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Title: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on February 16, 2010, 10:43:39 AM
No, it's not a thread that can run, it's for anyone who runs or is interested in running / jogging at any level.

I'll start.....

I've been running now for about 3 years, 2009 being my biggest year to date. Last year I completed two marathons (London and Dublin) and 7 half marathons with a few 10 milers and 10k's in as well.

At present i'm laid up with achilles tendonitis, but I have entered three events this year so far.

1/. Tough Guy - Nettle Warrior - 25/07/10
2/. Bupa Great North Run - 19/09/10
3/. Muller 10k - 09/05/10

I am also planning to enter the Birmingham Black Country Half marathon, as well as 7 or 8 more.

My marathon plans are restricted due to my wife due to give birth 3 days after the cup final (pretty selfish timing on her part) but i'm looking at Pisa or Florence later on in the year.

Anyone else do any running...........
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on February 16, 2010, 12:40:53 PM
Good idea for a thread. I'm just getting started with regular running. Unlucky about the tnedonitis. How long will you be out of action?

I'd say I've been "training" properly since the week before christmas now (3-4 runs a week, following a free-be training program I downloaded from the net). I felt like an old man to start with, but within about 2 weeks I really got into it. Makes a massive difference to how much energy I have, and I never fail to feel better after a run. Except...

... I've had a recent set-back, I think I stepped up the distance too quickly (30mins, to 45 mins to 1hr to  1hr 20 in the space of 3 weeks or so. Bad idea), and as a result have had a problem with my achilles (at the top of the tendon, where it joins the calf muscle). Very frustrating as I'm sure you know. Under doctors orders I took a week off completely, felt terrible about it, but have now started back on a "little and often" basis (20 min runs nearly every night - lots of stretching and warming down etc.) I've just gone back up to 30 mins last sunday, but annoyingly the calfs are still a bit sore at the end of each run. Hopefully not going to have a relapse though!

I am going to be doing the sutton park 10km run on 18th april for a practice race the week before  the half.

There is also apparently a half marathon in birmingham city centre this year, which I saw on the internet but the date is not fixed yet? Anyone know anything about that?


EDIT: You're entering 11 events this year?? Thats quite a schedule. You must be quite a serious runner.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Yossarian on February 16, 2010, 12:52:48 PM
I did my first half marathon last year in one hour forty three which felt good as I beat loads of people who take it all a little too seriously. I think I offended a few egos as I am generally regarded as an overweight, unfit lazy arse. Since then I've pulled out of a couple of races through illness and injury.

My big problem is I get a tightness in my foot that can lead to numbness. I thought it was plantar for a bit but I am certain it's not that as I get it when I am running, not when I wake up. Went for a run earlier and it flaired up again. It really is very frustrating.

I do plan to do the Reading half marathon in a few weeks if I can stay fit.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Yossarian on February 16, 2010, 12:54:15 PM
double post
Title: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on February 16, 2010, 01:04:09 PM
Barton, have you been on a gait analysis machine? You could have pronation problems and a new pair of structured or motion control shoes could helop a lot.

BIKL, I had the same problem when I started running, and i went to a sports physio who diagnosed it as adverse biomechanical issues resulting from previous hamstring tears from football. Basically the hammy was too tight, meaning the calf wasnt stretching as it should, putting pressure on the tendon. Stretches and ice were advised, and after a 3-4 week rest and doing what I was told i have never had it since.

I have never had so many injuries that I now get from running. When marathon training I got a bad cast of IT Band syndrome. It then went into the other leg and I ended up haveing accupuncture - which helped along with new motion controlled shoes.

If you fancy joing up for a few races this year let me know, always nice to have a few beers after a run. I'd def recommend the bbchm (www.bbchm.co.uk) as it is on a Saturday and finishes in Brindley Place!
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Yossarian on February 16, 2010, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: "DBTW"
Barton, have you been on a gait analysis machine? You could have pronation problems and a new pair of structured or motion control shoes could helop a lot.



I did do that. The bloke in the shop, who was really sound, couldn't believe I ran so differently depending on the shoes I wore. I've now got a light pair of shoes to stop me from heal striking first which could be something to do with it. The shoes didn't help this morning mind.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on February 16, 2010, 01:29:50 PM
will definitely check out that website. And finishing a run in bridnley place sounds like a good idea to me!
Title: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on February 16, 2010, 02:13:12 PM
Quote from: "BrummieInKiwiLand"
will definitely check out that website. And finishing a run in bridnley place sounds like a good idea to me!


It's a great run along the canal from Wolverhampton to Brindley Place. There are showers at the end along with bag transport, so we always make a day of it. The course is flat apart from a few bridges, and a really well organised run.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on February 16, 2010, 02:26:27 PM
I just spoke to a mate of mine who did the GNR and london marathon last year. He's signed up for the great north run again, but we're going to enter the BBCHM as well. I read the info, sounds like quite a good route, and just the thing to prevent me from taking too much of a break after the sheffield run. Just hope the legs hold out better from now on.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: N'Rexy on February 16, 2010, 03:15:37 PM
I do a bit myself. I have done 2 X country races so far and am signed up for a couple of 10Ks and then the GNR. I have done that for the last 3 years now and it rocks.

The tendon issues all sound like gait things. Look for an Adidas performance shop. There is one in Brum and go on their gait machine, it sorted me out immediately with a recommendation to wear supporting shoes. No more sore tendons for me.

http://www.adidas.com/conceptstores/content/index.asp?strBrand_adidascom=performance&strCountry_adidascom=uk&country=uk&strLanguage_adidascom=uk&language=uk

I go lunchtimes from work. Its a good stress releiver.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: villa1 on February 16, 2010, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: "DBTW"
No, it's not a thread that can run, it's for anyone who runs or is interested in running / jogging at any level.

I'll start.....

I've been running now for about 3 years, 2009 being my biggest year to date. Last year I completed two marathons (London and Dublin) and 7 half marathons with a few 10 milers and 10k's in as well.

At present i'm laid up with achilles tendonitis, but I have entered three events this year so far.

1/. Tough Guy - Nettle Warrior - 25/07/10
2/. Bupa Great North Run - 19/09/10
3/. Muller 10k - 09/05/10

I am also planning to enter the Birmingham Black Country Half marathon, as well as 7 or 8 more.

My marathon plans are restricted due to my wife due to give birth 3 days after the cup final (pretty selfish timing on her part) but i'm looking at Pisa or Florence later on in the year.

Anyone else do any running...........


I've had achilles tendonitis too. It's a right shitter to get rid of.

I did the Men's Health Survival of the Fittest in October and have only recently started running again.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on February 19, 2010, 04:58:47 PM
Found out today the cause of my achilles problem; my right leg is weak! Apparently, significantly weaker than the left, but only from the knee upwards, which seems strange. Anyway, physios advice is a proper gait analysis on a treadmill, a pair of appropriate trainers (for supination) and strengthening exercises for the gluteal maximus (right buttock) and thigh muscles.

8 weeks til the sutton park 10km and 9 weeks til the sheffield half marathon. Signed up for the BBCHM in july too. Maybe tempting fate a bit!

Hopefully enough time to get back on course before race day!!
Title: The Running thread
Post by: NatP on February 19, 2010, 06:33:01 PM
I've entered my 2nd marathon this year, Stratford upon Avon. Didn't think to check the fixture list.... was gutted to discover it's the same day as we play Small Heath.

Another thumbs up for the BBCHM, have done it the past two years, great race.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: woo on February 23, 2010, 11:10:07 AM
I do 2 or 3 10k's and 1 half Marathon each year so you lot are making me feel really lazy!

My P.B. for a half is 1hr 49 in last years Brum Half Marathon. Fot those that are interested this years Brum Half Marathon is Sunday October 24th.

I haven't had the bottle to commit to a full marathon yet. For those that have done, how hard was it? The thought of having to commit to so much extra training and fit it around villa fixtures\social life\beer\family etc etc is daunting!
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on March 07, 2010, 05:55:39 PM
question for the runners. Does anyone take any vitamin/supplements, or got any opinions/recommendations about them. I'm not talking steroids or anything like that, just regular things you can buy over the counter at the supermarket.

Since i started running 3 months ago i've been taking daily berocca and cod liver oil capsules. Not specifically to improve my running, but just thought it would help in general. i've now cut down on the berocca and started taking Wellman sports 1 a day tablets every other day (i.e only on the days i run) but i'm wondering if its a waste of money. I do feel better, and my achilles held up really well today on my 1st 10km run,  but maybe its all in the mind?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Yossarian on March 21, 2010, 05:08:42 PM
Did the Reading Half Marathon today. Ten minutes slower than last year and a lot more knackered. There is a lot to be said for training. Going to enter the canal one and train properly for it.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: wombat on March 21, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
Doing the Forest of Dean Half next weekend. Still do a lot of running but i've moved on to doing Triathlons more now.

Fastest half marathon 1hr 33, first Brum half a couple of years back. And I was so ill after, I know now thats as quick as i can go and there is no point killing myself!! So I only do off road halfs which are nice and picturesque! Oh and I never enter anything that involves more than 1 lap of the same course!

I do see another marathon on the cards soon tho.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on March 21, 2010, 08:24:12 PM
I missed the first of the 4 races I've entered today (the glamorous-sounding "Dronfield 10km"). Not the best start to my running, but in fairness i did have to work this morning, and I did 14km this afternoon when i got back from work.

I'm still a bit annoyed though to miss the race. More commitment needed - 4 weeks to go til the sheffield half, my race number and microchip tag thing turned up in the post yesterday, a timely kick up the arse!
Title: The Running thread
Post by: russon on March 22, 2010, 07:52:38 AM
advice please -

My head sweats like a pig when I'm running and the sweat runs into my eyes and stings (diddums). Without wearing a Kids From Fame headband or Peter Withe wristbands, what can I do to stop this? Any tricks of the trade out there?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 22, 2010, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from: "russon"
advice please -

My head sweats like a pig when I'm running and the sweat runs into my eyes and stings (diddums). Without wearing a Kids From Fame headband or Peter Withe wristbands, what can I do to stop this? Any tricks of the trade out there?


Strap big sponges to your head.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on March 22, 2010, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: "russon"
advice please -

My head sweats like a pig when I'm running and the sweat runs into my eyes and stings (diddums). Without wearing a Kids From Fame headband or Peter Withe wristbands, what can I do to stop this? Any tricks of the trade out there?


Vaseline on your eyebrows.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Bad English on March 22, 2010, 11:39:04 AM
Spray a can of 'Sure' through a banana leaf onto your forehead, and have a a fit bird in a bikini three sizes too small and a large Bengal tiger follow you round the course.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: wombat on March 22, 2010, 06:11:13 PM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "russon"
advice please -

My head sweats like a pig when I'm running and the sweat runs into my eyes and stings (diddums). Without wearing a Kids From Fame headband or Peter Withe wristbands, what can I do to stop this? Any tricks of the trade out there?


Vaseline on your eyebrows.


yep, that or a lightweight running baseball cap.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: woo on March 23, 2010, 11:15:14 AM
Quote from: "olneythelonely"
Quote from: "russon"
advice please -

My head sweats like a pig when I'm running and the sweat runs into my eyes and stings (diddums). Without wearing a Kids From Fame headband or Peter Withe wristbands, what can I do to stop this? Any tricks of the trade out there?


Vaseline on your eyebrows.


I can vouch for that one as well
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on April 25, 2010, 11:25:59 PM
Just wondering if any H&V posters did the London Marathon today?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: russon on April 26, 2010, 05:54:29 PM
Quote from: "BrummieInKiwiLand"
Just wondering if any H&V posters did the London Marathon today?


No but I toughed out a particularly challenging 35 minute run on a treadmill at Worsull Sports Centre then did 5 mins on the rower. Feel at one now with the Marathon runners except I didn't wear a tutu and fishnet stockings
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on April 26, 2010, 09:08:09 PM
I have just agreed to do the Brighton marathon next year.

I have a year to train and it still seems quite the hard task.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: villa1 on April 26, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: "russon"
advice please -

My head sweats like a pig when I'm running and the sweat runs into my eyes and stings (diddums). Without wearing a Kids From Fame headband or Peter Withe wristbands, what can I do to stop this? Any tricks of the trade out there?


Do you have hair? Do you put all sort of shite in it?

I used to do that and that's what used to sting my eyes when it ran into them.

Now I have stopped using products in my hair, i don't have any problem whatsoever.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on April 26, 2010, 09:22:16 PM
Running is bad for the knees.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: martin on May 04, 2010, 07:04:25 AM
Been running about 6 years now. Do between 60-80kms a week and have done three marathons - all in Japan - a couple of halves and a 10k.

Started off because I was fat and unfit, got thin and fit and carry on because I'm addicted to it and hopelessly vain.

To be honest 'addicted' doesn't neccesarily mean the same as 'enjoy'. Sometimes it bores the shit out of me, especially the 30k prep runs for marathons. It's a kind of compulsion and I get immensely crabby if I miss a couple of days. Used to swim a lot but find the fresh air and the open road beat a couple of hours going up and down with your head immersed in chlorinated water.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: richard moore on May 04, 2010, 08:46:31 AM
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Running is bad for the knees.


As much of a myth Paul as Newcastle fans being the best in the world...
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on May 04, 2010, 04:22:56 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Running is bad for the knees.


As much of a myth Paul as Newcastle fans being the best in the world...


Can cause lots of "wear and tear" type problems though. I've only been runnning 6 months, done a couple of 10k races, a 10miler and a half marathon, and had 2 injuries so far (achilles tendon problem, and now hamstrings).

Still, as far as I'm concerned, the benfits far outweigh the problems, and I feel 100% better now in general than before I did any running.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on May 04, 2010, 04:29:02 PM
My comeback run tomorrow night, the dk10K.

I'm aiming for 50 minutes to be honest after this lay off.

Last years PB for 10K was 43:34
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on May 04, 2010, 04:43:39 PM
Quote from: "DBTW"
My comeback run tomorrow night, the dk10K.

I'm aiming for 50 minutes to be honest after this lay off.

Last years PB for 10K was 43:34


Best of luck with the comeback run mate, hope the injury is fully healed. Are you still doing the BBCHM?

I have registered for it, got a half under my belt now (2:07 - with a dodgy hamstring) so, all being well, will be aiming for a sub 2hr time I think.

Let us know how you get on.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Matt C on May 04, 2010, 04:58:23 PM
I've been training towards my first full marathon for ages but have damaged my hamstring. McGrath knows how long its going to take to heel properly. Absolutely gutted.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on May 06, 2010, 10:24:23 AM
Did a tough 10k course in 46.23 last night with no training after injury so pretty pleased.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on June 17, 2010, 02:42:13 PM
Just a quick one; Does anyone know if the Birmingham Black Country Half Marathon has been changed from sunday 4th July, to Saturday 3rd. I originally had it in my diary for the 4th, and I'm sure the website previously said the 4th. I found out today its actually on the 3rd.

I know its probably just my mistake, but it couldn't have been moved since I registered could it?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on June 17, 2010, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: "BrummieInKiwiLand"
Just a quick one; Does anyone know if the Birmingham Black Country Half Marathon has been changed from sunday 4th July, to Saturday 3rd. I originally had it in my diary for the 4th, and I'm sure the website previously said the 4th. I found out today its actually on the 3rd.

I know its probably just my mistake, but it couldn't have been moved since I registered could it?


It's always on the Saturday mate.

I entered last week but still pretty badly injured (in running terms)

I can't even walk some days (today is one) due to tendonitis in both feet and I have run out of ways, ideas and advice on how to get rid of it.


Im under 7 min miles now too in training, which might be a cuse but frustrating to lose it too
Title: The Running thread
Post by: WarszaVillan82 on June 19, 2010, 09:19:02 AM
Just started running - following an online programme to build up stamina. Basically my only aim is to be able to run comfortably for 40mins or so 3x a week to keep healthy. Any tips for a beginner - how to keep motivated, how long it takes for stamina to build up, etc?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on June 19, 2010, 11:50:19 AM
What was the online programme?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: richard moore on June 19, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
Quote from: "WarszaVillan82"
Just started running - following an online programme to build up stamina. Basically my only aim is to be able to run comfortably for 40mins or so 3x a week to keep healthy. Any tips for a beginner - how to keep motivated, how long it takes for stamina to build up, etc?


Tips for a beginner in no particular order from someone who was the same 10 years ago and who has run several sub 3 hour marathons (have to establish my credentials to give advice and do a bit of showing off!):

1. Get yourself to a proper running shop and fitted out with the right running shoes and one or two bits of basic clothing without spending a fortune

2. Don't just run on roads - do some running off road

3. Don't build up the mileage too quickly though 40 minutes probably means you are not aiming to!

4. Do some hamstring and calf stretches before you go and when you return

5. Vary your routes so you don't get bored

6. After a while and when you have got used to it, you might like to set some targets. Time yourself for your 40 minute run and see if you can beat it each time you go out. However, you may not want to get that serious about it

Oh, and one other thing, maybe join a club if there is one nearby. Running is much easier with other people and you might just get the bug for doing the odd race or two and trying some different distances. Again though, this may be more serious than you want to get though being in a club doesn't have to be at all...
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on June 19, 2010, 07:46:36 PM
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

http://www.c25k.com/

I used these when I started - and downloaded the podcasts - they are great to keep you motivated / stop the monotony.

http://www.ullreys.com/robert/Podcasts/page4/page4.html

Good luck
Title: The Running thread
Post by: not3bad on June 19, 2010, 08:23:24 PM
Quote from: "BrummieInKiwiLand"
Quote from: "richard moore"
Quote from: "PaulTheVillan"
Running is bad for the knees.


As much of a myth Paul as Newcastle fans being the best in the world...


Can cause lots of "wear and tear" type problems though. I've only been runnning 6 months, done a couple of 10k races, a 10miler and a half marathon, and had 2 injuries so far (achilles tendon problem, and now hamstrings).

Still, as far as I'm concerned, the benfits far outweigh the problems, and I feel 100% better now in general than before I did any running.


I was told my right knee has arthritis this week.  Doctor told me it was okay to carry on running.  Still a bit depressed about it though.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: not3bad on June 19, 2010, 08:24:20 PM
Quote from: "DBTW"
Did a tough 10k course in 46.23 last night with no training after injury so pretty pleased.


That's damn good with no training.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on June 19, 2010, 11:37:14 PM
Quote from: "Fin Feds Dad"
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

http://www.c25k.com/

I used these when I started - and downloaded the podcasts - they are great to keep you motivated / stop the monotony.

http://www.ullreys.com/robert/Podcasts/page4/page4.html

Good luck


Looks good.

I've been doing 40-minutes of intensive cardio week day mornings before a weights session. Combined with the right diet and supplements, I've really cut-up but I still struggle with running. I used to go running but would go straight into running as soon as I was out of the door, would last about 10 minutes before stretching whilst I recovered and then went back into running and would essentially push myself (mentally) around the course. I wasn't doing the same cardio workouts then though so should be a lot fitter. However, I still struggle with running when I'm playing football.

not3bad - are you taking Glucosamine? I thought I was getting Arthiritis in my knees but one theory is that I'm not producing sufficient levels of Synovical Fluid (which lubricates the bones and stops them rubbing against eachother). After taking Glucosamine for a few weeks, you shouldn't feel the Arthiritis quite as much.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: not3bad on June 19, 2010, 11:39:54 PM
Quote from: "OCD"
not3bad - are you taking Glucosamine? I thought I was getting Arthiritis in my knees but one theory is that I'm not producing sufficient levels of Synovical Fluid (which lubricates the bones and stops them rubbing against eachother). After taking Glucosamine for a few weeks, you shouldn't feel the Arthiritis quite as much.


I will give that a try!  Thanks!
Title: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on June 19, 2010, 11:42:22 PM
No problem - I've been on it for several months and I feel it makes quite a difference to me. I was taking 500mg tablets but have gone up to 1000mg now. No prescription required, it's just sold as a supplement.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 20, 2010, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: "richard moore"

Tips for a beginner in no particular order from someone who was the same 10 years ago and who has run several sub 3 hour marathons (have to establish my credentials to give advice and do a bit of showing off!):

1. Get yourself to a proper running shop and fitted out with the right running shoes and one or two bits of basic clothing without spending a fortune



Thanks for this excellent list of advice - I'm starting this week on a beginner's program that combines increasing intervals of running with decreasing intervals of walking over time.

Does anyone know of any proper running shops in or around Brum?

