Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: TheTimVilla on June 05, 2010, 02:59:58 PM
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: TheTimVilla on June 05, 2010, 02:59:58 PM
Seems he's joined West Ham on a 3 year deal. Good luck to him.
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Post by: KevinGage on June 05, 2010, 03:03:30 PM
Balls.
Would have been quite happy to see him back in the right C&B.
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Post by: UK Redsox on June 05, 2010, 03:08:37 PM
Bugger
I'd have loved to have seen him back at VP.
One of my favourite players of recent years
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Post by: kipeye on June 05, 2010, 03:26:47 PM
Same here. I presume he is still playing midfield although I have not seen anything of him for a while.
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Post by: andrew08 on June 05, 2010, 03:31:42 PM
Well as much I liked him at the time he's a bit Villa 2004 isn't he ?
We're at a much higher level now.
Good luck to him though
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Post by: VillaZogmariner on June 05, 2010, 03:35:25 PM
Good Luck to him, but not good enough for us now.
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Post by: VillaZogmariner on June 05, 2010, 03:38:06 PM
Not yet named on their site (http://www.whufc.com/articles/20100605/club-close-to-signing_2236884_2065134)
Didn't realise he had that many caps though.
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Post by: TaxDodger on June 05, 2010, 03:47:24 PM
Probably would have been a better cover player than Sidwell. Looking forward to giving him a clap when he comes back to Villa Park next season.
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Post by: KevinGage on June 05, 2010, 03:52:03 PM
The West Ham fans will be probably think we're booing him.
We don't have any other chant apart from 'Shoooot!' and that could backfire pretty quickly if we start up with that again.
Agree with TaxDodger, would have been better cover than Sidwell last year and has also played LB for Germany and Stuttgart, so could have potentiall filled in for Warnock too.
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Post by: VillaZogmariner on June 05, 2010, 03:57:35 PM
Reading that statement on the West Ham website reminds me of those Clubcall ads that used to be on Teletext!
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Post by: supertom on June 05, 2010, 04:05:40 PM
Better than Sidwell, probably Coker as well, in as much as he carries a goal threat and can pass a ball straight.
He'd have made a good squad player most certainly. He's improved a lot since leaving us. We need to be looking at signing a really decent player to replace Petrov in the 11, never mind squaddies. In certain areas we need first 11ers to shift some of our current players onto the bench.
Good luck to him though, a good signing for the Hammers. I think he and Parker would work well together.
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Post by: Ads on June 05, 2010, 04:25:06 PM
Can’t say I’ve any great desire to see Houdini back in the Villa side.
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Post by: boboonthecorner on June 05, 2010, 04:27:45 PM
Me neither. Very average player with a good shot.
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Post by: The Man With A Stick on June 05, 2010, 04:42:04 PM
Wonder if he's still got his Birmingham accent?
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Post by: Sarunyu on June 05, 2010, 04:44:20 PM
He also my hero during the time here. Hope he has a good future there with Hammer. Surprise that he not contact us back if he want to return since we are much more better than Hammer.
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Post by: TheSandman on June 05, 2010, 04:44:24 PM
To be fair to him he improved a lot whilst he was in Germany. Was just unfortunate to fall out with the new manager at his club.
Good signing for them I have to say probably would have made a decent squad player for us.
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Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on June 05, 2010, 04:53:37 PM
Quote from: "UK Redsox"
Bugger
I'd have loved to have seen him back at VP.
One of my favourite players of recent years
Count me out. One trick pony who couldn't tackle for shit, I doubt he's got any better in the mean time.
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Post by: PaulTheVillan on June 05, 2010, 05:04:27 PM
Decent signing for West Ham.
I always thought he was decent.
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Post by: eamonn on June 05, 2010, 05:06:53 PM
Bit of a strange one. Is it Avram Grant's first signing in English football? Not sure if he bought anyone at Chelsea or Pompey.
Hitz was a nice fella and all, with a left foot that could indeed open a tin of beans but he struggled to impose himself on games and watching him for Stuttgart over the last couple of years, he doesn't seem to have improved significantly. He's only been at Lazio a few months and it doesn't look like he pulled up any trees there either. Failed to make the German squad for the World Cup too.
