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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: deero83 on August 03, 2010, 11:12:15 AM
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Hi all
I am new to Heroes and Villains and am also signed up to sit in the Holte Upper K1 as my first ever season ticket!
As I'll be going to the games on my own, I just wondered:
- where people drink before the game
- what the deal is with the Holte Pub now that I have "priority access"
- what can I do with my Holte Suite priority access
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Welcome.
Avoid The Barton's Arms. Right bunch of miserablists.
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Hi all
I am new to Heroes and Villains and am also signed up to sit in the Holte Upper K1 as my first ever season ticket!
As I'll be going to the games on my own, I just wondered:
- where people drink before the game
- All sorts of places, from city centre, to locals in and around Aston, to the Holte Pub and Suite you mentioned earlier.
- what the deal is with the Holte Pub now that I have "priority access"
- I believe it's first come first served and circa £4 with a programme?
- what can I do with my Holte Suite priority access
- essentially the same as The Holte Suite. Paying to get into one DOESN'T mean getting into the other from what I remember.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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- what the deal is with the Holte Pub now that I have "priority access"
- I believe it's first come first served and circa £4 with a programme?
Oh. I can stop waiting for my 'invitation' to come through the door then.
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Invites stopped end of season before last I think, I never got one either.
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That's a shame, I was looking forward to being in the lottery to win my lunch!
£4 to get into a pub is a bit steep really. Is it any good?
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Welcome deero83.
You sound very positive and that's quite refreshing. If you want to stay that way, avoid posts that contain the following words....
Moscow
Plan 'B' (the lack off)
squad utilization
stubborn
O'Neill
hoof
recognised right back
not a right back
can't play right back
right back
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Welcome deero83.
You sound very positive and that's quite refreshing. If you want to stay that way, avoid posts that contain the following words....
Moscow
Plan 'B' (the lack off)
squad utilization
stubborn
O'Neill
hoof
recognised right back
not a right back
can't play right back
right back
I like it!
Yes, quite positive I suppose. I've never had a season ticket for a team before and considering I'm originally from Stoke and spent the first 20-odd years of my life following Port Vale, I decided to concentrate my attentions to the Villa a couple of years ago. I guess I still have the 'greenhorn' optimism that comes with the fact that I'll be watching a premiership game every fortnight as a minimum. I've been to a fair few games over the last couple of years so decided to take the plunge and sign up for the season ticket.
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That's a shame, I was looking forward to being in the lottery to win my lunch!
£4 to get into a pub is a bit steep really. Is it any good?
It's worth it just to walk out of the pub and be outside the ground.
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That's a shame, I was looking forward to being in the lottery to win my lunch!
£4 to get into a pub is a bit steep really. Is it any good?
It's worth it just to walk out of the pub and be outside the ground.
Well that's what I thought. How long before kick-off do you have to get there to be able to get in?
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how old are you now deero? I personally would have stayed following port vale!
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That's a shame, I was looking forward to being in the lottery to win my lunch!
£4 to get into a pub is a bit steep really. Is it any good?
It's worth it just to walk out of the pub and be outside the ground.
Well that's what I thought. How long before kick-off do you have to get there to be able to get in?
The £4 does include a programme.
I would suggest getting there no later than an hour before kick-off to get in either place.
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You might be better off drinking near the ground. If you don't want somewhere that does plastic glasses and is full of rowdy younger folks, then head to The Bartons Arms or The Ruskin Hall.
If you prefer it a bit rowdier then there are a number of places down near the ground.
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how old are you now deero? I personally would have stayed following port vale!
I still follow them, but I just don't actively support them by going to games.
I was basically fed up with paying £19 per game to watch League Two football, which believe me, is very bad. Added to this was the humiliation that came with Stoke getting promoted into the Prem.....
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how old are you now deero? I personally would have stayed following port vale!
26!
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I'm not a fan of the £4 (or the Carlsberg) but I think it's worth it overall. Nice surroundings, reasonable food and I can't remember the last time I couldn't get a seat. I've only been to the 2 pubs at the end of Witton Lane so I can't comment on the others that a bit further afield but the one's I know are too busy for my liking.
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Your own team was crap so you started supporting a Premier League team?
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Your own team was crap so you started supporting a Premier League team?
Er.....
Well basically yes, but there's also the fact that I have been living in Birmingham for the last 5 years and will be for the foreseeable future unless something drastic happens.
I thought I'd get some banter about it to be honest.
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Welcome Deero - you will find some grumpy ones on here but don't worry about it. Everyone is a little uptight at the moment with the lack of activity at VP and the good and bad virtues of MoN. Expect a rollercoaster ride of emotions but that's half the fun. Whereabouts in Brum are you?
My first Villa game was v Port Vale in 1974 I think...
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Walmley Villa - I live in Cotteridge.
