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Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 30, 2010, 01:25:25 AM
From the Liverpool Echo (twitter):

ROY HODGSON will be officially named Liverpool FC’s new manager tomorrow (Wednesday).

The 62-year-old is due on Merseyside to complete the formalities of signing a contract after the Reds agreed a compensation package in the region of £2million with Fulham for his release.

Cordial negotiations have been ongoing in the past 72 hours between Liverpool’s Managing Director Christian Purslow and Fulham Chief Executive Alastair Mackintosh and they have now reached a successful conclusion.

Though Liverpool – who have remained tight-lipped throughout their search to replace Rafa Benitez – were linked with a clutch of names, Hodgson was always the number one candidate.

Other names in the frame included former Real Madrid boss Manuel Pellegrini, Galatasary’s Frank Rijkaard and Didier Deschamps of Marseille, while Kenny Dalglish also made it clear he was desperate to take the job on.

Dalglish had initially been named as part of the recruitment process but he was desperate to have a second crack at the post he occupied between 1985 and 1991 when he felt his claims were as strong as the other candidates.

The board, though, were anxious to pursue Hodgson and Liverpool will be his 16th job in a managerial career that has spanned almost 35 years.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: TaxDodger on June 30, 2010, 02:01:06 AM
This is going to make it slightly harder to dislike them. Only slightly mind. I still think they'll finish about 7th again, especially if they lose Gerrard or Torres.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: eamonn on June 30, 2010, 02:38:37 AM
More importantly did the Liverpool Echo break the twitter maximum character law?
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: TopDeck113 on June 30, 2010, 04:54:56 AM
After over-achieving with Fulham, I'm not really surprised that he's got the gig.  

It does though speak volumes for all that's gone wrong at Anfield: Liverpool are no longer a club that is going to attract the very top managers.  

They are currently a club in decline and will be until Hicks and Gillett finally manage to sell up to some Arab back by sovereign wealth.   They'll not finish back amongst the Top 4 next season.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: BannedUserIAT on June 30, 2010, 05:08:50 AM
Quote from: "TaxDodger"
This is going to make it slightly harder to dislike them. Only slightly mind.


I now view Liverpool as a steaming pile of dog turd.....with some chocwut spwinkles on top.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on June 30, 2010, 07:51:18 AM
A bad move.

This will end in tears.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: BannedUserIAT on June 30, 2010, 07:59:18 AM
I don't know about that.If Liverpool struggle it'll be because if the financial predicament that their chairmen have put them in.

They've offloaded a bloke who thought that Spanish talent could make up the bulk of the side and who thought Keane and Barry would be the final pieces in the puzzle, and in his place a man who can intelligently build a team.

I'd be interested to know what they've promised him in the way transfer funds.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Mazrim on June 30, 2010, 08:05:48 AM
They needed a guy to do well with meagre resources. They now have that I think.

At least one of their top players will be off though and possibly both. It will be hard for him to compete. I think he's an overseer to keep them competitive and stable until they find a new owner.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 30, 2010, 08:10:10 AM
I suggest that Woy now looks at adding extra security for his house :)
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Mazrim on June 30, 2010, 08:22:35 AM
Quote from: "villa `cross the mersey"
I suggest that Woy now looks at adding extra security for his house :)


Emile Heskey is a big lad. He'd look after the place and maybe play a few games for him.
Say, £6m? England centre forward and former Anfield hero you know...
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: derek.anon on June 30, 2010, 08:39:37 AM
A steady hand to get them through the crap Gillette and Hicks have put them in. I give him a couple of years at best if a sale is done.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: supertom on June 30, 2010, 08:42:45 AM
What odds on Zamora playing for Liverpool? I'm also pretty sure Hangelaand will bo on the shopping list now. They need an imposing CB. Also wouldn't be surprised if Woy cashed in on Reina and bought in Schwarzer.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: SteveN on June 30, 2010, 08:57:05 AM
If he does go suggests to me he might have heard that Capello will be staying on as England manager.