A very good move for him but I don't think we're missing out.
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Post by: eamonn on June 05, 2010, 05:11:42 PM
double post
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Post by: richard moore on June 05, 2010, 05:20:12 PM
Quote from: "boboonthecorner"
Me neither. Very average player with a good shot.
Completely agree. Steve Davis + a shot.
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Post by: frank black on June 05, 2010, 05:38:46 PM
One of those players that gets everyone shouting shoot!! No matter how far out he is. Other than his shot, he was pretty naff. Opposition players could walk past him. Last time I saw him play he appears to have improved his passing.
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Post by: Legion on June 05, 2010, 05:42:13 PM
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 05, 2010, 05:45:52 PM
I loved Tommy when he was here, but that could be more an indictment of how we were back then rather than him being anything special.
Haven't seen much of him since he left, but unless he has improved dramatically in that time, I don't think he's be anything more more than a squad player at VP now and would like to think we have moved beyond signing that type of player now.
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Post by: KevinGage on June 05, 2010, 05:57:51 PM
He's no Zidane, but I always thought his distribution was tidy and his overall game decent enough.
Yes he probably did have a tendency to fade in matches. Like most youngsters, in fact.
But I'd say he must have improved that side of his game if he was made captain of his club side and featured regularly for his national side during the time he was away.
There is also the small matter of him actually still following the Villa and coming over to watch us during his free time. Think of some of the tosspots- even the home based ones- who couldn't wait to up sticks and move and never looked back once they were out of the door.
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Post by: Legion on June 05, 2010, 05:59:01 PM
Quote from: "KevinGage"
There is also the small matter of him actually still following the Villa and coming over to watch us during his free time.
I didn't know that. Nice one.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on June 05, 2010, 06:02:35 PM
good lad.
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Post by: Rancid custard on June 05, 2010, 06:04:07 PM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Decent signing for West Ham.
I always thought he was decent.
This.
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Post by: KevinGage on June 05, 2010, 06:04:58 PM
Seen him at the WHam (funnily enough) home match last season.
He was also interviewed soon after MON took over and said he was delighted with the appointment and still watches as many games as he can in Germany.
This was when he was visiting Brum soon after the WC in 2006 IIRC.
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Post by: luke25 on June 05, 2010, 06:15:20 PM
Was directly in line with his last minute belter at the Reebok, stunning goal that still brings a smile
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Post by: frank black on June 05, 2010, 06:29:30 PM
This signing will free up Scott Parker to complete his move to villa and in turn milner to city.
Thought I would get in first before the redtops. ;-) [-(
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Post by: Matt C on June 05, 2010, 06:36:29 PM
Good luck to him but never thought he was quick enough to play central midfield in the PL.
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Post by: eamonn on June 05, 2010, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: "TimVilla"
Seems he's joined West Ham on a 3 year deal. Good luck to him.
Have you got a link to the story? Can't see 'owt on t'beeb. You wouldn't lie, would you?
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Post by: mjlions on June 05, 2010, 06:39:08 PM
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Post by: SoccerHQ on June 05, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
I'll be giving him a clap when he returns next season.
How long before he has a cockney twang?
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Post by: TheTimVilla on June 05, 2010, 08:36:10 PM
Quote from: "Legion"
Quote from: "KevinGage"
There is also the small matter of him actually still following the Villa and coming over to watch us during his free time.
I didn't know that. Nice one.
After he'd broken in to the first team, he still went to watch reserve matches. I'm sure he's a Villa fan and that he had a Box at Villa. I certainly remember his friends & family (there were about 40 of them) in the Targett Suite a few years back.
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Seems he's joined West Ham on a 3 year deal. Good luck to him.
Have you got a link to the story? Can't see 'owt on t'beeb. You wouldn't lie, would you?
If I were to make up a story it would involve aliens, armageddon or acrobats. Or a combination thereof.
