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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PaulTheVillan on July 22, 2010, 05:41:46 PM
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As part of the Milner to Man City deal it seems we could be getting a player in exchange.
Would you like that to be Gareth Barry?
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No.
If we want a slow fat bastard in midfield I'm nearly 10 years younger, on a free transfer and willing to accept just £40K per week.
And I can play right back!
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Barry in and taking Petrovs place. And if Milner is in the same position in a years time and we need him, I would do the same. Im not choosing out of loyalty (because that would make me a mug) I think Barry would give us an improvement in midfield. I think if he had stayed, we may have gone fourth last season
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Nah. Never go back. And he's too old.
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I wouldn't mind, I still think he could do well for us. I'd prefer Ireland really though.
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Too slow, fact, saw that against the Germans. Too defensive and we have that type of player. Need a defence splitting passer of a midfielder, that is going to get everyone noticing the Villa, then next season he will move on again to Citeh!
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No, no, NO!
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I dont think his passing is in question, far from it, and ball retention is excellent. His pace is the tough sell, but thats why I would use him to replace Petrov and look to Delph to make it his position long term
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No.
Leaving everything else to one side, with possible exception of Sid Cowans, I can't think of anyone at the Villa who has proved the "never go back" adage to be wrong.
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No, we need someone creative, who can change a game. Defour perhaps?
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Whatever the situation with Milner leaving, however pissed off we are that it looks like happening, let's not forget Barry's Evening Mail front page letter to the fans.
That's a no.
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Never go back.
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Great idea, would give enough time for Mon, to find a replacement. He would last 3 seasons surely
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Fuck NO
Did we miss him this year? NO we didn't will we miss Milner if he leaves? A big fat yes for me but I don't want that wanker back at VP Im never setting foot in the place again if he does
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No, we need someone creative, who can change a game. Defour perhaps?
Thats exactly what we need, we need a Merson type in the middle, Someone who can create something
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Maybe if he'd just said at the time he fancied a change and a new challenge, i'd would'nt begrudge him coming back .
However, after the amount of crap he came out with, agreeing to deadlines then going back on them, and the famous NOTW interview where he said he'd only leave to play Champions League Football, he can stay where he is.
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Yes, but without the please.
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No thanks. We weren't good enough for him last year in his opinion so why should we be good enough for him this year?
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No thanks. We weren't good enough for him last year in his opinion so why should we be good enough for him this year?
My sentiment entirely.
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Citeh's rocaro seats await.
The answer is NO.
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Barry, Ireland and £10m will do it for me.
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It would take Barry a while to get back whatever it was he used to do well at Villa. It wasn't until after he moved and I watched him for City and England that I noticed deficiencies that weren't so obvious when he played for us.
So that's a no ta from me.
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No.
If we want a slow fat bastard in midfield I'm nearly 10 years younger, on a free transfer and willing to accept just £40K per week.
And I can play right back!
When you say you can play right back, do you mean you can stand still somewhere vaguely on the right side of the pitch?
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No.
If we want a slow fat bastard in midfield I'm nearly 10 years younger, on a free transfer and willing to accept just £40K per week.
And I can play right back!
When you say you can play right back, do you mean you can stand still somewhere vaguely on the right side of the pitch?
It's what Carlos does! ;-)
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No thankyou. I am certain that by aprox. november next season the fat sloth will be sitting on citys bench wondering what the fuck he was thinking. I hope him and the block head are very comfortable in the dug out next season, there are plenty of hungry players out there who want to play every week.
Im sad, as i didnt think milner was that sort. Ah well, Villa move on......
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Never in a million years. Let him sit on the bench for the Elite Squad. It's called karma.
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No way i would'nt want him back he had an average season and after the way he left wanting champions league football that did it for me i would take ireland though.
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Never go back. For recent examples see Stan Staunton and SGT Mark2
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Need someone better.
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Fuck right off with this.
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he burnt his bridges on the way out. A big no from the Toronto jury.
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No, too old, too slow, and haven't forgiven him for how he conducted himself over the liverpool saga
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Barry is too slow and his best days are now going to be behind him... would get maybe 2 more average seasons out of him before he really slumped Petrov style.. plus he is slow as fuck....
Anyhow..... he wants champions league football.... so he can fuck off to some shitty just about qualified european club.. because thats the only way he will ever get it...(on the bases he wont be playing first team footy for man shitty come next season when they make top 4)
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Oh and he did burn his bridges....
There are two ways to leave a club... the Southgate way - admit you want out then play your heart out all season as our star player and leave amicably in my opinion..
or the Ehiogu/Yorke way..... be a spoilt little twat
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Judging by most of the comments here, it does make you wonder why so many people got so upset when he buggered off. For my part, I dont want him back and wasnt sorry to see him go in the first place. He was too slow and predictable then, he's too slow and predictable now
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He is in a predicament, will undoubtedly be suplus to requirements at City yet no other top side will be interested. Finish up at Fulham, wishing he hadn't allowed his ambition to outgrow his talent.
