Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 15, 2010, 08:47:07 AM
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Ive said before on this forum I dont know why every sunday morning I waste a £1 buying the rag known as the Sunday Mercury.
This week their front page suggests that an ex coke snorting world cup managerial flop and part time basketball player is interested in becoming our next manager.
The front page and two full pages inside is taken up with this rubbish.
http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-fc-news/2010/08/15/diego-maradona-in-sensational-bid-to-become-aston-villa-manager-66331-27064182/
Im off to read the column by that wet liberal George Tyndale now, followed by the letters page which is usually a diatribe from people I suspect are BNP activists telling us how terrible the country is these days because of the immigrants. Why do i bother ?
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“He loves the English countryside and your respect for privacy"
Is he thinking of a different England?
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Just about to point out the same thing, but rescued by the "their has been 1 reply do you want to review message". I can't believe we employ a Mod from VT to check out that on every post.
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Is Messi signing too??
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I would not want maradona as a manager it would be crazy to have him in the dugout.
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The only way I'd have that c*** at Villa Park is if he was going on a nationwide tour of repentance for being a cheating weasel and was offering to be pelted with rotten food and martial arts weaponry for an evening.
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Best laugh I've had in ages.
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He will walk out in 5 months. But it would be interesting with him. So which Argentine forwards can he sign for us :) we could do with 2 world class striker and a midfielder. He done a good job with Argentina in world cup but doesn't know how to defend.
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Mercury = bollocks.
But lets just for a moment assume that, having slipped into a parallel dimension, this story has some truth to it.
It would be a media circus. Like it would be with Sven, but even bigger. I don't want my club to be a media circus, I want it to be successful on the pitch.
As pointed out by curiousorange, he is an unrepentant cheat and I've still not forgiven him for 1986 - I know that holding bad feelings for so long is unhealthy but there you go. It's strange that I detest the other person complicit in that incident but for totally different reasons.
He doesn't speak a word of English, so would be at an instant disadvantage in expressing his ideas.
There isn't the lovefest for him here that he enjoys in his native country. As soon as this fact sinks in he'd be off, leaving us with the task of finding his replacement.
Having stated all of the above, the most important thing to remember is that he's never achieved anything of note as a club manager.
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I watched a docu on Maradona recentley on TV. He had so much hatred for England all the way through that programme...
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Mercury = bollocks.
But lets just for a moment assume that, having slipped into a parallel dimension, this story has some truth to it.
It would be a media circus. Like it would be with Sven, but even bigger. I don't want my club to be a media circus, I want it to be successful on the pitch.
As pointed out by curiousorange, he is an unrepentant cheat and I've still not forgiven him for 1986 - I know that holding bad feelings for so long is unhealthy but there you go. It's strange that I detest the other person complicit in that incident but for totally different reasons.
He doesn't speak a word of English, so would be at an instant disadvantage in expressing his ideas.
There isn't the lovefest for him here that he enjoys in his native country. As soon as this fact sinks in he'd be off, leaving us with the task of finding his replacement.
Having stated all of the above, the most important thing to remember is that he's never achieved anything of note as a club manager.
I know we have a tendency to view our club through rose-tinted specs and assume that nobody wishes us ill (apart from the obvious rivals) but if Maradona was Villa manager we'd be hated more than Money City, the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Man Yoo, Chelski, the Arse, Spuds and Newky Brown Ale combined, to the seventy-seventh power. Squared.
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About as much chance of happening as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has of becoming the next Villa manager if this extract from Diego’s Wikipedia is anything to go by...
Political views
In recent years, Maradona has shown sympathy to left-wing ideologies. He became friends with Cuban leader Fidel Castro while receiving treatment on the island. He also has a portrait of Fidel Castro tattooed on his left leg and one of Fidel's second in command, fellow Argentine Che Guevara on his right arm.[61] In his autobiography 'El Diego' he dedicated the book to several people and groups of people including Fidel Castro, he wrote "To Fidel Castro and, through him, all the Cuban people".[62]
Maradona is also a supporter of Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez. In 2005 he visited Venezuela with the specific aim of meeting Chávez, who received him in Miraflores. After this meeting Maradona claimed that he had come with the aim of meeting a "great man" ("un grande" in Spanish) but he had met instead a gigantic man ("un gigante" in Spanish, meaning he was more than great).
