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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: TimTheVillain on July 30, 2010, 03:21:36 PM

Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 30, 2010, 03:21:36 PM
I am a little concerned that Friedel is beginning to look his age.

My concern is not helped by the fact that Guzan is not looking like the 'real deal' after some poor displays last season in the Cups.

While I think Friedel has one season left in him I am not sure there are any more left in him at Prem level, so should MON be looking at a new keeper (as well as a top striker / right back / creative midfileder) ?

I think he should be myself.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: TheSandman on July 30, 2010, 03:33:07 PM
Merv just mentioned Boaz Myhill on the transfer thread.

He's one I'd look at definitely.

I agree with what you say about Friedel and Guzan but we could just about manage another season before we go out and sign a new one so it's a need but not as immediate as the midfielder or right back.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 30, 2010, 03:38:52 PM
Friedel was fine last year, he can manage another one no problem.

Nothing to worry about until next summer I'd say.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on July 30, 2010, 03:38:53 PM
Get Joe Hart in the Milner deal.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Merv on July 30, 2010, 03:49:55 PM
I agree that Friedel's got one more season in him.

West Brom have offered £1.5m for Myhill, which Hull are considering.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Olneythelonely on July 30, 2010, 04:07:07 PM
Friedel is still good enough, with Guzan (admittedly with a couple of dodgy displays) good enough to replace him when the time comes.

It's one of the positions I'm most comfortable with.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Mark H on July 30, 2010, 04:17:08 PM
I would get Myhill for £1.5m in a heartbeat - he can even have his old locker back !!
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Pete3206 on July 30, 2010, 04:39:19 PM
Kirkland for me, if he could stay fit.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: pedro25 on July 30, 2010, 04:43:04 PM
Need a new keeper, Westwood please.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: LeeB on July 30, 2010, 04:43:08 PM
Quote from: "Pete3206"
Kirkland for me, if he could stay fit.


Agreed.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Villa'Zawg on July 30, 2010, 04:47:47 PM
I'd be much happier if we replaced Guzan with one of those goalies that has never had one or two slightly dodgy moments.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: streetlyvillan on July 30, 2010, 04:49:07 PM
Freidel pulled off two great saves at warsaw tuesday night ,one more season no problem !
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Concrete John on July 30, 2010, 04:51:56 PM
I think this is an issue for next summer, but if Myhill is available at that price we should move now.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: H00513R on July 30, 2010, 04:52:03 PM
Villa should loan Guzan out so he can stay up to snuff.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: eastie on July 30, 2010, 04:53:09 PM
Hull have now accepted albions £1.5m bid for myhill.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: sfx412 on July 30, 2010, 04:55:51 PM
The keeper situation could easily develop into the panic situation we had last season when Davies injured his shoulder permanently. Luckily then there were a few days left of the window to bail us out.
Guzan is no PL keeper and Brad will be lucky to be as good for another full season
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: TheSandman on July 30, 2010, 05:00:32 PM
Quote from: "Villadawg"
I'd be much happier if we replaced Guzan with one of those goalies that has never had one or two slightly dodgy moments.


Don't worry. We'll find him at the same club as our 20 goal a season striker and young defensive midfielder who combines the vision, awesome passing and perfect tackling that puts Stan Petrov to shame.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Legion on July 30, 2010, 05:28:02 PM
Joe Hart would be ideal.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 30, 2010, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Villadawg"
I'd be much happier if we replaced Guzan with one of those goalies that has never had one or two slightly dodgy moments.


Don't worry. We'll find him at the same club as our 20 goal a season striker and young defensive midfielder who combines the vision, awesome passing and perfect tackling that puts Stan Petrov to shame.


As long as it''s one of the 20 clubs where we do all our shopping.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 30, 2010, 06:09:53 PM
Joe Hart - together with Ireland and Bellamy from Citeh would make a cracking swap for Jimmy.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: bertlambshank on July 30, 2010, 06:11:07 PM
Croatian u19 keeper looked very good.Christ knows what is name his.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 30, 2010, 06:11:19 PM
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "Villadawg"
I'd be much happier if we replaced Guzan with one of those goalies that has never had one or two slightly dodgy moments.


Don't worry. We'll find him at the same club as our 20 goal a season striker and young defensive midfielder who combines the vision, awesome passing and perfect tackling that puts Stan Petrov to shame.


As long as it''s one of the 20 clubs where we do all our shopping.


Am I correct in saying that Celtic have just sold their keeper ?

We have a good credit line arranged there I think ;-)
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 30, 2010, 06:20:32 PM
Tim Howard is a decent keeper and only 31.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Matt C on July 30, 2010, 06:21:18 PM
A problem for next summer I guess, more pressing concerns this year.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 30, 2010, 06:23:13 PM
Quote from: "Matt C"
A problem for next summer I guess, more pressing concerns this year.


Time waits for no man, deals can be done sooner rather than later, but yes, our current Manager is likely to address this c. 31 August, 2011 - 11.59 pm.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on July 30, 2010, 06:55:40 PM
At walsall in the week. Friedel pulled off a world class reflex save from 6 yards. And this is pre-season. He is in fantastic shape and he is probably our least concerning player ...................
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: JJ-AV on July 30, 2010, 07:03:38 PM
I'd bleed Guzan in more this season. He deserves a run of games so we can really see him.