Cheers
Title: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on June 20, 2010, 03:44:40 PM
Sutton Runner? (http://www.suttonrunner.com/)
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 20, 2010, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: "OCD"
Sutton Runner? (http://www.suttonrunner.com/)


cheers Ben - found this one as well:

Up & Running (http://www.upandrunning.co.uk/shops/birmingham.php)

Temple Street in Brum - might stop on the way home from work.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: WarszaVillan82 on June 21, 2010, 08:55:04 AM
Thanks for advice. Programme I am using also combines increasing running and decreasing walking. I've found it really good because anytime I've tried running before I've got ten mins down the road and been completely fucked. I'm in my second week now and starting to get into it. Here's hoping I keep it up because I am only one short step from being a lazy sod ;)
Title: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on July 02, 2010, 01:20:30 PM
We will be in the Pitcher and Piano tomorrow after the race, I'm number 259 if you see me, if not, PM me for my mobile number if you fancy meeting up
Title: The Running thread
Post by: BrummieInKiwiLand on July 02, 2010, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: "DBTW"
We will be in the Pitcher and Piano tomorrow after the race, I'm number 259 if you see me, if not, PM me for my mobile number if you fancy meeting up


Gutted I can't do this race, but I've had to admit defeat this time - my hamstring's still a major problem and I can only do 15mins at a time at the moment. Might have a place on the great north run though - should find out soon, that'll be my next hlf marathon if i get the place.

Good luck anyway, enjoy the day,
Title: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on July 02, 2010, 11:04:15 PM
All inspiring stuff. I've been on a weight loss program since last July and have gone from 21 stone something down to 15 something.
I've a stone or so to go so I've signed up for the Brum half marathon in Oct, I can jog fairly steadily for 3 miles and do this 3 times a week and have a program figured out to build this up.

My concern is about being left behind on the day. Will there be slowish fun runners ?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 24, 2010, 08:34:35 PM
Quote from: "andrew08"
All inspiring stuff. I've been on a weight loss program since last July and have gone from 21 stone something down to 15 something.
I've a stone or so to go so I've signed up for the Brum half marathon in Oct, I can jog fairly steadily for 3 miles and do this 3 times a week and have a program figured out to build this up.

My concern is about being left behind on the day. Will there be slowish fun runners ?


The best "inspiration" that I read was in my Runners' World book. In an FAQ section - "Don't worry if you think that you run funny. Funnier than who? The 95% of Americans who don't exercise at all?"

Go for it mate! Run for yourself!
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 24, 2010, 08:35:58 PM
Does anyone know a place in Brum to buy those hot/cold gel packs that you can use to ice your knees? I looked in Boots/Superdrug in Solihull today to no avail.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on July 24, 2010, 10:34:24 PM
Found one on Physioroom.com - great website for all sorts of products (http://www.physioroom.com/product/PhysioRoom.com_Reusable_Hot_Cold_Gel_Pack_Regular_/2009/38180.html)
Title: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on July 26, 2010, 11:07:41 AM
Thanks for that jkreejoh. I'm getting used to people running past me, I run the Harborne Walkway and Edgbaston Rezza routes and other than walkers I overtaken no one yet !

I'm struggling about what to eat before I run at the mo. I've been on a 2000 cal diet for over a year now and find it really difficult to accept that I can eat more now I'm running.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: damon loves JT on July 26, 2010, 12:16:08 PM
Hadn't run for years because I was worried it would aggravate pains in my lower back.

I started running and the pain has completely cleared up.

But on the other hand I am permanently knackered
Title: The Running thread
Post by: woo on July 26, 2010, 03:01:11 PM
Quote from: "andrew08"
All inspiring stuff. I've been on a weight loss program since last July and have gone from 21 stone something down to 15 something.
I've a stone or so to go so I've signed up for the Brum half marathon in Oct, I can jog fairly steadily for 3 miles and do this 3 times a week and have a program figured out to build this up.

My concern is about being left behind on the day. Will there be slowish fun runners ?


I did my fist half marathon after having done pretty much nothing for 10 years. 13 weeks of preparation, 3 runs a week (2 short runs and the 3rd longer, adding a bit on each time) and I thought I'd be slow but believe me some people were really slow, even stopping after a couple of miles.

If you keep doing 3 runs a week and gradually build up the distance, you'll have no problem.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on July 26, 2010, 04:01:59 PM
I did my fist half marathon after having done pretty much nothing for 10 years. 13 weeks of preparation, 3 runs a week (2 short runs and the 3rd longer, adding a bit on each time) and I thought I'd be slow but believe me some people were really slow, even stopping after a couple of miles.

If you keep doing 3 runs a week and gradually build up the distance, you'll have no problem.[/quote]

Thanks for that I feel encouraged by your comments.

I'm doing my three runs a week on a 2.5m/3.5m/2.5m program currently. When I get 12 weeks out from the day I will increase by a mile a week on the middle run and probably half a mile a week on the other two. I haven't been finding it too bad and reckon I could do around 6 or 7 miles now if I had to.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on July 26, 2010, 04:27:24 PM
Do you all do running on flat surfaces or do lots of uphill training?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on July 26, 2010, 04:35:53 PM
I've started doing hills. The uphills I'm ok with, I just grit my teeeth and get on with em. Downhills are really strange, I can't work out if I should lean back and jog down or just lean forward like a headless chicken out of control.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on July 26, 2010, 04:39:50 PM
I've been doing a running club for a few weeks with my gym. It's a really hilly area around the gym so there is very little flat running, it's either uphill or downhill. Running downhill, I've just kept my body shape the same as it would be on a flat but controlling the pace so that I've recovered a little for the uphill parts.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: usav on July 26, 2010, 04:46:53 PM
Turn 36 next month and injuries are starting to mount up - just had my first achilles problem.  Thankfully not a rupture, just tendonitis.  Doing rehab with stretching, massage and stim therapy.

Over the last few years I've had: sports hernia (both sides), several ankle ligament strains, stress fracture in the back, adductor tear, knee pain.....

Ready to retire from football yet?  Nope.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on August 05, 2010, 09:52:18 AM
The Wolverhampton marathon/half marathon is on 5 September. A pretty good course for a PB, some decent slow climbs and a well organised race.
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Rob Gee on August 05, 2010, 10:47:32 AM
As someone who regularly works out, plays football and cycles but that has only ever really done 4/5mile runs am I dreaming thinking I could run the Wolverhampton Half marathon on September 5th?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on August 05, 2010, 10:56:41 AM
Quote from: "Rob Gee"
As someone who regularly works out, plays football and cycles but that has only ever really done 4/5mile runs am I dreaming thinking I could run the Wolverhampton Half marathon on September 5th?


If you have a good basis level of fitness then you can start a training session now, but really don't aim for a decent time.

You have four weeks, you need to build stamina that will see you finish it.  

I can do you a detailed plan if you want?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Rob Gee on August 05, 2010, 11:40:44 AM
That would be great, I'd be happy with a finish and am thinking of entering EDF Birmingham Half marathon on October 24th so would aim for decent time by then!
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Rob Gee on August 05, 2010, 12:05:07 PM
Also, does anyone have any links to or suggestions for good running mix.

Do I need to worry about the speed of the songs or should I just get 2 1/2 hours worth of music I like on there to keep me distracted?
Title: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on August 05, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
If you're starting today i'd go with this.

Thursday, 3 miles easy
Friday - 3 miles easy
Saturday - rest
Sunday - 6 miles slow
Monday - 2 miles fartlek
Tuesday - rest
Wednesday - 4 miles at 10k pace
Thursday - 5 miles easy
Friday - rest
Saturday - 2 miles hills
Sunday - 8 miles slow
Monday - rest
Tuesday - 4 miles fartlek
Wednesday - 6 miles easy
Thursday - rest
Friday - 7 miles slow
Saturday - 4 miles hills
Sunday - 10 miles slow
Monday - rest
Tuesday - 3 miles fartlek
wednesday - 8 miles half marathon pace
Thursday - rest
Friday - 3 miles fast
Saturday - 3 miles hills
Sunday - 12 miles slow
monday - rest
Tuesday - 2 miles easy
Wednesday - rest
Thursday - 2 miles slow
Friday - rest
Saturday - rest
Sunday - race day
Title: The Running thread
Post by: Rob Gee on August 05, 2010, 01:06:28 PM
Cheers DBTW.

Should I try and do everything outdoors or does the odd session on the running machine fit in OK?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on December 13, 2010, 01:40:37 PM
Where does everyone run? There's no way I can run in the morning before work so I run two nights a week around the Jewellery Quarter (on streets in winter because it is too dark on the canal.) On the weekend I run along the canal if I can (snow and ice permitting) - otherwise JQ streets again.

I really can't wait for spring. By then I'll have finished my programme to get me up to 30 minutes non stop (currently at 17 minutes run, 1 minute walk, 12 minute run).
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on December 13, 2010, 03:43:35 PM
I run locally around the Black Country, this time of year is really hard though with the conditions.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on January 06, 2011, 07:58:14 AM
Does anyone belong to a running club? I'm interested in joining one - my "local" club is Birchfield Harriers though - only slightly intimidating.

Also, what's the best way to find out about local races (10K)?

Cheers
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on January 06, 2011, 09:59:37 AM
I run for Wrekin Road Runners, based in Telford. I dont train with them, and its a really relaxed club, with many ranges of ability and ages. I run in their colours and its nice to beling to someone when racing. You also get cheaper race entries.

You fancy joining?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on January 06, 2011, 04:22:57 PM
I run for Wrekin Road Runners, based in Telford. I dont train with them, and its a really relaxed club, with many ranges of ability and ages. I run in their colours and its nice to beling to someone when racing. You also get cheaper race entries.

You fancy joining?

Cheers DBTW - I love the colours (orange and black for the Philadelphia Flyers) - would really prefer to train with someone local though. Memberships renew in April, so I'll take my time before I decide.

Finished my RunnersWorld programme - have done 3 x 30 minute 5Ks and am ready to move up to 10K. Training now for an April race.

I bloody well love running. So glad I finaly started.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on January 13, 2011, 02:04:07 PM
I appeared earlier in this thread training for the Birmingham Half Marathon essentially to get some weight off.......well I did it in 2 hours 20. Not brill but I reckon the organisation at the start and finish 'owed' me 10 minutes. I'm going to do it again this year and I WILL beat 2 hours this time.

Any tips DBTW on keeping myself ticking over before I start the schedule again ? I haven't run since my latest daughter appeared early december but was doing 5 miles 3 times a week since my half marathon in October and now have the time (and permission !) to start up again. I have been doing lots of sits ups and cardio fast weights  in the meantime so I still feel fairly fit.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on January 28, 2011, 08:11:17 AM
I feel as if I'm struggling a bit to add distance to my 5k runs - and was wondering if it could be down to diet.

Before any of you do a long run - do you "fuel up" in any way? I'm going to add some more carbs to my lunch on the days that I run after work to see if that helps. I'm OK as far as the cardio-side goes (I'm not gasping for breath at all when I run and my heart rate seems OK) - but I do really fatigued at times - like I just don't have the energy to carry on.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: villa1 on January 30, 2011, 09:01:32 PM
My problem is still tendonitis in my calves. My feet have started going numb after about 3k again now! Grrr.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on February 01, 2011, 12:11:03 PM
I was supposed to run just 5.5k on Saturday morning, but couldn't remember the route that I mapped. It was 6.92k when I checked on MayMyRun. I guess I've answered my question about extending my distances.

On a another topic:

Does anyone have a good source of events/races for 2011? (prerably local). I've found the following so far:

The Running Diary:
http://www.runningdiary.co.uk/go/allevents.cgi

KP Events:
http://www.kpevents.net/kpevents-homepage.aspx


Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: N'Rexy on February 02, 2011, 09:05:17 AM
That Running Diary is the best that I have seen. Its excellent.

How often do you run?  General rule of thumb is to add 10% per week to your run if you want to increase distance but if you only run once a week that wont work...
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on February 02, 2011, 03:52:44 PM
Cheers Rexy - I run 4 times a week. The 12 week 10k programme I am on has me running moderate distances on Tues and Thurs and a longer run on Saturdays. But when I started it I was already running 5k - I'm scheduled go up to 6Km this Saturday. (I do a regular run on Sundays as well.)

Strength training on M & F (squats, calf raises, push ups, crunches).

I think I need to be patient more than anything.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on February 03, 2011, 03:46:52 PM
Comrade, I now run at least 2 or 3 times a week, around 4 or 5 miles at a time either on the road or on my treadmill. I'm in a 'hold pattern' of trying to maintain fitness until I start training for a half marathon. My big suggestion would be do lots of hills, they really take the stamina up a few notches. Also lampost running is good, ie sprint between one and jog the next. I think you live my side of town if so The Harborne Walkway is a  great place to run and the route back into town on road is steepish. A good 4 or 5 mile circuit from the Quarter and back.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on February 07, 2011, 10:50:11 AM
The Harborne Walkway is a  great place to run and the route back into town on road is steepish. A good 4 or 5 mile circuit from the Quarter and back.

I'll do a recce next weekend - cheers.

Managed 6.95k on Saturday - felt pretty good afterwards
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on February 10, 2011, 12:10:17 PM
Anyone use a HRM while running?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Reuben on February 10, 2011, 12:21:59 PM
You can get applications for your phone that monitor workouts, distance, times, and heartrate (with bluetooth)

Anyone use any of these?  I've just downloaded endomondo which I will try out tonight!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on February 19, 2011, 05:58:41 PM
Had a pleasant (but soggy) run this afternoon along the canal. Started near the NIA and headed north to Smethwick and back - 8.37 km in total back to the JQ. I'll bet that's a cracking run when it is warm and sunny.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: villa1 on February 20, 2011, 11:08:49 AM
You can get applications for your phone that monitor workouts, distance, times, and heartrate (with bluetooth)

Anyone use any of these?  I've just downloaded endomondo which I will try out tonight!

Runkeeper from the app store. Excellent app.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on February 20, 2011, 07:30:41 PM
Did a nice circuit this afternoon,City Road,Dudley Road,Portland Road,Five Ways,Hagley Road,Sandon Road,City Road.about 6 miles I think. I'll map it on the lappy 2mrw.Must do some canal running soon
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on February 21, 2011, 11:06:54 AM
It was under 5 miles when I mapped it
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: curiousorange on February 21, 2011, 09:28:31 PM
I'm looking to do the half-marathon later this year but I've only really got back into the running quite recently. I'm trying to build up some solid stamina so I'm doing 1.5-2 miles 3-4 times a week, but when should I start increasing distance? I've done three weeks so far on pretty flat terrain.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on February 22, 2011, 08:35:11 AM
but when should I start increasing distance? I've done three weeks so far on pretty flat terrain.

I've read (and have been advised) that an increase by 10% each week is best - so either 10% faster over the same distance ar just adding 10% more onto what you are running.

The 10K plan I'm on has me adding distance to my Saturday run each week.

Just gogled this Half-Marathon Plan - it seems to stick to the basic formula of running one long run each week after you do your normal ones:

http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/racing/rws-10-week-150-plus-half-marathon-schedules/99.html
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: villa1 on February 25, 2011, 06:56:31 PM
Dave, not sure if you know but you've made the Halesowen News this week.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on March 02, 2011, 12:00:34 PM
I thought that running would wear me out and help me sleep better - but I've had pretty restless nights after my last two runs. Any ideas? I think I was a bit dehyrdrated after the second one.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: N'Rexy on March 02, 2011, 12:11:17 PM
Comradre, what time do you run?  If I run after about 8pm I can never sleep until much later. Its all the stuff your body produces during and after the run (that I cant spell) that stimulate you.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on March 02, 2011, 03:45:44 PM
Rexy,

During the week I am usually finished running by 5pm (earlier on weekends). I even had a big portion of cottage cheese for pudding last night - it is supposed to help you sleep (and the casein protein feeds your muscles overnight).

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on March 09, 2011, 04:07:45 PM
I took up running last year as part of a weight loss program. I did the brum half marathon in October and now run every other day for 5 miles pending the step up for this years half marathon.I'm nothing special; very much a 9 min mile plodder. Anyway throughout the whole process I've struggled to find a decent running top. I've purchase vests from all the major suppliers all of which have given me appaling rubbing injurys to the poin that on one long run my nipples had bled so much they'd stuck to the top, very painful. Anyway I've cracked it I got one of those hi viz t shirts and its ace,nice and soft no rubbing and yesterday I ran my pb for 5 miles.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on March 10, 2011, 11:19:59 AM
andrew08:  Thanks for the tip. Where did you get the t-shirt? What brand is it?

For chafing has anyone used Runners' Lube or Body Glide?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Scott Nielsen on March 29, 2011, 06:48:14 AM
andrew08:  Thanks for the tip. Where did you get the t-shirt? What brand is it?

For chafing has anyone used Runners' Lube or Body Glide?

Given the climate where I'm at, the heat and humidity makes it an impossibility to keep cool so perspiration is at very significant levels. In such an environment there's really no material that will not cause chafing if you run for long enough.

So I keep it simple and just tape the nipples for my long runs and I'd usually also put some Vaseline around the armpits when I go sufficiently long to carry a hydration pack.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on March 30, 2011, 03:54:57 AM
Get a decent dryfit running top and apply vaseline to areas you may get chafing. It worked for me even running ultra marathons (50km+).
If the weather is colder wear a decent polypropolene top, they absorb moisture and keep your body temperature warm as well.   
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on March 31, 2011, 11:39:31 AM
Found some Body Glide at Snow + Rock in Brum - they now have a Runners' Need section. Ran ~ 9.5k on Tuesday with my nips lubed - felt fine afterward.

Found a on-line running kit shop (Athletika) that seasm quite reasonable for prices. Fast delivery and no hassle returns too.

http://www.athletika.co.uk/index.cfm

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on April 01, 2011, 05:15:30 AM
Found some Body Glide at Snow + Rock in Brum - they now have a Runners' Need section. Ran ~ 9.5k on Tuesday with my nips lubed - felt fine afterward.

Found a on-line running kit shop (Athletika) that seasm quite reasonable for prices. Fast delivery and no hassle returns too.

http://www.athletika.co.uk/index.cfm



That looks like a good site Comrade Blitz, some really good deals there, especially with the compresion gear and running tops. Might indulge myself.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 04, 2011, 04:53:44 PM
just ordered a hoody.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 07, 2011, 12:40:24 PM
Just arrived, top quality,far better than any of the big name brands. Nice and chunky
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Fergal on April 07, 2011, 01:22:47 PM
I really need to get off my idle fat arse and start running again.  What do you think of the C25K program to get me going?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 07, 2011, 01:52:25 PM
Is that the 5k in 9 weeks program ?Unless you are vastly overweight or ill I would think most adults would be able to do that.

I took up running about a year ago, but I had to lose a lot of weight first (about 20 kilos) by dieting and walking and then started with 3k jogs and built up from that. I did the brum half marathon in October and now do 8k every other day with an extra days rest at weekends (villa time). Tonight I'm stepping upto 10k. I'm not very quick but my BMI is now smack on 25 and I feel great.

I still find the first couple of K a struggle but I really do like that feeling you get when you're warmed up and running freely.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on April 07, 2011, 02:58:57 PM
Fergal - that type of programme is a good one.

I started running last summer (July/Aug) as an absolute beginner doing what sounds like to C25K programme -  and am now up to approx 10km during my 2 mid-week runs and 12k on the saturday run (need to add some distance to saturday now) 

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 07, 2011, 03:40:43 PM
Fergal - that type of programme is a good one.

I started running last summer (July/Aug) as an absolute beginner doing what sounds like to C25K programme -  and am now up to approx 10km during my 2 mid-week runs and 12k on the saturday run (need to add some distance to saturday now) 

What kind of times are you doing CB ?


Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on April 08, 2011, 08:16:09 AM
What kind of times are you doing CB ?

Sorry - I'm afraid that I haven't a clue - my next step is to buy a good HRM with a timer on it.  ATM I'm just trying to feel comfortable with the distances - I do an "out and back" along the canal and try to ensure that the "back" leg is faster than the out. It certainly feels like I accomplish that
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 08, 2011, 12:19:46 PM
I've got a Nike+ wristband with a chip that goes onto my trainer, which after you calibrate it is pretty good. Cost £40 quid, but there is a Nike/tomtom product about to come out which is well cool but £175.00. Nike do the HRM attachment for it as well but not sure how that works.

As I've said before I'm not that quick, yesterday I did my 10k in 60 mins 4 seconds. Crossing the Hagley Road cost me the 5 seconds that would have made the difference !
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on April 14, 2011, 10:20:38 AM
Is anyone running in London this weekend?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Gruffalo on April 19, 2011, 06:56:34 PM
Bit late but yes I ran London this weekend  - 4hours 22 minutes for my first Marathon.  Exhilerating but painful, too hot which destroyed my chances of sub 4hr.  My goal was for under 4hrs 30mins and I achieved that.  I came 14'300 out of over 36'000.  Started training in November and have lost 2 and a half stone since which tells you how unfil I was when I started preparation.  If you ever get the chance to run it then do so, but be prepared to do the training or you will suffer.  It's an amazing day and the support of the crowd is magnificent
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 19, 2011, 07:19:27 PM
I'm hoping to run next year. I'm already quite fit, I just need to get distance fit.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on April 20, 2011, 08:22:26 AM
Bit late but yes I ran London this weekend  - 4hours 22 minutes for my first Marathon.