"I believe in Chávez, I am Chavista. Everything Fidel does, everything Chávez does, for me is the best."[63]
He has declared his opposition to what he identifies as imperialism, notably during the 2005 Summit of the Americas in Mar del Plata, Argentina. There he protested George W. Bush's presence in Argentina, wearing a T-shirt labeled "STOP BUSH" and referring to Bush as "human garbage".[64][65]
In August 2007, Maradona went further, making an appearance on Chávez's weekly television show and saying:"I hate everything that comes from the United States. I hate it with all my strength." [66]
In December 2007, Maradona presented a signed shirt with a message of support to the people of Iran: it is to be displayed in the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs' museum.[67]
Im sure the General would welcome him...
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Argentina legend Diego Maradona has informed Aston Villa he would be willing to take over the Villa Park hotseat.
Posted on August 15, 2010 at 6:21 AM comments (0)
Martin O’Neill resigned as boss last week, with Kevin McDonald leading them to a 3-0 opening-day victory over West Ham in the caretaker role.
Ajax boss Martin Jol and USA coach Bob Bradley have been linked with the West Midlands club - but Maradona believes he could be the man to lead them this season.
"I think Diego would be very open to the idea of coming to England and managing Aston Villa," his official European representative, Walter Soriano, told the Sunday Mercury.
"He is very attracted to English football and the way of life in your country and I know he would be very willing to move there.
"He loves the English countryside and your respect for privacy, so he would be very happy there, especially at a big club like Aston Villa."
Maradona left his post of Argentina coach in acrimonious circumstances last month, having impressed at the World Cup until La Albiceleste were smashed 4-0 by Germany in the quarter-finals.
Soriano added: "If the owner Randy Lerner wants to make him a serious offer, I am sure he would get a very positive response.
"Diego is currently talking with a number of clubs in Europe – including another one in England – about a management role and is looking at his options carefully."
Maradona has had a chequered football career. Regarded as one of the all-time great players alongside Pele, he suffered from alcohol and drug problems later - culminating in him being thrown out of the 1994 World Cup in the USA.
He struggled in a few coaching posts before emerging from a stomach-stapling operation in 2007 slimmer and healthier than he had been for years.
He then just managed to qualify for the World Cup in South Africa, before surprising many with his team's flamboyant and goal-happy performances at the finals.
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thanks, but fuck right off...
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Im off to read the column by that wet liberal George Tyndale now,
I've not read the Mercury for a couple of years now - does the Tyndale column still show him with a black bar across his eyes like he was in the frigging SAS?
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Shouldn't this be in the jokes thread?
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I'm sure the local purveyors of Colombian marching powder would be delighted!
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I'd prefer a life long villa fan as next manager.
Someone like Tom Hanks or Prince William. Maybe Davey Cameron, but i'm not sure about his negative tactics.
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It'd be interesting.
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Good chuckle that.
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maybe we could sart wearing those Argentinian shirts like Man Utd fans do,
and think we are making a big statement
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Mercury = bollocks.
He doesn't speak a word of English, so would be at an instant disadvantage in expressing his ideas.
That's not true, I distinctly remember him mouthing the words Fuck off to Hodge in 86.
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well in that case..
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Mercury = bollocks.
He doesn't speak a word of English, so would be at an instant disadvantage in expressing his ideas.
That's not true, I distinctly remember him mouthing the words Fuck off to Hodge in 86.
Hating Hodge is surely an international language?
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Im off to read the column by that wet liberal George Tyndale now,
I've not read the Mercury for a couple of years now - does the Tyndale column still show him with a black bar across his eyes like he was in the frigging SAS?
Just checked. These days they show him with a silhouetted shape of a face.
