. As strange as it sounds, we should've won that, but, largely thanks to Carew, we didn't.
Thats the wrost i've seen him play,like a shitter version of Heskey,ball bouncing off,he seemed like he couldnt even run at times,shows you what a good player Gabby is when he doesnt play,no one to run into the wings to stretch the opponents defense.
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When is Gabby due back? I'd play him with one leg after that performance!
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Can we move to the post match thread, please?