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Post by: Guy M on June 05, 2010, 11:36:50 PM
On a free, I'd absolutely definitely have taken him. Will be gutted to see him playing for them in their (poor) imitation of our kit.
Lost his way recently, but I doubt his international career is over and could most certainly have done a job for us as a squad player.
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Post by: Summers on June 05, 2010, 11:43:05 PM
Actually rather angry we didn't go in for him. Small squad, losing players (including NRC and/or Sidwell) and we didn't go for Hitz? Ridiculous.
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Post by: Ads on June 06, 2010, 12:20:30 AM
I think you’re way off the mark. I don’t see him as any better or influential than NRC or Sidwell. In fact he and Sidwell must be card carrying members of the Magic Circle, their disappearing acts were so good.
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Post by: usav on June 06, 2010, 12:24:04 AM
Quote from: "andrew08"
Well as much I liked him at the time he's a bit Villa 2004 isn't he ?
We're at a much higher level now.
Good luck to him though
Nailed.
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Post by: Greg N'Ash on June 06, 2010, 03:15:03 AM
He's a much better player than when he was with us. See also crouch/cole. good luck to him and i think he'll do well
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Post by: BannedUserIAT on June 06, 2010, 03:50:53 AM
Funny how people accept that we can improve as a team yet a player cannot improve over the same time period.
Good luck to him and I hope he gets a fantastic reception at Villa Park.
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Post by: eamonn on June 06, 2010, 05:18:00 AM
He was/is an affable fella with an affection for his former club that sadly isn't common among players nowadays.
Wonder what Sendo thinks.
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Post by: bobcat on June 06, 2010, 07:47:09 AM
He scored the last minute winner against the baggies on my birthday in 2002.
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Post by: Chris Smith on June 06, 2010, 08:45:42 AM
Good player but not right for a team with our ambitions.
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Post by: pestria on June 06, 2010, 08:54:02 AM
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Good player but not right for a team with our ambitions.
Dunno - he's plenty good enough for upper mid table.
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Post by: VillaZogmariner on June 06, 2010, 09:16:11 AM
Quote from: "pestria"
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Good player but not right for a team with our ambitions.
Dunno - he's plenty good enough for upper mid table.
That is true, but surely our ambitions are a little higher?
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Post by: Chris Smith on June 06, 2010, 09:17:30 AM
Quote from: "pestria"
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Good player but not right for a team with our ambitions.
Dunno - he's plenty good enough for upper mid table.
Do you honestly think that Randy and MON's ambition is for us to be a mid table team?
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Post by: Legion on June 06, 2010, 09:17:47 AM
Lower top table?
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Post by: Bottom Right 89 on June 06, 2010, 10:26:10 AM
Premier League without the Sky 4 runners up?
Hitzlsperger is a much better player now not that he was bad for us - he's played champions league and think he played in the Euro 2008 final for Germany? At 28 he's probably still got a bit more left in the tank surely a player with his experience would only improve our current shot shy team must be looking at similar type of players this transfer window - maybe this means Diamanti is surplus at West Ham?
Thanks Legion for putting the blues goal on - he picked me out for a bear in the celebrations followed by a pile on by the rest of the team, I can still hear Lee Hendries industrial languauge ringing in my ears!
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Post by: Dave on June 06, 2010, 10:36:46 AM
Quote from: "Ads"
I think you’re way off the mark. I don’t see him as any better or influential than NRC or Sidwell. In fact he and Sidwell must be card carrying members of the Magic Circle, their disappearing acts were so good.
If he were the same player who left us then true enough. But he's now much better than that.
On a free transfer he would have been an excellent addition to the squad.
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Post by: kipeye on June 06, 2010, 10:49:21 AM
Players improve all the time-sometimes due to innate talent and sometimes to good coaching or players around them. We have had a number of players that we have let go who have continued to get better & we have also dumped a few who were just never that good. The exceptions are players like Dunne (and God before him) who have never been given the recognition and just need the right kind of team or manager. Whatever the situation is is notoriously difficult to predict, but funnily enough, a lot of the fans turn out to be consistently right about the bad 'uns to buy or sell. Marlon etc. Milner will continue to improve as will Collins and a few others. Ash improved a lot then seemed to stand still-this happens, but it can be worked on. Keep our best players and make them world class.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on June 06, 2010, 11:30:39 AM
I loved Tommy back in the day. And he may well have improved. But you have to ask yourself, if he's good enough for a better team, why didn't a better team than West Ham (anywhere in Europe, especially Germany) sign him?
