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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Risso on August 19, 2010, 01:17:56 PM
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0-2 Villa
Barton's moustache to get even more ridiculous.
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bit too early yet isn't it haven't played tonight yet.
Going for 2-0 tho Ireland and Dunne
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Total annihilation please. I hate Newcastle with a passion that I cannot explain
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Without aiming to jinx anything, they looked awful the ther day. I know it was Man U, but it'not like the past where they had some very good players mixed in with the dross. There really isn't one standout player in that team, and if we can win against Rapid tonight, a bit more confidence, plus our rested players coming back we should have too much for them. We have to be wary of the first home game back scenario, but I'm going for 3-1 to us.
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Didn't see them against Man U, but I think we're comfortably the better side man-for-man. Don't like predictions before we play tonight, but I'll be looking to see if K-Mac can maintain the excellent away record we had under the previous manager.
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we will beat them comfortably if we play anything like we played against the hammers
also with certain players rested for the Vienna game we should be fresh
they took a bit of a beating from man U but they will look at our performance and quake!
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Total annihilation please. I hate Newcastle with a passion that I cannot explain
Maybe this will explain it. From an article about the day we sent them down in the Newcastle Chronicle:
"That day Villa fans unfurled some unsavoury banners reading “Sob On The Tyne” and “Whose Your Next Messiah, Ant or Dec?” as Brummie fans, surprisingly, took terrace banter too far for some."
They take themselves so unbelievably seriously, and they really believe that it's a crime for other clubs' fans not to love them for their "passion" which, as far as I can tell, consists of being really fat and really stupid. It's so irritating you could just spit.
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tut tut
geordies not having a sense of humour re the downfall of their beloved club ;D
i have no axe to grind with them
but they will persist in delusional fantasies, keegan/shearer the messiah etc
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It's more the lack of self-awareness, Bill. If they insist on using words like "Messiah", how can they possibly complain when people use that against them? Don't they know how pompous they sound?
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1-1. Carroll 29, Carew 76.
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Martin Atkinson is the man in charge on Sunday.
In his last match, between Liverpool and Arsenal, he showed 2 red cards.
Dean Mohareb (chequered flag) and Paddy Keane (yellow flag) are his assistants, while Stuart Attwell is 4th official.
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Unsavoury? What delicate little flowers they are.
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I am going for a villa win 2-1 with gabby and young scoring.
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They used to be irritating but now they're just a complete joke of a club, they really seem to dislike us for putting the final nail in their relegation coffing two years back, conveniently forgetting how appauling they were for the rest of that season, suppose its easier to blame others than to just admit that they were shit, having said all that they'll be well up for this and i can see a 1-1, hope im wrong and we annihilate them though
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Hopefully Ireland starts for us in this game. Would be nice to see the same formation we thrashed West Ham with... gotta include Albrighton again.
This is a game we really should be winnning on paper, and we know the cartoons are pretty bad, but we've still got to be 100% up for this as I don't think we'll win as easily as most think, but I still predict a Villa win - maybe 0-1 or 1-2.
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I have definately heard our former head coach refered to as the "M*****h"!!
Now that is delusional.
I will go for 0-1 which would suit just fine!!
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It's Superman's birthday on Sunday. I'm backing him for a goal on his debut.
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I think we'll do these.
1-3
Downing
Carew
Ireland
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3-0 to villa.
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3-0 to villa.
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3-1 Villa. Ireland, Young (A), Albrighton.
I love beating this mob.
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I gota bad feeling that Ireland and Barton might throw the hangbags at each other and both get sent off.
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I have definately heard our former head coach refered to as the "M*****h"!!
Yes but it's thick fuckers trying to take the piss by making the same 'joke' 20 times per week.
Edit: By the way it is 'definitely'.
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A draw at the very least
2-2 with Newcastle grabbing a 90th minute equalizer
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Noocasel 0 Villa 2
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Draw I think, Their first home game, They will want some kind of revenge and apart from the 3-0 its not really been a happy hunting ground for us
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After reading some of the utter drivel written by Newcastle fans about us this week I hope we give them an absolute pasting. I don't really understand why they are blaming us for them being shit that entire season.
