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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: toplad4u on August 07, 2010, 12:46:35 PM
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I'm going for 3 - 1 to Villa
Line up
Friedel (AKA Tony Tiger)
Beye Clark Dunne Warnock
Albrighton Reo-coker Petrov Downing
Carew A Young
Subs: Guzan, Gabby, Ireland, Sidwell, Lichaj, Delfouneso, Heskey
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Ireland and Gabby on the bench? No, if that's the squad throw them in for Carew and Albrighton or Reo-Coker.
And the score's still 3-1 :).
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Freidel
Young
Clark
Dunne
Warnock
Young
Petrov
Ireland
Downing
Carew
Gabby
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Friedel
Young
Dunne
Collins
Warnock
Petrov
Reo-Coker
A.Young
Ireland
Downing
Messi
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I'm going to say 2-1 to the villa with gabby first goal and the second coming from ashley young.
friedel
l.young
dunne
cuellar
warnock
downing
petrov
ireland
a.young
gabby
carew
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Only Legion can start these threads. It's the only thing he is (mostly) lucky at.
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We got injured cb's? Lot of shouts for Clark.
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This is basically a pre-match thread isn't it? As such, I'll wait for Legion to start one up before commenting.
Oophs... too late!
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A tedious 2-0 victory for the Villa.
Freidel
L.Young
Warnock
Clark
Dunne
A.Young
Petrov
Ireland
Downing
Carew
Gabby
Not the team I want to see, but it's the team MON will start with.
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1-1 for me I'm afraid...
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1-1.
Downing.
Carlton Cole.
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I wish we can have 3 point in the open match.
I will go for
Aston Villa 1:0 West Ham
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2-0 win.
Gabby always starts the season well and I will go for Ireland to score on debut.
Also a lively 20 minute cameo from Keane and Flamini waving at the fans before the game (too much to hope for?)
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I would love it if O'Neill played this team...
Friedel
L.Young
Dunne
Cuellar
Warnock
Ireland
Reo-Coker
Petrov
A.Young
Carew
Agbonlahor
Now that's a team full of strength, power, speed, creativity, tenacity and energy.
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I would love it if O'Neill played this team...
Friedel
L.Young
Dunne
Cuellar
Warnock
Ireland
Reo-Coker
Petrov
A.Young
Carew
Agbonlahor
Now that's a team full of strength, power, speed, creativity, tenacity and energy.
My problem with that team is that Villa Park is a hugely wide pitch, and with the 4-3-1-2 system there you risk exposing the full backs to two-on-one situations with the opposition overlapping. I'd prefer Downing or even Albrighton in for Carew, as we only really need one forward in most games.
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---------------------------Friedel-------------------------------
L. Young---------Cuellar---------Dunne------------Warnock
------------------Reo Coker------Petrov----------------------
Albrighton----------------Ireland--------------------A. Young
-------------------------Agbonlahor----------------------------
If we're chasing Carew on for Petrov.
I am however fully expecting 4-4-2 with Collins in for Luke Young and Carew in for Reo-Coker and a 0-0 draw.
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I like the idea of Gabby coming off the bench, plus go with the hot hand in Carew to start. Other than I like that formation.
Put me down for a 2-0 win with Ireland (if he is part of the Milner deal) bagging on his debut.
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Brad
Cuellar
Dunne
Collins
Warnock
Albrighton
Petrov
Ireland
Downing
Young
Agbonlahor
2-0. Collins and Gabby
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what about r keane scorein the winner ... well u never know with mon
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We got injured cb's? Lot of shouts for Clark.
Shouldn't you be on holiday and not posting?
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1-1 for me I'm afraid...
Cheer up Charlie
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0-0 I reckon.
Friedel
Beye
Collins (if fit)
Dunne
Warnock
Young
Petrov
NRC
Downing
Carew
Gabby
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Friedel
Beye
Cuellar
Dunne
Warnock
Young
Petrov
NRC
Downing
Heskey
Agbonlahor
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0-0 for me. We haven't seemed all that incisive in pre-season, especially going forward.
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2-1 Villa
Gabby
Dunnie
Re. Ireland ? - Doesn't the Manager usually stsrt newcomers off on the bench - MON and habits are not easliy broken.
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Boo! Bring back legions pre - match thread.
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Boo! Bring back legions pre - match thread.
Now now, I think toplad4u has done a fine job on this one.
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2-2, carew and dunne for us, cole and barrera for them
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When the **** did we sign Ireland?
All a bit previous for me... all smacks of the Juninho clap trap.
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When the **** did we sign Ireland?
All a bit previous for me... all smacks of the Juninho clap trap.
Aye. Not till he's "in the shirt and on the pitch". We have been here before.
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as much as i can see us winning this match i have a very strong feeling that with defenders out and no new signings we will lose this match....i can see Wigan all over again...
still think we will have a great season thoiugh but with a new manager and new players West Ham will be fired up for this match.
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3-0
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Does anyone know when the cut off point for registering players for this game is? By what Mancini is saying we are likely to sell Milner (and presumably buy Ireland) on Thursday after the international nonsense. We could do with Ireland desperately as Petrov will be knackered from playing in Russia midweek.
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Gabby, Cuellar and Collins have all been carrying injuries, so not sure we'll start all 3 of them. I think the line up will be -
--------------------Friedel------------------------
---Young----Dunne-----Clark----Warnock---
---Albrighton---Petrov---NRC---Downing---
---------------------Young------------------------
---------------------Carew------------------------
Guzan, Agbonlahor, Heskey, Sidwell, Beye, Salifou, Cuellar
That's assuming Milner goes and no one comes in.
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Does anyone know when the cut off point for registering players for this game is? By what Mancini is saying we are likely to sell Milner (and presumably buy Ireland) on Thursday after the international nonsense. We could do with Ireland desperately as Petrov will be knackered from playing in Russia midweek.
I think it's normally at Noon on the Friday before that round of matches.
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I can see us taking a while to get into our stride and this being 1-1.
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Cheers VSM. Hopefully Nigel will have a good game against his old mob if Ireland doesn't sign / doesn't sign on time.
Ooh... just noticed the smilies... do they work? :P
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Yes they do. Better not tell anyone.
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I can see us taking a while to get into our stride and this being 1-1.
Same, but if we have Ireland by then I can see us really taking them to the cleaners. He has just the imagination and speed of thought to make their task of stopping us just too hard.
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Has Hitz been playing much for them in pre-season?
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Has Hitz been playing much for them in pre-season?
He has, and well. If he plays I look forward to the ovation.
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1-1
AV - Gabby, scrambled over from a yard out
WHU - "Der Hammer", 35 yard screamer
GK - "It's Greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat"
RB - Cuellar
CB - Dunne
CB - Collins (or Clark if James is still injured)
LB - Warnock
MF - Marky Mark
MF - Stan
MF - NRC
MF - Stewie
Playing just of the Centre Forward in a similar kind of role to that which Peter Beardsley used to do so well - Ash
CF - JC
Bench:- Brad Jr, Beye, Clark (or Lichaj), Sidders, Gabby, Ivanhoe, Fonz (or Ireland if he's signed by then)
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Has Hitz been playing much for them in pre-season?