Well done mate. Would you do it again?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 20, 2011, 09:28:15 AM
I met DBTW on Sat at West Ham. Loved his pre Marathon preparation.......Magners !
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on April 20, 2011, 12:10:22 PM
I met DBTW on Sat at West Ham. Loved his pre Marathon preparation.......Magners !

What better way to enjoy a rest day?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on May 13, 2011, 04:00:09 AM
I haven't read all 8 pages of this thread so this may have been mentioned previously.

I read a book recently called Born to Run by Christopher McDougall

One of the  best books I have ever read.  Really interesting, educational and ultimately excellently written.  Any of you guys marginally interested in running should read it. 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=born+to+run&x=0&y=0
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Guy M on May 15, 2011, 09:28:02 AM
Started doing the odd run as a way of getting me out the house. Surprised to find that I prefer to run iPod-less as that's more of a distraction than anything. Or maybe choosing shuffle option and jumping from Judgment Night soundtrack to German Schlager just isn't the best for a good rhythm.

Went to the London Marathon Store in Covent Garden (http://www.londonmarathonstore.com/index.html) to check out some shoes, had my feet assessed (by a very helpful and cute Aussie girl) and established that I had flat feet and was a moderate over-pronator. Given three shoes to try on their treadmill:Saucony Progrid Omni 9 (http://www.londonmarathonstore.com/acatalog/Saucony_Progrid_Omni_9.html)
Brooks Adrenaline GTS 11 (http://www.londonmarathonstore.com/acatalog/Brooks_Adrenaline_GTS_11_mens.html)
New Balance MR1226 (http://www.londonmarathonstore.com/acatalog/New_Balance_MR1226.html)

Went off and started doing some internet shopping research and ended up settling on these Saucony Progrid Omni 8 (http://www.sportsshoes.com/product/SAU897/saucony-progrid-omni-8-running-shoes/) on sale for £55 and which had previously been Editor's Choice in Running World.

However, first couple of runs out and feel like they're running the insides of my feet (where my arches are quite sunken) quite a bit and at the end of the run, my feet look VERY red and sore. It's almost as if they're giving too much support and are quite hard on my feet. Should I be looking to walk these shoes in much more before I start running in them?

Doesn't help that I ran from St Paul's to Canary Wharf and then down to Island Gardens (bottom of Isle of Dogs) a few weeks ago in neutral Under Armour trainers I got in Los Angeles and developed blisters in the same place, so maybe I just haven't let that part of my feet really recover yet.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on May 18, 2011, 04:43:47 PM
I'd stop until your blisters are totally healed.

I run in those Brooks Adrenaline shoes after having my feet assessed at a running shop in Brum. They have stopped the foot probs I had so would recommend them. I didn't run them in but I only run 5-7 miles at a time so perhaps I didn't need to. The other thing that made a difference for me is buying proper running socks which don't have seams in the contact areas.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Guy M on May 20, 2011, 01:47:53 AM
But how am I supposed to get fit doing nothing?!

Got the proper running socks (good old Sports Direct for the Nike elite and standard running socks) but still feeling the sole is very hard through the foot (especially the heel) and like the shoe is rubbing up the inside of both feet where I guess my foot should ideally not be quite so sunken.

Got free delivery if I order another pair from sportshoes.com (http://www.sportsshoes.com/) within the next couple of weeks.

Just realised if I'd gone to London Marathon Store in Covent Garden today that it was a Saucony ShoeLab Day and could have got my feet and trainers assessed by them. D'oh!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: N'Rexy on May 24, 2011, 02:28:12 PM
Its karma for using a sports shop for fitting and then buying them on line. That's bad form as these shops don't survive on fresh air alone.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Guy M on May 25, 2011, 10:17:12 PM
It could well be but I used the shop to confirm what I already suspected about my foot type and running style and didn't just buy the same shoes they'd suggested, but a type that should be suitable for me at what I deem to be a reasonable price. Still £55 and considerably less than they were offering.

But yes, you're probably right and I probably deserve it.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: woo on June 02, 2011, 03:49:28 PM
Birmingham Half Marathon 2011 is open for entries now. It's part of the "BUPA Great run series" now so is called The Great Birmingham Run. For those who did it last year the route looks the same.

£30 entry so the goody bag at the end better be good!

http://www.greatrun.org/Events/Event.aspx?id=14 (http://www.greatrun.org/Events/Event.aspx?id=14)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on June 04, 2011, 09:52:42 PM
Birmingham Half Marathon 2011 is open for entries now. It's part of the "BUPA Great run series" now so is called The Great Birmingham Run. For those who did it last year the route looks the same.

£30 entry so the goody bag at the end better be good!

http://www.greatrun.org/Events/Event.aspx?id=14 (http://www.greatrun.org/Events/Event.aspx?id=14)

they'd  better sort out the start/finish this year.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on June 06, 2011, 12:58:00 PM
I finished our huge charity challenge on Friday which saw us complete...

April 3rd - Taunton marathon
April 10th - Brighton marathon
April 17th - London marathon

May 19/20 - Ben Nevis, Scafell Pike and Mount Snowdon in 23 hours 25 minutes

June 1/2/3 Coast to coast along Hadrian's Wall - we covered over 89 miles.

We are trying to raise monty for childrens charities at www.justgiving.com/phoenix-challenge

I went to the doctors this morning as I had severe pains in my left knee on day 2 at Hadrian's Wall. I've been referred to a consultant with probable cartlidge damage so I may have a few numbers available to anyone who fancies taking up a marathon / half marathon this year.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: curiousorange on June 30, 2011, 09:25:35 PM
No marathons for me yet, but tracking my runs I find I've done 49 miles this month. For a guy who started the year an unfit fat bastard, I'm extremely chuffed.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on July 01, 2011, 10:10:24 AM
But how am I supposed to get fit doing nothing?!

Got the proper running socks (good old Sports Direct for the Nike elite and standard running socks) but still feeling the sole is very hard through the foot (especially the heel) and like the shoe is rubbing up the inside of both feet where I guess my foot should ideally not be quite so sunken.

Got free delivery if I order another pair from sportshoes.com (http://www.sportsshoes.com/) within the next couple of weeks.

Just realised if I'd gone to London Marathon Store in Covent Garden today that it was a Saucony ShoeLab Day and could have got my feet and trainers assessed by them. D'oh!

Guy, try and find out if any sports shoe shops do 'mi adidas'. The adidas rep comes in a measures each foot and then looks at your running style etc and then will make each shoe to fit each foot (slightly wider or longer for each foot, with padding to suit). They don't cost much more than a decent pair of running shoes and you can also design the colour of they (my latest ones are white with claret & blue stripes and trim with AVFC written on the side and back). I also have a light blue pair with claret trim. I swear by the shoes, they're great for running in and like wearing slippers. I got my wife to get a pair after she had had lots of issues with shoes and her feet and she swears by them now.     
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on July 01, 2011, 10:13:22 AM
No marathons for me yet, but tracking my runs I find I've done 49 miles this month. For a guy who started the year an unfit fat bastard, I'm extremely chuffed.

That's a great effort Curiousorange, keep up the great work.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on July 01, 2011, 10:14:38 AM
I finished our huge charity challenge on Friday which saw us complete...

April 3rd - Taunton marathon
April 10th - Brighton marathon
April 17th - London marathon

May 19/20 - Ben Nevis, Scafell Pike and Mount Snowdon in 23 hours 25 minutes

June 1/2/3 Coast to coast along Hadrian's Wall - we covered over 89 miles.

We are trying to raise monty for childrens charities at www.justgiving.com/phoenix-challenge

I went to the doctors this morning as I had severe pains in my left knee on day 2 at Hadrian's Wall. I've been referred to a consultant with probable cartlidge damage so I may have a few numbers available to anyone who fancies taking up a marathon / half marathon this year.

DBTW, you look after yourself mate, or you'll end up crippling yourself and not being able to run at all. Watch those injuries and listen to the body.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: not3bad on July 03, 2011, 05:39:39 PM
Did the Tadley 10k near Reading this morning. All uphill after 2 1/2 miles, it did my head in! Got a nice t shirt at the end though, with badgers on it.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on July 04, 2011, 08:34:44 AM
Was running along the cut in Brum on Saturday and bumped into the Wolverhampton to Brum half Marathon, the leader must has won by about 10 mins he was going at a fair old lick.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on July 14, 2011, 12:32:34 PM
Was running along the cut in Brum on Saturday and bumped into the Wolverhampton to Brum half Marathon, the leader must has won by about 10 mins he was going at a fair old lick.

I got a PB in this, 1hr 41 minutes.

It's a staggered start so the one in front probably didnt win overall
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: SaluteIanTaylor on July 15, 2011, 03:56:54 PM
Loving this thread and looking though everyones achievements, top stuff all round peeps.  I completed a charity 36mile run a couple months back - won it too!  Just over 5hrs.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on July 16, 2011, 04:53:11 PM
I'm trying to beat 2hrs this time at the brum half marathon.Ran 8 miles this morning in that bloody monsoon,just under schedule for sub 2hrs, bring it on !
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 29, 2011, 09:01:26 AM
I said WTF last Sunday and got up early, had a good breakfast and headed out to the cut by the NIA - mapped a 7.5km out and back from there up to the north end of the old main line Spon Locks Junction (past the motorway).

Was pleased to run 15km for the first time (90 minutes was about what I expected). Same again this Saturday.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Fergal on July 29, 2011, 09:09:59 AM
No marathons for me yet, but tracking my runs I find I've done 49 miles this month. For a guy who started the year an unfit fat bastard, I'm extremely chuffed.
I am starting off again on a C25K plan.  Wish me luck, I am going to need it...
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 30, 2011, 10:35:14 PM
Good luck Fergal and well done curiousorange.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: curiousorange on August 01, 2011, 11:51:58 PM
Been doing some number crunching. 35 runs in three and a half month, totalling 130.29 miles at an average of 3.72 miles per run. Certainly the early feeler runs bringing that average down but I'm now doing six and seven on a regular basis so I would like that bought up, starting with beating my set records in August.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on September 06, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
Picked up an injury about a month ago to a tendon just below my knee. Bloody painful.anyway purchased some special strapping which is basically a thin strip of neoprene foam with velco which has sorted it. Gone from running with a limp to being fine.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: lovejoy on September 14, 2011, 12:43:30 PM
What's a benchmark time for a 37 year old bloke to run 10k in?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on September 16, 2011, 03:29:03 PM
There are websites that give times with age allowences for national records etc and various categories.I'm 45 and I've been running for about 18 months and would always be under an hour now to lower 50 mins depending on route. Others would know better than me but I would guess something in the 40's minute wise would be good.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on September 17, 2011, 06:20:54 AM
What's a benchmark time for a 37 year old bloke to run 10k in?

About 37-38 minutes I think
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: bob on September 23, 2011, 08:44:45 AM
Does anyone have any recommendations for me to prevent chaffing? I'm suffering in that crease where bollock meets leg.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 23, 2011, 09:29:59 AM
Does anyone have any recommendations for me to prevent chaffing? I'm suffering in that crease where bollock meets leg.

I have had that particularly if I hadn't been running for a while.  I found that as I got fitter and my legs became more toned then the chaffing stopped, I assumed it was because the the leg was less fat/fleshy and therefore there was less rubbing but it could also be because the skin toughened up. 

Maybe some vaseline?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 23, 2011, 09:32:20 AM
Has anyone tried those Vicram 5 fingers running shoes?
Read a book called "Born to Run" (which is awesome) and they come highly recommended but it seems a huge (and expensive) leap of faith to go from some nice comfortable trainer to basically a glove.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: bob on September 23, 2011, 01:53:07 PM
Nice one Dante. I haven't done any running for about 3 months, and have ran 5k every morning this week so what you say sounds spot on.
 
I'll grease my nuts with a bit of vaseline next time.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on September 23, 2011, 03:07:46 PM
Does anyone have any recommendations for me to prevent chaffing? I'm suffering in that crease where bollock meets leg.

Shave your bollocks.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: woo on September 24, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
I've had a stuttering start to training for the brum half marathon but starting to get a routine going now. Did 7 miles this morning so at least I'm over half way now! 

Hoping to do it around 1hr 55ish.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 14, 2011, 10:35:34 PM
Does anyone have any recommendations for me to prevent chaffing? I'm suffering in that crease where bollock meets leg.

I've been using Body Glide on my nips - works very well. If you wear compression gear it hold your bits in place firmly so they won't rub too much.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on October 25, 2011, 09:39:53 AM
How did you get on Woo ? I managed 1:57 which is a PB for me so was pleased, still only came about 4500th there are some really fit people around !. Got to find a nice flat course to get close to 1:50.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on October 25, 2011, 11:35:01 AM
I've been using Body Glide on my nips - works very well. If you wear compression gear it hold your bits in place firmly so they won't rub too much.

Are we still on about running?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PeterWithe on October 25, 2011, 11:40:06 AM
How did you get on Woo ? I managed 1:57 which is a PB for me so was pleased, still only came about 4500th there are some really fit people around !. Got to find a nice flat course to get close to 1:50.

My missus did 1:45, I'd have wished she'd have taken her time a bit more as I could have managed another couple of pints.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: woo on October 26, 2011, 01:48:54 PM
How did you get on Woo ? I managed 1:57 which is a PB for me so was pleased, still only came about 4500th there are some really fit people around !. Got to find a nice flat course to get close to 1:50.

My missus did 1:45, I'd have wished she'd have taken her time a bit more as I could have managed another couple of pints.

Well done Andrew & Mrs PW. I finished in 1.59 so you probably finished while I was at the top of Broad Street!

Despite that being 5 minutes slower than last year I enjoyed it a lot more this time, no doubt due to the better organisation. I felt like there was allways enough space to run in.

I didn't feel too confident in the week before so I was happy to keep it under 2 hours...just!!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on October 27, 2011, 12:57:21 AM
I'm about to start running, been out and brought some decent running shoes special for my fat flat feet.

So any hints and tips to get started? I'm looking at that couch to 5k - any other recommendations or is that the best?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: atomicjam on October 27, 2011, 01:10:53 AM
In a slight off topic move I have been doing some fairly long walks (30 miles, 26 miles and so on) recently. There are a lot of events via the LDWA that welcome runners and walkers to cover long distances. I am not really a running kinda guy but I do have the stamina to walk a long way. I am building up for the 100 mile walk in two days in 2013. I have booked onto numerous organised walks building up to 50 miles in July.

Obviously if you run these distances you would need to be quite experienced and fit. The walks/runs go over some lovely areas and finishing feels great. Although watching a 75 year old man who weighs the same as a bag of crisps lap you can be a bit depressing! Anyone else on H&V doing long distance walking? Or if you are interested PM me and I can give you details of future walks.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on October 27, 2011, 07:23:05 AM
Is it that wobbly hips walking 'cos that looks really hard.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on October 27, 2011, 07:29:39 AM
Zog, that c25k is good,but DBTW is the man to ask he did a plan for someone earlier in the thread I think. Good luck anyway.

I went for a run last night for the first time after the half marathon, it was great- no time pressure,no training plan to keep to, just a nice fun run with me and Absolute 80's on the DAB.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 15, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
I've just started a 12 week Triathlon plan, so far so good, it's been 22 years since I did an IronMan so I was in my twenties, now mid 40s and aiming at an Olympic distance in May and a half IronMan in September.

Invested in a GPS & heart rate monitor which you can add cycle speed & cadence to also, really helps knowing exactly what youve done & you can set targets to beat previous sessions, beats an old timex and a bit of guesstimation!  Not only that clothing has come on leaps & bounds, I'm a sucker for Under Armour, their running jackets & tights are warm & comfy as are the base layers, again beats cotton & nylon hands down!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Gruffalo on February 25, 2012, 02:16:04 PM
I'm halfway through my training for this years London marathon.  Did it last year in 4hrs 22 which was OK for a first Marathon, but setting my sights a bit higher this year. Got to be under 4 hours.

Being a bit more scientific - invested in a Garmin 405CX which is mindblowingly good for the job and logging all my runs.  Training is going well so far, just need to stay injury free.  Got 145 minute training run tomorrow so hopefully the weather will stay like this.  8 weeks to go tomorrow!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on February 28, 2012, 02:39:26 PM
I reckon my half marathon pace is about your asperational pace for the Marathon if you need a training partner.

I've been doing a bit of no pressure winter training since October. No timing or checking the miles but I know how long most of my routes are so I'd guess I've been doing about 6 or 7 miles 3 times a week.
I've really enjoyed my running that way and I'm glad to have experienced the challenge of running when it's bloody freezing and then after a few minutes just not noticing it and really getting into the run.

I did my first timed 10 mile run last Wednesday at just a shade under 1hr 30 so I'm hoping for a sub 1.50 half marathon this summer. I've entered the Wolverhampton to Brum canal path race in July so that is going to be my first shot at it.

I'd welcome any advise on buying a Garmin. I just need accurate distance and time so can I get this at entry level or do you need to lash out on the higher priced models?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Gruffalo on March 01, 2012, 04:39:41 PM
Entry level Garmin would be fine for that Andrew, you won't regret it, should take your running to a new level. 

Completed my 145 mins run on Sunday completing 30.15km - Very chuffed!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 27, 2012, 10:51:34 AM
Purchased myself a GPS a couple of weeks ago. Certainly makes a difference. Training is going ok just wish it would stop bloody raining
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: danlanza on April 27, 2012, 11:23:02 AM
Just to let you lads and lasses know,if you are interested that next month in Lanzarote it is the Lanzarote Ironman triathlon,regarded by most to be the toughest in the world because of the terrain and the heat.It involves a 3.8 kilometer swim followed by a 180 km bike ride and finally,just to loosen up a full marathon.Last years winning time was -for the men-8hr-30min-34sec,for the women-9hr-28min-12sec!!!!
This years event is on saturday the 19th of may with 1600 athletes split into elite and non elite competitors.It starts at 7oclock in the morning on the main beach in peurto del carmen and it is fantastic to watch from the start as 1600 athletes run into the sea to begin the challenge.Around 10,000 people were on the beach for the start last year and predictions are for more this year.You can get more info from www.ironmanlanzarote.com if you want to.A lot of people video the event and follow the athletes around in cars and on motorbikes,all of these are available on You Tube.Maybe some of you are already triathletes and know all about the triathlete calender.The Lanzarote IronMan also acts as a qualifier for the World Championship in Hawaii later in the year.Some of the equiptment that these athletes use is truly mind boggling and very expensive but you don't have to go for the top first.The lower priced in any of the ranges will do a great job and it may sound funny but it really does improve your training.Good luck to anybody who tries any marathon or any triathlon and keep going for your P.B's.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 27, 2012, 01:17:08 PM
They only allow the sprint distance in the Olympics I gather.....aren't some brothers from Yorkshire the favourites .

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 28, 2012, 09:05:30 AM
The Olympics use the Olympic distance triathlons funnily enough.
1.5 km swim, 40km ride, 10km run, sometimes called International distance.  Sprint distances are typically used for pool based triathlons, London 2012 course is in Hyde Park, swimming in the Serpentine.

4 weeks to go for my Olympic distance tri.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on May 01, 2012, 10:11:48 PM
The Olympics use the Olympic distance triathlons funnily enough.


Lol that would make sense I guess !

Good luck with your tri.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 07, 2012, 05:44:00 PM
First big Brick day of training yesterday, a 25 mile ride at race pace a rest of 1 hour then a 1200 metre swim straight to a 10km run.
Felt good at the end & felt reasonable today no aches or twinges.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 15, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
2 Brick Days back to back Saturday & Sunday just gone, long pool session Monday evening racked up 3km, run today already done a 10 miler, 12 days to the race.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Gruffalo on May 15, 2012, 07:23:50 PM
Impressive stuff Jon.

I completed the London marathon in 3 hours 49 this year, 33 minutes better than last year - better training this year.  Going to do it again in 2013 to try and get closer to 3 hours 30, then look for the next challenge.  Thinking triathlon but the open water swim puts me off a bit, whats your experience of it?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on May 17, 2012, 07:38:26 AM
Nice one Gruff. I'm a few years behind you I think, I'm doing half marathons until I get into the 1:40's. I first ran the event 2 years ago in 2:22 last one was 1:57. When I get to my target time I'll try the full marathon.

I feel pretty fit these days, I took up running to lose weight originally, but if I get even a slight cold I just can't run at all, in fact I can tell when I'm about to get a bug because I just conk out in the middle of a run. Messes up the training as I have to take a week off.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 17, 2012, 08:03:57 PM
Impressive stuff Jon.

I completed the London marathon in 3 hours 49 this year, 33 minutes better than last year - better training this year.  Going to do it again in 2013 to try and get closer to 3 hours 30, then look for the next challenge.  Thinking triathlon but the open water swim puts me off a bit, whats your experience of it?

