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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: D.boy on August 17, 2010, 09:49:47 PM

Title: New penalty taker?
Post by: D.boy on August 17, 2010, 09:49:47 PM
With Milner going who do you think will be our new penalty taker?
Carew would be my choice but will he play every game, probably not so which regular should get the responsibilty?
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Dave on August 17, 2010, 09:51:09 PM
Ireland
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: pr_N'villa on August 17, 2010, 09:52:49 PM
No one really stands out, we missed alot of penalties last season, i wonder if gabby is any good from the spot? Might get the 20 goals a season out of him then! Just a thought UTV!!!!
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: TheSandman on August 17, 2010, 09:53:40 PM
Did he take pens for City?

Keane if we get him. Carew if he's playing. If not I'd be tempted to vote Ireland as well.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: D.boy on August 17, 2010, 09:57:15 PM
Did Ireland take the penalties for citeh?
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Dave on August 17, 2010, 09:57:49 PM
Don't think so. Elano would be my guess.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Monty on August 17, 2010, 09:59:11 PM
Petrov has good connection and is very calm. I always get the feeling that he has the most blocked long shots in the league.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: JJ-AV on August 17, 2010, 10:00:28 PM
Carew. If he's not playing, then Ashley.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: seanthevillan on August 17, 2010, 10:02:21 PM
Don't think so. Elano would be my guess.

Tevez took them last season, Elano before that.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Andyg on August 17, 2010, 10:04:49 PM
Ashley or Luke Young, makes it easier for journalists.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: midnite on August 17, 2010, 10:06:07 PM
Ashley young would be my shout. Whats Downing's Spot kicks like?
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Monty on August 17, 2010, 10:07:23 PM
Ashley young would be my shout. Whats Downing's Spot kicks like?

Bet he hits the bar.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: midnite on August 17, 2010, 10:08:40 PM
Ashley young would be my shout. Whats Downing's Spot kicks like?

Bet he hits the bar.

lol
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: VillaZogmariner on August 17, 2010, 10:09:10 PM
Brad
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: The Villa Werewolf on August 17, 2010, 10:12:53 PM
Carew was first choice penalty taker ahead of Milner anyway.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: D.boy on August 17, 2010, 10:12:55 PM
Brad! Bloody hell the keeper facing him would hide behind the goal amongst the fans. We thought Carew can put his foot through the ball.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: ozzjim on August 17, 2010, 11:21:21 PM
And with his new tiger armed shirt, he would look scary (almost like Sully from Monsters inc actually) just running up
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Villa'Zawg on August 17, 2010, 11:27:52 PM
Gabby. It's time he became our senior striker and we should be prepared to allow him time to learn to become a penalty taker.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: paul_e on August 17, 2010, 11:49:14 PM
I'd go for Downing I think.  He took them for Middlesborough a few years back and did very well and as he's very much a confidence player getting a few goals would be good for him (conversely missing a pen would be a blow but I'd trust him).

If not probably big John or Gabby (which ever is playing), I always like the idea of strikers taking the pens, just by having to practice them it teaches them a bit of calmness under pressure which hopefully translates to 1-on-1s, etc.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: d.boy junior(sid) on August 18, 2010, 12:30:07 AM
Only thing with ash is he only ever puts it too his right Carew needs to calm down abit and he'd be great with more placement tbh but who knows maybe albrighton could have a good shout :)
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: GullyFoyle on August 18, 2010, 07:48:05 AM
Heskey, Man City have bought our last 2 penalty takers.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 18, 2010, 08:07:16 AM
Heskey, Man City have bought our last 2 penalty takers.

I like the cut of your jib young man
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Pete3206 on August 18, 2010, 08:14:44 AM
What's wrong with Carew taking them?
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Matt C on August 18, 2010, 08:25:02 AM
I'm a big fan of Carew's 'hit it as hard as you possibly can' penalty taking technique.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 18, 2010, 08:27:02 AM
Carew when he's on the pitch.

Ireland or Young otherwise.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: frank on August 18, 2010, 08:28:36 AM
Not Ashley. He's missed at least 2 out of not many attempts.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on August 18, 2010, 08:36:14 AM
Didn't Downing miss about 4 or 5 in one season for 'Boro? I'm sure I remember him missing a couple in one game or missing in consecutive games.