Shame, I like Hodgson, it will make it just a little harder to enjoy Liverpool's decline.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: tepavilla on June 30, 2010, 09:05:37 AM
What we can expect is Pool to break the all time "most scoreless draws in a season"-record. This guy doesn't care if his team scores or not, as long as they don't concede any
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: john e on June 30, 2010, 09:06:15 AM
good manager,
 Liverpool are in better hands now,
which is unfortunate for us
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: john e on June 30, 2010, 09:07:58 AM
thats if he goes of coarse.
with the uncertainty of th England manager, he might stick around for that,or at least have something in his contract
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: E I Adio on June 30, 2010, 09:10:00 AM
Hodgson is a likeable, intelligent, almost affable character and his record as a manager is excellent. I think that he will do well at Liverpool. Unfortunately.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Brend'Watkins on June 30, 2010, 09:20:43 AM
If I were him the first thing I would do in the job is off load Torres for as much as possible.  He just doesn't look half the player he was and shows no signs of improvement.  

I think Hodgson's  appointment is as good as Liverpool could expect.  They need stability and experience, he'll give them that but not much more hopefully.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Merv on June 30, 2010, 09:33:21 AM
I fear a bit for Hodgson here; a nice guy and a good coach and I can't blame him for wanting one last crack with a really big club but the expectations will be ramped up a couple of notches and I hope he can cope.

On the downside for us, it could well scupper Sidwell's transfer to Fulham, as he was reportedly waiting on Hodgson's future to be confirmed first. :(
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: placeforparks on June 30, 2010, 10:01:11 AM
sidwell to replace gerrard????
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: E I Adio on June 30, 2010, 10:01:31 AM
Quote from: "Merv"
I fear a bit for Hodgson here; a nice guy and a good coach and I can't blame him for wanting one last crack with a really big club but the expectations will be ramped up a couple of notches and I hope he can cope.

On the downside for us, it could well scupper Sidwell's transfer to Fulham, as he was reportedly waiting on Hodgson's future to be confirmed first. :(


It is easy to underestimate Hodgson. He's an intelligent manager who speaks 5 languages, has managed quite a few big clubs including Inter and Udinese as well as several Scandinavian clubs, usually with a great deal of success. Amazingly, he also took the Swiss national side to the last 16 of the '94 World Cup, so I think he probably copes with pressure quite well. I would have liked to see him at VP.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 30, 2010, 10:05:10 AM
I suppose he will go for Hangeland now..


Torres out ,Zamora in would be fantastic thou ;-))
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Merv on June 30, 2010, 10:14:45 AM
Quote from: "E I Adio"
It is easy to underestimate Hodgson. He's an intelligent manager who speaks 5 languages, has managed quite a few big clubs including Inter and Udinese as well as several Scandinavian clubs, usually with a great deal of success. Amazingly, he also took the Swiss national side to the last 16 of the '94 World Cup, so I think he probably copes with pressure quite well. I would have liked to see him at VP.


I know all about his CV so I'm certainly not underestimating him. He's got a massive job on at Liverpool though and his first big test will be resolving the futures of Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano: for all his coaching ability, will Hodgson be a big enough name to satisfy those players that he's worth at Liverpool for? I wish him all the best because he's one of those guys you (well, I, at least) like to see succeed.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Mazrim on June 30, 2010, 10:18:55 AM
This is the first time I dont wish him well. I hope they plummet out of the league. After they did, I would feel sympathy for him though.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 30, 2010, 10:27:31 AM
Most Liverpoop fans wanted a sexier name. What the fook does that mean?

Megan Fox managing the fooking team...  ;-o
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: TheTimVilla on June 30, 2010, 10:39:23 AM
Quote from: "E I Adio"
Hodgson is a likeable, intelligent, almost affable character and his record as a manager is excellent. I think that he will do well at Liverpool. Unfortunately.


I agree. However, I still want to know his views on their best players: Towwes, Gewward, Maschewano, Cawwagher, Weina...
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Guy M on June 30, 2010, 11:02:12 AM
I called this when I saw how much he was praising Liverpool as a club before their respective Europa League semi-finals, saying how much he'd love to face them, a big club with history, tradition blah blah blah.

Poor Fulham, he was lining himself up for the job before the three biggest matches in their club's history.

I'm going to cling to that when I want him to do poorly next season.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Dr Butler on June 30, 2010, 11:08:30 AM
Roy will have the usual "honeymoon period" but the foul stench that surrounds Liverpoo will take over again.

Hodgson seems like a good manager and man and certainly does not deserve that shit team/club.