Doesn't have to be open water, there are a lot of pool based events, Super Sprints & some Sprint events for example.

Also don't forget in this country you'll probably never get an event where wetsuits are forbidden in open water, the water simply never gets warm enough whether a lake or the sea.
Open water, deep water starts are a bit daunting, a mass start, out of your depth in cold water can be very scary, but there are techniques to keep others away at the start even including smearing vaseline on your feet & ankles to deter would be 'attackers' who try & pull on you to get ahead!
Wetsuits will keep the cold off & they will make you more buoyant making the swim a lot more comfortable, Speedo run an Open Water Series of events every year with distances from 200 metres to 10km to choose from, a good way of building confidence.  2 swim hats to keep warm + you are allowed booties & gloves but to be honest it never really gets that cold.

Training has hit a snag, I had some blind hag open her car door into me as I was running past her car on Tuesday evening, thought I'd been shot in the chest, haven't run or swum since Tuesday.  Dopey cow.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: johnc on May 17, 2012, 11:04:36 PM
Impressive stuff Jon.

I completed the London marathon in 3 hours 49 this year, 33 minutes better than last year - better training this year.  Going to do it again in 2013 to try and get closer to 3 hours 30, then look for the next challenge.  Thinking triathlon but the open water swim puts me off a bit, whats your experience of it?

Did you follow the hal higdon programme or come up with your own programme. I have done a few half marathons and have a place in this years New York Marathon so will be starting ha
 Higdon 17 week programme at the end ofnJune. Has anyone any experience of this? And doesmit help tomrun slower? 333 mins better in ayearmis good going
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Gruffalo on May 18, 2012, 06:02:05 PM
Stick with it Andrew.  I only started running in November 2010 when i took up the marathon challenge via a charity place at work.  I was 16 and a half stone at the time, I've kep the running up 3 times a week even if not in training for a race since then and am now 12stone 13lbs.

Jon, sounds better than the horror stories I've read, maybe a triathlon later in 2013 then, thanks for the feedback

John, my own training plan which was aimed at under 4 hours - trained 5 days a week for 13 weeks followed by a 3 week taper.  Good luck with NYC - half tempted, but i just enjoy Lodon's atmosphere too much - it's addictive
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 18, 2012, 08:23:04 PM
First session since Tuesday duly completed, 12km run & a 2k swim mashed.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: johnc on May 18, 2012, 10:42:29 PM
Did 13km is evening at a slower than normal pace by about 30-40 secs per km. first time I have tried the long slow run and it felt good. Heart rate was down by about 15 bpm which should mean I can keep going for longer.

Plan to follow higdon novice 2 from the end of June
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 21, 2012, 04:02:15 PM
The Higdon plan, has anyone actually paid money for it or have you just used what you can find online without paying?  I already use Training Peaks the free version in conjunction with my GPS watch, what do you think should I upgrade & pay for Higdon?

I want to do at least 2 marathons this year & a few more Tri's.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 22, 2012, 07:34:26 PM
Windsor 1/2 entered for October.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: johnc on May 22, 2012, 11:21:10 PM
Only using what I find online. Am tempted to but the Higdon app for $8 but have rsisted so far. I reckon i will just photocopy the  novice 1 or 2 and stick it up on the fridge. Doing a 10km on Saturday to see how the first few months of training have Paid off
P&D marathon training is worth alook if you are able for big miles. It works on plans of about 70 -80 miles a week. I am not in that league
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: johnc on May 22, 2012, 11:23:22 PM
http://www.negativesplits.net/files/longbeach09.pdf
Here is aP&D plan. Big miles
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on May 26, 2012, 06:11:17 AM
Impressive stuff Jon.

I completed the London marathon in 3 hours 49 this year, 33 minutes better than last year - better training this year.  Going to do it again in 2013 to try and get closer to 3 hours 30, then look for the next challenge.  Thinking triathlon but the open water swim puts me off a bit, whats your experience of it?
Well done Gruff that's a great improvement, keep the good work up that's a good impressive gain (you will be down to 3 hours before you know it).
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 27, 2012, 04:23:13 PM
Tri done.  According to my GPS watch 2:21:24.  Fuck me that was hot.
Bit of a downer towards the end, a fellow age grouper collapsed with a heart attack on the run, airlifted to hospital, I hope he makes it.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: johnc on May 28, 2012, 08:14:18 PM
The heat was something else at the weekend. Ran a 10km on Saturday and was wrecked at the end of it. Despite taking on about  2 litres of water in the hour before I still need to take more on board during race. Hope that man referred to in last post is back up and about soon
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 29, 2012, 08:37:01 AM
Official time was 2:21:23, so only 1 second out on the watch.
Last heard he was described as 'stabilised' before he was put on the aircraft, doesn't sound good, heard nothing since.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on May 29, 2012, 08:52:20 AM
Well done Jon, that's a very impressive time. Congratulations.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 29, 2012, 09:05:51 AM
Thanks, I'm paying for it now.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on June 17, 2012, 01:41:12 AM
Just finished a 8km cross country race in freezing cold conditions -4c. Didn't help running through frozen ponds, over fences etc, but good fun overall. Took 43 mins but happy with that time.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 20, 2012, 04:04:42 PM
Did a sprint Triathlon last Wednesday evening, quite enjoyed it apart from the swim which I really struggled with despite it only being 750 metres.  I am going to invest now in some open water swimming lessons with a coach in Reading.  I seem to be hyperventilating 300 metres into the swim.

Another Olympic distance event booked & a Half Ironman booked for September ending the year with Windsor half marathon in October.

In other news I have decided 2013 I'll be doing my first Ironman distance race.  I may do the UK event in Bolton, if indeed Bolton is to be the venue next year or possibly a near European event.

Goodbye family, goodbye friends, goodbye alcohol, goodbye curry, hello 5am runs in the dark, hello 70 mile rides in the rain & the sleet, hello mile upon mile of ploughing up & down the pool at ungodly hours.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on June 22, 2012, 02:17:00 PM
Got an iPhone recently and I can recommend the Endomondo app which is  better than my entry level gps watch. You don't have to wait ages for sync either as it's instant.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 22, 2012, 09:11:45 PM
Endomondo is pretty good & with the addition of an ANT+ dongle it will hook up with a heart rate monitor, what it won't do is power or cadence for cycling, nor will it work in the swimming pool like a Garmin 910XT which can detect the stroke type as well, far too bloody clever.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on June 25, 2012, 10:57:53 AM
I was out running yesterday using Endomondo with my iphone on an armband, but I'd got it on silent mode where the lap alerts come by vibration. 

I was checking my progress after a vibration and ran into a low hanging branch of a tree ! It knocked me to the floor and left a tidy little gash on my head. I was simultaneously swearing and laughing at myself but thankfully no one was around.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2012, 10:03:14 AM
Anybody doing the Birmingham half marathon this year ?  (Great Birmingham Run 21st October)

http://www.greatrun.org/Events/Event.aspx?id=14

Its a bit pricey at £32 but you are in an event won last year by the legend that is Haile Gebrselassie, televised live on Channel 5, and you get to finish right in the middle of Broad Street.

Im 55 and just got back into my running. Did 8 miles last week in 1:25. Hope to get miling at close to 9 minutes and just maybe do it under 2 hours which I would be well pleased with.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on August 23, 2012, 06:34:52 PM
Good luck with the training, there is a killer hill at about mile 11 going upto Edgbaston from Cannon Hill Park so try and do some hill work if you can.
I'm tempted as I've done the last two but it clashes with Norwich at home. I would have to get home,soak in the bath for an hour or so then go to the game. Probably wouldn't go down to well with my other half.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 24, 2012, 04:50:03 PM
Just bought some new race shoes, Brooks Pure Connect, did a 10 miler in them yesterday and 10k in them today.  Very light, very supportive, the arch support in particular, biggest difference is I don't get a hip pain after 45 mins to an hour so I like them so far.
First race in 2 weeks time for them at the Reading Triathlon.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on August 24, 2012, 05:07:29 PM
Good luck with the training, there is a killer hill at about mile 11 going upto Edgbaston from Cannon Hill Park so try and do some hill work if you can.
I'm tempted as I've done the last two but it clashes with Norwich at home. I would have to get home,soak in the bath for an hour or so then go to the game. Probably wouldn't go down to well with my other half.



The Norwich game is the following weekend, so you can do both :-)

 I'm supposed to be doing this, my first ever run, but my training has been knocked off line by, a gall bladder op. Have just resumed training and have got to see how it goes, got 2 months to knock myself into shape.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on August 28, 2012, 08:59:35 AM
Good luck with the training, there is a killer hill at about mile 11 going upto Edgbaston from Cannon Hill Park so try and do some hill work if you can.
I'm tempted as I've done the last two but it clashes with Norwich at home. I would have to get home,soak in the bath for an hour or so then go to the game. Probably wouldn't go down to well with my other half.



The Norwich game is the following weekend, so you can do both :-)

 I'm supposed to be doing this, my first ever run, but my training has been knocked off line by, a gall bladder op. Have just resumed training and have got to see how it goes, got 2 months to knock myself into shape.

You're only right ! Schoolboy error....I'm in then,I'm going to do it. Good luck with the training.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 08, 2012, 10:11:18 PM
Havent entered the Birmingham run yet but have got up to the 13 miles distance in training. Using the Sutton fun run course with extras added on, so some good hill work involved.
The good thing was I managed to do the distance without stopping to walk, wasn't pushing time wise at all just steady steady the whole distance. The bad thing was it took me about 2.25 so getting near to 2 hours at age 55 might be a bit unrealistic.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 17, 2012, 06:06:30 PM
PB for me last weekend at Reading Triathlon in the run leg, 10km in 44:27 putting me 14th overall out of 290 athletes for the run split.  All down to the new shoes I reckon.

Windsor 1/2 Marathon coming up in a few weeks, target time 1hr 45.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: bob on September 18, 2012, 07:47:45 PM
I've just started a 12 week Triathlon plan

Have you got a link to this please Jon (if you thought it was any good)?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 19, 2012, 07:57:13 PM
I've just started a 12 week Triathlon plan

Have you got a link to this please Jon (if you thought it was any good)?

Bob it was in a book funnily enough called 'Triathlon Training Plans' which I bought at Barnes & Noble in the good ole US of A.

Happy to try & reproduce for you.  It was for an Olympic distance race, 1.5k swim, 40k ride, 10k run.  The book in question has plans for most distances, Super Sprint, Sprint, Olympic, 1/2 Iron & Full Iron.
If I remember rightly it was about a minimum of 8 hours a week in a 12 week plan.
I currently do on average 14 hours a week between swimming, cycling & running + a little gym work, notice it's not about miles, everything is about hours, sets & reps.  And remember whatever the distance you spend the least time swimming & the most time cycling, make sure your training plan reflects this.

Some good free resources out there, get an account with Training Peaks to record all your activities, if you have a Garmin watch or cycle computer upload direct to the site.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: bob on September 20, 2012, 11:16:51 AM
I will check out some of the training plans online. Cheers.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on September 21, 2012, 08:50:36 AM
PB for me last weekend at Reading Triathlon in the run leg, 10km in 44:27 putting me 14th overall out of 290 athletes for the run split.  All down to the new shoes I reckon.

Windsor 1/2 Marathon coming up in a few weeks, target time 1hr 45.

Well done in your triathlon Jon, great result. I think you will smoke your target time in the 1/2 marathon, given the training you are doing. Good luck mate.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: amfy on September 23, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Havent entered the Birmingham run yet but have got up to the 13 miles distance in training. Using the Sutton fun run course with extras added on, so some good hill work involved.
The good thing was I managed to do the distance without stopping to walk, wasn't pushing time wise at all just steady steady the whole distance. The bad thing was it took me about 2.25 so getting near to 2 hours at age 55 might be a bit unrealistic.


Having the distance in your legs already is a massive advantage. you may be surprised how much the crowd and the occasion carries you along on the day, especially with a few more weeks training under your belt.

I did it a couple of years ago but had run no more than 8 miles in training due to a heel injury keeping my milage down. On the day I was bang in schedule for 2 hours at 11 miles (1 hr 40), then realised I couldn't feel my legs at all, which was just plain weird, so I ended up walking loads of the last 2 miles and still finished in 2 hours 10 minutes!

I think there is something around not under or over training when you are older. I got an injury from over training, which led to me under training.

http://www.tonyferncoaching.org.uk/index.shtml

This is my Dad! I think he could get you from where you are to 2 hours in the remaining month if you are interested. Have a chat with him on line and say you're a Villa fan and I sent you! He would very like you straight away from your user name!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 28, 2012, 02:12:48 PM
Not entirely all about running but today I entered Ironman Wales 2013.  It takes place on September 8th in Pembrokeshire centered on Tenby.

Another bucket list item hopefully ticked off by this time next year.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 29, 2012, 09:54:07 AM
Send a link please Jon Crofts - not that Iíll do it but I want to see how crazy you are.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 29, 2012, 01:14:27 PM
http://ironmanwales.com

In essence, 2.4 mile sea swim, 112 mile cycle, 26.2 mile run.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 04, 2012, 07:17:06 PM
Cocking hell.  Found the speech on the tinterweb yesterday of the race directors race briefing for the 2012 Ironman Wales race.

His opening line was 'Ladies & Gentlemen, welcome to the toughest Ironman race in the world'

Something to think about for the next 11 months.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on October 05, 2012, 07:27:59 AM
I thought Kona was the most difficult, given that it is run alongside an active volcano in Hawaii. That's a rather big boast from the race directors  ;D

I don't envy the training you will be doing for this though Jon and I wish you the best of luck.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 05, 2012, 11:33:13 AM
Kona is the world championship not necessarily the toughest, it's tough just as it's meant to be & the bike leg is epic across the lava fields.

Having done more research & read race reports from competitors it seems the weather is the key, the past 2 years have seen gales, rain & cold temperatures, Wales, no shit.  There are 3 sanctioned Ironman races in the UK, all have a fearsome reputation especially Ironman 70.3 in Wimbleball (Exmoor) for the terrain & Wales for terrain & weather.

The training isn't so bad, I'm doing Don Fink's 30 week programme, weeks 1-10 avearge about 8 hours a week overall, 11-20 steps up to about 15 & weeks 21 - 30 max out at 20 hours in 2 of the weeks.  These are mostly rides, 6 hour plus & a couple of 3 hour runs.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 07, 2012, 09:12:58 PM
PB for me last weekend at Reading Triathlon in the run leg, 10km in 44:27 putting me 14th overall out of 290 athletes for the run split.  All down to the new shoes I reckon.

Windsor 1/2 Marathon coming up in a few weeks, target time 1hr 45.

Well done in your triathlon Jon, great result. I think you will smoke your target time in the 1/2 marathon, given the training you are doing. Good luck mate.

1:45:17

I think if people in front of me on the start line had actually gone to their realistic rather than dreamworld finish time pens I could have gone 6-10 mins quicker.  Great course, a good few hills nothing too severe but a good test & a beautiful place to run around.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 23, 2012, 08:28:51 AM
How did everyone get on on Sunday? I did 2:07:20 which was ahead of my expectations for a first attempt at age 42 from never having run before I started training. The hill at the end was a killer - could have done with being at the beginning! What a wonderful event, I came home on such a high afterwards. Will definitely do it again.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Villafirst on October 23, 2012, 01:44:02 PM
I ran 1:52:31. That was 4 minutes faster than last year - I didn't think I was in that kind of shape having not done the right level of training - in hindsight I could've gone under 1:50, but I'm never satisfied whatever time I run!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 01, 2012, 01:36:30 PM
Trapped or damaged a nerve at the base of my spine, probably sacroiliac, a week ago trail running along cliff paths in Devon.

Off to see the chiro tomorrow I wonder how long he's going to tell me to lay off the running & cycling.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on November 02, 2012, 04:52:14 AM
Trapped or damaged a nerve at the base of my spine, probably sacroiliac, a week ago trail running along cliff paths in Devon.

Off to see the chiro tomorrow I wonder how long he's going to tell me to lay off the running & cycling.

That's a blow to your training Jon. I hope it's not too serious and you are up and running (pardon the pun) again very soon.
I went to see a specialist yesterday about my knee and my cartilage has worn down to the point that I'm going to need another operation asap.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 02, 2012, 01:59:44 PM
Just back from chiro, new one, turns out she's a fox as well as a triathlete.
No nerve damage but have rotated hip backwards from running on uneven surfaces, muscles spasmed but she's managed to relieve them ooohh errrr.  No impcat training for a week, I can swim & cycle, no running.  Back to see her next Wednesday for 1 more treatment.

Human bodies are amazing things, the connections between a glute muscle & the upper vertabrae in the neck, how does that work?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on November 03, 2012, 01:46:39 AM
That's pretty good news Jon, things aren't as bad as you first thought. Nothing wrong with having a week or so off the running if you are still swimming and cycling. At least you will keep up the cardio vascular training. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 11, 2012, 08:13:27 PM
Yet another setback.  Fell off my bike on Saturday at 30 odd miles an hour on a descent, luckily I was past the fastest section.
Bashed myself up, all superficial, nothing broken, lost a lot of skin but luckily in winter clothes so arms & legs covered in lycra & the bike survived intact, luckily it went down on the non drive side, pedal took the brunt of the fall along with my left knee.

Back on the bike today, painful but need to keep moving, tried to run, not a chance.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 11, 2012, 05:38:44 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2246332/Jogging-outside-make-stupid--likely-suffer-mental-health-problems.html

Jogging outside makes you stupid, it's official & according to the Daily Heil you'll probably be mugged by an immigrant to boot.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 22, 2013, 06:04:12 PM
Springs here, well nearly, who's got halves & marathons coming up?

I'm doing Bath 1/2 on March 3.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Gruffalo on February 28, 2013, 07:27:25 PM
Running Warwick Castle HM on March 17th as a warm up for London marathon on April 21.  Training was going well until picked up a virus a couple of weeks ago - still making my body lethargic now , especially on the longer runs - as soon as I get past 100 mins on the road the aches are worse than Ive ever known.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 01, 2013, 11:38:08 AM
I was reading an article by Dave Scott, probably the greatest triathlete of all time recently where he said that 4 weeks before an event he avoided all physical contact with people, no handshaking, kissing, shagging, just to avoid picking up a virus before an event and wasting the weeks of training that went before, a bit extreme!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 03, 2013, 04:02:50 PM
A tidy 1:34 round a cold Bath this morning, still cold now.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on March 05, 2013, 05:28:56 AM
That is a nice tidy time Jon, well done.

I've got an MRI scan this week and a specialist visit next so, so I'm getting close to getting a date to get my knee fixed so I can start running again :).
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on March 12, 2013, 10:46:31 AM
That is a nice tidy time Jon, well done.

I've got an MRI scan this week and a specialist visit next so, so I'm getting close to getting a date to get my knee fixed so I can start running again :).

Had an MRI and ultrasound on my ankle last month.Got told to rest for a bit then have a cortisone stab if it doesn't go away by itself. I can run but stiffen up like mad overnight to the point where I hobble for an hour or so until the painkillers kick in. Really annoying.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 18, 2013, 12:58:10 PM
Did anyone do Reading yesterday?

My missus did and she said that she ran past a house with a gazebo outside and a Villa flag flying. She shouted "up the Villa" to them ( the daft old Arsenal mare) and got a cheer.

She can hardly walk today
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 19, 2013, 06:28:46 PM
Not this year, it was a beautiful day for it though, I was out running in the morning in a blizzard on Greenham Common, lovely.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Gruffalo on March 21, 2013, 03:51:17 PM
Ran the Warwick Castle half on Sunday in the rain and sleet.  Very pleased with 1:39 and a good tune up for the London Marathon in 31 days time.  Just need to stay fit and try and enjoy my 2 last long runs. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 23, 2013, 10:24:09 PM
Did anyone do Reading yesterday?

My missus did and she said that she ran past a house with a gazebo outside and a Villa flag flying. She shouted "up the Villa" to them ( the daft old Arsenal mare) and got a cheer.

She can hardly walk today

Chcico I did (last Sunday) and shouted Villa a couple of times to them with the double over the head clap.  they responded.

Was it anything to do with the Reading resident who posts on here - he was doing half marathon too?

I can walk now but Monday was hard after driving back. 1h37m35s and a new PB. You probably don't want to know but I like telling people
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on April 04, 2013, 04:26:14 PM
Sorry, Rob, only just read this post

The "Villa fan in Berkshire"? that's Jon Crofts innit?

he wouldn't have a gazebo - a marquee, maybe, but not a gazebo.............

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 08, 2013, 11:24:44 AM
Summer House dear boy, marquees are so vulgar.

There's a few Reading Villains that post on here and a Windsor Villain and anyway I live in West Berkshire.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 10, 2013, 07:17:41 PM
Time to resuscitate the running thread.