He is just about every nasty ism you can mention. He is a fascist, racist, misogonist, fatist, homophobic, little englander, inward looking, bigotted, reactionary little shit.
Probably a blue nose too.
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Mercury = bollocks.
He doesn't speak a word of English, so would be at an instant disadvantage in expressing his ideas.
That's not true, I distinctly remember him mouthing the words Fuck off to Hodge in 86.
Hating Hodge is surely an international language?
If hating Hodge qualifies you for the job, I think Ive just found another 50,000 candidates for the post.
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Im off to read the column by that wet liberal George Tyndale now,
I've not read the Mercury for a couple of years now - does the Tyndale column still show him with a black bar across his eyes like he was in the frigging SAS?
Just checked. These days they show him with a silhouetted shape of a face.
He is just about every nasty ism you can mention. He is a fascist, racist, misogonist, fatist, homophobic, little englander, inward looking, bigotted, reactionary little shit.
Probably a blue nose too.
I'm just bemused by the idea that somebody could be so incensed by his nonsense they would see him walking down the street and immediately attack him, so for his own protection he's as mysterious as a member of the KGB. Come on, we all know what Littlejohn, Gaunt and Jan Moir look like and as far as I know they're still up and about. In fact, they're positively loved by their fans and unread by their critics, so why should Tyndale be the same?
And just to keep on thread, Maradona's still a c***.
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I'm just bemused by the idea that somebody could be so incensed by his nonsense they would see him walking down the street and immediately attack him, so for his own protection he's as mysterious as a member of the KGB. Come on, we all know what Littlejohn, Gaunt and Jan Moir look like and as far as I know they're still up and about. In fact, they're positively loved by their fans and unread by their critics, so why should Tyndale be the same?
And just to keep on thread, Maradona's still a c***.
Probably because he doesn't exist, he's likely one of their reporters knocking out a few random diatribes one afternoon a week. The Mail's TV writer Molly Blake was the same - you never saw a photo of her because she was that nasty little everythingphobe Maureen Messent.
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I'm just bemused by the idea that somebody could be so incensed by his nonsense they would see him walking down the street and immediately attack him, so for his own protection he's as mysterious as a member of the KGB. Come on, we all know what Littlejohn, Gaunt and Jan Moir look like and as far as I know they're still up and about. In fact, they're positively loved by their fans and unread by their critics, so why should Tyndale be the same?
And just to keep on thread, Maradona's still a c***.
Probably because he doesn't exist, he's likely one of their reporters knocking out a few random diatribes one afternoon a week. The Mail's TV writer Molly Blake was the same - you never saw a photo of her because she was that nasty little everythingphobe Maureen Messent.
From what I remember, 'Tyndale' looked like Major Misunderstanding from Viz.
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If we got madonna i'm sure she would be more tactically astute
SHE wouldn't play Carlos at right back!
maradonna would probably play Downing ::)
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It would be a lot of fun.
The Coke dealers of Aston would be ecstatic, as would the girls at Funplace. We're not going to win the league, the publicity would be mental. Hell yes!
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Diego is one of my footballing heroes, but I wouldn't want him anywhere near our dugout.
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I'd rather have the material girl.
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This is about as credible as Eusebio or Gordon Banks throwing their hat into the ring.
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if he was to put his boots back on, he'd probably still be as fast and mobile as Barry
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Maradona's tactics before the World Cup of course being to play four centre-halves across the defence.
And holder of the opinion "why do I need my full-backs to attack? I have wingers to attack"
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This story has the same credibility as when he was going to be signed as a player for the shit across the city.
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It's a good headline but not as good as "Nazi Pope Steals Our Gold", or the story, pre-derby about Villa fans on the Holte wearing "Tracy Andrews wigs".
The story has now reached the national media, Colin "fucking" Murray has just mentioned it.
I buy the Mercury every Sunday during the football season because of the non-league coverage. When I go to the newsagents I hide it under a copy of "Beastiality Today" to save any embarrassment.
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From the same paper that brought you 'Maradona To Sign For Birmingham City' and 'Beckenbauer New Villa Boss'
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Wouldn't be a dull moment if he did.