UTV
The Doc
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: supertom on June 30, 2010, 11:58:06 AM
I could quite easily see Hodgson offloading a few of Rafa's flops, and raising a solid 50 mill for transfers. He'd probably spend that money wisely too. Torres may be offloaded too, which could fund 3 quality players alone. Wouldn't surprise me, if Woy did businss quickly, and put in a bid for Milner himself.

I'm a little worried to be honest, because I don't see us finishing above Liverpool again, and I also don't see us finishing above City or Spurs next season, as things stand.

Work to be done.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Irish villain on June 30, 2010, 12:06:18 PM
Hodgson is a wiley old fox. He will do well there. He will probably get them back to basics and will build a better team spirit.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: PaulTheVillan on June 30, 2010, 12:46:29 PM
What I liked about Hodgson with the World Cup coverage was Linker and all them BBC lot saying England will play a Diamond and old Roy said they wouldn't and everyone said he was wrong.

He was spot on.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Villa'Zawg on June 30, 2010, 02:00:29 PM
(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/georgesewell/XabiLaugh.jpg)

Alonso...so having replaced me with Lucas, they're now going to appoint Roy Hodgson as manager and replace Fernando with Zamora...

Puyol... and this was Stevie when he heard...*cue hysterics
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 30, 2010, 02:22:37 PM
Wasn't one of the conditions of Sidwell moving to Fulham Hodgson would still be there?
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 30, 2010, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Wasn't one of the conditions of Sidwell moving to Fulham Hodgson would still be there?


So it was rumoured.

Shame. Maybe Woy will want him at Liverpool. Probably not, mind, as he's one of the few less effective midfielders than Lucas around.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Lucky Eddie on June 30, 2010, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: "placeforparks"
sidwell to replace gerrard????


straight swap?
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: TheSandman on June 30, 2010, 04:32:29 PM
I like him and it makes them harder to dislike. Harder, not impossible. I think it could damage his reputation severely as the circumstances there are difficult to work with.

If I was him I'd possibly sell Gerrard, Torres and Mascherano and bring in a number of new players who could be cornerstones of the team.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: sfx412 on June 30, 2010, 04:38:28 PM
some cv and Manager of the Year. Be nice if our manager had a cv anything like :)

BUT is he a Liverpool manager. They are used to inspirational figures even the quiet ones came with a Liverpool heritage. He isn't one to grab the limelight and Liverpool's managers have to have that as part of their makeup. Wonder how he'll cope with Sir A

Is he a stop gap until the club is sold there to bring about the transition and sort out the mess the clubs in, I wonder. He'll do that but take them to the top of the Prem, unlikely, would even doubt they will make top 4.

If he does take the job it makes Capello's job more secure and O'Neills, unless he fancies Fulham to be nearer home
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Concrete John on June 30, 2010, 04:41:05 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
If I was him I'd possibly sell Gerrard, Torres and Mascherano and bring in a number of new players who could be cornerstones of the team.


I think the selling will be done for him and he'll just have to get what he can with whatever he's allowed to spend of the incoming money.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: curiousorange on June 30, 2010, 04:47:48 PM
Oh well, guess that's open season on Roy Hodgson from the tabloids.

The annoying thing is that I think he'll steady a sinking ship.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: SPENTFORCE on June 30, 2010, 04:52:45 PM
I wish the FA would nip in quick and sign him up. Anything to thwart the threat of Redknapp running the national team
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Concrete John on June 30, 2010, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: "SPENTFORCE"
I wish the FA would nip in quick and sign him up. Anything to thwart the threat of Redknapp running the national team


Don't think it'll make any difference as I expect them to stick with Capello!
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 30, 2010, 05:43:36 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Wasn't one of the conditions of Sidwell moving to Fulham Hodgson would still be there?


So it was rumoured.

Shame. Maybe Woy will want him at Liverpool. Probably not, mind, as he's one of the few less effective midfielders than Lucas around.

Well considering his best contribution of the season was as a ball boy, I some how don't see it. Saying that, if Hodgson was stupid enough to want him at Fulham..
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: SPENTFORCE on June 30, 2010, 06:11:16 PM
Quote from: "John M"
Quote from: "SPENTFORCE"
I wish the FA would nip in quick and sign him up. Anything to thwart the threat of Redknapp running the national team


Don't think it'll make any difference as I expect them to stick with Capello!