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Think he might leave Albrighton out for this one and save him for Thursday. 4 games in 10 days when he has little first team expereince might be a step too far and we don't want to risk him losing his confidence.
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i have gone for draw on predition.. But would be suprised If Villa didnt win this, it is the barcodes first home game thou but they are shite.... would have preferred them in Feb
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Think he might leave Albrighton out for this one and save him for Thursday. 4 games in 10 days when he has little first team expereince might be a step too far and we don't want to risk him losing his confidence.
Tempted to do the same, with Petrov and NRC holding behind Ireland, Young and Downing with hopefully Gabby playing in front of them.
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Im very confident we will win this .
0-2.
Carew, Ireland.
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I'd be happy with a draw tbh given our pretty dire record up there plus it's their first home game since promotion and the battering they took at the mancs. And we all know that in such circumstances, the little club will fire themselves up for the visit of a big club.
1-1.
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I've gone for a home win because nobody else has and that has to be a bad omen.
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I think it depends massively on who is fit to start up front for us. If we have to play Emile, I can see a bore draw.
Anyone know the latest? I'm unclear whether JC is injured or was just rested for today?
I too think he might bring Ireland in for Albrighton, and NRC for Milner, but we shall see.
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It's their first home game back in the Prem so will be fired up. The Barcode fans still remember 'Sob On The Tyne' so it could also be a hostile atmosphere.
If we play as well as last week, and they play as bad as they did against Manure on Monday then we'll hammer them. 8 of their team that played at Old Trafford this week were in the team that got relegated a few years ago so they aren't up to much. That said I've got no idea what to predict for this one!
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Total annihilation please. I hate Newcastle with a passion that I cannot explain
Maybe this will explain it. From an article about the day we sent them down in the Newcastle Chronicle:
"That day Villa fans unfurled some unsavoury banners reading “Sob On The Tyne” and “Whose Your Next Messiah, Ant or Dec?” as Brummie fans, surprisingly, took terrace banter too far for some."
They take themselves so unbelievably seriously, and they really believe that it's a crime for other clubs' fans not to love them for their "passion" which, as far as I can tell, consists of being really fat and really stupid. It's so irritating you could just spit.
Although I have a bit of a soft spot for Newcastle for a few reasons, I have to say the writer of that article should realise banners like those would probably have been seen at any ground which happened to host their relegation.
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Newcastle supporters think every other club are jealous of them, for some reason. They'll want to win this match more than they'll want to beat Sunderland. A draw will be a good result.
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I've gone for a home win because nobody else has and that has to be a bad omen.
Beat me to it, Monty.
It's going to be a very tough game and I'm going for a 2-1 defeat. They'll probably get a penalty or some dodgy goal but it's never been a good hunting ground for us.
Hope I'm wrong.
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I don't know what it is about Newcastle, but I can't think of any team I'd like them to beat.
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The only time I would be pulling for Newcastle would be when they play Citeh. Villa 3 - Newcastle nil. Albrighton, Ireland and Dunne. I'd love to see Ireland gel with Albrighton.
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Noocastle 2 - 3 Us
Noocastle: Joey Moustachioed Arse & Fat Sam Fav Kev
Us: Ash, Birthday Boy & Dunney
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Our American friend is back and i like his theory.....
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Hope someone is posting the above on their fan websites.
You know how upset they get when someone has a joke at their expense.
And lets face it, there has been a lot of jokes and on their part a lot of expense.
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The atmosphere will be load and hostile as it is their first home game back where "They belong" WE will need to take care not to concede in the opening 15/20 mins and to take some of their enegrgy out of the game. We need to score first to take the wind out of their sails and then take the game over
WE cannot lose sight of the fact that they are still very shit once all the hype and bluster is stripped away
a nervy 20 minutes then we take control
2-0 us Ash and Ireland
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Not sure why they've got a bee in their bonnet about us having a couple of banners when they got relegated. What did they expect, black armbands?
I can see them being a yo-yo team for the next few years so they'd better get used to it.