He has, and well. If he plays I look forward to the ovation.
He'll get a standing ovation from me
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1-0. Albrighton 79.
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Villa 2 West Ham 1
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As much as i want us to win, i reckon it will be 0-0.
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I hear Dunne has hurt his knee in ROI camp and could be a doubt for Saturday.
With that in mind I think it will be 2-2.
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2-0
Keane
Ireland
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Isn't Cuellar out, with doubts over Dunne now who's going for a scan? So we could be looking at Young / Lichaj, Beye, Clark and Warnock. Plus I'm wondering whether Gabby is going to be able to start given his lack of minutes?
I've got a feeling we'll struggle to create chances and Cole etc will create problems for our sketchy looking defence.
I think with the likes of Ireland and Keane we would get better going forwards, but I can foresee a bit of a stop and start opening to the season.
2-1 to West Ham, with a late goal from us providing little consolation, although I can also see this as a 1-1 with a similar pattern
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I think we're going to lose 2-1 in stoppage time to a Hitzlsperger special. And there'll be lots of booing which MON will go on about endlessly to the press over the coming weeks.
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2-1 Villa win
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A howitzer from Hitz is written in the stars.
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2-0 Villa
Young
Carew
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Not going to guess at a team due to the few injury doubts and prospective new signings, but I think we'll still have enough to beat West Ham. I expect them to remember the Wigan debacle and be determined to avoid a reapeat, so a tight 1-0 win.
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Our indifferent pre-season whilst Hammers have apparently performed well might suggest an away win
for the opening day
Fingers crossed we will have Stephen Ireland in the squad who would surely be more of an impact
substitution than Sidwell
Der Hammer will get a decent reception from the home support .........I hope he has left his shooting boots
at home
It's a closely fought 1-1 with Carew getting a head to one of young Marc's pin point crosses
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If Ireland signs and Gabby recovers (along with, let's say, Dunne and Cuellar) I'm getting a really horrible 4-4-2 feeling:
Friedel
Beye Dunne Cuellar Warnock
Downing Ireland Petrov Young
Gabby Carew
Which of course negates the whole point of having ball-players as good as Ireland and Petrov as they'll never have space or options on the ball. Great. However, judging on Ash's pre-season positioning, and given the same fitness and personnel, I'm hoping for:
Friedel
Beye Dunne Cuellar Warnock
Ireland Petrov Young
Downing Gabby Albrighton
Ireland and Young may not be massive, but they don't half work hard, and if they work together they can hurry anyone off the ball.
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1-1 Same shit different season!
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1-0 85' Heskey
This will be his season
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I haven't paid a lot of attention to any of our pre-season games. A drab World Cup has left me feeling a little uninteresting in the beautiful game as a whole. I suspect with proper football returning this weekend that will all change and I'll be back into my usual weekend routine of watching it non stop, much to the annoyance of the missus (although between the WC, the cricket and F1 most weekends since May have been largely sport orientated anyway).
That said we've done well pre season, winning most games except I think a draw at Southend and a defeat against Burton Albion when we fielded mostly kids. We've got a few new signings in there which I'm looking forwards to. Der Hammer being one of course (with a nickname like that why the fuck did we not try to sign him years ago?), aswell as Barrera and this NZ right back Reid.
I'm not sure about making predictions, although the smart money's on a draw. We always seem to draw with you lot now. I'm struggling to remember the last time it wasn't a draw.
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When you beat us last year, at your place. I'm sure you loved it, of course, but forgive me for saying it was one of my most depressing nights of the season.
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I can remember another recent occasion, Sendo. Don't remind me: Harewood! Harewood! Harewood! Hat-trick!!!!
It all depends on who's fit at the back for us. If Dunne's okay (or Cuellar makes it) to play alongside Clark (I have no worries about putting Clark in against anyone, as long as he's with one of our senior CBs) I can see us edging it. But if Beye starts at CB I'll go for Villa 0 WH 8. He's a dreadful footballer.
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I'm going to start the season with a confidence I don't necessarily feel.
Villa 3 - 1 West Ham.
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1-1.
Good early start from us, with us all over them. Gabby to open the scoring before they nab an equaliser midway through the second half.
I'll go for:
Friedel
Cuellar - Collins - Dunne - Warnock
Young - Ireland - Petrov - Downing
Carew - Agbonlahor
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Positive result is what we need and I feel lucky..............2-1 to us will set us up nicely for the great season we are going to have.
Cant get more positive than that :)
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I brought my ticket today so we have to win, I won't accept anything less as I hate west spam also for personal reasons so if we don't win I may well cry!
3-0 Ireland, Agbonlahor & Carew
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I hope MON heeds a lesson from the opening match of last season, and sticks with the players who have shown good form in pre-season (eg last summer NRC and Sidwell were in good form as a central midfield partnership but he dumped them for Delph and Petrov).
Bearing in mind injury concerns and assuming Ireland's in and Milner's out, I'd go with:
Friedel
L Young Dunne Clark Warnock
NRC Petrov
Albrighton Ireland A Young
Carew
Subs: Guzan, Lichaj, Cuellar, Downing, Gabby, Delfouneso, Sidwell
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If the Milner/Ireland deal goes through on Thursday as expected, I'd say that might be too soon for him to play, so he'd likely start on the bench.
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I have no particular reason for the prediction but I think it will be a draw.
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Lets be really positive and state that Wet Spam are really gash - they nearly went down last year and now they have a manager that actually took a team down (nightmares of Billy McNeill following on from Graham Turner for the oldies??)
I fancy WHU to have another poor season with us beating them quite comfortably 3-0
:'(
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When you beat us last year, at your place. I'm sure you loved it, of course, but forgive me for saying it was one of my most depressing nights of the season.
How short is my memory. I was there aswell.
Zaaavooooonnnn!
FWIW I think we'll be okay this season. We haven't signed any world beaters but the signings we have made look like the team will have more balance and a bit of creativity in the middle. Lower mid table obscurity will do me after last season.
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Hang on, suddenly I'm feeling more confident. Manager gone, team not knowing what's coming next, general feeling in the dressing room that anyone could be off? I sniff an away win here chaps!
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Yup, I'd very surprised if we got anything out of this one, what a way to start the fecking season.
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Anyone know what tactics Kevin has been using with the reserves? If it's 4-3-3 we may still do ok in this one.
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I still think we'll win. The team selection will be interesting now. If Heskey is nowhere to be seen it will be real blast at MON. I also expect to see Luke Young at RB now. Maybe he'll stay.
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0-2
Low morale, no time for improved tactics.
The Villa definitely need to be supported now.
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I'll think we'll win. Will be a lot of players wanting to prove themselves and I think we'll be very attacking.
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It would be interesting to see the line up on Saturday. I wonder what team would Kevin pick :)
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What system does he normally play? Least Albighton may start.
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I'll think we'll win. Will be a lot of players wanting to prove themselves and I think we'll be very attacking.
This
3-2 Villa
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Still heavily dependent on defensive options for me. I think we'll all be watching Ashley's performance and probably reading far too much into it whatever happens.
Still going for a West Ham win. Everything has an air of doom about it with the villa at the moment. I can't think of the last bit of good news / positive signs that we had.