If its a straight choice between Fabio and Harry I sincerely hope they do stick rather than twist
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Apyadg on June 30, 2010, 07:48:46 PM
As a Villa fan, and someone who doesn't give a toss about England, I'm hoping  the opposite, Spentforce.

Like or hate Harry, he's done a bloody good job at Spurs, it'd be great for us if he went for the England job.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 30, 2010, 08:52:37 PM
Good luck to Woy he'll need it.
It'll make things interesting maybe
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 01, 2010, 09:33:49 AM
£5 million to £12 million to spend for Roy..


He better sell Torres to us then..
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Concrete John on July 01, 2010, 09:39:16 AM
I do wonder how their foreign stars will react to a having a more pragmatic English manager?
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Chris Harte on July 01, 2010, 10:08:58 AM
I like Hodgson as a manager but I hope it goes spectacularly wrong for him on Merseyside.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 01, 2010, 10:12:33 AM
Danny Murphy first signing?       ;-))
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: supertom on July 01, 2010, 10:16:23 AM
Quote from: "JUAN PABLO"
Danny Murphy first signing?       ;-))


They could do far worse to be fair though. I'd take Murphy over Lucas any day of the week. :)
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Brend'Watkins on July 01, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
With the Liverpool job comes expectation.  This wasn't the case at Fulham where avoiding the drop is the managerial requirement.  Hodgson did this in some style which allowed the team to be more expressive as the pressure was never really there.  That's is not meant to decry Hodgson's achievements but to put it in the perspective that managing without that pressure is somewhat easier.  From the off, 4th spot will be the minimum requirement with a Liverpool squad possibly without Torres and Gerrard who could only take that squad to 7th last term.  It's a big ask when you see what Man City are setting out to do, what Spurs are trying to maintain and what we to a lesser extent want to be part of too.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Concrete John on July 01, 2010, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: "Bren_d"
With the Liverpool job comes expectation.  This wasn't the case at Fulham where avoiding the drop is the managerial requirement.  Hodgson did this in some style which allowed the team to be more expressive as the pressure was never really there.  That's is not meant to decry Hodgson's achievements but to put it in the perspective that managing without that pressure is somewhat easier.  From the off, 4th spot will be the minimum requirement with a Liverpool squad possibly without Torres and Gerrard who could only take that squad to 7th last term.  It's a big ask when you see what Man City are setting out to do, what Spurs are trying to maintain and what we to a lesser extent want to be part of too.


It should be an interesting race for the top 4 next season!

I expect Liverpool to start well under Hodgson, as most clubs do with the lift a new man in charge brings, although whether they can maintain that will be the key for them.  Spurs have to balance the CL campaign for the first time and it remains to be seen if they can attract the better class of player they will now what/need.  Man City will be strong contenders again with all their money, whereas Man U don't seen to have anything to spend, so might be more vulnerable than usual.  Chelsea also need new blood as they're an aging side.  Arsenal are the only top 4 regular I'd be confident will be stronger than last season.

I can see it being quite open at the top in 2010/2011.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: eastie on July 01, 2010, 11:04:50 AM
Just seen Liverpool are back in training too-where is mon, when are we back in training and what is the new kit?

The silence around villa park is deafening
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Concrete John on July 01, 2010, 11:09:28 AM
Quote from: "east19"
Just seen Liverpool are back in training too-where is mon, when are we back in training and what is the new kit?

The silence around villa park is deafening


Don't they play in the Europa qualifying round before us?  If so I'd expect them to be back before we are!
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Dr Butler on July 01, 2010, 01:25:52 PM
and so it starts......

Roy Hodgson when joining Liverpoo - ""it's the biggest job in club football""

tsk...mis-guided fool.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Risso on July 01, 2010, 01:32:17 PM
Quote from: "Dr Butler"
and so it starts......

Roy Hodgson when joining Liverpoo - ""it's the biggest job in club football""

tsk...mis-guided fool.


Saying it's a huge job is correct, trying to return that shambles of a club to former glories is a Herculean task.  It doesn't mean it's the biggest club in football.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Dr Butler on July 01, 2010, 01:39:30 PM
Quote from: "Risso"
Quote from: "Dr Butler"
and so it starts......

Roy Hodgson when joining Liverpoo - ""it's the biggest job in club football""

tsk...mis-guided fool.