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OK, now last night is out of the way I'll make a prediction - K-Mac's Villa to keep the momentum going and get an away win. We weather an early storm and get one on the break. Final result 1-2 to us.
It'll be intersting if he has afew back to see who he leaves out, although Clark not playing last night suggests to me that he isn't expecting Collins or Cuellar to be fit. Wouldn't be surprised if it's the same side as we saw against West Ham.
EDIT: except for Milner, obviously!
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Newcastle are a strange one for me, as all they really deserve is to be patronised (in a plucky-little-Blackpool / Burnley kind of way), but I can't help but despise them for some reason. Here's hoping we do them proper.
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Bit worried about this. Probably more than I should be.
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To quote one of the greatest ever comments made on H&V:
"Funeral the toon"
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Pain in the arse getting any newly promoted team in their first home game. They'll be really up for it. Think Burnley V Manure last year.
I'll go for a 1-1 draw.
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Is the general consensus that Ireland will come in straight for Milner??
Difficult one to call. I would definitely keep Albrighton in the team, he must chomping at the bit to play every game now, so I dont see any reason not to give him a good long run.
It will be interesting to see how Newcastle line out. Even though they are at home, I wouldnt be surprised to see them line out in a 4-5-1 again.
I reckon their main aim will be not to lose.
Is this a 1.30 kick off or 2 o'clock??
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1-1. Barton for them, Carew with the equaliser.
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Is this a 1.30 kick off or 2 o'clock??
Just checked website, it's 1:30
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Is this a 1.30 kick off or 2 o'clock??
Just checked website, it's 1:30
Great, should get to see the whole match before I go to Croker to watch the Dubs wipe the floor with the Rebels!
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Carol (hair to match) is the only real goal threat - or should be if our MD track their ASBO's.
So I have just put the lanky girl in my Fantasy Team - He won't score now for sure!!
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They will be well up for this one, we will be lucky to escape with a draw, I think.
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Pain in the arse getting any newly promoted team in their first home game. They'll be really up for it. Think Burnley V Manure last year.
I'll go for a 1-1 draw.
Think Stoke-Villa two years ago.
It won't be pretty.
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0-2
Downing and Ireland
I think Albrighton looked a bit weary last night and think he might need a rest to prevent burnout.
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0-1 Dunne
I think this one is gonna be tight.
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If they play like they did vs urinal and we play like we did against the kitstealers we should marmalise them by a cricket score.
1-0 loss :o(
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This will finish in a draw, most likely 1-1.
Which at least would be an improvement on our last visit there when Oba-Oba tore us a new one.
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To quote one of the greatest ever comments made on H&V:
"Funeral the toon"
God bless Saranyu, he took over SeattleVillan's mantle with aplomb.
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If we have decent full strength squad then we will win - and easily, passing it about and making good use of the wings.
If EH plays then well...............
UTV.
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Was Carew 'rested' on Thursday so he'd have more time to recover from his injury so he could play on Sunday? Our chances will rise even higer if Carew plays, the opposite will happen if Heskey plays.
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A bit concerned about this one, to be honest. The home-opener of their return to Premiere League football means they will come out firing. Still, these are the games we need to win if we are really to push on.
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Was Carew 'rested' on Thursday so he'd have more time to recover from his injury so he could play on Sunday? Our chances will rise even higer if Carew plays, the opposite will happen if Heskey plays.
I really can't see Heskey playing, even as a sub, after his performance in Vienna last night. I hope we stick to 4-4-1-1, perhaps with Carew starting and Gabby coming on if needed.
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From the NUFC Forum:
that albrighton kid scares me though
On the evidence of the last two games I think Albrighton is going to scare a lot of defenders. His opposing full back last night picked up a yellow card and I can see defenders panicking and giving away free kicks. If they double-mark him, it'll leave more space for Ashley in the middle.
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0-2
Downing and Ireland
I think Albrighton looked a bit weary last night and think he might need a rest to prevent burnout.
Really!? 20 years old and on the verge of burnout after 2 games?
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Barcodes 1 Villa 3.
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I'm tempting fate here, but I've just looked at their squad. They'll do well to get out of the bottom 6 this season.
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2- 1 to Villa.