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Isn't that bandit country? Few Bloonoses around that way I think. Reagrding pubs by the ground the King Edward is ok. Avoid the Adventurers unless your kitted out in Stone Island etc. Holte Pub or Holte Suite would probably be your best bet initially. Cheers.
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Your own team was crap so you started supporting a Premier League team?
Er.....
Well basically yes, but there's also the fact that I have been living in Birmingham for the last 5 years and will be for the foreseeable future unless something drastic happens.
I thought I'd get some banter about it to be honest.
Not from me you wont, there's nothing wrong with seeing the light. You could have quite easily supported City or United.
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Welcome to H&V deero, it doesn't matter how you came to be a Villa fan, it just matters that you did.
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Sounds good to me. I'll give the Holte Pub and/or Suite a try, thanks for the tip.
Going to the Valencia game on Friday, so starting to get excited about the forthcoming season! (Although I'm not sure about the lack of activity in the transfer market myself!)
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(Although I'm not sure about the lack of activity in the transfer market myself!)
lesson 1 in the disappointment of being a villa fan
welcome deero
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Welcome.
Avoid The Barton's Arms. Right bunch of miserablists.
Oi!
:-D
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(Although I'm not sure about the lack of activity in the transfer market myself!)
lesson 1 in the disappointment of being a villa fan
welcome deero
Having said that, it could end up with the results MON's late dealings had last season - we'd've been lost without Dunne, Collins and Warnock to say the least.
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You could have quite easily supported City or United.
Yeah - we don't need more Norwich and Hereford supporters round here.
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You might be better off drinking near the ground. If you don't want somewhere that does plastic glasses and is full of rowdy younger folks, then head to The Bartons Arms or The Ruskin Hall.
If you prefer it a bit rowdier then there are a number of places down near the ground.
I used to use the Ruskin, from memory it was £6.00 a year to Join tho would probably be a tenner now or £1.00 on the door. Plus they had their own secure parking and you are right next to the expressway.
The ground is a brsik ten min walk through Aston park
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Welcome.
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Welcome deero:
You have come along at a very "fickle" time. As we were only at wembley twice last season and just missed out on a champions league spot .............. oh and we have one of the most sought after managers in the premiership. Fickle being a key word ........
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Welcome deero:
You have come along at a very "arbitrary, capricious, changeable, cheating, coquettish, double-crossing, faithless, fitful, flighty, frivolous, inconstant, irresolute, lubricious, mercurial, mutable, quicksilver, sneaking, temperamental, ticklish, two-timing, unfaithful, unpredictable" time. As we were only at wembley twice last season and just missed out on a champions league spot .............. oh and we have one of the most sought after managers in the premiership. arbitrary, capricious, changeable, cheating, coquettish, double-crossing, faithless, fitful, flighty, frivolous, inconstant, irresolute, lubricious, mercurial, mutable, quicksilver, sneaking, temperamental, ticklish, two-timing, unfaithful, unpredictable being a key word ........
very eloquent!
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That's just the word filter for the "F" word- f1ckle.
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Your own team was crap so you started supporting a Premier League team?
Who says we cannot compete with Man United?! Only 30,000 more to go.
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Isn't that bandit country? Few Bloonoses around that way I think.
I live in Kings Norton and there are a few but they're here for our amusement and to help remind us of how lucky we are.
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Isn't that bandit country? Few Bloonoses around that way I think. /quote]
I live in Kings Norton and there are a few but they're here for our amusement and to help remind us of how lucky we are.
There's quite a few Villa fans that I've spotted around Cotteridge/Kings Norton/Bournville....
The Mrs's family are mainly Bluenoses apart from the mother-in-law and her side of the family, who're Villa, so I've chosen wisely.
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oh and we have one of the most sought after managers in the premiership.
Sought after by whom may I ask? Did Liverpool approach him? No. Did Chelsea approach him the four times they have sought a new manager since Mourinhio left? No. You cannot seriously believe that Manchester United would want him to replace Fergie when he finally retires. Arsenal when Wenger goes? What about Spurs? I know- Man City will be in for him if Mancini cocks up… the only premier league clubs that would take him now are the ones who are always going to be bottom half fodder. His days of being hailed as a great manager are now gone. He will never get a bigger job than the one he is in now.
And deero83, welcome to the Villa and I hope you enjoy it, but in all honestly I’m firmly in the old school that once you’ve nailed your colours to the mast you cant and should never change them. However, welcome nonetheless and thank you for sharing in our suffering.
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Welcome to H&V deero, it doesn't matter how you came to be a Villa fan, it just matters that you did.
We would give absolute shitloads to anyone we found out had swapped Port Vale for Man Utd or Chelsea, but as it's Villa it's okay?
Sorry, deero, you are a turncoat sir and I'm mightily unimpressed.