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No no way no going back!
-------he was lured by the all consuming money god--let him sit on Sheikh Citeh,s bench counting his lolly luvly lolly,
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He's a better bet than Petrov and his pace is no slower than when he was last here just over a season ago.
he would be a better player than we have in there and would give us better balance with his left foot. Without doubt he is still one of the best English midfielders in the game.
I wouldn't expect him to be used in the sitting role though as he has always been an attacking midfielder for us, and a better player for it I'd wager.
A midfield 4 of him, Ireland, Young, Downing is certainly tempting as he would be the holding player, and I'm sure hed do well.
But fuck him. 3 (maybe 2) transfer requests and the last time he wanted out he didn't have the decency to put in a transfer request but instead slagged off our manager and owner. I've publicised that I'm not a MON fan but these things should be done in-house and not for the chundering classes to eat their fags over on a Sunday morning.
He made the club look stupid and as if we were liars and bullies. For that he should not have been forgiven so easily when his 'dream' move fell through. Let him rot or go and play elsewhere. He shouldn't be made welcome here.
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Yes.
He's better than Petrov, which is the position I would play him in.
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Oh and he did burn his bridges....
There are two ways to leave a club... the Southgate way - admit you want out then play your heart out all season as our star player and leave amicably in my opinion..
or the Ehiogu/Yorke way..... be a spoilt little twat
Star player? I'd argue he's Villas most overated player of recent years. I also think stating he was leaving to play Champions League football was a bit naive on his behalf. If he was really that good, why was it only Middlesbrough who signed him? He believed the media hype around him that he was better than he actually was.
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Southgate was class, can hardly remember him putting a foot wrong for us.
He was expecting a bigger move and it didn't work out.
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No No and No!
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He is in a predicament, will undoubtedly be suplus to requirements at City yet no other top side will be interested. Finish up at Fulham, wishing he hadn't allowed his ambition to outgrow his talent.
Succinct and made me smile, if only because it is so true...
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i would love to see Barry back,
class act on the pitch for Villa over many years, and his lack of pace actually becomes an advantage as he gets older as he cant lose it what you never had,
so he is a bit like Sherigham, he was never fast so as he got older it didnt have a major negative affect on his game, compared to someone like Owen.
anyway for the right money he would be a great signing,
we never replaced him, and i still feel we miss him more than we will miss Milner, as Jimmy is in my view easier to replace, i would add that my rating on Milner is lower than most other H+Vers mind,
and my rating of Barry is much higher.
to see Barry back at VP in the Villa shirt would be great, thats where he belongs,
and i still think there is a couple of real top class seasons left in him,
come on home Gareth, you'l get a big welcome from me
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barry in for petrov, now thats appealing.... even though i hate the fat fuck he is millions of miles better than mr slow play
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Southgate was class, can hardly remember him putting a foot wrong for us.
He was expecting a bigger move and it didn't work out.
Because he wasn't good enough.
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F**K no. Lardarse Custardpants can rot in Manchester for all I care. Although I fully expect Mascherano to leave Liverpool and GB to get his dream move to play alongside Stevie GBH. Then with Cole out wide, the RedScouse suddenly look like a dangerous team again. Damn.
When was the word filter set to change Liver.p.l.o.p to Liverpool?
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If we were getting no one else in, well then yes. But he looks as slow as fuck, he was really caught for pace for England, so age seems to be catching up. If we have a young dynamic midfielder in mind, well then definaltely no.
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You can have all the skill you like but in todays game if you only have first gear you are struggling.
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Barry in for Petrov would do nothing for us, another intelligent player who's good on the ball but too slow and not physical enough to be a defensive midfielder.
We need a ball winner for that position - Reo Coker could do it but is likely on his way either this season or next.
Barry next to a player like that with someone like Ireland or even Ashley young pushed forward just behind Gabby would work.
Can't see it happening and Ireland more likely to come as part of deal along with Onouha, which I'd be happy enough with.
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I think this is a NO all around.
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How can you vote yes in this poll?
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You can have all the skill you like but in todays game if you only have first gear you are struggling.
you can have all the pace and energy you like in todays game,
but if you have a low skill level, a poor first touch and no vision of what you want to do with the ball, you are struggling
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MattW, just click YES. Simples
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How can you vote yes in this poll?
easy,
Barry is a good player that we never replaced,
his best years are behind him granted, but he is still good enough to hold his place in our team, and depending on who we have around him capable of turning in another couple of top class seasons at least
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Never, he'd see us a major step down.
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Never, he'd see us a major step down.
and we cant afford his wages
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Never, too old, too slow, too expensive. He's much better suited to keeping the bench warm at citeh next season cause thats all he'll be doing.
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He was as good 08-09 as Milner was 09-10, so a comparative player for a fraction of the price, yes please. Not sure a two of Petrov and Barry/Milner ever worked brilliantly, but then I think we all know it needs to be a 3 for us to really challenge.