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I'm away for this one. Strange thing is I didn't feel ready for the new season and wasn't too gutted. Maybe that says it all about how I felt about the way things were & MON. Now I am gutted and wish I could be there.
Villa win.
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Good!! Despite todays news be positive. Up the villa! Hitzlsperger will score but we will win 3-1!
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I'll think we'll win. Will be a lot of players wanting to prove themselves and I think we'll be very attacking.
It would be interesting to see the line up on Saturday. I wonder what team would Kevin pick :)
I suppose it depends on who is still here.
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I hope MON heeds a lesson from the opening match of last season, and sticks with the players who have shown good form in pre-season (eg last summer NRC and Sidwell were in good form as a central midfield partnership but he dumped them for Delph and Petrov).
If only you had known.....
Bearing in mind injury concerns and assuming Ireland's in and Milner's out, I'd go with:
Friedel
L Young Dunne Clark Warnock
NRC Petrov
Albrighton Ireland A Young
Carew
Subs: Guzan, Lichaj, Cuellar, Downing, Gabby, Delfouneso, Sidwell
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1-1 draw and a steady start to the season
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I like that team. Are we still expecting Stoivan Hoyreland do'h?
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Strange to see Chris Smith so downbeat.
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Strange to see Chris Smith so downbeat.
Difficult to find any positives at the moment. Manager gone, players leaving, no money, little time to find a replacement, all night wasted on the Internet...
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Strange to see Chris Smith so downbeat.
Difficult to find any positives at the moment. Manager gone, players leaving, no money, little time to find a replacement, all night wasted on the Internet...
If the game is not going well on Saturday, you can bet on unpleasantness and possibly altercations with fisticuffs.
Depressing.
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To be fair, there were a lot of draws predicted pre-MoNGone. And against West Ham, that would mean the game not going well.
So, if it's not going well with McAndrew in charge, you can put it down to him finding his feet rather than a manager who HAS his feet but just doesn't quite know what to do with them.
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So, if it's not going well with McAndrew in charge, you can put it down to him finding his feet rather than a manager who HAS his feet but just doesn't quite know what to do with them.
We found our new manager already?
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To be fair, there were a lot of draws predicted pre-MoNGone. And against West Ham, that would mean the game not going well.
So, if it's not going well with McAndrew in charge, you can put it down to him finding his feet rather than a manager who HAS his feet but just doesn't quite know what to do with them.
You're missing the point. There are a lot of people unhappy that MON has gone, there are others that will be delighted. During a game as emotions rise and those views are expressed forcibly there is the potential for it to kick off. Nothing to do with Kevin McDonald who I'm sure everyone will wish the best.
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To be fair, there were a lot of draws predicted pre-MoNGone. And against West Ham, that would mean the game not going well.
So, if it's not going well with McAndrew in charge, you can put it down to him finding his feet rather than a manager who HAS his feet but just doesn't quite know what to do with them.
Nell's the new manager ? Hubba hubba
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I'm not looking forward to this now one little bit now. Think we may get off to the same 'flier' as we did this time last year.
I'm normally very positive about the Villa but I think things will get a lot worse before they get better which will only heap the pressure on to RAL. As Chris said, I'd expect the general reaction of the demise of MON (both pro and anti) to cause a bit of a tinderbox atmosphere amongst some supporters if we don't start well.
And the thought of Tumnus and the Dwarf lauding it at Villa Park would just top things off nicely - arseholes.
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I am looking forward to this game even more now!
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1-2 West Ham I fear with all this instability.
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I'm still confident - that first XI hasn't got weaker overnight just because the manager has left, and the players will have even more incentive to play for their places.
A dull but efficient 2-0 win for me.
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I'm still confident - that first XI hasn't got weaker overnight...
It will have if Milner goes.
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I'm still confident - that first XI hasn't got weaker overnight...
It will have if Milner goes.
True, but that was on the cards regardless.
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Still think we can win this 2-1.
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I'm more confident with McAndrew in charge than I was with O'Neill.. not sure why. A 2 - 1 win, Hitz for them. Young & Albrighton for us.
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I'm more confident with McAndrew in charge than I was with O'Neill.. not sure why. A 2 - 1 win, Hitz for them. Young & Albrighton for us.
OK, but how do you feel about MacDonald being in charge?
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-------------------Brad Sr---------------------
---Young---Dunne---Clark---Warnock---
---Albrighton---NRC---Petrov---Young---
-------------Agbonlahor-----Carew---------
Guzan, Beye, Cuellar, Sidwell, Downing, Fonz, Heskey
Aston Villa 2-1 West Ham Utd
Agbonlahor 32
Downing 83
Hitzlsperger 90
The new manager to be paraded around the pitch before kick off.
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To be fair, there were a lot of draws predicted pre-MoNGone. And against West Ham, that would mean the game not going well.
So, if it's not going well with McAndrew in charge, you can put it down to him finding his feet rather than a manager who HAS his feet but just doesn't quite know what to do with them.
You're missing the point. There are a lot of people unhappy that MON has gone, there are others that will be delighted. During a game as emotions rise and those views are expressed forcibly there is the potential for it to kick off. Nothing to do with Kevin McDonald who I'm sure everyone will wish the best.
I think you're right.
Saw a fair bit of tension in the UT (well, we are a bit edgy up there, liable to kick off etc etc) towards the end of the season between those sick of the manager and those not.
I'm imaging that at some point, MON's name is going to get chanted, and the reply will be One Randy Lerner, and that is going to cause tension.
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Thank god I'm out of the country as I fear the worst for this game.
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I'm more confident with McAndrew in charge than I was with O'Neill.. not sure why. A 2 - 1 win, Hitz for them. Young & Albrighton for us.
OK, but how do you feel about MacDonald being in charge?
I feel like reading McAndrew above got into my head, I used it as a basis of "Does the Mac have an a.. or not?" As I'm forgetful on stuff like that. Then I copied the formers mistake. Ah well.
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I think we're going to lose 2-1 in stoppage time to a Hitzlsperger special. And there'll be lots of booing which MON will go on about endlessly to the press over the coming weeks.
I've changed my mind (it's a woman's prerogative don't you know) and in the light of yesterday's events I now think we'll win as the players will be well up for it and will want to prove a point.
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Given all the recent news I am really looking forward to this game. This is not a knock at MON more the intriguing thought that with a new man at the helm I wonder what sort of formation, tactics and players we will see.
With MON as manager we could probably all predict the on pitch 11 and the tactics, with McDonald in charge who knows? 442, 433, 4231, 4213? Anything is possible. Who will start? NRC, Sidwell, Albrighton, Downing, Cuellar, Young, Collins maybe even the Fonz?
A lot of things are up in the air which makes this first game all the more interesting.
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Given all the recent news I am really looking forward to this game. This is not a knock at MON more the intriguing thought that with a new man at the helm I wonder what sort of formation, tactics and players we will see.
With MON as manager we could probably all predict the on pitch 11 and the tactics, with McDonald in charge who knows? 442, 433, 4231, 4213? Anything is possible. Who will start? NRC, Sidwell, Albrighton, Downing, Cuellar, Young, Collins maybe even the Fonz?