Nah, not really, do what you want, it's a free country.
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oh and we have one of the most sought after managers in the premiership.
Sought after by whom may I ask? Did Liverpool approach him? No. Did Chelsea approach him the four times they have sought a new manager since Mourinhio left? No. You cannot seriously believe that Manchester United would want him to replace Fergie when he finally retires. Arsenal when Wenger goes? What about Spurs? I know- Man City will be in for him if Mancini cocks up… the only premier league clubs that would take him now are the ones who are always going to be bottom half fodder. His days of being hailed as a great manager are now gone. He will never get a bigger job than the one he is in now.
And deero83, welcome to the Villa and I hope you enjoy it, but in all honestly I’m firmly in the old school that once you’ve nailed your colours to the mast you cant and should never change them. However, welcome nonetheless and thank you for sharing in our suffering.
Liverpool were strongly mentioned when Benitez went. And only after Lerner followed by MON came out with a statement that he "was happy after talking to Mr Lerner" that he was staying did the interest filter off ?????
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I agree with dave cooper but as it's the villa welcome aboard the rollercoaster of emotions.
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We would give absolute shitloads to anyone we found out had swapped Port Vale for Man Utd or Chelsea, but as it's Villa it's okay?
Correct.
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Welcome to H&V deero, it doesn't matter how you came to be a Villa fan, it just matters that you did.
We would give absolute shitloads to anyone we found out had swapped Port Vale for Man Utd or Chelsea, but as it's Villa it's okay?
Sorry, deero, you are a turncoat sir and I'm mightily unimpressed.
Nah, not really, do what you want, it's a free country.
I can see why it looks like I'm a turncoat. I will always follow the Vale, no matter what, as after 20-odd years you can't exactly ditch them. Please don't get me wrong; I am a firm believer in supporting your local team so now that I live in Brum I thought I ought to adopt one of the local teams here. It just so happens that I like them that much I decided to buy a season ticket at the Villa.
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Welcome to H&V deero, it doesn't matter how you came to be a Villa fan, it just matters that you did.
We would give absolute shitloads to anyone we found out had swapped Port Vale for Man Utd or Chelsea, but as it's Villa it's okay?
Sorry, deero, you are a turncoat sir and I'm mightily unimpressed.
Nah, not really, do what you want, it's a free country.
I can see why it looks like I'm a turncoat. I will always follow the Vale, no matter what, as after 20-odd years you can't exactly ditch them. Please don't get me wrong; I am a firm believer in supporting your local team so now that I live in Brum I thought I ought to adopt one of the local teams here. It just so happens that I like them that much I decided to buy a season ticket at the Villa.
If you knew anything of Dave you'd realise that he wasn't being serious, he gave up Villa for Tamworth.
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It was a tongue in cheek jibe aimed at those who would have slagged you off rotten if you had declared that you had decided to support one of the Sky4, but as it's our club it's okay!
Personally I don't really care who anyone supports, it's a personal choice. I don't hate the Brummie Reds at all but they drive some posters on here mad with rage for some reason.
Good luck, let's hope Villa can produce some football to make your purchase all the more worthwhile.
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When I lived in Italy, I had a season ticket for Milan.
That wasn't because I'd forgotten about the Villa, but because I liked watching football near to where I lived, and because I went often enough to make it financially worthwhile.
And it cost absolutely feck all, too.
Oh, and just to top it all, they went through a short spell of winning feck all whilst I was watching them.
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When I lived in Italy, I had a season ticket for Milan.
That wasn't because I'd forgotten about the Villa, but because I liked watching football near to where I lived, and because I went often enough to make it financially worthwhile.
And it cost absolutely feck all, too.
Oh, and just to top it all, they went through a short spell of winning feck all whilst I was watching them.
Thanks paulie, I'm glad someone understands!
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Hey, trying to find Villa fans in Melbourne, Australia. I'm also a Melbourne Victory member but Heart fans are "kind of" welcome to reply.
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Another question:
I understand I can go and watch the reserves when they play at VP for free now I've got a season ticket? Is this still the case? Do many people go?
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Details here (http://www.heroesandvillains.info/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=39291)
You may be somewhat disappointed.
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Details here (http://www.heroesandvillains.info/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=39291)
You may be somewhat disappointed.
Oh. Well I guess at least some of the games are still at VP. I probably wouldn't have gone to that many really, but that is a bit annoying that some are at Bodymoor Heath instead. Damn Premier League meddling with things.....!
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Welcome deero. It's not where you've been, it's where you're at.
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Yes, quite positive I suppose. I've never had a season ticket for a team before and considering I'm originally from Stoke and spent the first 20-odd years of my life following Port Vale, I decided to concentrate my attentions to the Villa a couple of years ago. I guess I still have the 'greenhorn' optimism that comes with the fact that I'll be watching a premiership game every fortnight as a minimum. I've been to a fair few games over the last couple of years so decided to take the plunge and sign up for the season ticket.