How was Spring and the marathon season?  My first Triathlon of the year next Sunday, Windsor olympic distance, Thames looks quite benign at the moment unlike last year when the swim got cancelled due to the flow and the crap coming downstream and the triathlon ended up as a duathlon.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: NatP on June 11, 2013, 08:39:02 PM
Have just got my entries in for the Timberhonger 10km (Bromsgrove) and the Birmingham Black Country Half Marathon (Wolverhampton to Birmingham along the canal path).
Better get off the sofa and do some training....
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Gruffalo on June 13, 2013, 07:02:48 PM
London Marathon was a disappointment at 3:53, missed too many long runs with a virus and was just undercooked, went great until 18 miles when i was on for 3:30 something but then crashed and burned.

Ran the 2 castles 10k at the weekend and set a new PB of 43:57 so that was better.  For the rest of the year I'm running the Olympic Park 5mile in July, finishing in the Stadium, and then an looking at the London Duathlon in September for something a bit different to just the running.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: andrew08 on June 14, 2013, 04:08:09 PM
I'm supposed be doing the Wolverhampton- Brum half.... But I'm still injured and getting heavy!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 16, 2013, 03:25:48 PM
Windsor Olympic Tri done, 2:34 total, cold dark swim in the Thames was a wake up call at 0725 this morning, good bike leg & a good 10k in 46 mins to end.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 05, 2013, 03:30:37 PM
5 weeks until I do Ironman Wales.  On Saturday I rode the bike course, 112 miles and 9000 feet of climb, just the marathon to run after that then.
First signs of repetitive strain & pressure injuries starting now, my ankles are sore when running especially on tarmac, need to find some grassy tracks to run on & try & stay injury free now for 5 more weeks.

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3125/ix9x.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/ix9x.jpg/)

Brutal in parts and beautiful in others.

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7752/mgb2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/mgb2.jpg/)

That's Freshwater West, one of the finest beaches in the UK.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 14, 2013, 07:15:19 PM
Fackin' nails

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7929/7pqe.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/7pqe.jpg/)

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on September 16, 2013, 06:53:45 AM
Well done Jon, brilliant effort.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: danlanza on September 19, 2013, 09:22:38 PM
Well done sir. 13hrs 40 mins 5 secs of utter gruelling hell. Well done John. Keep up the training and we will see you in Lanzarote in 2014.
Fantastic time and great effort. UTV
Are you prepared for the climbs over here mate ? Brutal does not do them justice, and you have the heat as well. I am sure you know this already, but, email La Santa for your info closer to the time. It would do you well to have a couple of weeks over here before your Ironman to get to know the course and the heat. You could then work out your nutrition, fluid intake ...etc. Good luck pal.
Oh, then there is the wind. Once you get out of Puerto Del Carmen, through Calero, up to Yaiza, the wind is fierce mate, especially through Timanfaya and up to Mirador Del Rio. Then you are on easy street, nearly. You only have a full Marathon to go then. Easy does it mate, as long as you finish over here it is a fantastic triumph. Go Mr Crofts.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on September 20, 2013, 08:53:03 AM
Well done sir. 13hrs 40 mins 5 secs of utter gruelling hell. Well done John. Keep up the training and we will see you in Lanzarote in 2014.
Fantastic time and great effort. UTV
Are you prepared for the climbs over here mate ? Brutal does not do them justice, and you have the heat as well. I am sure you know this already, but, email La Santa for your info closer to the time. It would do you well to have a couple of weeks over here before your Ironman to get to know the course and the heat. You could then work out your nutrition, fluid intake ...etc. Good luck pal.
Oh, then there is the wind. Once you get out of Puerto Del Carmen, through Calero, up to Yaiza, the wind is fierce mate, especially through Timanfaya and up to Mirador Del Rio. Then you are on easy street, nearly. You only have a full Marathon to go then. Easy does it mate, as long as you finish over here it is a fantastic triumph. Go Mr Crofts.

After an Ironman in Wales, Lanzarote will be a breeze for someone like Jon, Dan. Knowing how seriously Jon takes his racing he will do the proper training and research.   
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 20, 2013, 03:35:03 PM
Dan, Wales is rated the toughest Ironman course in the world now, sitting there above Lanzarote & Kona http://www.trirating.com/course-ratings/
The 2.4 mile swim at Wales is an open water sea swim, water temp was 16c, tide was running. The bike in Wales is 112 miles with 9000 feet of vertical climb including a 16% climb at 110 miles.  The marathon 26.2 miles has 2800 feet of vertical climb, for reference the London marathon is -38 feet.  The other unique factor in Wales is the run from swim exit to T1, some 1 and a bit km incuding scaling a 60 foot cliff.

The weather in Wales for the last 3 years has been horrific, this year we had wind, rain, sun & hail, my Garmin on the ride showed 8c, many people just froze over on the ride, add to that the technical nature of the bike course and you have a savage, brutal course.  Last year 18% of starters DNF'd.

I've already signed up for Wales 2014, there's nothing quite like it, I'm going to do a US Ironman race as well next year, Lake Placid if I can get a slot.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: evalast1910 on September 20, 2013, 04:38:32 PM
I have just been accepted to run the London Marathon in memory of my dad. Two years ago I use to run every night now I do nothing so training starts Monday; if any of you would be so kind.....

http://www.justgiving.com/running4pops

:)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: danlanza on September 23, 2013, 10:08:55 AM
Dan, Wales is rated the toughest Ironman course in the world now, sitting there above Lanzarote & Kona http://www.trirating.com/course-ratings/
The 2.4 mile swim at Wales is an open water sea swim, water temp was 16c, tide was running. The bike in Wales is 112 miles with 9000 feet of vertical climb including a 16% climb at 110 miles.  The marathon 26.2 miles has 2800 feet of vertical climb, for reference the London marathon is -38 feet.  The other unique factor in Wales is the run from swim exit to T1, some 1 and a bit km incuding scaling a 60 foot cliff.

The weather in Wales for the last 3 years has been horrific, this year we had wind, rain, sun & hail, my Garmin on the ride showed 8c, many people just froze over on the ride, add to that the technical nature of the bike course and you have a savage, brutal course.  Last year 18% of starters DNF'd.

I've already signed up for Wales 2014, there's nothing quite like it, I'm going to do a US Ironman race as well next year, Lake Placid if I can get a slot.
Bloody hell Jon, that sounds horrific. No probs over here then, just enjoy the sunshine. The Mrs and i will be watching out for you on the time tracker on the finish line. All the best Jon.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 11, 2013, 09:55:15 PM
Did anyone else manage to get a London slot?
I didn't that's 3 years on the trot now, is the 5 year rule still in place?

Rant time now.  Why the fuck is that fat c**t Gordon Ramsey competing at the Ironman World Championships in Kona this weekend?  Everyone else there had to qualify all except that potty mouthed knob end.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: evalast1910 on October 11, 2013, 10:58:19 PM
Yes I did get a spot in London. :)

www.justgiving.com/running4pops
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Gruffalo on October 14, 2013, 01:25:24 PM
Yes I got pulled out of the ballot for London - running number 2922.  Feel guilty now Jon as thats 2 times in 3 years i've been pulled out.  Quite lucky by all accounts.  Im certain they got rid of the 5 year rule a few years ago so that probably isn't going to help your mood....
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 17, 2013, 09:09:47 AM
Good luck, hope it all goes well, I know a few people at work who have got slots for next year, some of them struggle with the couch bit of 'couch to 5k'
You're right, the 5 year thing ended.
Ho hum, Reading half booked for March then it's Ironman training plan all the way to September with a few races in between again.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 21, 2013, 05:08:14 PM
Anyone else do the Great Birmingham Run yesterday? I did 1:57:25 which was nearly 10 minutes faster than last year and included a loo break so I was very pleased with that. Seemed to be a slightly harder course than last year - there was an additional climb snuck in around Stirchley. News last night said they are thinking of changing the route next year?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on November 28, 2013, 11:43:37 PM
I've been training for about the last six months in the gym and have at last started running on the road. I've always struggled with running distance (been ok playing football though) as I suffer from back pain but for once in my life and with some decent trainers I feel as though I am getting somewhere. I  know there's some pretty serious runners on here so any tips would be great. I've been advised to take things slow to begin and to take rest days but I find this really frustrating. I'm never going to make the marathon so I've set my sights on 5k in a couple of months and then trying for 10k eventually.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 29, 2013, 01:21:58 PM
If the trainers/shoes have made a difference then get to a podiatrist or at least to a store that can exanmine your gait and foot strike, even changing insoles can mage a huge difference to a runner. 
Set yourself realistic goals, running 10k is one thing but running 10k in say sub 60 mins is another, Park Run is a great way to get into and understand your goals.  Also a heart rate monitor will really boost your training by showing you how hard you are working rather than just by percieved effort, do some research on heart rate zones and training in those zones, running in Zone 2 for an hour or so will burn fat and oxygen both of which are in endless supply, running for 10 minutes in Zone 3 or 4 will burn sugar and you don't have a lot of that to burn so its worth understanding how your heart works and where your training zones are.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on December 02, 2013, 11:36:08 AM
Thanks Jon. I went to a podiatrist a few years ago and they gave me some heel supports that helped with long distance walking, because I suffered from back pain I never even thought about running at that time. Now though, I feel as though I am getting somewhere. I'm following a Couch to 5K programme which seems to be testing me just about enough but I am starting from scratch as I've been advised to do that.
The reason why I've set my sights on a 5K is because they do Park Run close by and my step son often does it. I'd just like to do something on a Saturday morning even if I can't keep up with the whippersnapper.
I'll have a look into the heart rate stuff even though I struggle to keep it in the right zone when working out at a gym.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on January 03, 2014, 01:10:47 PM
I  know there's some pretty serious runners on here so any tips would be great.

The three things that I wish I had know about when I first started running outdoors are active (dynamic) stretching for warming-up, compression and proper post-run recovery techniques. Would have saved a lot of pain and soreness.

Happy to give some tips if you don't find anything on Google.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on January 03, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
Dynamic stretching makes a massive difference. I would warm-up with a gentle run, do the dynamic stretching and then do interval running (jog 100m, run 100m i.e use 2 different speeds). I always felt crap in the warm-up run, as though I wouldn't be able to last very long. Once I had done the dynamic stretching, the muscles are all properly warmed up and suddenly running felt easy and I would be able to complete the course without any issue.

After that, I would rest for a couple of minutes before doing some sprint work. That meant going where there would be a 100m straight. I would sprint 100m, walk back and repeat 10-12 times. Then try to jog home or more likely walk home. That's a great work-out that is.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 03, 2014, 02:06:04 PM
Dynamic stretching? I do just what I call standard stretches as warm up and not suffering from any pains at present post run. I will investigate further, sounds interesting thanks.
I'm on week 6 of a couch to 5k programme which is a very slow build up in distance. I'm not keen on varying from that until I complete week 9. So far, so good though. Have just completed two 12 minute runs with a 3 min walk in between and feel pretty good about progress. The programme advises getting used to running for time before working on speed so am happy to go along with that philosophy.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on January 03, 2014, 04:04:13 PM
Standard stretches (aka Static stretches) should really be done at the end of a session after the muscles have been worked.

Dynamic stretches involve small movements that get bigger and help push blood into a muscle which helps to feel loose and get over any stiffness. The Dynamic stretches I do are squats, hip swings (leaning against something and swinging a foot from left to right and gradually getting bigger swings), hamstring swings (leaning against something and swinging a leg behind you, again getting bigger swings. This also helps get the lower back warm), standing calf raises (using a full range of movement), shoulder swings (swinging left and right arms out in front of you, with the swings getting bigger until you're using full range of movement. As well as getting blood flow into the upper back to). Not really necessary for running but you can also dynamically stretch the pectorals. For this, imagine you're holding a 2' rubber band in both hands with your hands crossed over eachother then try to stretch the imaginery band - again getting bigger with each repetition. In each set of dynamic stretches, look to do about 20 repetitions.

You do get some funny looks from by-passers but I didn't care and it's worth it. Though you could equally do them before setting off.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 04, 2014, 09:46:57 PM
I'm used to getting funny looks.

It's either my cock hanging out my shorts or its cos I'm wearing a Villa shirt.

I'll give em a go tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on January 06, 2014, 08:23:56 PM
Standard stretches (aka Static stretches) should really be done at the end of a session after the muscles have been worked.

Dynamic stretches involve small movements that get bigger and help push blood into a muscle which helps to feel loose and get over any stiffness. The Dynamic stretches I do are squats, hip swings (leaning against something and swinging a foot from left to right and gradually getting bigger swings), hamstring swings (leaning against something and swinging a leg behind you, again getting bigger swings. This also helps get the lower back warm), standing calf raises (using a full range of movement), shoulder swings (swinging left and right arms out in front of you, with the swings getting bigger until you're using full range of movement. As well as getting blood flow into the upper back to). Not really necessary for running but you can also dynamically stretch the pectorals. For this, imagine you're holding a 2' rubber band in both hands with your hands crossed over eachother then try to stretch the imaginery band - again getting bigger with each repetition. In each set of dynamic stretches, look to do about 20 repetitions.

You do get some funny looks from by-passers but I didn't care and it's worth it. Though you could equally do them before setting off.

I always cringe when I see runners turn up, do a few static stretches and then start running. They also usually finish by running right to their car door getting in and driving off. Argh!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on January 06, 2014, 10:38:28 PM
I could probably look round the gym at any random time and see somebody doing something wrong. It's only when you've been doing something for so long that you learn the correct way to do things. It's a shame there's not a better education. We were never taught about dynamic stretches at school.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 07, 2014, 01:03:18 AM
I always warm up before leaving home. I've now combined my normal stretches with some from the dynamic type and I'm happy doing that. I know my weak points and I know what works for me. There seems to be so any conflicting views on the web that its difficult to know what is the best way.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 14, 2014, 02:10:07 PM
Did my first 5K last night and feel no adverse effects today. I took it really steady at about 11.5 mile/min although I speeded up at the end cos I wanted a piss. There was plenty more in the tank (not piss, energy) so I shall do another one on Thursday then do a park run on Saturday. I'm just going to carry on as I have been doing, running a little further and then trying to up the speed a tad. I can't believe how much I am enjoying running in the freezing cold and rain. Its marvellous though. Thanks to you all for the tips on stretching and that.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 14, 2014, 04:54:06 PM
I agree with you re the running in the rain and the crappy weather, I feel the same re cycling in it too, there's a certain something about it and if you don't train in it, how can you expect to race in it? That said a decent Gore Tex jacket is a must, as is a decent base layer and tights, knee length socks, gloves, hat & a neck buff.

Just to add to the stretching discussion, well a slight tangent anyway, anyone use a trigger point roller?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on January 14, 2014, 06:08:13 PM
Sort of - I've got a Rumble Roller which is very effective. It helped a lot when I strained my back.

As for clothing, I have gone out in Shorts and T-Shirt in mid-winter before - purely because once my warm-up run has got me warm I'm fine after that. T-Shirt, Jumper and Shorts are fine for me. The cold's not an issue if you're working hard enough. The only conditions I don't like are when the ground's slippery under foot.

Congrats on your first 5k MHS.

I'm just gradually starting to ease my way back into running again after having had both Ankles reconstructed over the last 18 months. I've got 4 screws in my left foot and 3 in my right foot - the 2 at the back of either foot are about 2" long. The last time I went out for a run (after recovering from the first op), I could run but couldn't do the Sprint Intervals. Due to how much foot flexion is required in sprinting, the one set of screws hit the other set of screws before I could get to top pace and flung me out of my stride (I probably looked like Michael Owen when he did his Hamstring mid-sprint) so I'm not sure whether I'll ever be able to sprint again.

I'm planning to run 1k at 13k/hr on the treadmill tomorrow as part of a bigger cardio workout. It's a gradual build-up as I'm not in any particular rush.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 14, 2014, 06:27:52 PM
I feel the cold, especially in my lower body for some reason, my feet in particular, cycling through the winter I wear winter Gore Tex cycling boots, merino socks and I put those chemical toe warmers in my boots.  I am officially a girl, that said any idiot can be cold.
I tend to wear maybe more than I need, you can always take it off but if you aint got it, you can't put it on.
 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 14, 2014, 06:40:28 PM
...then do a park run on Saturday.

After years of not running I started again last year and in the process discovered Park Run.  A fantastic idea which I couldn't recommend highly enough for those, like me, who will never race competitively but want a regular challenge. Completely free, a great vibe, really supportive and encouraging.   My only gripe is that the last kilometre or so in Manchester's Heaton Park is virtually all up hill!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 17, 2014, 11:08:47 AM
Will be doing the parkrun tomorrow in Cov and judging by the times from last week, will be looking at a lot of people zooming past me. I'm hoping that if I spray my hair grey I will appear a lot older than I actually am and get a decent time for a 75 year old.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on January 20, 2014, 02:54:34 PM
Just over 100 days until I attempt to run 100 miles.

My achilles is still in a mess after running 11 marathons last year but still trying to give it a go.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 21, 2014, 10:33:41 AM
Just over 100 days until I attempt to run 100 miles.

My achilles is still in a mess after running 11 marathons last year but still trying to give it a go.

Holy moly.

This is small fry but nonetheless a huge astep up for me as I completed my first parkrun on Saturday in 30 minutes, knocking over 5 mins off my previous time. There were over 450 runners which was a real shock to the system as I do all my running alone but managed to keep my normal pace at the start and not get tempted to speed up too much. I haven't run with so many people around me since we bricked the windows of the local Dairy when I was 15.
I honestly never in my wildest dreams thought I'd enjoy running as much as this - I'm getting a real buzz out of it. At the end of November I was struggling to do 2 minute runs with 3 minute walk breaks. I'm now looking at 10K distance runs with the goal of doing the Two Castles between Kenilworth and Warwick in June. I know I'm never going to break any world records but the sense of personal improvement and achievement is something else.

 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Ads on January 21, 2014, 10:47:09 AM
I have had really tight knees since my run last Tuesday.

I do a short 3k run to keep my cardio and my fitness ticking over once or twice a week, but have found my knee feels like it needs to pop.

Can anybody recommend any good warm up or particular exercises to prevent this?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on January 21, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
I jogged a bit on Sunday round an Orienteering course in Sandwell Valley.

One leg (of the course) ran parallel to the M5 - I was overtaken by a Porsche which made me smile. The path was very muddy and I only had trainers on so it did have an advantage.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on January 21, 2014, 10:54:43 AM
I have had really tight knees since my run last Tuesday.

I do a short 3k run to keep my cardio and my fitness ticking over once or twice a week, but have found my knee feels like it needs to pop.

Can anybody recommend any good warm up or particular exercises to prevent this?

When you warm up move about when stretching your muscles - don't stand still and just bend your knees. I think it is referred to as active stretching - if you watch players warm up at VP they are moving about slowly at first then they introduce the stretching as the body warms up. Also do a proper warm down afterwards, I'm told it is probably more important than the warm up.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on January 21, 2014, 11:53:38 AM
Just over 100 days until I attempt to run 100 miles.

My achilles is still in a mess after running 11 marathons last year but still trying to give it a go.

Holy moly.

This is small fry but nonetheless a huge astep up for me as I completed my first parkrun on Saturday in 30 minutes, knocking over 5 mins off my previous time. There were over 450 runners which was a real shock to the system as I do all my running alone but managed to keep my normal pace at the start and not get tempted to speed up too much. I haven't run with so many people around me since we bricked the windows of the local Dairy when I was 15.
I honestly never in my wildest dreams thought I'd enjoy running as much as this - I'm getting a real buzz out of it. At the end of November I was struggling to do 2 minute runs with 3 minute walk breaks. I'm now looking at 10K distance runs with the goal of doing the Two Castles between Kenilworth and Warwick in June. I know I'm never going to break any world records but the sense of personal improvement and achievement is something else.

 

Thats the joy of running, the only person to 'compete' against is yourself.

Keep going with it, once you get to marathon distance and cross the line after 26.2 miles, the feeling of immense pride is overwhelming
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on January 21, 2014, 01:41:54 PM
I have had really tight knees since my run last Tuesday.

I do a short 3k run to keep my cardio and my fitness ticking over once or twice a week, but have found my knee feels like it needs to pop.

Can anybody recommend any good warm up or particular exercises to prevent this?

Having read SashaGrandad's post, I thought it would be worth re-posting the following. Apologies for quoting myself, it does feel wrong but it will save me typing it all out again.

Standard stretches (aka Static stretches) should really be done at the end of a session after the muscles have been worked.

Dynamic stretches involve small movements that get bigger and help push blood into a muscle which helps to feel loose and get over any stiffness. The Dynamic stretches I do are squats, hip swings (leaning against something and swinging a foot from left to right and gradually getting bigger swings), hamstring swings (leaning against something and swinging a leg behind you, again getting bigger swings. This also helps get the lower back warm), standing calf raises (using a full range of movement), shoulder swings (swinging left and right arms out in front of you, with the swings getting bigger until you're using full range of movement. As well as getting blood flow into the upper back to). Not really necessary for running but you can also dynamically stretch the pectorals. For this, imagine you're holding a 2' rubber band in both hands with your hands crossed over eachother then try to stretch the imaginery band - again getting bigger with each repetition. In each set of dynamic stretches, look to do about 20 repetitions.