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Post by: cdbearsfan on June 06, 2010, 11:32:05 AM
Good luck Tommy. Will feel weird hearing him talk German-Cockney though.
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Post by: TelfordVilla on June 06, 2010, 11:45:32 AM
If money is tight, doesnt it make sence to pick up a German International midfielder on a free transfer and ship out an unused sub like NRC or Sidwell. No doubt in my mind Hitz wouldve been an asset to our shot shy team never mind the bench. We need to use all players available not just the starting 11. Bringing on a goal scoring threat like Hitz instead of the tumbling bear wouldve given some hope of a goal towards the end of a nil-nil at least. Watch him do just that for Wetspam at Villa Park this season !!!!!!
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Post by: LeeB on June 06, 2010, 11:53:43 AM
Nice kid, could hit a football as well as anyone, but he was a fucking shit central midfield player.
I'm convinced he's only got a far as he has because of that shot, the rest of his game isn't up to standard.
I'm growing ever more puzzled by this board as every day passes. Pages of posts wishing a good manager out of the door, and yet more bemoaning us not picking up a player who wasn't good enough 6 years ago, when we were shit, who's ended up at West Ham.
Are you all pining for 2004 or something?
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 06, 2010, 12:13:09 PM
I've no idea if he's improved since he left us or not, but he was a nice chap and I hope he does well at West Ham.
This pining for 2004 thing, here's hoping we don't sign Carlton Cole this summer.
Pinetastic.
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Post by: Irish villain on June 06, 2010, 12:17:41 PM
Tommy is probably around his peak now...best of luck to him. He was one of the best things about that side during a pretty dire period for the club!
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Post by: Legion on June 06, 2010, 12:19:07 PM
I thought he was great. I wish him well at West Ham apart from when they play us.
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Post by: LeeB on June 06, 2010, 12:23:53 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
I've no idea if he's improved since he left us or not, but he was a nice chap and I hope he does well at West Ham.
This pining for 2004 thing, here's hoping we don't sign Carlton Cole this summer.
Pinetastic.
Vassel could be availiable. I think he and Carlton could be the front pair we've been missing.
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Post by: TaxDodger on June 06, 2010, 12:59:20 PM
Quote from: "LeeB"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
I've no idea if he's improved since he left us or not, but he was a nice chap and I hope he does well at West Ham.
This pining for 2004 thing, here's hoping we don't sign Carlton Cole this summer.
Pinetastic.
Vassel could be availiable. I think he and Carlton could be the front pair we've been missing.
I actually remember thinking this after the first day of the 2004/5 season.
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Post by: Greg N'Ash on June 06, 2010, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
I've no idea if he's improved since he left us or not, but he was a nice chap and I hope he does well at West Ham.
This pining for 2004 thing, here's hoping we don't sign Carlton Cole this summer.
Pinetastic.
Its not pining really, its just recognition that some ex-players have improved. if he was the same player as when he played for us i wouldn't touch him with a bargepole but he isn't. Just like i wouldn't touch the on loan version of milner in 2010
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Post by: usav on June 06, 2010, 02:20:07 PM
Lazio didn't think he had improved that much, he only played about 6 games for them - and they were shite last year.
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Post by: Summers on June 06, 2010, 02:37:18 PM
He's much better overall as a player now. Recognized German international, still has a cracking shot, and much better than Sidwell. He'd of improved the squad easily, and as stated, help us improve on the fact we barely ever shoot.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 06, 2010, 02:40:12 PM
Maybe Martin didn't realise he had PL experience.
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Post by: LeeB on June 06, 2010, 04:20:03 PM
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Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
I've no idea if he's improved since he left us or not, but he was a nice chap and I hope he does well at West Ham.