A lot of things are up in the air which makes this first game all the more interesting.
Absolutely, not least because MacDonald's worked with the young players in the reserves and knows them better than most. Especially if we do actually sign Ireland by the weekend, I'd like to see Albrighton given a chance, with Downing on the other wing (whichever it is at whatever point in the game), Gabby, or Carew if Gabby's not fit, up front on his own supported by Young and Ireland from midfield, with Petrov sitting. Those two attacking midfielders might be lightweight, but they both work very hard and cover ground quickly in the centre of midfield.
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Prior to MON's walk out I'd gone with a 1-1 stalemate-
I'm really up for this match now, not just because it's opening day and I'm guesting 4 friends
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Hopefully the events of the last couple of days and whatever happens before saturday will
galvanise the support and players to get a positive performance and result-
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Prior to MON's walk out I'd gone with a 1-1 stalemate-
I'm really up for this match now, not just because it's opening day and I'm guesting 4 friends
from Dublin -
Hopefully the events of the last couple of days and whatever happens before saturday will
galvanise the support and players to get a positive performance and result-
Does this new optimism mean you’re coming to Vienna?!
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Question (especially for those who have witnessed reserve matches):
What sort of game strategies does MacDonald employ? Does he have his own favourites amongst those that MON forgot? Can we expect to see exciting attacking football or will he be more conservative and just 'steady the ship' as much as he can? Does he use substitutions when things go pear-shaped? Who will be his assistant on game day?
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The only change to the MoN-type team that I expect to see on Saturday is Marc starting. No one will have seen more of him than MacDonald.
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The referee for the match is Mike Dean (Wirral)
Last season, he oversaw 4 Villa games and 2 West Ham matches. Of these 6, 3 were draws with 2 away wins.
He will be assisted by Halliday and Flynn, with D'Urso 4th official.
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Kevin Mac plays a fairly attacking game, uses subs and is tactically astute.
Fans of any kind of tactics are in for a treat as we haven't really had any worth mentioning under MON.
But he's not gung-ho and it wont be a massive departure to how we've been playing.
That said, this isnt reserve football so who knows how he sees our first team playing.
I'm particularly looking forward to players moving into space to receive the ball though and perhaps doing the same for throw ins.
If Ireland is settled in by then I think we'll play thusly:
---------------------------Friedel
Young-----------Cuellar---------Dunne----------Warnock
-------------------Petrov---------Reo Coker
----------------------------Ireland
-----------Agbonlahor-------------------------Young
----------------------------Carew
Guzan, Clark, Beye, Downing, Albrighton, Heskey, Delfouneso
That's how I'd play anyway.
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Bumped into a few of the local West Ham season ticket holders and they generally are not looking forward to this match and would be very happy with a draw.
Looking forward to the match and seeing the old ground again.
UTV
The Doc
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Kevin Mac plays a fairly attacking game, uses subs and is tactically astute.
Fans of any kind of tactics are in for a treat as we haven't really had any worth mentioning under MON.
But he's not gung-ho and it wont be a massive departure to how we've been playing.
That said, this isnt reserve football so who knows how he sees our first team playing.
I'm particularly looking forward to players moving into space to receive the ball though and perhaps doing the same for throw ins.
If Ireland is settled in by then I think we'll play thusly:
---------------------------Friedel
Young-----------Cuellar---------Dunne----------Warnock
-------------------Petrov---------Reo Coker
----------------------------Ireland
-----------Agbonlahor-------------------------Young
----------------------------Carew
Guzan, Clark, Beye, Downing, Albrighton, Heskey, Delfouneso
That's how I'd play anyway.
You never know, we might even see a goal scored with some cunning, revolutionary passing through the middle of the park. Certainly some pass and move would be a fantastic start to the new era and as Maz says, moving for throw ins would be just the icing on the top of the cake. That plus a decent corner and free kick...
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Oooooh pass and move, yes please!
They kept playing THAT Gabby goal against Bolton on SSN when MON walked, any kind of movement along those lines would be lovely to see again.
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Kevin Mac plays a fairly attacking game, uses subs and is tactically astute.
Fans of any kind of tactics are in for a treat as we haven't really had any worth mentioning under MON.
But he's not gung-ho and it wont be a massive departure to how we've been playing.
That said, this isnt reserve football so who knows how he sees our first team playing.
I'm particularly looking forward to players moving into space to receive the ball though and perhaps doing the same for throw ins.
If Ireland is settled in by then I think we'll play thusly:
---------------------------Friedel
Young-----------Cuellar---------Dunne----------Warnock
-------------------Petrov---------Reo Coker
----------------------------Ireland
-----------Agbonlahor-------------------------Young
----------------------------Carew
Guzan, Clark, Beye, Downing, Albrighton, Heskey, Delfouneso
That's how I'd play anyway.
I probably would too , and not the MON bring Heskey on for Carew 77th minite... If Carew needs to come off, put on Albrighton with GAbby up front ...
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MacDonald has to play something very different doesn't he? Otherwise it'll look like he's sticking the finger up to Randy and saying that he agrees with MON's selections.
Cheers, Maz. Looks a cracking line up. 4-2-3-1 being very flexible and very exciting. Hopefully the lads have had a few run-outs with the Kevin Mac to learn what this "pass" and "move" means. My guess is that many have forgotten!
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MacDonald has to play something very different doesn't he? Otherwise it'll look like he's sticking the finger up to Randy and saying that he agrees with MON's selections.
He has to play the best team available, it's no time for silly experiments to pander to chairman or fans. Too many changes and we lose and he makes himself look a complete arse. As reserve team coach he more or less has the team dictated to him depending on who is available for each game, this is new to him.
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I'm waiting to see if Ashley Young will be playing.
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I'm waiting to see if Ashley Young will be playing.
Have to admit, Steve, I have worries in that direction myself.
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I'm waiting to see if Ashley Young will be playing.
Have to admit, Steve, I have worries in that direction myself.
Why? I've just read somewhere that the General has commented that neither Ashley or Big Brad will be leaving the club.
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Of course Young will be playing.
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I'm waiting to see if Ashley Young will be playing.
Have to admit, Steve, I have worries in that direction myself.
Why? I've just read somewhere that the General has commented that neither Ashley or Big Brad will be leaving the club.
Randy said Milner wouldn't be leaving a few weeks ago.
I don't think they'd be stupid enough to sell him now but I'd be amazed if the thought hadn't crossed their minds as they look to bring down the wage bill with their inability to do deals for any of the others meaning they start to cast the net wider.
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MacDonald has to play something very different doesn't he? Otherwise it'll look like he's sticking the finger up to Randy and saying that he agrees with MON's selections.
He has to play the best team available, it's no time for silly experiments to pander to chairman or fans. Too many changes and we lose and he makes himself look a complete arse. As reserve team coach he more or less has the team dictated to him depending on who is available for each game, this is new to him.
Dictated to him by whom exactly?
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MacDonald has to play something very different doesn't he? Otherwise it'll look like he's sticking the finger up to Randy and saying that he agrees with MON's selections.