He's got phenomenal reflexes, that's something you can't teach. So he's got the hard part under his belt. I reckon he'll still be our number 1.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: ozzjim on July 30, 2010, 07:12:30 PM
Not convinced Westwood is up to par.

Keepers need football and mistakes to make them great. Guzan needs time.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: TheBarneyArmy on July 30, 2010, 07:15:18 PM
Joe Hart would be the ideal option, top quality keeper, and it would p!ss off the noses. I think he would be out of our price range though. Can't see Citeh wanting to do a deal unless Milner part of it. I would take Hart, Ireland and Onuoha.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: KevinGage on July 30, 2010, 07:53:29 PM
Westwood for me.

Catch 'em on the way up.

Played in the Championship so shouldn't have the same issues Guzan has with crosses and the like.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: brian green on July 30, 2010, 08:50:53 PM
I don't rate either of our keepers.   Friedel is too old and Guzan is only a shot stopper.  The keeper who head butted the referee in the Africa Cup of Nations (Algeria?) is my idea of a good investment.   Mike Riley getting twatted would at least be mildly amusing.   I was going to say Mike Halsey but I respect the moderators.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 30, 2010, 08:54:43 PM
Friedel is class and always does the business in the big games.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: brian green on July 30, 2010, 09:04:25 PM
Yes Paul, but with respect the little games carry the same amount of points and those are the ones we repeatedly screw up.   We also failed twice at Wembley last year and while no blame accrues to goalkeeping in either of those games they serve to highlight a year in year out lack of consistency.   We have to have a team which will go out and grind the faces of the opposition regardless of their perceived status.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: TimTheVillain on July 30, 2010, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Friedel is class and always does the business in the big games.


I think the point is that he may only have a season left, he's 40 next year Paul, and Guzan isn't looking like the ready made replacement we all hoped he would be.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: atomicjam on July 30, 2010, 10:43:49 PM
If we are to buy another keeper it will not be Myhill, Baggies have just signed him from Hull. I am happy with our two Brads. An experienced emergency third choice keeper would be good as cover.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 30, 2010, 11:44:59 PM
Here's a slightly bizarre suggestion.  Hows about we send Guzan out on loan for a season and loan Hart from City.

I think Guzan needs games as his fear of crosses could be resolved simply by playing more matches.

If he fails then hopefully Hart will have developed some sort of affinity for the club having played at villa for a season.

I doubt Hart would come and be a reserve though...
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Andyg on July 30, 2010, 11:45:47 PM
Parish will be fine as 3rd or back up, not a position we have to worry too much about.

L. Young would also make a fine right back, if we can persuade him to play.

Davies is also a great back up Centre Back when in top form.

We need a central midfielder and a forward/hole player to stay still.

To move forward, obviously an additional quality player in D,M and A is required but we can't afford them.

It bugs me.
Title: friedel
Post by: darren woolley on July 31, 2010, 09:29:54 AM
I think joe lewis of peterborough would be a good shout 22 years of age has first team experience i would buy him.
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: deero83 on July 31, 2010, 11:42:42 AM
Quote from: "Andyg"
Parish will be fine as 3rd or back up, not a position we have to worry too much about.

L. Young would also make a fine right back, if we can persuade him to play.

Davies is also a great back up Centre Back when in top form.

We need a central midfielder and a forward/hole player to stay still.

To move forward, obviously an additional quality player in D,M and A is required but we can't afford them.

It bugs me.


I have to completely disagree about Parrish. I saw him warming up before a few games last season and he didn't stop a shot!

I for one cannot understand why Luke Young isnt played by MON, other than the fact he seems to have upset him. I saw LY play in the last game of the season against Blackburn and he looked lively and keen to get the ball. When you plonk a guy on the bench all season, he's bound to have a mare against a team like Chelski.

Not sure about the top midfielder, I think it depends what happens with Milner. We certainly need a good striker.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: UsualSuspect on July 31, 2010, 11:59:19 AM
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
I am a little concerned that Friedel is beginning to look his age.

My concern is not helped by the fact that Guzan is not looking like the 'real deal' after some poor displays last season in the Cups.

While I think Friedel has one season left in him I am not sure there are any more left in him at Prem level, so should MON be looking at a new keeper (as well as a top striker / right back / creative midfileder) ?

I think he should be myself.


I agree

Guzan is ok for back up but not first choice

I think Freidel doesn't comand his 6y yard box well enough, at home we conceeded loads of goals to balls whipped in across it.

MON will pronbably play him when he's on a zimmer
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: Mark H on July 31, 2010, 12:26:03 PM
Another one to throw into the mix is Scott Loach at Watford - good young and English
Title: Meanwhile, between the sticks
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 31, 2010, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: "brian green"
Yes Paul, but with respect the little games carry the same amount of points and those are the ones we repeatedly screw up.   We also failed twice at Wembley last year and while no blame accrues to goalkeeping in either of those games they serve to highlight a year in year out lack of consistency.   We have to have a team which will go out and grind the faces of the opposition regardless of their perceived status.


MOTM against SHA at VP and also the first Villa keeper in god knows how long to keep a clean sheet at old trafford.
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