You do get some funny looks from by-passers but I didn't care and it's worth it. Though you could equally do them before setting off.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: villa kicks on January 25, 2014, 08:25:02 PM
I'm already an excellent runner and have good fitness however if others are interested there is a great pod cast to take on the subject with the guardian

good luck if new to this its great to be free and run. Very natural invigorating and healthy !!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on January 30, 2014, 02:54:12 PM
My story.

I gave up smoking 12 weeks ago after 20 years, the last four of which I became desperate to quit. I decided the best way to keep me off the cigarettes was to get fit, I could only run 1 mile maximum when I smoked and would be blowing out of my arse all of the way round. So take up running I have.

I started out doing 1 then 2 and then 3 miles and I amazed myself at how much easier it was when you don't smoke. Three weeks ago I did my first 5 mile run and then last Saturday I managed 7 miles, over 15 miles in total that week.

My average speed is about 9m15s per mile but I must admit my legs hurt most if the ti e that I'm running but I'm not particularly out of breath.

I'm aiming to do a couple of events this year, The Great Midlands Run in Sutton and maybe a half marathon with the long term ambition to do a whole marathon.

Any tips or advice that you long term runners have for a relative novice would be gratefully received.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 06, 2014, 09:17:54 AM
Well done on quitting the weed, just stay off it whatever the temptation may be.

Sounds like you've progressed slowly but steadily which is great, set yourself some goals which it sounds like you're doing as well with races & events, maybe consider taking a program to get to a distance, 1/2 marathon or full marathon in time.

In terms of your legs hurting, that will pass as your muscles get stronger and used to the exercise, maybe do a strength session a couple of times a week as well, focus on core stability & leg strength, squats, leg press & lunges, works wonders.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on February 06, 2014, 09:21:18 AM
My story.

I gave up smoking 12 weeks ago after 20 years, the last four of which I became desperate to quit. I decided the best way to keep me off the cigarettes was to get fit, I could only run 1 mile maximum when I smoked and would be blowing out of my arse all of the way round. So take up running I have.

I started out doing 1 then 2 and then 3 miles and I amazed myself at how much easier it was when you don't smoke. Three weeks ago I did my first 5 mile run and then last Saturday I managed 7 miles, over 15 miles in total that week.

My average speed is about 9m15s per mile but I must admit my legs hurt most if the ti e that I'm running but I'm not particularly out of breath.

I'm aiming to do a couple of events this year, The Great Midlands Run in Sutton and maybe a half marathon with the long term ambition to do a whole marathon.

Any tips or advice that you long term runners have for a relative novice would be gratefully received.

If you are starting from scratch now but follow a proper training programme you will be up to speed for the Great Midlands Run and/or the Birmingham Half Marathon dead easy. I found the training schedule on the Birmingham Half Marathon website a real help as a total novice who hadn't run since School when I did it in 2012. The Great Midlands Run is a cracking event as well so I'd thoroughly recommend it. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on February 06, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
My story.

I gave up smoking 12 weeks ago after 20 years, the last four of which I became desperate to quit. I decided the best way to keep me off the cigarettes was to get fit, I could only run 1 mile maximum when I smoked and would be blowing out of my arse all of the way round. So take up running I have.

I started out doing 1 then 2 and then 3 miles and I amazed myself at how much easier it was when you don't smoke. Three weeks ago I did my first 5 mile run and then last Saturday I managed 7 miles, over 15 miles in total that week.

My average speed is about 9m15s per mile but I must admit my legs hurt most if the ti e that I'm running but I'm not particularly out of breath.

I'm aiming to do a couple of events this year, The Great Midlands Run in Sutton and maybe a half marathon with the long term ambition to do a whole marathon.

Any tips or advice that you long term runners have for a relative novice would be gratefully received.

Regarding your legs hurting, in what way? If it's muscular, that will go as you get used to running regularly (it would mean the muscles are under-trained). If it's the knee joints, I would recommend taking this - http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/msm-glucosamine-chondroitin/10530141.html
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on February 06, 2014, 01:56:59 PM
My story.

I gave up smoking 12 weeks ago after 20 years, the last four of which I became desperate to quit. I decided the best way to keep me off the cigarettes was to get fit, I could only run 1 mile maximum when I smoked and would be blowing out of my arse all of the way round. So take up running I have.

I started out doing 1 then 2 and then 3 miles and I amazed myself at how much easier it was when you don't smoke. Three weeks ago I did my first 5 mile run and then last Saturday I managed 7 miles, over 15 miles in total that week.

My average speed is about 9m15s per mile but I must admit my legs hurt most if the ti e that I'm running but I'm not particularly out of breath.

I'm aiming to do a couple of events this year, The Great Midlands Run in Sutton and maybe a half marathon with the long term ambition to do a whole marathon.

Any tips or advice that you long term runners have for a relative novice would be gratefully received.

If you are starting from scratch now but follow a proper training programme you will be up to speed for the Great Midlands Run and/or the Birmingham Half Marathon dead easy. I found the training schedule on the Birmingham Half Marathon website a real help as a total novice who hadn't run since School when I did it in 2012. The Great Midlands Run is a cracking event as well so I'd thoroughly recommend it. 

I think (think) I might go for the Half Marathon in October. It seems far away enough to be not too frightening so why not?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 07, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
I've broken my middle toe of my right foot, pretty much snapped the end of the toe off.  Bugger all you can do about it apart from rest and stick it to the toe next to it.  Reading Half in a few weeks may be a bit of a slog now and I start a 30 week build up to Ironman Wales on 18th Feb.  The bruising has just about finished coming out now, looks a nice black & purple swollen mess right now.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on February 07, 2014, 09:07:46 AM
My story.

I gave up smoking 12 weeks ago after 20 years, the last four of which I became desperate to quit. I decided the best way to keep me off the cigarettes was to get fit, I could only run 1 mile maximum when I smoked and would be blowing out of my arse all of the way round. So take up running I have.

I started out doing 1 then 2 and then 3 miles and I amazed myself at how much easier it was when you don't smoke. Three weeks ago I did my first 5 mile run and then last Saturday I managed 7 miles, over 15 miles in total that week.

My average speed is about 9m15s per mile but I must admit my legs hurt most if the ti e that I'm running but I'm not particularly out of breath.

I'm aiming to do a couple of events this year, The Great Midlands Run in Sutton and maybe a half marathon with the long term ambition to do a whole marathon.

Any tips or advice that you long term runners have for a relative novice would be gratefully received.

If you are starting from scratch now but follow a proper training programme you will be up to speed for the Great Midlands Run and/or the Birmingham Half Marathon dead easy. I found the training schedule on the Birmingham Half Marathon website a real help as a total novice who hadn't run since School when I did it in 2012. The Great Midlands Run is a cracking event as well so I'd thoroughly recommend it. 

I think (think) I might go for the Half Marathon in October. It seems far away enough to be not too frightening so why not?

Go for it. You've already started running so you will be up to speed by then no problem at all. If I can do it anyone can.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on February 24, 2014, 02:08:38 PM
A friend sent me a book called Bullet Proof Knees which has proven to be very helpful in dealing with some leg issues while running - it has made me a huge fan of foam-rolling.

If anyone wants a copy send me a DM with your e-mail address - I can send it to you via Drop Box.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on February 24, 2014, 05:17:37 PM
If you like a foam roller, try using a Rumble Roller.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on February 25, 2014, 11:45:41 AM
I haven't run for over a week now as the slight calf strain I had has turned into a real knee problem. It seems alright if I use a cross trainer or cycle but can't do much more than that.
I guess the best thing to do is just rest it but it's so infuriating.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 25, 2014, 12:33:22 PM
Ice Ice baby.

Always ice.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 02, 2014, 02:35:53 PM
Saw a few Villa shirts out today at the Reading Half Marathon, spoke to one lad near the start with AK on the back of his shirt and saw a few others on the way round.

How did we all do?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: evalast1910 on March 02, 2014, 03:05:15 PM
London is soon going to be on it, I can't wait in all honesty I'm buzzing for it ran 13miles today at around a average of 8min mile! Which is pretty good, where I am there is lots of hills which will help for London! :)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 02, 2014, 03:24:04 PM
Nice, so you're aiming for a sub 4 then?  Tough to do at London so don't be too disappointed.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: evalast1910 on March 02, 2014, 04:13:49 PM
Its my first ever marathon, I tore my knee ligaments in Oct when I started training, so iv only just started running distance but yes if I could get a sub 4 hour it would be some achievement! :) - prob I have is I get bored very easily between 5-10 miles any advice?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 02, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
Yeah, man the fuck up! You won't get bored running London it's great, it's all about pace and knowing you can hold it for 26.2
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 04, 2014, 08:23:20 AM
After two weeks of non running do to knee pain, I bought a foam roller. I can't believe how much those things hurt.
Saying that, I feel like a spring lamb this morning. Hopefully be back in the saddle/on the road asap.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on March 15, 2014, 08:17:23 PM
Registered for the Great Midland Run (Sutton Fun Run) today. Looking for a time of about 1h15m.

8.5 mile run (been running for about 3 months after being a heavy smoker)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on April 11, 2014, 02:27:41 PM
I ran the Brighton marathon last Sunday, my 18th marathon in total.

Finished in 3:57, pretty chuffed
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 14, 2014, 12:51:29 PM
Its my first ever marathon, I tore my knee ligaments in Oct when I started training, so iv only just started running distance but yes if I could get a sub 4 hour it would be some achievement! :) - prob I have is I get bored very easily between 5-10 miles any advice?

And?  How did it go?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on April 14, 2014, 01:08:17 PM
I ran the Brighton marathon last Sunday, my 18th marathon in total.

Finished in 3:57, pretty chuffed

Excellent, well done.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on May 02, 2014, 08:15:18 AM
After two weeks of non running do to knee pain, I bought a foam roller. I can't believe how much those things hurt.
Saying that, I feel like a spring lamb this morning. Hopefully be back in the saddle/on the road asap.

Following on from this - still suffering from knee/leg pain so after two visits to my local GP I've been referred to the physio - closest appointment is 15th September.

I'm trying to improve my quad strength by various exercises (leg lifts etc) but when even a bike ride leaves me hobbling the next day, I'm ready to throw the towel in.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 02, 2014, 10:26:56 AM
I got sent an excellent document called 'Bulletproof Knees' by John Kreeger of this parish a while ago, I shared it with Legion as well.  If you want it you can get it from this link to my Dropbox account, it's well worth a read and hopefully it will help.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j0c5armkrdbak3z/Bulletproof%20Knees%20Manual.pdf

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on May 02, 2014, 11:50:52 AM
I got sent an excellent document called 'Bulletproof Knees' by John Kreeger of this parish a while ago, I shared it with Legion as well.  If you want it you can get it from this link to my Dropbox account, it's well worth a read and hopefully it will help.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j0c5armkrdbak3z/Bulletproof%20Knees%20Manual.pdf



It is excellent too. Comrade Blitz sent me a copy - I've been working my way through the exercises but still in pain. Some days better than others but running completely out of the question for now. I've just got to keep plugging away at it.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on May 06, 2014, 10:07:17 AM
I registered for the Two Castles Run on 8th June (Warwick to Kenilworth) and I'm not going to make it due to injury - if anyone wants to do this run, I'll transfer the details over. Its a £20 entrance fee.

Thought I'd put it on here before I approach the waiting list.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on May 13, 2014, 03:15:04 PM
I got sent an excellent document called 'Bulletproof Knees' by John Kreeger of this parish a while ago, I shared it with Legion as well.  If you want it you can get it from this link to my Dropbox account, it's well worth a read and hopefully it will help.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j0c5armkrdbak3z/Bulletproof%20Knees%20Manual.pdf



It is excellent too. Comrade Blitz sent me a copy - I've been working my way through the exercises but still in pain. Some days better than others but running completely out of the question for now. I've just got to keep plugging away at it.

Supplementing quad strengthening with glute bridges (can't do squats atm) and adductor/abductor strengthening for me at least seems to have accelerated knee recovery. The theory being that if you strengthen everything around the knee it doesn't have to work as hard.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on May 14, 2014, 04:49:33 PM
After not running for approximately 5 weeks due to back problems I managed to get out yesterday. Only did two miles to check the back was ok and it's all fine so I have 2 and and half weeks to train for The Great Midland Fun Run.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on May 15, 2014, 08:03:42 PM
2.35 miles today, 9:10 a mile. Will definitely aim for sub 1h 15 on the run.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on May 16, 2014, 01:59:43 PM
I really miss running along the canals in Brum.

Except for the time I was attacked by a goose. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 17, 2014, 09:26:28 PM
Goosed down by the canal, people pay good money for that.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 24, 2014, 12:35:26 PM
Hit a PB today covering 8.27 miles in 60 minutes in HR Zone 2, little victories, the volume is beginning to pay off.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: AV82EC on May 27, 2014, 04:44:40 PM
Tough Mudder coming up for me in July and have managed to up the training runs to full half marathon once a week with 2-3 runs between 5-10k at a variety of paces.  Allied to some Bootcamp and PT to work on upper body strength and core I've never felt so good! Will probably carry on the running afterwards as I've always wanted to do a Triathlon (next years challenge) so will be looking for some advice on decent beginner training regimes later in the summer.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on June 01, 2014, 07:41:44 AM
Great Midland Fun Run today, my back has still been playing up so not half as fit or mobile as I wanted to be so will be happy to get round in under 1:20 but still have the aim for 1:15. Will see how it goes.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on June 01, 2014, 01:21:35 PM
First ever competitive run and did it in 1h 19min and 32 secs.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on June 01, 2014, 06:51:15 PM
First ever competitive run and did it in 1h 19min and 32 secs.

That's really good for a first attempt. I took 1:19:49 which was an improvement on my first go last year. It just seemed a lot harder work this time, the heat was quite punishing.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on June 01, 2014, 07:11:15 PM
First ever competitive run and did it in 1h 19min and 32 secs.

That's really good for a first attempt. I took 1:19:49 which was an improvement on my first go last year. It just seemed a lot harder work this time, the heat was quite punishing.
Cheers, yes the sun for the first 4 miles or so I found really draining. I had to walk up cardiac hill but it's inspired me to do more.

Looking at the 10k in Shenstone in a few weeks.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 29, 2014, 09:54:59 PM
Has anyone done an ultra marathon?  If so can you recommend a training plan, am thinking about doing some next year instead of Ironman distance triathlon.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on June 30, 2014, 09:21:58 AM
I did the Kepler Challenge a couple of times (60km). They have some good training programmes on the website for people who have trained for the event, link below.

http://www.keplerchallenge.co.nz/content/training
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on July 31, 2014, 01:51:37 PM
Had a check up by a physio and I have meniscus damage and a touch of arthritis. So, I've got to correct my twisted leg action but even then, according to her my running days are over. Looks like I'll have to stick to the cycling.
And the walking.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on August 01, 2014, 08:21:46 AM
Had a check up by a physio and I have meniscus damage and a touch of arthritis. So, I've got to correct my twisted leg action but even then, according to her my running days are over. Looks like I'll have to stick to the cycling.
And the walking.
It happens to us all eventually my friend. Have fun with the cycling.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OzVilla on August 01, 2014, 10:29:31 AM
Got a 10km tough mudder obstacle course this weekend. Has those dangler things that give a small electric shock if you touch them.

Can't wait!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 01, 2014, 10:36:31 AM
I really don't get the attraction of these Tough Mudder events, I'd rather do a measured course half marathon, marathon, or any distance triathlon than run around in stinking puddles.  Still whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 01, 2014, 10:41:15 AM
I really don't get the attraction of these Tough Mudder events, I'd rather do a measured course half marathon, marathon, or any distance triathlon than run around in stinking puddles.  Still whatever floats your boat.

Its the same as mountain biking compared to road cycling.

I used to be a regular MTB'er but wouldn't dream of road-cycling; that's far too dangerous.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 01, 2014, 12:30:10 PM
Last weekend I finally broke the sub-30 minute 5k barrier. Very pleased with that - I'm around 2:30 slower than my PB.

I'm not sure that I've got any distance left in my knee. Hopefully the stationary cycling is helping.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 01, 2014, 12:45:02 PM
I really don't get the attraction of these Tough Mudder events, I'd rather do a measured course half marathon, marathon, or any distance triathlon than run around in stinking puddles.  Still whatever floats your boat.

Its the same as mountain biking compared to road cycling.

I used to be a regular MTB'er but wouldn't dream of road-cycling; that's far too dangerous.

What makes you think road cycling is dangerous?  Is it just other road users that put you off?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OzVilla on August 01, 2014, 01:42:12 PM
I really don't get the attraction of these Tough Mudder events, I'd rather do a measured course half marathon, marathon, or any distance triathlon than run around in stinking puddles.  Still whatever floats your boat.

Well I'm doing a 10km road race in 2 weeks so I'll let you know which was more fun - assuming at east one of them will be of course.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on August 06, 2014, 06:57:28 PM
Anyone doing the Birmingham 10k on 7th September.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on September 16, 2014, 02:51:15 PM
Completed my 24th marathon on Sunday in Birmingham
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 16, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
Completed my 24th marathon on Sunday in Birmingham

Outstanding.

I did Ironman Wales on Sunday, I think my day was probably longer than yours!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on September 16, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Well done to both of you. Did you see Gordon Ramsey doing the Iron Man in Wales? He was supposed to be doing it.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on September 16, 2014, 10:56:58 PM
Ironman? Madness! (I say that as someone who has returned to running after the best part of three decades. I've just done a half marathon and it was hard!)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on September 17, 2014, 08:18:50 AM
Completed my 24th marathon on Sunday in Birmingham

Outstanding.

I did Ironman Wales on Sunday, I think my day was probably longer than yours!

I was following your progress on FB Jon, Superb effort!

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: AV82EC on September 17, 2014, 10:31:54 AM
I really don't get the attraction of these Tough Mudder events, I'd rather do a measured course half marathon, marathon, or any distance triathlon than run around in stinking puddles.  Still whatever floats your boat.

Well I've just done the NW one last Saturday and had a great time. It was  a personal challenge and I got round the 12 miles and 20 odd obstacles in about 2 and a half hours. The one drawback if you're doing it properly and not for a laugh/charity is the amount of time spent queuing at some obstacles so I can quite see your point Jon if you're looking for an element of measurement.

I'll probably do it again but would like something where I can measure how well I'm doing so will probably look at doing a mini or full Tri next year.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: richard moore on September 17, 2014, 12:43:50 PM
I really don't get the attraction of these Tough Mudder events, I'd rather do a measured course half marathon, marathon, or any distance triathlon than run around in stinking puddles.  Still whatever floats your boat.

Nor do I, but then I'm a bit of a running snob, which many decent club runners are! We/they tend to poo poo these events as not for the serious runner and something of a joke. I can, however, see the appeal and why others might really enjoy them. On the same subject, a lot of club runners feel the same about the Great North Run, much fuss about nothing. I have to say it is one of the most boring races I have ever done, long passages of dual carriageway, faceless housing estates, and very few people watching until the end. To describe the gateshead bridge as iconic is pushing it too. There are much better races that get almost zero publicity because they haven't got Mr Mumbler, Brendan Foster, who doesn't notice half of what is going on in a race, to promote it and because they weren't the first of these sorts of races on the scene. The Great South Run, for example, is a much nicer route...
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on September 17, 2014, 12:58:34 PM
I really don't get the attraction of these Tough Mudder events, I'd rather do a measured course half marathon, marathon, or any distance triathlon than run around in stinking puddles.  Still whatever floats your boat.

Nor do I, but then I'm a bit of a running snob, which many decent club runners are! We/they tend to poo poo these events as not for the serious runner and something of a joke. I can, however, see the appeal and why others might really enjoy them. On the same subject, a lot of club runners feel the same about the Great North Run, much fuss about nothing. I have to say it is one of the most boring races I have ever done, long passages of dual carriageway, faceless housing estates, and very few people watching until the end. To describe the gateshead bridge as iconic is pushing it too. There are much better races that get almost zero publicity because they haven't got Mr Mumbler, Brendan Foster, who doesn't notice half of what is going on in a race, to promote it and because they weren't the first of these sorts of races on the scene. The Great South Run, for example, is a much nicer route...

So is the Great Birmingham run.

I personally, would never consider doing the GNR again having ticked it off already. There is absolutely nothing that would make me want to do it again. The London marathon however, I would do every year if I could.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 17, 2014, 03:40:46 PM
Well done to both of you. Did you see Gordon Ramsey doing the Iron Man in Wales? He was supposed to be doing it.

Gordon 'scrotum face' Ramsey pulled out with a week to go with what he claims was an Achilles injury.