He has to play the best team available, it's no time for silly experiments to pander to chairman or fans. Too many changes and we lose and he makes himself look a complete arse. As reserve team coach he more or less has the team dictated to him depending on who is available for each game, this is new to him.
Dictated to him by whom exactly?
If the first team manager needs a player for the weekend then he's not going to let him play for the reserves or if he's got a player coming back from injury he's going to tell him he needs to play him so it is very much at the discretion of the manager . Similarly with the younger players, if they're needed in their age group teams then they're not going to be allowed to play.
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I'm waiting to see if Ashley Young will be playing.
Have to admit, Steve, I have worries in that direction myself.
Why? I've just read somewhere that the General has commented that neither Ashley or Big Brad will be leaving the club.
Randy said Milner wouldn't be leaving a few weeks ago.
I don't think they'd be stupid enough to sell him now but I'd be amazed if the thought hadn't crossed their minds as they look to bring down the wage bill with their inability to do deals for any of the others meaning they start to cast the net wider.
As you well know and often point out when the chickens start flapping, the transfer window will only hot up in the last week of August, so the inability to do deals is hardly the correct term to describe the current situation. I expect a few will leave.
As for Ashley, it would be a massive PR disaster to lose him now, something I'm sure the club are well aware of. Ashley has put his new contract talks on hold until the new manager is appointed which is fair enough but I think it's safe to say he'll be playing for us certainly up until January, hopefully for a lot longer.
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Kevin Mac plays a fairly attacking game, uses subs and is tactically astute.
Fans of any kind of tactics are in for a treat as we haven't really had any worth mentioning under MON.
But he's not gung-ho and it wont be a massive departure to how we've been playing.
That said, this isnt reserve football so who knows how he sees our first team playing.
I'm particularly looking forward to players moving into space to receive the ball though and perhaps doing the same for throw ins.
If Ireland is settled in by then I think we'll play thusly:
---------------------------Friedel
Young-----------Cuellar---------Dunne----------Warnock
-------------------Petrov---------Reo Coker
----------------------------Ireland
-----------Agbonlahor-------------------------Young
----------------------------Carew
Guzan, Clark, Beye, Downing, Albrighton, Heskey, Delfouneso
That's how I'd play anyway.
I agree. If Gabby isn't fit though, would you play Albrighton or Downing? I think I would probabyl stick with Downing, but tempting to go for Marc.
If Ireland isn't in yet, I'd put Downing in his position.
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Arrrrrghhhhhh! My eyes.
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MacDonald has to play something very different doesn't he? Otherwise it'll look like he's sticking the finger up to Randy and saying that he agrees with MON's selections.
He has to play the best team available, it's no time for silly experiments to pander to chairman or fans. Too many changes and we lose and he makes himself look a complete arse. As reserve team coach he more or less has the team dictated to him depending on who is available for each game, this is new to him.
Dictated to him by whom exactly?
If the first team manager needs a player for the weekend then he's not going to let him play for the reserves or if he's got a player coming back from injury he's going to tell him he needs to play him so it is very much at the discretion of the manager . Similarly with the younger players, if they're needed in their age group teams then they're not going to be allowed to play.
Sorry, Chris. I read your post as meaning that as our caretaker manager, he'd be having the teamsheet dictated to him. I see your point now.
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What just happened? I remember starting to read Matt Collin's post and then I woke up with a nosebleed and I can't see.
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It will be very interesting to see the team and formation on Saturday, and guess at how it would have differed had MON still been here. It will also be fascinating to see the body language with the players. How motivated they are. We shit the bed last time out, and with a change of manager imminent, one would hope that some players, if picked will be desperate to make an impression.
I expect a win against West Ham at the best of times, and this is no different.
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MacDonald has to play something very different doesn't he? Otherwise it'll look like he's sticking the finger up to Randy and saying that he agrees with MON's selections.
Cheers, Maz. Looks a cracking line up. 4-2-3-1 being very flexible and very exciting. Hopefully the lads have had a few run-outs with the Kevin Mac to learn what this "pass" and "move" means. My guess is that many have forgotten!
I wouldnt have thought so at all. It wasnt team selection that Randy and MON disagreed on, it was the way forward financially.
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I'm looking forward to being in the Holte more now than with MoN in charge. MacDonald will instill confidence, movement and proper footballing instinct into them.
Normally, I hate the whole pre-kick off huddle thing. But I think Dunney should get the team together on the pitch - the atmosphere will be electric and we could really get some momentum into the game, and the season.
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MacDonald will instill confidence, movement and proper footballing instinct into them.
Given that half of them are away on international duty he's going to have a busy Friday if he's got to do all that.
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It would be difficult for him as some first team players might not be used to Kevin McDonald's style for reserve football. He can't change the system too much in one training section with all those internationals players.
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It would be difficult for him as some first team players might not be used to Kevin McDonald's style for reserve football. He can't change the system too much in one training section with all those internationals players.
I imagine a change of formation would be a decent short-cut to improving the style.
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It would be difficult for him as some first team players might not be used to Kevin McDonald's style for reserve football. He can't change the system too much in one training section with all those internationals players.
I imagine a change of formation would be a decent short-cut to improving the style.
To be fair we have done that through pre-season so I'd imagine the players are already geared up for it.
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It would be difficult for him as some first team players might not be used to Kevin McDonald's style for reserve football. He can't change the system too much in one training section with all those internationals players.
I imagine a change of formation would be a decent short-cut to improving the style.
To be fair we have done that through pre-season so I'd imagine the players are already geared up for it.
Exactly, and Ireland's used to the 4-3-3 even if he doesn't know his potential new colleagues yet.
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MacDonald will instill confidence, movement and proper footballing instinct into them.
Given that half of them are away on international duty he's going to have a busy Friday if he's got to do all that.
I'd back him to do it in a 10 minute team talk, so anything above that will be fine.
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I reckon that we could just sneak a win in this one, but it will be close. I would play a 4-2-3-1 system, as i remember we got a bit overrun in the middle of the park last season against West Ham, even though they were in the process of parking a bus. With a new manager and the first game of the season I can see them being more adventurous as they will be out to impress, so we need to be careful.
------------Friedel-------------
Young.L---Dunne--Clark--Warnock
-----------NRC-----Petrov-----------
Downing------Ireland--------Young.A
-----------------Gabby-------------
Replace Clark with Cuellar/Collins if either of them are fit. If Ireland has not arrived/is not fit then put Albrighton on right and move Downing inside and if Gabby is not fit stick big JC up top.
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There was talk of Dunne being injured, anyone got any updates on him, Collins or Carlos?
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I'm just looking forward to seeing a right back at right back...
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There was talk of Dunne being injured, anyone got any updates on him, Collins or Carlos?
Dunne's playing for Ireland tonight.
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Reckon the boost in morale for the players should be enough to see us through. 2-0
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MacDonald has to play something very different doesn't he? Otherwise it'll look like he's sticking the finger up to Randy and saying that he agrees with MON's selections.
Cheers, Maz. Looks a cracking line up. 4-2-3-1 being very flexible and very exciting. Hopefully the lads have had a few run-outs with the Kevin Mac to learn what this "pass" and "move" means. My guess is that many have forgotten!