If Carew was playing every game I would give him the job, as he probably won't I would give it Ireland.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: darren woolley on August 18, 2010, 09:29:43 AM
ashley young or i would give it to downing.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: mshurst on August 18, 2010, 10:38:54 AM
Personally, I love Carew's approach to penalties. He just thwacks it with so much power it's untrue. Too many penalties now-a-days are placed ... and boring!

I get the feeling that if any goal keeper did get a hand to one of big John's penalties then it'd cause a bit of damage.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on August 18, 2010, 04:39:41 PM
I want a power penalty taker not a pussy foot tap kicker.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: gervilla on August 18, 2010, 09:07:21 PM
John " Blast the shit out of it " Carew.
I'd keep Ashley away from it.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: carlos the third on August 18, 2010, 09:20:17 PM
Cuellar
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Lee on August 18, 2010, 09:41:01 PM
John " Blast the shit out of it " Carew.
I'd keep Ashley away from it.

Carew has a better hit rate than Angel had. Give it the big man
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: alan_clarke on August 18, 2010, 09:48:27 PM
I cant imagine Gabby being any good at penalties whatsoever.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on August 18, 2010, 09:56:07 PM
Carew all day ................
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Gregorys Boy on August 19, 2010, 12:50:20 AM
Carew if on the pitch, if not Ashley Young seems a safe bet.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 19, 2010, 01:24:29 AM
I'll go with that too.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: ktvillan on August 19, 2010, 10:31:29 AM
Those backing A Young - on what basis are you advocating him? Just because he's a forward with a bit of skill?  Have you not seen some of the absolutely shit penalties he's taken for us?  What is it 3 out of 4 or 5 he's missed? Has to be Carew if he's on the pitch, otherwise I'd be tempted to let Dunne blast them in.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Summers on August 19, 2010, 10:35:06 AM
Carew then Downing then either Warnock or Ireland (if he's any good, I dunno.)
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Surrey Villain on August 19, 2010, 12:38:15 PM
The older ones amongst us, alright very older ones, will remember Stan Lynn taking penalties! I think the goalkeepers prayed he wouldn't hit it straight down the middle!  He also blasted them in from short corners.  It was a brave, or stupid, defender who got in his way when they saw him thundering in.  The ball was heavier then as well so was like a cannon ball at the feet of Stan Lynn.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: D.boy on August 19, 2010, 01:17:51 PM
Ash missed one against Rapid last season.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Concrete John on August 19, 2010, 01:23:01 PM
Does anyone know if Ireland takes a good penalty?

Carew is the obvious choice, but will we see enough of him once Gabby is fit if we're going with a 4-4-1-1? 
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: JJ-AV on August 19, 2010, 02:33:21 PM
Ashley's got his swagger back, get him on them if Johnny ain't on the field.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 19, 2010, 03:53:38 PM
Who the hell's going to take it if we get one tonight??
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: jamestownvilla on August 19, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
why not warnock ??
and delph should play more often with milner gone
but i would let carew or petrov
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2010, 10:34:57 PM
Warnock
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 20, 2010, 11:55:47 AM
Carew.

If not then Downing as he took a few at Boro. Did ireland take any at City?
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 20, 2010, 06:32:51 PM
I'd like to see what gabby is like.  He usually gets 10-15 goals a season without penalties so the opportunity to bag 5 more goals a season could elevate him from a good striker to a great striker, in people's perceptions at least. 

I think this boost in confidence would help his game no end.

Of course, if he's bobbins at it then Carew (if playing), Petrov or Ireland should be given a crack. 
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: BannedUserIAT on August 22, 2010, 02:29:47 PM
After the newcastle match, anyone but Carew. That was awful and, to make it worse, the miss has buggered his game right up.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: eamonn on August 22, 2010, 07:56:23 PM
The ''hit it as hard as you physically can'' routine falls down when you don't account for aim. From Yorkie's cheeky dink to Carew's piledriver we've certainly seen the spectrum of penos.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 22, 2010, 08:03:33 PM
I'd go for Ireland. He can place a ball anywhere he wants.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 22, 2010, 08:05:40 PM
I'm actually surprised Ash didn't take it, or even Downing. I think that's the last we've seen of Carew from 12 yards mind you.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Ads on August 22, 2010, 08:06:39 PM
Dan Carter
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Monty on August 22, 2010, 09:31:52 PM
I always worry about both Carew and Young's mental states, they seem a bit fragile and prone to overthinking. Maybe Petrov? He's calm under pressure.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 22, 2010, 09:42:59 PM
I think Ashley should take them. His conversion rate so far is shit but so was Yorke's at first... his technique is good enough to make him a regular penalty scorer. I have been saying for a while that Carew's "whack it and hope" was more luck than judgement.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: TimTheVillain on August 22, 2010, 09:45:41 PM
We haven't got one !