Dread to think of the consequences
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I buy the Mercury every Sunday during the football season because of the non-league coverage. When I go to the newsagents I hide it under a copy of "Beastiality Today" to save any embarrassment.
This made me laugh out loud ! Tears in my eyes ! Very funny ! ;D
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Diego is one of my footballing heroes, but I wouldn't want him anywhere near our dugout.
Could you imagine it? Maradona grappling with the dementors behind the dugout after criticism of his 10 up front tactics.
Although if the quotes from his agent are to be believed I do like the fact he calls us a big club, not a selling club and makes no reference to our fans being fickle. Put him on the possibles list if he doesn't plan to re sign Zat Knight.
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Are we sure he didn't mean David Villa? As in "I would love to manage [David] Villa"? Of course in Argentinian it's pronounced "Beeja", so who knows.
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They had nearly a week to bring the inside story of Villa's dramatic week, but we get this. It's immediately laughed off by fans and the wider media. Everyone in the midlands already knew the Mercury was a desperate and comical rag, but their reputation has now deservedly gone far and wide.
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It's a good headline but not as good as "Nazi Pope Steals Our Gold", or the story, pre-derby about Villa fans on the Holte wearing "Tracy Andrews wigs".
The story has now reached the national media, ***Colin "fucking" Murray*** has just mentioned it.
I buy the Mercury every Sunday during the football season because of the non-league coverage. When I go to the newsagents I hide it under a copy of "Beastiality Today" to save any embarrassment.
I didn't realise that was his middle name, but it's very appropriate.
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Adam Aspinall, Sunday Mercury
I wonder why he write that a piece of comic material. Randy Lerner and The General won't appoint him. It is like a casino appointing Paul Merson to run the bar and casino.
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This story is running though. Monday's Italian Sports paper's headlines
L'agente di Maradona: The agent of Maradona
Vuole allenare l'Aston Villa He wants to coach Aston Villa
Corriere dello sport
Maradona vuole l'Aston Villa Maradona wants Aston Villa
L'agente: "Desidera l'Inghilterra" The agent "He desires England"
La Gazetta dello Sport
Even the serious paers are covering the story - gaining momentum?
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This story is running though. Monday's Italian Sports paper's headlines
L'agente di Maradona: The agent of Maradona
Vuole allenare l'Aston Villa He wants to coach Aston Villa
Corriere dello sport
Maradona vuole l'Aston Villa Maradona wants Aston Villa
L'agente: "Desidera l'Inghilterra" The agent "He desires England"
La Gazetta dello Sport
Even the serious paers are covering the story - gaining momentum?
Christ, I hope not.
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It can gain all the momentum it likes in the crap media. I doubt it will have any credence inside VP where it counts.
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Randy's laughing at that. He's a businessman, not a ringmaster.
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The good thing about it is that at least a non-Italian managed English club is getting some Italian coverage, and its the Villa.
Maradona would much prefer to manage Napoli ,where he is worshipped, but for his problems with the Italian tax authorities. Ranieri has found his true home with Roma and I can't imagine he'd want to leave although Ancelotti still wants to manage Roma one day.
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The good thing about it is that at least a non-Italian managed English club is getting some Italian coverage, and its the Villa.
Maradona would much prefer to manage Napoli ,where he is worshipped, but for his problems with the Italian tax authorities. Ranieri has found his true home with Roma and I can't imagine he'd want to leave although Ancelotti still wants to manage Roma one day.
The managers that never want to leave usually end up getting sacked, unfortunately.
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Randy's laughing at that. He's a businessman, not a ringmaster.
If he applies, I think Randy will just give him the phone number for that bunch of clowns in Small Heath. Not that they will have paid the phonebill, of course!
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No way whould i ever want him at Villa. Hand of F***ing god
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Just seen Big Ron give a proper big belly laugh when asked about the chances of Maradona rocking up at VP. He though why not give KMAc a go.
Wonder if Big Ron would make a decent D.O.F?