I wouldnt have thought so at all. It wasnt team selection that Randy and MON disagreed on, it was the way forward financially.
Yes, the disagreement was about finances but finances based on non-used playing assets.
Randy wanted them gone if they weren't going to be used.
Given that it's MacDonald who has seen the benefit of MON's madness, I'd suggest that he'll have a far more level headed view of who really can and can't do a job. And I just can't imagine that he'll using players in the very same way as MON.
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Oh....4-0 to the Villa.
We're gonna tear Wrist Ham a new one.
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Strange as we all know. When a manager leaves most players move up a gear. So i think we will get a very adventures game on sat .............. Will we have players playing there actual positions and stuff like that ???????????????
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There's a rumour Carew is injured, which presumably means Ivanhoe up front?
I have a feeling Ireland won't be here in time, so would play Albrighton, Downing, Young behind Heskey in one way shape or form
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Please let Ireland sign in time.
We'll know if Davies is staying or not won't we? If Clarke plays he's gone...
I'd go something like -
Friedel
Young - Davies - Dunne - Warnock
Albrighton - Petrov - NRC - Downing
Young
Gabby
Hopefully Ireland and Carew on the bench to change it around.
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Reckon the boost in morale for the players should be enough to see us through. 2-0
Boost in morale?? You mean for the players who arent good enough to start??
Players will be playing for their futures now, which could be a good thing, but having read that Collins and Cuellar are both out I'm a bit worried.
Also with Grant at the helm at West Ham, I've a feeling they could be a decent outfit this year, a few unknown signings in the mix too.
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Cuellar and Collins are out.
Davies and Gabby might be available.
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Reckon the boost in morale for the players should be enough to see us through. 2-0
Boost in morale?? You mean for the players who arent good enough to start??
Players will be playing for their futures now, which could be a good thing, but having read that Collins and Cuellar are both out I'm a bit worried.
Also with Grant at the helm at West Ham, I've a feeling they could be a decent outfit this year, a few unknown signings in the mix too.
my understanding is even the players he picked didn't like him much so the general improvement in the dressing room atmosphere, and "new boss syndrome" should ensure we have enough to beat west ham
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see the other thread, but hitzelsperger is a doubt for saturday now.
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Reckon the boost in morale for the players should be enough to see us through. 2-0
Boost in morale?? You mean for the players who arent good enough to start??
Players will be playing for their futures now, which could be a good thing, but having read that Collins and Cuellar are both out I'm a bit worried.
Also with Grant at the helm at West Ham, I've a feeling they could be a decent outfit this year, a few unknown signings in the mix too.
my understanding is even the players he picked didn't like him much so the general improvement in the dressing room atmosphere, and "new boss syndrome" should ensure we have enough to beat west ham
That's not what Martin Laursen said but I'm sure your 'understanding' (i.e. you've just made it up) is far more reliable.
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my understanding is even the players he picked didn't like him much so the general improvement in the dressing room atmosphere, and "new boss syndrome" should ensure we have enough to beat west ham
I would confirm this.
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oh dry yer
Reckon the boost in morale for the players should be enough to see us through. 2-0
Boost in morale?? You mean for the players who arent good enough to start??
Players will be playing for their futures now, which could be a good thing, but having read that Collins and Cuellar are both out I'm a bit worried.
Also with Grant at the helm at West Ham, I've a feeling they could be a decent outfit this year, a few unknown signings in the mix too.
my understanding is even the players he picked didn't like him much so the general improvement in the dressing room atmosphere, and "new boss syndrome" should ensure we have enough to beat west ham
That's not what Martin Laursen said but I'm sure your 'understanding' (i.e. you've just made it up) is far more reliable.
oh dry yer eyes chris. Its hardly my fault the guy you continuously said you trusted turned out to have the morale backbone of a common Hodge. Your total wrongness in judging a manager's character is a constant source of amazement and pity. Another shrine to go in the loft next to the dust covered DOL one and the slightly mouldy John Gregory one. I'm sure you'll bounce back :0)
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oh dry yerReckon the boost in morale for the players should be enough to see us through. 2-0
Boost in morale?? You mean for the players who arent good enough to start??
Players will be playing for their futures now, which could be a good thing, but having read that Collins and Cuellar are both out I'm a bit worried.
Also with Grant at the helm at West Ham, I've a feeling they could be a decent outfit this year, a few unknown signings in the mix too.
my understanding is even the players he picked didn't like him much so the general improvement in the dressing room atmosphere, and "new boss syndrome" should ensure we have enough to beat west ham
That's not what Martin Laursen said but I'm sure your 'understanding' (i.e. you've just made it up) is far more reliable.
oh dry yer eyes chris. Its hardly my fault the guy you continuously said you trusted turned out to have the morale backbone of a common Hodge. Your total wrongness in judging a manager's character is a constant source of amazement and pity. Another shrine to go in the loft next to the dust covered DOL one and the slightly mouldy John Gregory one. I'm sure you'll bounce back :0)
I knew when I posted that your reply would be petty and childish in the style that only you think is funny and you didn't let me down. You used the term "I understand" to imply that you have some inside information when the relaity is you've just made it up.
Laursen said on Monday that some players got on with him and others didn't. I'll take that over your bullshit any day of the week.
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I find it hard to believe that any of the regular 10/11 starters from last season had a problem with MON.
MON made them all better players, bar Downing who he pursued with and played them all regularly.
But anyway, that discussion doesnt belong on a pre match thread.
I would predict a team of:
Friedel
L.Young Dunne Davies Warnock
Reo-Coker Petrov
A.Young Ireland Downing
Agbonlahor
If Ireland hasnt signed then perhaps Albrighton in and Young/Downing playing off Gabby. Or Carew in and Gabby playing out wide with Young off Carew.
Either way, the likes of L.Young, NRC and Davies will be playing for their futures (and the reportedly massive contracts they are on).
Extra bit of spice for NRC against West Ham.
A.Young should be buoyant from his England performance and no doubt Gabby + Downing will want to get back in the fold.
All these together could give us a good performance, plus Gabby usually starts the season on fire.
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So, just to add extra spice to this game (I'm referring to the inevitable tension there is going to be behind those who back the former manager and those who back the chairman), we now have Collins and Cuellar definitely out, meaning that we'll almost certainly see Luke Young at right back (cue lots of cheers and probably more tension) and Curtis "Noboby Loves Me" Davies given his chance at centre back.
It's been a stressful week, we all know, but fucking hell, how much more exciting is this fixture looking now than it was a week ago (even if for the wrong reasons)?
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Just bought my Ticket for Saturday after failing to renew my Season Tickets and having no intention of going previously! 1-0 to the Chairman I think?
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oh dry yer eyes chris. Its hardly my fault the guy you continuously said you trusted turned out to have the morale backbone of a common Hodge. Your total wrongness in judging a manager's character is a constant source of amazement and pity. Another shrine to go in the loft next to the dust covered DOL one and the slightly mouldy John Gregory one. I'm sure you'll bounce back :0)
So, how long until you turn on the new manager as he doesn't do exactly as you want and dares to sign a player you don't rate, despite winning games in the meantime?
I'll give it to Christmas.