I did see Richard Webster the ex Wales and Lions flanker, he completed it in just over 13 hours.  No big deal there really, except he completed the marathon on crutches.  Fakin' nails.

If anyone ever feels the need to do an Ironman triathlon, Wales has to be top of the list, I've done it twice now and it really is the most incredibly tough course but also the most incredibly well supported event I've ever been involved in, the bike route is like Le Tour in places, you cannot see the road just a sea of people up the climb that parts as you ride up the hill, amazing.  9000 feet of vertical climb on the 112 mile route followed by a marathon with around 1200 feet of climb, not for the faint hearted.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: richard moore on September 17, 2014, 05:09:36 PM
Spot on for me DBTW regarding the GNR, I liken it to Spurs. The media fawn all over it, particularly the BBC, when, in my view, it's mostly all hot air and hugely overhyped. I never cease to be amazed at the number of new runners who travel hours to do it as if it's some never to be forgotten bucket list experience. I just smile knowingly. It's all down to Brendan Foster who I consider one of the worst commentators going. His predictions pre- race and during them are nearly always wrong and it seems to take him ages to notice things going on races which you, the viewer, spotted ages ago. I've never done Great Birmingham
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: richard moore on September 17, 2014, 05:10:54 PM
Oh and I agree with you about London, except for the killer sections along the dual carriageway to, and even worse, back from Canary Wharf when you hit the wall
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PGW on September 28, 2014, 12:45:12 PM
Kenya's Dennis Kimetto has just broken WR for the marathon in Berlin - 2:02:57

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/29399623
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on September 28, 2014, 01:30:05 PM
At some point, someone will complete a marathon in under 2 hours. Which is just crazy.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Kingthing on September 29, 2014, 09:41:04 PM

Just ran round Richmond Park (London)...in the dark dodging Deer, a badger rabbits and a cat, 7 miles which for me is amazing, I've been aiming to do it for years and tonight, when I left, I hadn't planned to until I got to the point of no return, Broomfield Hill, once you run down that you're fucked, I ran down it laughing and shouting "this is it"

I stopped for stretch just after Sheen gate but to punish myself spent from there to Richmond gate walking 100m and sprinting(uphill) 100 metres, then from Richmond gate to Kingston gate non stop. Very proud of myself, another two and a half times more and I've done a marathon...piece of pish!         
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on September 30, 2014, 12:21:38 PM

Just ran round Richmond Park (London)...in the dark dodging Deer, a badger rabbits and a cat, 7 miles which for me is amazing, I've been aiming to do it for years and tonight, when I left, I hadn't planned to until I got to the point of no return, Broomfield Hill, once you run down that you're fucked, I ran down it laughing and shouting "this is it"

I stopped for stretch just after Sheen gate but to punish myself spent from there to Richmond gate walking 100m and sprinting(uphill) 100 metres, then from Richmond gate to Kingston gate non stop. Very proud of myself, another two and a half times more and I've done a marathon...piece of pish!         


Nice one.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 30, 2014, 06:14:38 PM

Just ran round Richmond Park (London)...in the dark dodging Deer, a badger rabbits and a cat, 7 miles which for me is amazing, I've been aiming to do it for years and tonight, when I left, I hadn't planned to until I got to the point of no return, Broomfield Hill, once you run down that you're fucked, I ran down it laughing and shouting "this is it"

I stopped for stretch just after Sheen gate but to punish myself spent from there to Richmond gate walking 100m and sprinting(uphill) 100 metres, then from Richmond gate to Kingston gate non stop. Very proud of myself, another two and a half times more and I've done a marathon...piece of pish!         


Broomfield Hill is where I do hill intervals when I work in Kingston, jeez that is a slog after 2 or 3 repeats, mind you a full loop like it sounds you did is pretty undulating especially Richmond Gate to Kingston, that's mostly uphill.  I'll be running in Kingston tomorrow but probably along the river to Esher then Hampton Court and back to Kingston over the bridge before work, hoping this weather holds a bit longer now.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Kingthing on September 30, 2014, 08:36:40 PM

Running is a strange thing, it takes a lot to motivate myself, hate the though of it, hate doing it but strangly the more I do it the further I want to go. Now I've done the Park it'll be the benchmark, I'll have to do something else.   
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on October 02, 2014, 02:14:11 PM
Park Run is 10 years old this week!

http://www.parkrun.org.uk/
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Kingthing on October 10, 2014, 11:54:46 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/get-inspired/29560382


Brilliant!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on October 11, 2014, 11:32:27 PM
I'm gradually speeding up, I did 4.1 miles on Thursday at 8:02 a mile which shaved off a massive 1min07secs from my previous best for this route. Going to try and beat the 8min per mile tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 11, 2014, 11:45:13 PM
Nice job ACVilla

I was off out at 0630 this morning for the first time since 13 Sept (having recovered from the bout with poison oak) - got to the 2nd choice park where I run (there was a cross country meet at the first) only to discover that it was under 4 inches of water. FUCK!!!

Drove back home hitting every fucking red light on the way - and ran on our estate - which I stopped doing ages ago because I was getting chased by dogs. Luckily they were all still asleep.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on October 12, 2014, 09:41:12 AM
Nice job ACVilla

I was off out at 0630 this morning for the first time since 13 Sept (having recovered from the bout with poison oak) - got to the 2nd choice park where I run (there was a cross country meet at the first) only to discover that it was under 4 inches of water. FUCK!!!

Drove back home hitting every fucking red light on the way - and ran on our estate - which I stopped doing ages ago because I was getting chased by dogs. Luckily they were all still asleep.
Strange that, I has visions of being chased by dogs this morning (I don't listen to music when running so my mind wonders).

Anyway, managed my 4.1 mile route this morning in 32:46 which is 7:59 a mile. Another objective achieved, now I'll set myself 5 miles at 8:00 a mile and my 2.3 mile route at 7:45 a mile.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 17, 2014, 01:01:20 PM
 Anyone doing Great Birmingham run on Sunday?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 17, 2014, 01:08:19 PM
Anyone doing Great Birmingham run on Sunday?

Yes. Hoping to improve on 1:57:25 last year but I'll be happy with sub 2 hours.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 18, 2014, 08:21:40 PM
Anyone doing Great Birmingham run on Sunday?

Yes. Hoping to improve on 1:57:25 last year but I'll be happy with sub 2 hours.

Best of luck. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: steffo on October 18, 2014, 08:28:10 PM
My daughter is running it tomorrow for Cancer Research. I am so proud of her. She has done 12 miles and I trust the crowd will take her the extra mile.....
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 19, 2014, 06:00:24 AM
Anyone doing Great Birmingham run on Sunday?

Yes. Hoping to improve on 1:57:25 last year but I'll be happy with sub 2 hours.

Best of luck. 
Thank you!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 19, 2014, 06:01:34 AM
My daughter is running it tomorrow for Cancer Research. I am so proud of her. She has done 12 miles and I trust the crowd will take her the extra mile.....

The adrenaline kicks in once you see the crowds in Broad Street. She'll do it with a sprint finish, no worries!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Villafirst on October 19, 2014, 05:47:59 PM
I ran 1:51 today (1:46 last year). A great day and good PR for Birmingham. Just watched the highlights back on Channel 5 who did a great job with their coverage.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 19, 2014, 05:56:48 PM
2:06:45, which was miles slower than last year! Age is catching me up! Thought it was warmer today than usual.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 19, 2014, 05:59:35 PM
2:06:45, which was miles slower than last year! Age is catching me up! Thought it was warmer today than usual.
I ran 1:51 today (1:46 last year). A great day and good PR for Birmingham. Just watched the highlights back on Channel 5 who did a great job with their coverage.

Well done to both of you.
I saw a bit on Channel 5 and thought it looked great, very well supported. The city looked lovely, too!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 19, 2014, 05:59:49 PM
My daughter is running it tomorrow for Cancer Research. I am so proud of her. She has done 12 miles and I trust the crowd will take her the extra mile.....

The adrenaline kicks in once you see the crowds in Broad Street. She'll do it with a sprint finish, no worries!

Managed 1hr47m a few mins down on last year due to carrying 4-5 extra kilos as had number of injuries.

Hope it went well for all of you
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 19, 2014, 06:04:05 PM
It didn't help that my hamstring decided to start being an awkward sod after about ten miles. I've obviously overdone the biscuits in the last 12 months as well.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 19, 2014, 06:26:58 PM
It didn't help that my hamstring decided to start being an awkward sod after about ten miles. I've obviously overdone the biscuits in the last 12 months as well.

There's no good time for that to happen.  In Brum half marathon it is particularly a bad point.  I could have done with the shower being a little more generous. 

Fine event though. Much improved since its' inception.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on October 19, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
Great thread this. I've been trying to get into running and I think this will help.

How do you guys get up in the morning to go running?  I fucking hate it but strangely enjoy it once out.  I either walk or run to work each day and when walking I feel jealous of the runners, yet getting out of bed with prospect of a run is hard, to say the least.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 19, 2014, 08:05:29 PM
Once you get into the habit you look forward to it and you won't have trouble getting up. Since I've got the bug I've discovered all sorts of places around where I live I didn't know existed while looking for training routes.

If you can't motivate yourself to get out of bed try going for a run when you first get home from work, before you eat.

Have checked the official results and they've got me down as 2:04:48! Don't think that's right but I'll have that!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: steffo on October 19, 2014, 08:13:10 PM
Sub post... daughter did it in 1:46.46 - fantastic effort over £500 for cancer research ... she did it for her mom (who has it)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on October 19, 2014, 08:33:47 PM
If you can't motivate yourself to get out of bed try going for a run when you first get home from work, before you eat.

I admit I'm looking for excuses but it's typically 8pm before I get home and starving.  I was just looking for tips on how to organise oneself.

Any way, I've done 2 half marathons this year.  The first 1.55, the second 1.50 (with an injury at 16km).  I also did an unexpeced training run of 22km at 2.02.  Signed up for the Hampton Court half in February and hoping to do a few others.  One every couple of months is my plan so I never really stop running.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on October 19, 2014, 09:09:54 PM
Run home (if possible)

My sister, with not much training, ran the half marathon today. Her words to us whilst running down Broad Street were: 'I'm gonna die.'

They're putting on a 10k run on 3rd May next year, so think I'll enter that as I would like to include a bit of running in my already hectic fitness regime (cycling, gym, football)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: amfy on October 19, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
If any of you were running in your Villa shirts today, it was me cheering you on Hagley Road, just before 5 ways!

I was there to watch my sister in law who did a creditable 1.55 today - so it sounds like you all came home somewhere around where she did.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 19, 2014, 09:34:02 PM
Sub post... daughter did it in 1:46.46 - fantastic effort over £500 for cancer research ... she did it for her mom (who has it)

What a superb effort, well done to her.

And Eric WW's sister, in fact everybody who ran. A lot of charities will be able to carry on supporting people for longer because of the run, which is the best reason for having it.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 20, 2014, 12:01:30 PM
They are now advertising a new BUPA Birmingham 10K for May 2015. Gonna have to be done!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 20, 2014, 03:42:17 PM
It sounds as though if you were in the left lane of at least some of the waves there may well be a 2 minute-ish discrepancy with your official time so if you were timing yourself your watch will be the reliable one!   
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 24, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
They have now acknowledged that there was a synchronisation error and you can ask for your time to be corrected if you think you were affected. I have had my time put up by 1.57 as I would have felt I was cheating otherwise.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on October 29, 2014, 07:03:54 PM
Suggested stretches for upper hamstrings?  I've never had a problem with it previously so probably neglected stretching this area but it has gone tight in two of the last - say - 4 runs, over a period of about 3 weeks.

Advice appreciated.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 06, 2014, 12:33:30 PM
Suggested stretches for upper hamstrings?  I've never had a problem with it previously so probably neglected stretching this area but it has gone tight in two of the last - say - 4 runs, over a period of about 3 weeks.

Advice appreciated.

http://www.runnersworld.com/stretching/10-tips-to-relieve-hamstring-tightness

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 06, 2014, 07:28:01 PM
Have you got a trigger point roller?  If not, get one and get a good one like one made by Trigger Point themselves and get instructions as well, too easy to do damage to yourself with one, best £40 I spent in the last few years.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on November 06, 2014, 07:55:36 PM
Has anyone done the Stafford Half Marathon? I've just entered and I wondered what the course is like.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OCD on November 06, 2014, 11:01:53 PM
Have you got a trigger point roller?  If not, get one and get a good one like one made by Trigger Point themselves and get instructions as well, too easy to do damage to yourself with one, best £40 I spent in the last few years.

You can use a golf ball or equivalent for trigger points. Personally I like a Rumble Roller which is like a foam roller but with bits sticking out that you roll over to get trigger points. It's been very useful when I've had a stiff back or having strained my back.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 07, 2014, 02:25:25 PM
Ran 8km Wednesday afternoon in my second week of trying to run 2 days each week. Knee feels good. 

I'll aim for 8 - 10 km tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 08, 2014, 10:07:10 PM
Finally able this morning to get back on the course that the local high schools use for cross country events. Ran 10km in 63 mins - glad that I could manage the distance. Now time to work on sub-50 8kms and sub-60 10kms.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on November 18, 2014, 01:42:26 PM
After seeing doctors and physics since March, MRI scan has revealed a scar so am now waiting for an assessment (probably four weeks minimum) before anything can be done. In the meantime I'm still lurching around like a buffoon.
Take care with your knees out there folks.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 18, 2014, 01:46:45 PM
After seeing doctors and physics since March, MRI scan has revealed a scar so am now waiting for an assessment (probably four weeks minimum) before anything can be done. In the meantime I'm still lurching around like a buffoon.
Take care with your knees out there folks.

Sorry to hear that - have you read Bullet Proof Knees?  It's on this thread somewhere (I think JC posted the DropBox link). Hopefully it will be of some use. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on November 18, 2014, 01:53:22 PM
After seeing doctors and physics since March, MRI scan has revealed a scar so am now waiting for an assessment (probably four weeks minimum) before anything can be done. In the meantime I'm still lurching around like a buffoon.
Take care with your knees out there folks.

Sorry to hear that - have you read Bullet Proof Knees?  It's on this thread somewhere (I think JC posted the DropBox link). Hopefully it will be of some use. 

I have - you sent me a copy and it has helped to a degree.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on November 18, 2014, 01:53:36 PM
Has anyone done the Stafford Half Marathon? I've just entered and I wondered what the course is like.

http://www.staffordbc.gov.uk/halfmarathon

Sounds like the new route will take you through a number of the local villages - which are all very pretty. A couple of sharp hills - in doxey and then as you go toward stafford castle on the A518 - but apart from that , fairly flat.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on November 18, 2014, 10:27:55 PM
Has anyone done the Stafford Half Marathon? I've just entered and I wondered what the course is like.

http://www.staffordbc.gov.uk/halfmarathon

Sounds like the new route will take you through a number of the local villages - which are all very pretty. A couple of sharp hills - in doxey and then as you go toward stafford castle on the A518 - but apart from that , fairly flat.

Ta.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on November 21, 2014, 08:23:09 PM
Park run starting in Perry Hall Park, Perry Barr tomorrow.  Going to give it a go.  Gulp
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 23, 2014, 12:16:25 AM
Knocked 1 minute off my last two 10km times this morning..... fucking 31F just after 7am - WTF? Anyway I'm making progress.......

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 23, 2014, 12:18:22 AM
Park run starting in Perry Hall Park, Perry Barr tomorrow.  Going to give it a go.  Gulp

Have a great run Eric! H&V runners represent.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on December 13, 2014, 11:00:45 PM
Knowing that I need to start adding distance now that I've lost the half stone, I set a target for myself today of 12km at 6:30/km.

Finished with 13km at 6:23/km. Was very pleased with my splits when I checked my watch afterwards - very steady. Knee (still) feels good - so hopefully nothing chronic in there. I'm gonna ramp it up and run 10km mid week and longer on the weekend and see how that goes.

I've not been doing any Bullet-Proof Knees type cross training either......perhaps I only need that at higher distances? Anyway - I'm SO FUCKING HAPPY to be running good distances twice a week. Keep on running!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 14, 2014, 09:45:04 PM
Got any races booked in yet?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on December 15, 2014, 06:20:00 PM
Got any races booked in yet?

I really should I suppose - but I have no desire to do races - I'm too OCD - having all those people  around me would freak me out.

Prefer the solitary loneliness....
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on January 22, 2015, 08:46:17 PM
Has anyone done the Stafford Half Marathon? I've just entered and I wondered what the course is like.

http://www.staffordbc.gov.uk/halfmarathon

Sounds like the new route will take you through a number of the local villages - which are all very pretty. A couple of sharp hills - in doxey and then as you go toward stafford castle on the A518 - but apart from that , fairly flat.

Ta.

http://www.raceroutes.co.uk/route/118/141/stafford-half-marathon
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on January 22, 2015, 08:48:35 PM
Cheers.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on January 27, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
Me and few friends started a running group last year in Sedgley. We have now affiliated as an official running club called Sedgley Striders. We are on Facebook if anyone is interested.

We meet at 7pm on a Tuesday and Thursday for beginners looking to start running
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on March 22, 2015, 01:52:32 PM
Has anyone done the Stafford Half Marathon? I've just entered and I wondered what the course is like.

http://www.staffordbc.gov.uk/halfmarathon

Sounds like the new route will take you through a number of the local villages - which are all very pretty. A couple of sharp hills - in doxey and then as you go toward stafford castle on the A518 - but apart from that , fairly flat.

Ta.

http://www.raceroutes.co.uk/route/118/141/stafford-half-marathon



Got round in 1:52:53 which is my half marathon PB so I'm very happy this afternoon.


Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on March 23, 2015, 02:28:15 PM
Has anyone done the Stafford Half Marathon? I've just entered and I wondered what the course is like.

http://www.staffordbc.gov.uk/halfmarathon

Sounds like the new route will take you through a number of the local villages - which are all very pretty. A couple of sharp hills - in doxey and then as you go toward stafford castle on the A518 - but apart from that , fairly flat.

Ta.

http://www.raceroutes.co.uk/route/118/141/stafford-half-marathon



Got round in 1:52:53 which is my half marathon PB so I'm very happy this afternoon.




Well done Richard - running a PB is superb !

Quite a few of my mates did it too - and preferred the new course yesterday from the usual course.

Thinking of doing it myself next year - Mom got diagnosed with cancer on Friday and told she needs chemo therapy or radio therapy now - if she can go through that , then the least I can do is raise some money for cancer research by setting myself a target and doing this.

I have done a few 5K runs a few years ago - but nothing like this distance. So all help, advice and ideas for running schedules to work up to this would be greatly appreciated. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on March 23, 2015, 02:39:58 PM
Cheers!

Having a goal or something like a cause to run for is a good motivator.

Advice would be to follow a plan and stick to it as much as you can. If you haven't run for a long time you will find it hard going to begin with but you will be surprised how soon you pick up speed and stamina. If you go onto the Great Run website you can set it up to recommend a training plan. I went for the "improvers" one this time and evidently it worked.

Best wishes to your Mom.   
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on March 23, 2015, 02:59:28 PM
Thanks Richard - appreciated - on both counts.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on March 24, 2015, 06:57:14 AM
Best of luck with your Mum Fin Feds Dad. Hope she gets through it.

Richard, well done on you PB. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on March 24, 2015, 02:35:43 PM
Best of luck with your Mum Fin Feds Dad. Hope she gets through it.

Richard, well done on you PB. 

Thanks JD - appreciated mate.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Villafirst on April 05, 2015, 10:58:21 AM
Well, it's London Marathon No. 8 for me on the 26th April......have to do my last really long training run of 20 miles tomorrow; hoping for something like 3:50 this year, but we'll see.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OzVilla on April 05, 2015, 12:22:56 PM
I'm doing a 10km and 12 km next month before the Mooloolaba Half Marathon in August. It's my first half and ive never run anywhere near that distance before, maybe 12km is my tops to date.

I know my body can do it, despite the usual 42 year olds knee issues for a 105kg bloke. It's going to be more mental this. Any advice appreciated (other than lose some weight you fat bastard).
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 13, 2015, 08:23:49 AM
I'm doing a 10km and 12 km next month before the Mooloolaba Half Marathon in August. It's my first half and ive never run anywhere near that distance before, maybe 12km is my tops to date.

I know my body can do it, despite the usual 42 year olds knee issues for a 105kg bloke. It's going to be more mental this. Any advice appreciated (other than lose some weight you fat bastard).