This pining for 2004 thing, here's hoping we don't sign Carlton Cole this summer.
Pinetastic.
Its not pining really, its just recognition that some ex-players have improved. if he was the same player as when he played for us i wouldn't touch him with a bargepole but he isn't. Just like i wouldn't touch the on loan version of milner in 2010
We'd have gone down without Milner that season.
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Post by: LeeB on June 06, 2010, 04:23:55 PM
He must have really improved, what with being fucked off by Stuttgart halfway through the season on a free, then spending 6 months at a poor Lazio before being again shown the door, then finally left out of the worst German squad for a long time, despite Ballack being crippled.
Just what we needed. Damn.
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Post by: Chris Smith on June 06, 2010, 04:24:45 PM
Quote from: "gregnash"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
I've no idea if he's improved since he left us or not, but he was a nice chap and I hope he does well at West Ham.
This pining for 2004 thing, here's hoping we don't sign Carlton Cole this summer.
Pinetastic.
Its not pining really, its just recognition that some ex-players have improved. if he was the same player as when he played for us i wouldn't touch him with a bargepole but he isn't. Just like i wouldn't touch the on loan version of milner in 2010
Seen a lot of him recently have you?
the amount of experts we have on here on every player in world football you do wonder how people have time for stuff like eating and having a shit.
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Post by: Greg N'Ash on June 06, 2010, 04:53:42 PM
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "gregnash"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
I've no idea if he's improved since he left us or not, but he was a nice chap and I hope he does well at West Ham.
This pining for 2004 thing, here's hoping we don't sign Carlton Cole this summer.
Pinetastic.
Its not pining really, its just recognition that some ex-players have improved. if he was the same player as when he played for us i wouldn't touch him with a bargepole but he isn't. Just like i wouldn't touch the on loan version of milner in 2010
Seen a lot of him recently have you?
the amount of experts we have on here on every player in world football you do wonder how people have time for stuff like eating and having a shit.
i'm not really that bothered about him chris, but i do find it a bit odd that a 28 year old 50 cap german international who played in all their wc games, has won more than most of our players and who's available on a free is deemed by you not good enough for us currently, and yet you spend all your time on here defending total bobbins like Heskey, Sidwell, Harewood, Davies etc.,who are (apparently). its almost as if you form opinions on players solely on who buys them........ :0)
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Post by: Chris Smith on June 06, 2010, 05:05:19 PM
Quote from: "gregnash"
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "gregnash"
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
I've no idea if he's improved since he left us or not, but he was a nice chap and I hope he does well at West Ham.
This pining for 2004 thing, here's hoping we don't sign Carlton Cole this summer.
Pinetastic.
Its not pining really, its just recognition that some ex-players have improved. if he was the same player as when he played for us i wouldn't touch him with a bargepole but he isn't. Just like i wouldn't touch the on loan version of milner in 2010
Seen a lot of him recently have you?
the amount of experts we have on here on every player in world football you do wonder how people have time for stuff like eating and having a shit.
i'm not really that bothered about him chris, but i do find it a bit odd that a 28 year old 50 cap german international who played in all their wc games, has won more than most of our players and who's available on a free is deemed by you not good enough for us currently, and yet you spend all your time on here defending total bobbins like Heskey, Sidwell, Harewood, Davies etc.,who are (apparently). its almost as if you form opinions on players solely on who buys them........ :0)
Are you sure he played in all of their WC games or is that one of your invented facts? Seems odd if he did that he's not in the squad now. He isn't good enough to get in our first team and I doubt that at this stage of his career he'd be willing to sit on our bench.
If you're not bothered why did you contribute to the thread? It's almost as if you're making a comment without giving it any thought. Surely not.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 06, 2010, 05:09:07 PM
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Are you sure he played in all of their WC games or is that one of your invented facts? Seems odd if he did that he's not in the squad now.
He played in all but one of their qualifying games apparently. His omission from the finals squad is probably because he has only played five games since moving to Lazio in January.