-----------------------Friedel
Young-------Dunne---------Clark-------Warnock
---------------Petrov-------Reo Coker
Downing------------Ireland--------------Young
-----------------------Carew
Guzan, Beye, Davies, Bannan, Albrighton, Heskey, Delfouneso
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If we were playing them in a month's time I'd be confident but first game back in the big time makes it difficult. We'll nick a draw.
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It will be hard, but like with west ham last week, if we play well we should win!
I dont know why they are upset about us taking the piss when they went down. To me the biggest piss take that day, was how gutless their team were in the 2nd half when they knew they had to score to stand any chance of staying up. Rarely can a team in that situation have surrended in the manner they did.
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..........................Freidel.........................
Young....Dunne.......Clark......Warnock...
.............Reo-Coker....Petrov..................
Albrighton.......Young......Downing.........
.....................Carew..............................
Ireland to come on in the 2nd half if need be
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Was Carew 'rested' on Thursday so he'd have more time to recover from his injury so he could play on Sunday? Our chances will rise even higer if Carew plays, the opposite will happen if Heskey plays.
According to K-Mac he has a niggle that needs to be managed. I think he missed Thursday to be ready for this one.
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Having Albrighton, Young and Downing across the middle of the park will scare a lot of teams.
That we'll have a player of the quality of Ireland coming off the bench (I'm obviously assuming he won't start due to match fitness) is a very good sign and really something to stir up a tiring defence in the last half hour.
How on earth do you mark those three players who can rotate in the blink of an eye? Man marking is out of the question and being even slightly drawn out of position to one of those players will leave the not only the other two open but Petrov bombing through the middle.
It is truly scary. I'm glad we don't have to face them!
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Quotes from some of the toon lads on their forums
"Young v Perch makes my bottom squeak."
"By the end of the game Carew is going to be calling Colo his new bitch. It's going to be a long season."
If we can frustrate them for 30mins and get a goal the fans will soon get restless too. They're clearly not too confident about the game. One guy said we're nothing special what's everyone worried about and he got slammed.
I think hard 20 mins. First goal goes in, they'll bottle it and the fans moan "here we go again" and we could come out of this with comfortable 2 or 3-0 win
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Mazrims side would be my choice aswell. Ireland from the start and then replaced after he tires. Step up Ashley Young, rested mid week and im expecting him to show his worth as our star player this season. This wont be a push over tho, lets hope the players stay focused.
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I'm confident we'll win, but we need to be careful. It's their first home match back in the Premier League, and they and the fans will be right up for it.
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1-1. think we'll be a bit disjointed with milner gone.
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I hope Ireland starts, creates and then can come off in the last 15 mins for NRC to be more combative in application.
2-1 Villa
UTV
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1-1. think we'll be a bit disjointed with milner gone.
I think there may be something in this as his non-stop running really covers for a lot of players that fail to get back due to ball-watching, unfitness, lazyness or lack of willingness to tackle.
However, I think it'll only take a couple of games to get over that and Newcastle are no contest for the fire-power we have.
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I'm confident we'll win, but we need to be careful. It's their first home match back in the Premier League, and they and the fans will be right up for it.
yep, reminds me a bit of the Stoke away game two seasons ago when we got turned over there.
Won't be a walk in the park, I'd be fairly content with a draw.
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Cuellar's just tweeted that he's not in the team tomorrow. He's been given another week to get fully fit, so Luke Young should be playing at right back.
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I'm not sure whether we should pop Downing or Albrighton on the bench for this. both played mid-week, and both played well last Saturday, but then Downing has played 180 minutes in two games which has left me thinking of a switch.
Maybe bring Ireland in and put him the hole behind Carew, with Ash going out onto the flank and Nigel keeping his spot in a central two with Stan. We’ll still have of width and pace, a player in the hole and a lot of industry and running from Nigel, but without the dopey European referee to ping him for nothing.
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I hope Ireland doesn't start.
Chances are if anyone has to make way under those circumstances it will be Albrighton, and that will be a bit of a slap in the face after the start to the season he's had.