Welcome ! Welcome! Welcome ! I didnt think it was possible for someone to change their allegiance but this is good news for us, although I must ask the question "If Villa play Port Vale in the cup, where would you loyalties be?" Be truthful now...total respect to you if you say Vale.
Good to be positive too, Ive been Villa for 44 years and love it all and am always positive. In fact, my theory is that most of our fans who bemoan the disaster of being only 6th arent old enough to remember the dark days of the late 1960s.
One last question with your being from Vale, is Robbie Williams every inch the twat that we think he is?
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"If Villa play Port Vale in the cup, where would you loyalties be?"
Remember when we played Vale in the Cup in 1990? They suddenly discovered 12,000 fans ( double their average home attendance) and complained when Villa wouldn't increase their allocation.
Pissed down with rain all game, 6-0 and Stuart Gray was bending in free kicks like Rivelino.
Whatever happened to Vale Park's plan to become the Wembley of the north?
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Chico Hamilton:
Ah, Vale in the 90s... those were the days. We actually had decent players then, and a top manager in John Rudge. How I would love for them to be back in Div One/Championship. I remember how pleased I was when Stoke had just built the Sh*ttania Stadium because they thought they were going to get into the Prem, and we ended up finishing higher than them. Brings a tear to my eye. Then we sacked Rudge, brought in Brian Horton, and it all went pear-shaped from there including nearly going out of business.
Vale Park was known as the "Wembley of the North" because it had the largest playing surface outside Wembley at the time.
Andy Lochhead:
Yes, Robbie Williams is a tw*t. When Vale were in Administration in 2002 he had just signed an £80m record deal so we were begging him to put some money into the club. How much did we get once the Administration had finished, and a few years later? £250,000. I bet he spends that on coke in a weekend.
If Villa were to play Vale in the cup, I would naturally find it very difficult. If Vale were to win, I would be chuffed for them as they've had a crap time over the last few seasons and deserve a bit of luck. Micky Adams seems to be doing the business for them at the moment, as he nearly got them into the playoffs last season so hopefully things are on the up for them. I remember the good old cup runs under Rudge..... beating Everton and taking Arsenal to penalties.......
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When you answered Chico about Vale in the 90s, you say "we" 3 times.
When you answered me about playing Villa now, you say "them" 3 times.
That answers my question, you wouldnt find it that difficult.
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When you answered Chico about Vale in the 90s, you say "we" 3 times.
When you answered me about playing Villa now, you say "them" 3 times.
That answers my question, you wouldnt find it that difficult.
Picky.....
I can see I'm going to have to run these posts pass my press secretary from now on!
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Isn't that bandit country? Few Bloonoses around that way I think. /quote]
I live in Kings Norton and there are a few but they're here for our amusement and to help remind us of how lucky we are.
There's quite a few Villa fans that I've spotted around Cotteridge/Kings Norton/Bournville....
The Mrs's family are mainly Bluenoses apart from the mother-in-law and her side of the family, who're Villa, so I've chosen wisely.
My parents live in Bournville, I used to live in Northfield, and they go to the Kings Norton ex-services in Cotteridge so feel I can speak about the area. Although there are noses there always to be slightly more Villa - although Northfield is 50/50 I'd say.
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Welcome, deero. To come back to your question about where to go before and after games - the Holte Suite has a lot to recommend it. It's pleasant, spacious, comfortable, next to the turnstiles and does good food (there's usually a roast and a curry). The downside would be that the beer is fizzy John Smith's or similar, there's the admission charge, and on popular days they stop admitting about an hour before kick-off. The Barton's Arms is a bit of a trek (15-20 minutes), but it's an excellent pub (Victorian, beautifully restored) with a fine selection of beers and, if you want to eat as well, a very good Thai cuisine. If you have a bit of time after a game, the Barton's is the place to go. All of the above applies to proper matchdays such as West Ham next week; I'm not sure how much of a crowd there will be for Valencia on Friday.
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Welcome, deero. To come back to your question about where to go before and after games - the Holte Suite has a lot to recommend it. It's pleasant, spacious, comfortable, next to the turnstiles and does good food (there's usually a roast and a curry). The downside would be that the beer is fizzy John Smith's or similar, there's the admission charge, and on popular days they stop admitting about an hour before kick-off. The Barton's Arms is a bit of a trek (15-20 minutes), but it's an excellent pub (Victorian, beautifully restored) with a fine selection of beers and, if you want to eat as well, a very good Thai cuisine. If you have a bit of time after a game, the Barton's is the place to go. All of the above applies to proper matchdays such as West Ham next week; I'm not sure how much of a crowd there will be for Valencia on Friday.
Thanks Frank, very helpful.