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Post by: Chris Smith on June 06, 2010, 05:13:26 PM
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Are you sure he played in all of their WC games or is that one of your invented facts? Seems odd if he did that he's not in the squad now.
He played in all but one of their qualifying games apparently. His omission from the finals squad is probably because he has only played five games since moving to Lazio in January.
So bombed out of Stuttgart and failed to impress at Lazio, hardly a ringing endorsement is it?
As I said at the start, he's decent but not for us at this time.
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Post by: Greg N'Ash on June 06, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
played in all but one of their games according to the bbc. and i contributed because i'm pleased he's getting a new start and wished him well but as usual the MON paranoia "bat signal" went off and here you are in case there's a hint of criticism aimed at your idol. false alarm chris. :0)
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Post by: Greg N'Ash on June 06, 2010, 05:17:32 PM
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Are you sure he played in all of their WC games or is that one of your invented facts? Seems odd if he did that he's not in the squad now.
He played in all but one of their qualifying games apparently. His omission from the finals squad is probably because he has only played five games since moving to Lazio in January.
So bombed out of Stuttgart and failed to impress at Lazio, hardly a ringing endorsement is it?
As I said at the start, he's decent but not for us at this time.
your right there, its almost like if robbie keane was german.
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Post by: Summers on June 06, 2010, 05:19:52 PM
The new manager was the reason Hitz was forced out of Stuttgart.. before that he was club captain. Sometimes managers just don't fancy a player.
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Post by: Chris Smith on June 06, 2010, 06:59:45 PM
Quote from: "gregnash"
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "hilts_coolerking"
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Are you sure he played in all of their WC games or is that one of your invented facts? Seems odd if he did that he's not in the squad now.
He played in all but one of their qualifying games apparently. His omission from the finals squad is probably because he has only played five games since moving to Lazio in January.
So bombed out of Stuttgart and failed to impress at Lazio, hardly a ringing endorsement is it?
As I said at the start, he's decent but not for us at this time.
your right there, its almost like if robbie keane was german.
So you now accept that Keane and Redkapp fell out, that's a start at least. However, his time at Celtic was surely more of a success that Hitz at Lazio. Not that it has any bearing on anything but since when did that bother you.
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Post by: Clampy on June 06, 2010, 08:00:08 PM
I hope he does very well at West Ham too. Not sure if he was the player we wanted at this moment in time though.
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Post by: TelfordVilla on June 06, 2010, 08:12:56 PM
i'm not really that bothered about him chris, but i do find it a bit odd that a 28 year old 50 cap german international who played in all their wc games, has won more than most of our players and who's available on a free is deemed by you not good enough for us currently, and yet you spend all your time on here defending total bobbins like Heskey, Sidwell, Harewood, Davies etc.,who are (apparently). its almost as if you form opinions on players solely on who buys them........ :0)[/quote]
OMG........I agree 100% with something Gregnash said....I need a drink. #-o
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Post by: Mac on June 06, 2010, 08:47:25 PM
Quote from: "Summers"
The new manager was the reason Hitz was forced out of Stuttgart.. before that he was club captain. Sometimes managers just don't fancy a player.
Like DOL, who ignored Hitz until ge signed a pre-contract agreement with Stutgart.
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Post by: Summers on June 06, 2010, 10:16:03 PM
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The new manager was the reason Hitz was forced out of Stuttgart.. before that he was club captain. Sometimes managers just don't fancy a player.
Like DOL, who ignored Hitz until ge signed a pre-contract agreement with Stutgart.
Exactly, and at the time, I'm sure most of us wanted Hitz to stay, I know I did.
We've improved, he's improved. Deffo someone we shoulda been looking at.
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: Greg N'Ash on June 07, 2010, 12:16:44 AM
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Are you sure he played in all of their WC games or is that one of your invented facts? Seems odd if he did that he's not in the squad now.
He played in all but one of their qualifying games apparently. His omission from the finals squad is probably because he has only played five games since moving to Lazio in January.
So bombed out of Stuttgart and failed to impress at Lazio, hardly a ringing endorsement is it?
As I said at the start, he's decent but not for us at this time.
your right there, its almost like if robbie keane was german.