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Gotta admit Playing West ham seems a lot more exciting now after the week we have had. Luke Young at RB, Davies (why is no one talking to me and saying i am great) back in defence with Dunney and possibly Ireland with Downing and Petrov ............ :-
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Of course I'm hoping for a win because we might not look so stale as often did under O'Neill. The change might just be a breath of fresh air.
The fans have all got to give their full support to the players for the whole match as they need us now more than ever.
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I would like to see the players give their all now. The shakles are off so now is the time to prove your point.
Wish I was going.
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Any ideas on the predicted attendance for Saturday?
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Any ideas on the predicted attendance for Saturday?
Mostly Villa fans with a small percentage of East Londoners.
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Any ideas on the predicted attendance for Saturday?
Mostly Villa fans with a small percentage of East Londoners.
haha
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Oh....4-0 to the Villa.
We're gonna tear Wrist Ham a new one.
I go along with this. I think we'll smash the shit out of them.
Does anyone really think Ireland will play if the deal's done in the next 24 hours? Isn't today the deadline for any new signings to play anyway?
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Oh....4-0 to the Villa.
We're gonna tear Wrist Ham a new one.
I go along with this. I think we'll smash the shit out of them.
Does anyone really think Ireland will play if the deal's done in the next 24 hours? Isn't today the deadline for any new signings to play anyway?
I thought it was noon Friday,could be wrong though
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Any ideas on the predicted attendance for Saturday?
Mostly Villa fans with a small percentage of East Londoners.
haha
*bad da bum tish*
"Goodnight, god bless. You've been a lovely audience"
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Premier League Rules state:
Subject to the provisions of Rule M.1, the deadline for receipt by the Secretary of all duly completed documents required by these Rules to effect the registration of a Player shall be 12 noon on the last Working Day before the date of the first League Match in which the Club making the application intends him to play.
That would suggest Noon tomorrow.
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I fear the worst going into this game, worst possible preperation for the opening day of the new campaign.
Villa 0-2 West Ham
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Well last season was very good preparation and we lost to Wigan ???????
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oh dry yer eyes chris. Its hardly my fault the guy you continuously said you trusted turned out to have the morale backbone of a common Hodge. Your total wrongness in judging a manager's character is a constant source of amazement and pity. Another shrine to go in the loft next to the dust covered DOL one and the slightly mouldy John Gregory one. I'm sure you'll bounce back :0)
So, how long until you turn on the new manager as he doesn't do exactly as you want and dares to sign a player you don't rate, despite winning games in the meantime?
I'll give it to Christmas.
If i do, you can bet it'll be on his decisions as a manager. The new guy whoever he is won't be popular with a lot on here purely because he's Lerner's man and replaced the saviour. In fact many will be dying to see him fail, just like MON's successors at Celtic. Could be decades before we purge the MONette fanclub
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I think the players will have a lot of confidence and also a point to prove. The happy BMH cannot be underestimated. Kev Mac is well respected too. We have the better players, I have no doubt we'll be slotting round pegs in round holes and that we'll win.
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This is west ham so on recent form 1-1.
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oh dry yer eyes chris. Its hardly my fault the guy you continuously said you trusted turned out to have the morale backbone of a common Hodge. Your total wrongness in judging a manager's character is a constant source of amazement and pity. Another shrine to go in the loft next to the dust covered DOL one and the slightly mouldy John Gregory one. I'm sure you'll bounce back :0)
So, how long until you turn on the new manager as he doesn't do exactly as you want and dares to sign a player you don't rate, despite winning games in the meantime?
I'll give it to Christmas.
If i do, you can bet it'll be on his decisions as a manager. The new guy whoever he is won't be popular with a lot on here purely because he's Lerner's man and replaced the saviour. In fact many will be dying to see him fail, just like MON's successors at Celtic. Could be decades before we purge the MONette fanclub
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Hitz is apprently injured and won't play, Behrami is playing his face and wants out and they don't have a work permit for Sulejmani. Plus I am at my sister's wedding instead of the game, so I reckon a really upbeat performance from our boys and a 3-0 home win, Carew 2, Young.
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Anyone think Heskey will start?
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Nope.
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Reckon Mcdonald will play the Fonz up front with Gabby and Young behind them. 4-3-1-2. like the sound of that ............
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Oh....4-0 to the Villa.
We're gonna tear Wrist Ham a new one.
I go along with this. I think we'll smash the shit out of them.
Does anyone really think Ireland will play if the deal's done in the next 24 hours? Isn't today the deadline for any new signings to play anyway?
Can't wait for the game. A 4-1 hammering (Carew, Gabby, Davies and Ashley) with Albrighton replacing Downing on 65 minutes. The nice cable guys here are showing the game live, so I will record it and watch it countless times. Prepare to be entertained.
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oh dry yer eyes chris. Its hardly my fault the guy you continuously said you trusted turned out to have the morale backbone of a common Hodge. Your total wrongness in judging a manager's character is a constant source of amazement and pity. Another shrine to go in the loft next to the dust covered DOL one and the slightly mouldy John Gregory one. I'm sure you'll bounce back :0)
So, how long until you turn on the new manager as he doesn't do exactly as you want and dares to sign a player you don't rate, despite winning games in the meantime?
I'll give it to Christmas.
If i do, you can bet it'll be on his decisions as a manager. The new guy whoever he is won't be popular with a lot on here purely because he's Lerner's man and replaced the saviour. In fact many will be dying to see him fail, just like MON's successors at Celtic. Could be decades before we purge the MONette fanclub
I can guarantee you'll be moaning about something the new manager does before I will.
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With Mac in charge. We could see the Fonz up front with gabby. (Carew has a back problem) Luke Young RB and Clarke with Dunny .......
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I wonder if Luke Young will get some ironic cheers, presuming he plays of course.
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I just realised the new season starts tomorrow. What with all this hullabaloo this week I'd forgotten. I can't wait.
I revise my initial prediction of a draw to a 3-1 win.
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Is there a squad anounced? We have heard Milner is included, but who else?
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Absolute Radio are doing Live commentary on Rock an Roll football tomorrow Rubbish station, but I keep getting emails from them
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Sod it. 2/3-0 Villa.
I reckon the lads will want to prove a point, especially if L.Young/ NRC play.
MON may have walked out, but we still have a good quality squad, and we are a much better team then west ham.
If we play well, we will win, and i think we will !
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I'd start Milner.
Friedel
Young - Dunne - Clark - Warnock
Petrov - NRC
Young - Milner - Downing
Gabby
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Must admit I don't follow the reserves too closely, but does anyone know what formation Kevin Mac usually favours?
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Gabby and Davies are also out now
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Milner can not be match fit as he has not played ant games. So I expect him to be sub.
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Must admit I don't follow the reserves too closely, but does anyone know what formation Kevin Mac usually favours?
I've seen him use 4-3-3 and 4-5-1. I'm not a regular reserve team attendee though.
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3-0 Villa, an odds on home win, just like Wigan last year. We have to win these sorts of games to be in with a shout of Euro qualification, 3 pointer, not one, certainly no room for losing, not to those lovable, chirpy,cockneys we all so love and admire.