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There's no effing way Maradona will be anywhere near the manager's office, but it's more than useful for Villa to be linked with big names in the Italian press with Lerner in Milan. If it persuades Huntelaar or Flamini that we're a bigger side than they first thought, that will be scorchio.
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It's even made the news over here in Oz. I've had a couple of people in the local come up to me (I was wearing my swanky new AVFC training jacket) and ask me about it.
I think it would go tits up big style, but you got to admit it could be quite fun too.
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I think it would go tits up big style, but you got to admit it could be quite fun too.
To be honest I don't think it would be fun. Appointing an idiot like that would make us a laughing stock anyway, but with his profle we'd become a worldwide laughing stock!
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The good thing about it is that at least a non-Italian managed English club is getting some Italian coverage, and its the Villa.
I was about to post something similar, having just read the story on Tuttosport and the local sports dailies here. El Pibe has done us a favour as the story and vacancy appears to have gone global. Also calling us a 'big/great club' will do us no harm.
I think we should be thanking and showing a bit more respect to the coke toking, short arsed, fat, little fucker.
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I think we should be thanking and showing a bit more respect to the coke toking, short arsed, fat, little fucker.
Yep, you've got to hand it to him.
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I think we should be thanking and showing a bit more respect to the coke toking, short arsed, fat, little fucker.
Yep, you've got to hand it to him.
nailed it for me as well.
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Sorry to sound a bit ignorant here, but has he ever managed anyone apart from Argentina?
If so it'd be the equivalent of Shearer turning up to manage us. We need someone with experience and genuine, preferably sensible tactical know-how. To be brutally honest, and this absolutely kills me to say but I'd rather have Big Sam managing us.
The lesser of two fat-bastard evils.
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How is his behaviour over last 18 months ? Just like to know.
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No chance. He'd turn this place into a circus. He's got no idea tactically either. He got by with Argentina purely because he is who, he is. But fact is, they struggled in qualifying, and then came unstuck in the first real challenge against Germany in the finals by looking tactically clueless.
Far too unhinged to make a decent manager. More likely is, Maradona will end up face down dead, coked to his fucking eyeballs in a gutter somewhere in the next year. Which would be a shame, even for a cheating arse like him.
We may as well get Gazza to manage us.
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I want an exclusion zone set up around Villa Park and if Maradonna enters it, or is just milling about remotely near it, I want Villasubmariner to sink him.
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Too fiery and cant speak English.
There's enough reason.
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Im frankly surprised this story is still running. Just another example of them all picking up on one stupid quote from one stupid agent reproduced by one stupid journalist in one stupid local sunday rag.
It makes you think just how much garbage we are fed by the assorted outlets on all manner of things, be it either one persons unguarded comment or as is often the case a few choices words placed strategically to then allow it to gain legs and a momentum.
It was even covered on mondays Midlands Today. With our license fee being used to send one of their faceless sports correspondents down to Brindley Place to interview a non english speaking south american restaurant owner on the matter, complete with translation dubbed over.
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Maybe we should get Maradona in on a 12 month rolling contract, give him the funds to purchase his son in law, Sergio Aguero, on a 5 year contract. Then sack the fucker at Christmas!
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Im frankly surprised this story is still running...
I am more shocked that there are people who believe it is true!
I got 2 emails from friends saying "Congrats on Maradonna" that almost sent me running to the ol' google to make sure that this was NOT true.
The scary part is that these two friends A) believed this B) Thought it was a good thing!
(neither supports Villa)
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It would be ridiculous on a practical level of course, but, perhaps its the eternal optimist in me that thinks the chance to have the most gifted footballer ever (*my opinion), to be in any capacity at Villa park would be pretty awesome.
As mentioned though, would prefer someone with a tad more tactical nouse!
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This is just mischief making by his agent. Nothing to see here.
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He should try to manage a small club in La Liga B in Spain before going to a big club like us.
But it is strange to have Diego Maradona and Aston Villa in a discussion topic.
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But it is strange to have Diego Maradona and Aston Villa in a discussion topic.
Blame it on Steve Hodge.