So you now accept that Keane and Redkapp fell out, that's a start at least. However, his time at Celtic was surely more of a success that Hitz at Lazio. Not that it has any bearing on anything but since when did that bother you.
i don't accept anything. by bombed out i took it to mean "let go," so yes he was let go by stuggart just like keane was let go by liverpool and will shortly be "let go" by spurs. and lets face it lazio is several steps or even a loft ladder up from celtic. I just think pedigree wise (bundesliga titles etc) Hitz is far far ahead of keane who has always failed to make the grade at even top 4 sides, but somehow you think he's the better bet?
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: sendô WHU on June 07, 2010, 08:54:02 AM
I'm fairly happy with this signing. Haven't seen a lot of the fella, but I remember him being decent enough for you lot way back when, and he's had more than a few German caps since then. For the money involved, and considering how shit we were last season, he represents a good signing for us, and he might well strike up a healthy competition with Diamanti over who can spank one in from the furthest out.
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: BannedUserIAT on June 07, 2010, 09:20:03 AM
Agent Hammer. Come in Agent Hammer.
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: Concrete John on June 07, 2010, 09:36:15 AM
Quote from: "sendô WHU"
I'm fairly happy with this signing. Haven't seen a lot of the fella, but I remember him being decent enough for you lot way back when, and he's had more than a few German caps since then. For the money involved, and considering how shit we were last season, he represents a good signing for us, and he might well strike up a healthy competition with Diamanti over who can spank one in from the furthest out.
I always rated him, Sendo, and was gutted when he left. I always said he was an average footballer with a cracking shot, which was great for us at the time and made him a crowd favourite. I've not seen too much of him since then, but the player that left us is not really going to add much to the side we are now. I'd say he's solid enough for a decent mid-table side, but that's about it. You're going to enjoy the goals, though!!
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: Risso on June 07, 2010, 09:39:19 AM
Quote from: "sendô WHU"
I'm fairly happy with this signing. Haven't seen a lot of the fella, but I remember him being decent enough for you lot way back when, and he's had more than a few German caps since then. For the money involved, and considering how shit we were last season, he represents a good signing for us, and he might well strike up a healthy competition with Diamanti over who can spank one in from the furthest out.
He's remembered quite fondly amongst most Villa fans, obviously for his ability to blast one in from miles out. Apart from that, I didn't think there was an awful lot to his game, and he went missing an awful lot of the time. I haven't seen enough of him since to see how he's progressed, but he was a nice lad, and it's a shame that he's ended up at a horrible club like West Ham (no offence).
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: sendô WHU on June 07, 2010, 09:55:02 AM
Quote from: "Risso"
it's a shame that he's ended up at a horrible club like West Ham (no offence).
We're one of the nicest clubs around Risso, look at how often we play the gracious hosts and let our guest leave with all the points.
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: Dave on June 07, 2010, 10:08:06 AM
Quote from: "sendô WHU"
Quote from: "Risso"
it's a shame that he's ended up at a horrible club like West Ham (no offence).
We're one of the nicest clubs around Risso, look at how often we play the gracious hosts and let our guest leave with all the points.
I don't remember much of that graciousness when we played you last season.
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 07, 2010, 10:14:18 AM
Quote from: "TelfordVilla"
i'm not really that bothered about him chris, but i do find it a bit odd that a 28 year old 50 cap german international who played in all their wc games, has won more than most of our players and who's available on a free is deemed by you not good enough for us currently, and yet you spend all your time on here defending total bobbins like Heskey, Sidwell, Harewood, Davies etc.,who are (apparently). its almost as if you form opinions on players solely on who buys them........ :0)
OMG........I agree 100% with something Gregnash said....I need a drink. #-o[/quote]
spot on post
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 07, 2010, 01:55:03 PM
Fingers crossed for another screamer against the Blues. I wish he hadn't gone there I hate West Fucking ham
Title: Tommy The Hammer is a Hammer
Post by: TheSandman on June 07, 2010, 02:37:42 PM
Hopefully Gollivan will stand in his way when he's doing target practice.