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team will be friedel ,luke young, clarky dunny,warnock
downing, petrov, nrc, albrighton
ash
big john carew
carew to score in the 68th min and its gonna be a pen ;)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/13/squad-sheets-aston-villa-west-ham (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/13/squad-sheets-aston-villa-west-ham)
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More likely to be NRC with Petrov, more of an orthodox 4-2-3-1, seeing as Milner, along with everything else, has had no pre-season.
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we'll play 4-5-1 and we'll win 2-0 (carew,ashley)
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we'll play 4-5-1 and we'll win 2-0 (carew,ashley)
You don't know peter W do you?
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3 mths off and every fooker is fooked.... ;-D
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I hope Milner doesn't play. Not because he's off, but because the boo boys will have an effect on the rest of the team.
Give someone else a chance.
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Can't remember as unpredictable a game as this in years.
We could win 4-0 or lose 2-0. Depends on how the players are feeling.
I think Gabby will probably play regardless of fitness and Petrov will probably be knackered.
I'vde never been keen on West Ham and hate their owners, so I've gone for a win more out of hope than expectation.
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I think you boys will win tomorrow 2-0, dont know who will be in your team, but whoever plays for the Villa dont boo your players, it serves no purpose whatsoever.
Oh, and good luck for the season, as long as you finish below us lol
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Has it been confirmed Davies and Gabby are definitely out? I have a feeling Luke Young will tuck into the centre of defence beside Dunne at the expense of Clarke. Beye or Lichaj on the right.
I can't remember feeling so nervous/intrigued by the start of a new season. I really don't know what to expect in the coming days and months. If nothing, it's restored a bit of faith in the magic, unpredicability of football in an increasingly predictable era.
Live on Setanta Ireland tomorrow afternoon, Brian Little as pundit, watching a no doubt sun-drenched Villa Park (first day of the season rule that it's scorching in't it?)...I really can't wait.
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Friedel
L Young, Clark, Dunne, Warnock
A Young, MILNER, Petrov, Reo-Coker, Downing
Gabby
4-5-1 changing to 4-3-3 on attack.
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I just have this feeling that tomorrow will see a performance free of stress. Much more free flowing and without inhibition. You also sense a lifting of spirits now that MON has left and everyone can fight for a spot in the line up. I'll go for 2-0 win and more importantly a very attacking display at home.
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friedel ,luke young, clarky dunny,warnock
downing, petrov, nrc, albrighton
ash
big john carew
Eh? O'Neill has gone, so there's little chance of Freidel playing right back.
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4-2-2-1-1
Friedel
Young, Dunne, Clark, Warnock
Nige, Petrov
Downing, Albrighton
Young
Gabby
Milner on the bench if needed.
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Anything's possible today. As others have said, we could really turn it on or it could be a poor showing. I'd line up:
-----------------------------Friedal------------------------------
---L Young-------Clark------------Dunne------Warnock---
---Albrighton-----NRC----------Petrov---------Downing---
--------------------------A.Young--------------------------
--------------------------Carew---------------------------
If Gabby was fit I'd probably go with a 4-3-3 with Downing central. I think Milner drifted to the right a lot when played central, and think I would try Downing in a central position for this game to see how effective he would be there.
---------------------------Friedal------------------------
---L. Young-------Clark---------Dunne-----Warnock---
------------NRC----------Petrov-------Downing---------
-------Gabby-----------------------------------A. Young----
---------------------------Carew------------------------
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4-2-2-1-1
Friedel
Young, Dunne, Clark, Warnock
Nige, Petrov
Downing, Albrighton
Young
Gabby
Milner on the bench if needed.
That's the team for me, I reckon, although I would probably pick Beye over Luke Young - not much in it though! I hope Clarke plays, too, but I do suspect Davies might get the nod.
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Assuming Cuellar, Collins, Davies and Agbonlahor are out;
----------------------Freidel------------------
Young--------Clark--------Dunne----Warnock
-------Petrov-----Reo Coker---Sidwell-----
Young--------------------------------Downing
---------------------Carew----------------------
Subs;
Guzan,
Beye,
Lichaj,
Salifou,
Albrighton,
Heskey,
Delfounso.
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I'll be really curious to see how we play, come on Villa let's make a positive statement.
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I think this is the first game in 3 years I am not able to name the starting 11 on my way to the ground with little chance of being wrong. Today I just don't know. Which has to make it harder for West Ham to prepare.
But all of the last few days needs to be out of the window for 90 minutes, beat West Ham comfortably, show the league we still have a good squad, and that we are still to be reckoned with, and then think about this manager lark.
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Who's nicked the Match Thread?
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If it doesn't magically appear by five to three, we'll allow you to create one, Kelly.
Think you can handle that?
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Villa to win 3-1 and pandemonium on the match thread every time you type 'yes', 'goal', 'GABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBY', 'ref, you twat', 'anybody seen Milner?', 'don't let Tommy shoot', 'that's what a substitution looks like, Martin', 'anybody got a stream?', etc as you'll have a message (Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.) to tell you that there have been 83 new posts since you last read the thread...
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Assuming Cuellar, Collins, Davies and Agbonlahor are out;
----------------------Freidel------------------
Young--------Clark--------Dunne----Warnock
-------Petrov-----Reo Coker---Sidwell-----
Young--------------------------------Downing
---------------------Carew----------------------
Subs;
Guzan,
Beye,
Lichaj,
Salifou,
Albrighton,
Heskey,
Delfounso.
Quite like that although I think that Beye will start instead of Clark.
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Friedel, L Young, Dunne, Clark, Warnock, Albrighton, Petrov, Milner, Downing, A Young, Carew
Subs: Weimann, Bannan, Lichaj, Heskey, Guzan, Beye, NRC
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Assuming Cuellar, Collins, Davies and Agbonlahor are out;
----------------------Freidel------------------
Young--------Clark--------Dunne----Warnock
-------Petrov-----Reo Coker---Sidwell-----
Young--------------------------------Downing
---------------------Carew----------------------
Subs;
Guzan,
Beye,
Lichaj,
Salifou,
Albrighton,
Heskey,
Delfounso.
Quite like that although I think that Beye will start instead of Clark.
I think given KM is the manager today, he won't be afriad to use Clark or Albrighton. Clark has looked solid and is a proper CB, and arguably Albrighton has been our best player in pre-season. Blood them both, there's nothing to fear and lots to gain.
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Villa to win 3-1 and pandemonium on the match thread every time you type 'yes', 'goal', 'GABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBY', 'ref, you twat', 'anybody seen Milner?', 'don't let Tommy shoot', 'that's what a substitution looks like, Martin', 'anybody got a stream?', etc as you'll have a message (Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.) to tell you that there have been 83 new posts since you last read the thread...
Hee hee hee!!!
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If it doesn't magically appear by five to three, we'll allow you to create one, Kelly.
Think you can handle that?
When did you suddenly grow a pair of balls?
I'll put one up when the teams are announced.
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any links to streams, i am in the US
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Take your pick, Hawkeye:
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=83704&part=sports
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It's also live on Fox Soccer Channel - now in HD (thank God)
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can anyone give me a link to the Veetle broadcast-can only get everton/Blackburn.