He might tire after the 60/70 minute mark though, as he looked dead on his feet in Vienna in the latter stages. Perfect time to bring on a not fully up to speed Ireland and exploit any gaps with his pinpoint passing.
The other option would be to start Ireland more central, alongside Petrov.
But a midfield containing Ireland, Downing, Albrighton and Young might be too lightweight, even for shite like the Toon. I'd prefer to see NRC in there. It will be his type of game, and I don't see the likes of Barton, Smith or Nolan worrying him.
As poor as Newcastle are, I think they'll be well up for this. And if they get some momentum behind them early on it could be tricky.
I'll go for 1-1 or 2-2.
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Same team as last Saturday with Ireland instead of Milner.
A win.
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I'm confident we'll win, but we need to be careful. It's their first home match back in the Premier League, and they and the fans will be right up for it.
yep, reminds me a bit of the Stoke away game two seasons ago when we got turned over there.
Won't be a walk in the park, I'd be fairly content with a draw.
Have Newcastle got someone who can throw 40 yards in an almost straight trajectory? And iirc we had a pen turned down and then they went up the other end and got a dodgy one.
Anyway if we do win we could be second until ManU play.
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Anyway if we do win we could be second until ManU play.
Or joint top if we win 9-0!
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Anyway if we do win we could be second until ManU play.
Or joint top if we win 9-0!
Get real ya muppet. We're going to win 10-0 and be top!
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I know football's a game where anything can happen
but i can't believe the pessimism of those going for a draw :o
Our squad is on a mental up/buzz etc shackles off all places up for grabs etc
Newcastle have had a sharp reminder that mistakes are punished -and so quickly(not used to the pace yet)
(John Gregory's autobiog has a story of him not believing how fast the Prem was after being Wycome manager-he had got accustomed to the pace at his level,as some newc players have)
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I dont have ESPN is it on the net at all?
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Ill admit it im getting totally carried away by the signing of Ireland ive totally forgot we wont have Milner today I think the lad has been honest and really has a point to prove and we need to get behind him to see his best ....Still unsure if he will start but I hope he does come in as somebody else has mentioned same team as last week with Ireland will suit me fine and at 13-1 for first goal Superman is worth a cheeky tenner of anyones money if he does start especially on his birthday ........also 4.5/1 for a red card is also on the books with this trigger happy ref !
Ill stop with the betting tips now and for the match itself.......Never easy on Tyneside especially on Live TV where the brown ale drinkin, pot bellied geordies will be screaming for a win over usafter us sending em down tho I really can see a hard fought victory for the boys in claret and blue.
1-2 Villa - Ireland 42
Young 65
Come on u villa !
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Crowd will be up for it, but their team's confidence will be fragile, so we MUST come out of the blocks quickly and make the place go quiet. First goal's the winner today.
Still refusing to subscribe to ESPN, so I'm taking my sons into the wilds of a Waltham Abbey town centre pub today.
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I dont have ESPN is it on the net at all?
Id say itll defo be on Veetle or Iraq goals
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I think we will def miss Milner. however 2-0 to the Villa. Carew & Ash to score.
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---------------------Friedel-------------------
---Young---Dunne---Clark---Warnock---
--------------------Petrov---------------------
---Albrighton-------------------Downing----
---------------Ireland---Young---------------
--------------------Carew----------------------
That is the formation I'd like to see. Let's attack them from the off.
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Friedel; L Young, Dunne, Clark, Warnock; Albrighton, Ireland, Petrov, Downing; A Young, Carew. Subs: Guzan, Delfouneso, Reo-Coker, Bannan, Beye, Lichaj, Heskey.
Note. 1 Change from team against West ham Ireland in the Milner and Davis completely out of squad injury?
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Albrighton will score today.
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I think Ireland will come on off the bench. Ease him in. Not played a game in ages. Wont be match fit. Makes sense seeing how the game pans out then bringing him on with 20 mins to go when their defence is tired and he can have a run at them. Maybe have Ireland starting against vienna, seein how he gets on there and then maybe start against everton
I wouldn't be suprised if downing starts centre midfield or maybe NRC and getting petrov further forward
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Mate that's actual team i posted
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LOL really? Sorry dude!