I'd have gone with JC before today, but my oh my.

New striker = new penalty taker.

No Manager = no new striker.

Dear me.

Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 22, 2010, 09:51:34 PM
Bring back Bouma!
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on August 22, 2010, 09:52:42 PM
Our new #9.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: D.boy on August 22, 2010, 10:46:25 PM
We haven't got one !

I'd have gone with JC before today, but my oh my.

New striker = new penalty taker.




Come on down Keane
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Guy M on August 23, 2010, 07:54:31 AM
Our new #9.
Ireland then?
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Des Little on August 23, 2010, 11:46:50 AM
Carew's penalty has just landed in my back garden
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 23, 2010, 02:43:02 PM
Didn't Barry sky a penalty at that end a few years ago?

I'd give it to Downing tbh, a few more goals will boost his confidence and he was decent at them at Boro I think.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: manic-road on August 26, 2010, 09:17:12 PM
Next penalty taker? Not Petrov after tonight.....Grrrrr
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Shrek on August 26, 2010, 10:45:52 PM
james collins for me.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: TheSandman on August 26, 2010, 10:50:20 PM
Didn't Barry sky a penalty at that end a few years ago?

I'd give it to Downing tbh, a few more goals will boost his confidence and he was decent at them at Boro I think.

Agree.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: D.boy on August 26, 2010, 11:12:40 PM
How come Heskey doesn't take pens. As a centre foreward you would think they would be first choice. I'd offer the next one to Ireland.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Guy M on August 26, 2010, 11:17:26 PM
Before tonight, I'm pretty sure I said Petrov.

What's strange is, as he stepped forward, to a chorus of "on no"s from VillaVA, I knew exactly where he was going to put it and that it would be saved. So I wasn't even surprised or really disappointed when it happened.

James Collins next please.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Des Little on August 26, 2010, 11:22:14 PM
For a collection of full time professional footballers, our penalties are a disgrace.  What in heaven's name do they do at Bodymoor in order to select the taker?  It's a joke.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: mozza on August 27, 2010, 12:32:50 AM
Haven't a clue forpemalty taker but the ballboy in Holte/Trinity corner is
more accurately than most of the first team ............he got the Rapid gk
full in the face as the guy was lying on the turf - biggest cheer of the night 
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: midnite on August 30, 2010, 09:31:17 AM
Where's savo milosevic when you need him?
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: UK Redsox on August 30, 2010, 12:34:31 PM
Haven't a clue forpemalty taker but the ballboy in Holte/Trinity corner is
more accurately than most of the first team ............he got the Rapid gk
full in the face as the guy was lying on the turf - biggest cheer of the night 

I wonder if he got in trouble for that. Th kid did seem to celebrate the hit


As for the penalty taker. Mine's another vote for Collins. I prefer the unsubtle "smack it one" approach
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Shrek on August 30, 2010, 01:59:32 PM
Albrighton anyone? Abit young just a thought!
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Captain Trips on August 30, 2010, 02:47:07 PM

but i would let carew or petrov

Oh dear
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Matt Collins on August 31, 2010, 07:11:13 AM
Ireland is possibly worth a shout. Downing has the technical attributes but I'm not sure he has the mental ones
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: ktvillan on August 31, 2010, 09:10:19 PM
I'd still back Carew if on the pitch.  He's only missed one hasnt he?  And the successful ones were clincally despatched.   Barry hit a similarly crap one at Newcastle a few seasons ago, it's going to happen from time to time when you hit them hard.   But I still prefer the power approach to these namby pamby placed ones that always the keeper a chance if he goes the right way.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: TheTimVilla on August 31, 2010, 09:18:47 PM
Carew missed a couple last season. There was a feature about it in one of the progs - Valencia, I think.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: ktvillan on August 31, 2010, 09:33:27 PM
Really? I dont recall them.  Who against?  Was there one against Reading perhaps?
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: Mark Carroll on August 31, 2010, 11:02:43 PM
He missed one against Portsmouth.
Title: Re: New penalty taker?
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 31, 2010, 11:20:48 PM
Carew's penalties at VP are really confident, less so away from home where he's missed against Pompey and Barcodes.

I would give them now to Downing personally.
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