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Absolutely no way, Jose. It should not happen and it most certainly will not happen.
We had the best of Barry, now we should be looking to move on.
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I voted yes and it seems I'm very much in a minority.
He is a quality player who would slot back into our system very easily.
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Wasn't heartbroken to see him go, but I'm not blind to his gifts either.
Too old seems to be the common consensus, but his game was never about movement and pace. To play dial a cliché for a second, he has the first five yards in his head.
He's the closest player we've had to Paul McGrath, in so far as he can make it look effortless at times.
Barry, Ireland and £15 mill and I'd take it.
His departure last year should have opened up the possibility of a different style of play in midfield. And it did, to an extent. It produced a worse one. That's no slight on Milner, who performed well.
But there were parallels with Steven Davis at times, with the gaps being left in key areas after a surge upfield.
Barry isn't that kind of player. And we also missed out on his distribution and how he could always pick players out to set them away down the flanks to get our attacks going.
If we had Barry, Ireland and for the sake of argument Flamini on board by Sept 1st, combined with our current lot it would be very hard to argue that the midfield wasn't in far better shape overall.
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KevinGage wrote:Barry, Ireland and £15 mill and I'd take it.
You dont seriously think they would be so stupid as to offer us that kind of deal do you? If they ever did then I'm sure we have their bloody arm off
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Wrong type of player with our "system" its been proven with Milner a quicker more mobile player suits us ..........
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KevinGage wrote:Barry, Ireland and £15 mill and I'd take it.
You dont seriously think they would be so stupid as to offer us that kind of deal do you? If they ever did then I'm sure we have their bloody arm off
Who knows?
Don't ask, don't get.
There was talk of Ireland going for as little as £6million earlier in the summer (probably bollocks admittedly). And I'm pretty sure Lardarse hasn't increased in value after the year he's had up there.
That said, I reckon if he goes anywhere this summer it will be Tottingham. 'arry is a long-term admirer and they usually collect a few midfielders every summer. It's the Tottenham way.
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I think Barry was a Tottenham fan as a boy.
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Reading this thread, it appears a lot have voted with emotion instead of rationally.
To put it another way, if he'd never played for Villa, would you take him?
Would he still be considered old and slow at the age of 29 or would he be seen as a canny addition to the squad?
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Reading this thread, it appears a lot have voted with emotion instead of rationally.
To put it another way, if he'd never played for Villa, would you take him?
Would he still be considered old and slow at the age of 29 or would he be seen as a canny addition to the squad?
I'd still consider him, without doubt. I've said it a thousand times, we need more composure and technical ability in our midfield.
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Imagine having Barry and Petrov CM. It's too scary to think about how many runners would expose the glaring lack of pace, I don't care how many yards he's got in his head. It never used to help him catch players bursting away from him.
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Imagine having Barry and Petrov CM. It's too scary to think about how many runners would expose the glaring lack of pace, I don't care how many yards he's got in his head. It never used to help him catch players bursting away from him.
Imagine... I'm still having bloody nightmares about it two years later. I think I moaned about the lack of pace, flair and attacking ability from a two of Barry and Petrov every week when we played them as a two.
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I watched him for Man City against some Mexican team the other day and I have to admit that he was awesome, admittedly only in spells.
Petrov and Barry could work but they would both need to sit which I understand Barry was not prepared to do when he was last at Villa yet is happy to do it for England.
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...Having said that I think he'd be way more likely to go to Liverpool or Spurs. Probably better for all parties too.
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The problem at Villa was that he saw himself as an attacking midfielder, he just isn't that at all.
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A Man City season ticket holder told me this morning that Barry has been shit all season. Mind you, he told me that Richard Dunne was a useless lump. Does that put into perspective just how shit Barry has been for them.
I don't want him back as it will only confuse people as to who is actually being booed.
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The problem at Villa was that he saw himself as an attacking midfielder, he just isn't that at all.
still think he's better than just a holding midfielder though,
theres been plenty of matches in the past few years, where Barry has been the only thing worth watching throughout the whole game
a lot cleverer player than is given credit for, maybe his lack of pace makes him so
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never go back....
itd be like sex with the ex. Great in principle till you realise shes still fat, a bit older and youre never gonna get to where you want to be with her
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there is one massive problem with Barry coming back. He signed a 4 year contract on massive money, there is no way we'll pay his current wages and if you think for a second he'll accept a massive pay cut you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
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Reading this thread, it appears a lot have voted with emotion instead of rationally.
To put it another way, if he'd never played for Villa, would you take him?
Would he still be considered old and slow at the age of 29 or would he be seen as a canny addition to the squad?
Well we are football fans.
Rationally, yes he would be a better bet than Petrov. But emotinally, he can get tae fuck. Wanting to go is one thing but dragging the name of the club through the gutter press is going totally over the line of no return. Wanker.
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It would appear there are people willing to drive him to his next club. Nice thread title too.
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