Saying it's a huge job is correct, trying to return that shambles of a club to former glories is a Herculean task.  It doesn't mean it's the biggest club in football.


Ahhh ! I assumed he meant it the other way. I stand corrected. :-)
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Lucky Eddie on July 01, 2010, 03:27:39 PM
I like the way he got 'Englands most successful club' in there.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: not3bad on July 01, 2010, 05:36:24 PM
Quote from: "Lucky Eddie"
I like the way he got 'Englands most successful club' in there.


Winding Fergie up already then.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: sfx412 on July 01, 2010, 06:30:42 PM
I thought he gave a sensible and very wise council during his first press interview, Liverpool fans won't understand what's going on. He avoided all the trick questions, I loved when asked about joining the biggest club in the world he tactfully mentioned he'd managed Milan and was still a close friend of their Chairman so it would be trite to say so, but Liverpool remained up there as as big a club, Nice one.

He also mentioned when asked if he expected to get first in the PL that he hopes he can, is glad Liverpool fans have such ambition but no sane manager would predict he'd guarantee it.

I'm glad I have as a Villa fan the same ambition and not just saying I'm happy with 6th because I know that's the best my current manager is likely to achieve.

I wish him luck but can't see it working while their ownership is in flux or even after .
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Monty on July 01, 2010, 06:53:39 PM
Quote from: "John M"
I do wonder how their foreign stars will react to a having a more pragmatic English manager?


Bit of myth that, John. Can you think of a single more pragmatic tactician in football history than Rafael Benitez?
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 01, 2010, 07:27:24 PM
Quote from: "not3bad"
Quote from: "Lucky Eddie"
I like the way he got 'Englands most successful club' in there.


Winding Fergie up already then.


I can't think of a manager less susceptible to Fergie mindgames.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: PaulTheVillan on July 01, 2010, 08:07:07 PM
Fergie doesn't seem to play the mind games with MON.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 01, 2010, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Fergie doesn't seem to play the mind games with MON.


He hasn't needed to yet.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: mozza on July 01, 2010, 10:08:38 PM
Could be the bloke to put Redscouse back on the map..............

Would have preferred him take the England job
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: chrisf on July 01, 2010, 10:19:52 PM
Quote from: "mozza"
Could be the bloke to put Redscouse back on the map..............

Would have preferred him take the England job


I really don't get the Hodgson thing. "Some CV" and "achievements". He managed Inter for a couple of years then flopped at Blackburn. He's won some Scandanavian championships and trophies. The guy has had 16 (sixteen) jobs in 30 years. Doesn't that tell you something?

A decent cup run with a mediocre side and he's the second coming.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: curiousorange on July 01, 2010, 11:01:28 PM
Quote from: "chrisf"
Quote from: "mozza"
Could be the bloke to put Redscouse back on the map..............

Would have preferred him take the England job


I really don't get the Hodgson thing. "Some CV" and "achievements". He managed Inter for a couple of years then flopped at Blackburn. He's won some Scandanavian championships and trophies. The guy has had 16 (sixteen) jobs in 30 years. Doesn't that tell you something?

A decent cup run with a mediocre side and he's the second coming.


I really hope you've got it nailed with that assessment.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 01, 2010, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: "chrisf"
Quote from: "mozza"
Could be the bloke to put Redscouse back on the map..............

Would have preferred him take the England job


I really don't get the Hodgson thing. "Some CV" and "achievements". He managed Inter for a couple of years then flopped at Blackburn. He's won some Scandanavian championships and trophies. The guy has had 16 (sixteen) jobs in 30 years. Doesn't that tell you something?

A decent cup run with a mediocre side and he's the second coming.


He's a bit like Sir Graham in that he's rarely managed sides who were capable of competing at the top level. He seems to have been relatively successful in most of his jobs.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 01, 2010, 11:30:05 PM
I was listening to Talksport on the way home (I know, I know) and they were talking about this.

The presenters and the callers seemed to be missing the point that it isn't about what sort of manager Liverpool could or should be able to attract.

It is about what sort of manager Liverpool can attract as the Liverpool of 2010 with all the accompanying problems.

I think Hodgson is about as good a manager they could have hoped to attract (and I think he's a good manager) as things are today.

I don't even think MON would have gone there, which probably, if true, says more about Liverpool than it does about us.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Drummond on July 02, 2010, 08:09:06 AM
Quote from: "Mazrim"
This is the first time I dont wish him well. I hope they plummet out of the league. After they did, I would feel sympathy for him though.


Drummond Like This (little thumb emoticon)
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: villaross on July 05, 2010, 06:55:58 AM
Quote
Roy Hodgson is considering making a move for Aston Villa winger Ashley Young as he sets about improving the Liverpool squad following his appointment at Anfield last week.

Reports over the weekend suggest England international Young is among the former Fulham manager’s first targets in the transfer market after he admitted he wants to buy English players with UEFA’s new ‘homegrown’ rules coming into force from August.


Source: Premier League betting blog (http://betting.betfred.com/713/sport-betting-news/hodgson-lines-up-reds-deals/)

F**k off Roy!!!!

He obviously hasn't been at Liverpool quite long enough to realise they haven't got any money and so couldn't get anywhere neat the transfer required to buy Young off us.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: sfx412 on July 05, 2010, 07:15:47 AM
he fits ideally for Liverpools present situation. Whether he remains depends on how that situation resolves and of course his level of success.

Managing Milan was some job on any cv, for such a poorly rated man them and Liverpool on your cv is some achievement as is a Manager of the Year trophy.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Dave on July 05, 2010, 09:37:50 AM
Quote from: "sfx412"
Managing Milan was some job on any cv, for such a poorly rated man them

He wasn't poorly rated at all. In Italy he was seem as an excellent manager after his Switzerland team wiped the floor with Italy the previous year.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Concrete John on July 05, 2010, 09:59:48 AM
Quote from: "Monty"
Quote from: "John M"
I do wonder how their foreign stars will react to a having a more pragmatic English manager?


Bit of myth that, John. Can you think of a single more pragmatic tactician in football history than Rafael Benitez?


I meant more in terms of man mangement than footballing style.  I just can't see him playing up to some of the egos at Anfield.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Concrete John on July 05, 2010, 10:02:14 AM
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Could be the bloke to put Redscouse back on the map..............

Would have preferred him take the England job


I really don't get the Hodgson thing. "Some CV" and "achievements". He managed Inter for a couple of years then flopped at Blackburn. He's won some Scandanavian championships and trophies. The guy has had 16 (sixteen) jobs in 30 years. Doesn't that tell you something?

A decent cup run with a mediocre side and he's the second coming.


He's a bit like Sir Graham in that he's rarely managed sides who were capable of competing at the top level. He seems to have been relatively successful in most of his jobs.


You know, the exact same thing could be said for MON, yet Hodgson was often touted as a replacement by the same people who tend to belittle managing in Scotland and what he did with leicester.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: TheSandman on July 05, 2010, 09:59:59 PM
Quote from: "sfx412"
he fits ideally for Liverpools present situation. Whether he remains depends on how that situation resolves and of course his level of success.

Managing Milan was some job on any cv, for such a poorly rated man them and Liverpool on your cv is some achievement as is a Manager of the Year trophy.


As you keep referring to the Manager of the year award he won I'd like to point out George Burley has two.

I'm full of useless facts like that.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Monty on July 05, 2010, 10:01:13 PM
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "sfx412"
he fits ideally for Liverpools present situation. Whether he remains depends on how that situation resolves and of course his level of success.

Managing Milan was some job on any cv, for such a poorly rated man them and Liverpool on your cv is some achievement as is a Manager of the Year trophy.


As you keep referring to the Manager of the year award he won I'd like to point out George Burley has two.

I'm full of useless facts like that.


Also he managed Inter, not Milan.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: JJ-AV on July 05, 2010, 10:06:37 PM
Ash is exactly what Liverpool need, which is worrying.

His stock has fallen a bit too, so I don't imagine any of the bigger 3 or Citeh would want him at the moment, so Liverpool might see the chance to come calling.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: Des Little on July 05, 2010, 10:07:58 PM
There's no way he'll go there.  Take that to the bank.
Title: 0% Villa - Hodgson to Liverpool
Post by: TheSandman on July 05, 2010, 10:09:17 PM
I can allay your worries by saying it is by common consent they have sod all to spend which is why the quality press link them with players like Danny Murphy who will do a good job but will cost little.

However, I don't doubt Uncle Woy is interested and if they sell one of Torres or Gerrard he'll follow up that interest.
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