Get a heart rate monitor.  Have someone work with you to understand what is your max HR (220 - your age is absolute bobbins) and then train all the time in HR Zone 2 with a few brief sessions in Zone 3, forget distances, just go and run in Zone 2 for set periods, 30 mins, 45 mins, 60 mins etc.  As you get fitter, the distances you cover in those times will increase, as your heart gets fitter you'll need to work harder to stay in Zone 2 i.e. you'll be running faster to work at the same rate.  Mileage junkies never really truly improve as measurably as those who use science.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Villafirst on May 03, 2015, 08:19:34 AM
Belated update: my finish time at the London Marathon last Sunday was a PB: 3:51:56; chuffed to bits with that, and I've raised over £2,000.00 for my chosen charity!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on May 03, 2015, 08:27:29 AM
Good luck to any H and Vers doing the Birmingham 10k today - it's going to be a wet one.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: OzVilla on May 03, 2015, 08:36:14 AM
Belated update: my finish time at the London Marathon last Sunday was a PB: 3:51:56; chuffed to bits with that, and I've raised over £2,000.00 for my chosen charity!

Well done VF.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on May 03, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
And to the tosser who was running the 10k today wearing a 'Justice 4 Lee Mockble' t-shirt, I hope your legs fall off.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 04, 2015, 10:12:59 AM
I ran the hottest half marathon I've ever done yesterday in Aix en Provence as part of a half Ironman triathlon, the Pays D'Aix 70.3 Ironman. It was 25c yesterday but I still managed a 1:44 half, not bad for an old bald bastard after a 1.2 mile swim and a 56 mile ride through the hills and Col's.

Sub 4 in London is very good VF well done.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on May 30, 2015, 07:08:08 AM
Anyone else doing the Great Midlands Fun Run in Sutton Coldfield tomorrow morning? Great pre-planning on my part that was!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on May 31, 2015, 08:40:20 AM
Anyone else doing the Great Midlands Fun Run in Sutton Coldfield tomorrow morning? Great pre-planning on my part that was!
I did it last year for the first time and was planning on doing it this year but decided to let my wife and her sister do it and leave me to look after 5 kids.

It turns out it was a stroke of genius on my behalf with yesterday et al.

Good luck, my wife is striving to beat my time from last year of 1h 19m 32s.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on May 31, 2015, 08:43:17 AM
Cheers. That's pretty much exactly what time I did last year!

Was very warm and sunny last time. Better running conditions today and the frustration of yesterday to work out of the system.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on May 31, 2015, 09:13:55 AM
It looks like great running weather out there today, just need the breeze to drop a notch and it will be perfect.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on May 31, 2015, 05:45:08 PM
1:14:21 which was my PB and a 5 minute improvement on last year. Temperature was a lot kinder and the rain stopped just before the off. Very happy with that.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on May 31, 2015, 07:13:16 PM
1:14:21 which was my PB and a 5 minute improvement on last year. Temperature was a lot kinder and the rain stopped just before the off. Very happy with that.
Well done, great time, my wife got 1:15:15, beating my time from last year by some considerable margin.

Obviously if it had of been as hot as last year she'd have got nowhere near me 😆
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on October 01, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
Has anyone got a ballot place in this years London marathon?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 02, 2015, 11:12:18 AM
No, missed again.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: DBTW on October 02, 2015, 11:24:25 AM
Yep, and me.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 02, 2015, 01:58:26 PM
I missed out too.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 02, 2015, 09:27:31 PM
I'm going to enter Barcelona in March, good warm up for a couple of Ironman races later in the year.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 26, 2015, 11:26:11 AM
Ran 5k on Saturday after taking 4-6 months off to see if my knee needed the rest. Seems to have worked - and I was only 1 min/km off my most recent pace. 

Now I'll see if I can work myself up to two 5k runs per week.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 03, 2015, 12:40:37 PM
Has anyone run along the canal in Walsall? I'm staying at the Premier Inn by the Art Gallery and need a place to run on Saturday morning. Otherwise I'll head over to the arboretum.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on November 04, 2015, 01:36:32 PM
Has anyone run along the canal in Walsall? I'm staying at the Premier Inn by the Art Gallery and need a place to run on Saturday morning. Otherwise I'll head over to the arboretum.

Jesus did it, but most of us run on the towpath alongside the canal...

Joking aside, the towpaths round by me in Tipton and Tividale are great for running, lots of locks so quite picturesque.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on December 01, 2015, 11:00:34 PM
Has anyone got a ballot place in this years London marathon?

Nope, but I've got a charity place!

Which means that shit, I've got to run for 26 miles.  Bugger.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: evalast1910 on February 16, 2016, 10:45:50 PM
Has anyone got a ballot place in this years London marathon?

Nope, but I've got a charity place!

Which means that shit, I've got to run for 26 miles.  Bugger.

Hardest bit of London, in my experience was raising the money for charity, and everyone that gave me a penny I was grateful for and still am, it took me a while to hit my target, so that was the biggest challenge for me!!!

Now to the running I didn't realise I ran it on a torn ACL, and now I have just recovered successfully from said injury, still re-habing I can't WAIT to start running again!!

Are you following and specific plan? - Wait till tapering the best thing in the world.

Advice for London, ENJOY IT - the noise over Tower Bridge is the best feeling in the world, make sure your running top has your name on so people can chant for you!!!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on February 17, 2016, 10:59:21 AM
Yes, I'm following one of the training plans on the London Marathon website. Up to 10-12 mile sessions at the weekend at the moment. I'm both looking forward to it and shitting myself at the same time!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on February 19, 2016, 07:11:00 AM
You will do well Risso (knowing what a bloody minded person you can be). I mean that as a compliment by the way.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on March 01, 2016, 04:17:27 PM
Erm, cheers, I think! :)

It's 8 weeks off now, and am shitting myself.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on March 02, 2016, 08:04:22 AM
You will be fine. Best advice i can give is don't get carried away by the momentum at the start. Pace yourself and don't go off too fast, just get into a nice easy rhythm that is easy. You can always make time up later if you still have energy left.
 . 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on April 11, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
Finally settling into a manageable training pattern - progressed nicely from 5k to 5 miles and now up to 10km as of yesterday.

I might have a half left in me after all.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: UK Redsox on April 14, 2016, 04:50:08 PM
I'm not sure if this has gone national yet but its big news in the local media down here

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Little-Stoke-Parkrun-Decison/story-29097813-detail/story.html

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 14, 2016, 08:31:48 PM
I'm not sure if this has gone national yet but its big news in the local media down here

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Little-Stoke-Parkrun-Decison/story-29097813-detail/story.html



Ridiculous, the council probably still think Park Run make money from it.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on April 28, 2016, 07:56:24 AM
Birmingham International Marathon announced for October 2017. I've done a few half marathons and I think this is the spur to step up to the plate, especially as it passes Villa Park according to the provisional route.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: ACVilla on April 28, 2016, 12:16:51 PM
Birmingham International Marathon announced for October 2017. I've done a few half marathons and I think this is the spur to step up to the plate, especially as it passes Villa Park according to the provisional route.

That's great news, let's hope our course is not as short the Manchester course was *snigger*
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 09, 2016, 12:32:50 PM
On the comeback trail:

Ran 12km yesterday morning - felt great - least amount of knee pain this season as well.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 28, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
I've been averaging around 50km a week the past few weeks, shorter runs I've been able to hit a consistent 5kmh pace, longer runs up to half marathon around 5:20 kmh, when I try to step it up I'm really struggling to pick up and maintain a pace, it feels like if I start at a pace of 5:15 kmh I just can't pick up to a 5kmh pace for longer than a few minutes or so and my tempo just reverts.  I'm feeling strong on the run it's just a tempo thing it feels like and now not sure what to try next. 

I should add I'm a triathlete so also swimming & cycling and can't therefore concentrate solely on the run.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: leylandalbion on June 28, 2016, 05:22:15 PM
Jon assume you mean a kilometre every 5 mins rather the 5kmh..which is about walking pace
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 28, 2016, 05:44:34 PM
Ha yes!  My mistake, 5 minute kms not 5 kmh.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on June 29, 2016, 08:42:32 AM
When i used to hit a plateau like this Jon, I would mix my runs up, such as sand/forest based run or hill runs.I would try and maintain the same pace I did on the flat where possible and then when I was running on the flat I could increase my pace more comfortably.
The other thing I would do is more fartlek training by changing pace more regularly, more surging for short amounts of time. I found after a while i could keep these surges or a quicker pace up longer.
It does take time though which may be a bit more difficult if you are also swimming and cycling regularly.     
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 29, 2016, 11:19:47 AM
That's a great idea JD, pretty much all my runs to date this season have been in HR Zone 2, I haven't done any real intervals or threshold sessions, am going to start adding in pick ups and some intervals over the coming weeks now. A bit of variety won't hurt either.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 01, 2016, 09:57:37 AM
Wednesday nights fartlek speed work session is still in my legs!  Bugger that.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bad English on September 05, 2016, 03:25:37 PM
I have never been a fan of running. I do quite a bit of strenuous mountain-walking in the Pyrenees but am not at all active enough given my propensity for eating and drinking.

She-who-must-be-obeyed is always out running so I have bitten the bullet at 50 and am going to buy a Harley Davidson going to start with a couch to 5k programme. If I like it I hope to do take it from there. I start this evening (it's 35įC now so it will be about 30-32įC later on so I'm pleased that my first run is a bit of jogging and walking).
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on September 05, 2016, 07:50:07 PM
I have never been a fan of running. I do quite a bit of strenuous mountain-walking in the Pyrenees but am not at all active enough given my propensity for eating and drinking.

She-who-must-be-obeyed is always out running so I have bitten the bullet at 50 and am going to buy a Harley Davidson going to start with a couch to 5k programme. If I like it I hope to do take it from there. I start this evening (it's 35įC now so it will be about 30-32įC later on so I'm pleased that my first run is a bit of jogging and walking).

That's exactly how I started with the Couch to 5K app.  I was doing really well with it, and went from the couch stage to the 5K, to then running 15 miles in about 10 weeks.  However a fall caused by tripping in a pothole contributed to a herniated disc in my back, so my running days now seem over before they really got going.

I'm now looking at less jarring activities like cycling instead.

My completely non-expert advice for what it's worth:

Get yourself a good pair of trainers from a shop that measures your gait etc.  I was getting shin splints and proper trainers helped sort them out.  I also found that compression socks helped.
Don't run every day.
Stay off concrete as much as possible.
Stretch loads before and after, and buy one of those knobbly muscle rollers that look like a Keith Vaz sex toy.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 05, 2016, 08:01:54 PM
I have never been a fan of running. I do quite a bit of strenuous mountain-walking in the Pyrenees but am not at all active enough given my propensity for eating and drinking.

She-who-must-be-obeyed is always out running so I have bitten the bullet at 50 and am going to buy a Harley Davidson going to start with a couch to 5k programme. If I like it I hope to do take it from there. I start this evening (it's 35įC now so it will be about 30-32įC later on so I'm pleased that my first run is a bit of jogging and walking).

That's exactly how I started with the Couch to 5K app.  I was doing really well with it, and went from the couch stage to the 5K, to then running 15 miles in about 10 weeks.  However a fall caused by tripping in a pothole contributed to a herniated disc in my back, so my running days now seem over before they really got going.

I'm now looking at less jarring activities like cycling instead.

My completely non-expert advice for what it's worth:

Get yourself a good pair of trainers from a shop that measures your gait etc.  I was getting shin splints and proper trainers helped sort them out.  I also found that compression socks helped.
Don't run every day.
Stay off concrete as much as possible.
Stretch loads before and after, and buy one of those knobbly muscle rollers that look like a Keith Vaz sex toy.

What Risso says plus if it hurts ice it.

Birmingham has a marathon in 2017 as well, so a good time to start training for it.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on September 05, 2016, 09:33:42 PM
I've just signed up for the Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham for July 2017.
It will be the second time I have done this event and my 6th Ironman overall.
The last time I participated in 2015 the weather was truly awful so I'm owed some good weather.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bad English on September 05, 2016, 09:50:14 PM
I wondered why there was no report of your marathon debut Martin. Anyway ta for the tips. I just went and bought myself a pair of Asics that were recommended for their cushioning ability (and were reduced from Ä79.99 to Ä39.99). I will move onto properly fitted-shoes once I see if I am going to keep it up. I shall google the sex-toy thing.

I enjoyed the first session and am looking forward to the second in two day's time. Jon, who knows. Brum marathon or I might end up doing the 34km, 2100m ascent Canigou race  (http://anglophone-direct.com/event/canigou-race-vernet-les-bains/). ;-)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Countryside Villain on September 06, 2016, 06:26:47 PM
I've just been for my first run in a long long time.  Having recently hit 40 and recently failed in my goal to be fit at 40, I figured I should start.  I used to run...about 10 years ago... and have a couple of half marathons under my belt but I'm so out of shape now I need to fix things before they get too out of hand.  The gut has expanded and I feel physically out of shape.  I just want to be able to enjoy my food and wine without popping buttons on my shirts.

For first run done Link to Strava (https://www.strava.com/activities/702636215?utm_content=16955243&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=twitter #strava) and I'm not dead.  My knee started giving me worries after about a mile though so that could be a problem going forward.  Unfamiliar neighbourhood to so reckon I could shave time if I wasn't looking over my shoulder.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on September 06, 2016, 06:46:22 PM
I have never been a fan of running. I do quite a bit of strenuous mountain-walking in the Pyrenees but am not at all active enough given my propensity for eating and drinking.

She-who-must-be-obeyed is always out running so I have bitten the bullet at 50 and am going to buy a Harley Davidson going to start with a couch to 5k programme. If I like it I hope to do take it from there. I start this evening (it's 35įC now so it will be about 30-32įC later on so I'm pleased that my first run is a bit of jogging and walking).

That's exactly how I started with the Couch to 5K app.  I was doing really well with it, and went from the couch stage to the 5K, to then running 15 miles in about 10 weeks.  However a fall caused by tripping in a pothole contributed to a herniated disc in my back, so my running days now seem over before they really got going.

I'm now looking at less jarring activities like cycling instead.

My completely non-expert advice for what it's worth:

Get yourself a good pair of trainers from a shop that measures your gait etc.  I was getting shin splints and proper trainers helped sort them out.  I also found that compression socks helped.
Don't run every day.
Stay off concrete as much as possible.
Stretch loads before and after, and buy one of those knobbly muscle rollers that look like a Keith Vaz sex toy.

What Risso says plus if it hurts ice it.

Birmingham has a marathon in 2017 as well, so a good time to start training for it.

Really good advice.

The other thing I would add is to try to find a group to run with.  There is nothing like the discipline of having to be at a certain place at a certain time to make sure you stick at it.  I started running again three years ago after two decades of increasingly sloth-like existence.  I did my own version of Couch to 5k and started doing my local parkrun, however if I hadn't joined my local recreational running group a few months in I doubt whether I'd have stuck at it.  We meet every week regardless of the time of year or the weather, and, even if sometimes I hate it when I'm doing it, I wouldn't miss it and get really annoyed if something work-related means I can't go.  On Saturday I will do my 100th parkrun, I do half a dozen or so official 10k runs each year and a 1/2 marathon next month.  I won't win any prizes and I'm still a plodder, but it's been a lifestyle change that I've really embraced.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bad English on September 06, 2016, 08:13:13 PM
Yes. I agree with the idea of running with peers which forces you to get out there and do it. I've also noticed that loads of people run together and are chatting away while they do it which can be a great help. My missus is well-chuffed with my desire to run so she wants to do it with me even though she can run far more than I can at this stage. I love doing things with her (fnaar!) so this is added marital harmony. Win-win!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Left Side on September 06, 2016, 09:33:36 PM
Plantar Fasciiatus... what do you know about it, has anyone had it? I have had pain in my ankle for 6-8 weeks and changed the footwear, added new inserts that weren't cheap and wear a compressing sock at night and it still is painful after light jogging. I've also checked youtube for stretches and although the pain has eased it would be nice to know if this is normal to expect it to last this long?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on September 06, 2016, 09:57:51 PM
Plantar Fasciiatus... what do you know about it, has anyone had it? I have had pain in my ankle for 6-8 weeks and changed the footwear, added new inserts that weren't cheap and wear a compressing sock at night and it still is painful after light jogging. I've also checked youtube for stretches and although the pain has eased it would be nice to know if this is normal to expect it to last this long?

I think Jon Crofts said he got it after coming back from holiday recently.  Have never had had it, but did see a special kind of sock that had a piece of cord from the toe that attached to your knee that you wear overnight I think.  Sort of like an abnormally long Aladdin's shoe.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 07, 2016, 08:23:10 AM
Plantar Fasciiatus... what do you know about it, has anyone had it? I have had pain in my ankle for 6-8 weeks and changed the footwear, added new inserts that weren't cheap and wear a compressing sock at night and it still is painful after light jogging. I've also checked youtube for stretches and although the pain has eased it would be nice to know if this is normal to expect it to last this long?

I think Jon Crofts said he got it after coming back from holiday recently.  Have never had had it, but did see a special kind of sock that had a piece of cord from the toe that attached to your knee that you wear overnight I think.  Sort of like an abnormally long Aladdin's shoe.

Painful isn't it?  The plantar runs under the heel and the discomfort is caused as the tendon heals in its unstretched position overnight, as you start to stretch and tear it again by walking and stretching it hurts like hell, usually the pain decreases during the day but all comes back again the next morning.
You can cure it or at least be rid of it in a couple of days by using one of these when at rest or asleep.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ultimate-performance-ultimate-plantar-fascia-sock/

Mine was brought on by wearing flip flops or no shoes for 3 weeks on holiday in the summer.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 07, 2016, 08:26:40 AM
I've just signed up for the Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham for July 2017.
It will be the second time I have done this event and my 6th Ironman overall.
The last time I participated in 2015 the weather was truly awful so I'm owed some good weather.


If you want bad weather you should have done Ironman Wales in 2014, swimming in 4 foot high waves was fun.

I've got Ironman Weymouth this weekend still toying with trying to squeeze another one in before year end somewhere warm and sunny.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on September 07, 2016, 05:39:44 PM
I've just signed up for the Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham for July 2017.
It will be the second time I have done this event and my 6th Ironman overall.
The last time I participated in 2015 the weather was truly awful so I'm owed some good weather.


If you want bad weather you should have done Ironman Wales in 2014, swimming in 4 foot high waves was fun.

I've got Ironman Weymouth this weekend still toying with trying to squeeze another one in before year end somewhere warm and sunny.

Swimming in the sea Jon, silly that. Weymouth would be interesting. I am doing Outlaw again because it's nearby. I'm fed up with spending a fortune on entry fees, flights and accommodation. Good luck.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 07, 2016, 06:06:35 PM
I've just signed up for the Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham for July 2017.
It will be the second time I have done this event and my 6th Ironman overall.
The last time I participated in 2015 the weather was truly awful so I'm owed some good weather.


If you want bad weather you should have done Ironman Wales in 2014, swimming in 4 foot high waves was fun.

I've got Ironman Weymouth this weekend still toying with trying to squeeze another one in before year end somewhere warm and sunny.

Swimming in the sea Jon, silly that. Weymouth would be interesting. I am doing Outlaw again because it's nearby. I'm fed up with spending a fortune on entry fees, flights and accommodation. Good luck.

I quite fancy Outlaw one day, just to see how quick I can go over 140.6 miles, I've always done hilly events, Wales twice, Nice twice, Lake Placid & Maryland, Outlaw I've heard is flat and fast, sub 10 would be good.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: The Left Side on September 07, 2016, 06:28:09 PM
Plantar Fasciiatus... what do you know about it, has anyone had it? I have had pain in my ankle for 6-8 weeks and changed the footwear, added new inserts that weren't cheap and wear a compressing sock at night and it still is painful after light jogging. I've also checked youtube for stretches and although the pain has eased it would be nice to know if this is normal to expect it to last this long?

I think Jon Crofts said he got it after coming back from holiday recently.  Have never had had it, but did see a special kind of sock that had a piece of cord from the toe that attached to your knee that you wear overnight I think.  Sort of like an abnormally long Aladdin's shoe.

Painful isn't it?  The plantar runs under the heel and the discomfort is caused as the tendon heals in its unstretched position overnight, as you start to stretch and tear it again by walking and stretching it hurts like hell, usually the pain decreases during the day but all comes back again the next morning.
You can cure it or at least be rid of it in a couple of days by using one of these when at rest or asleep.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ultimate-performance-ultimate-plantar-fascia-sock/

Mine was brought on by wearing flip flops or no shoes for 3 weeks on holiday in the summer.


Thanks Jon. Yes, very painful but it is improving... I have a compression sock that does help along with the calf stretches but I will look into this too. Cheers for the info!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on September 08, 2016, 05:55:46 PM
I've just signed up for the Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham for July 2017.
It will be the second time I have done this event and my 6th Ironman overall.
The last time I participated in 2015 the weather was truly awful so I'm owed some good weather.


If you want bad weather you should have done Ironman Wales in 2014, swimming in 4 foot high waves was fun.

I've got Ironman Weymouth this weekend still toying with trying to squeeze another one in before year end somewhere warm and sunny.

Swimming in the sea Jon, silly that. Weymouth would be interesting. I am doing Outlaw again because it's nearby. I'm fed up with spending a fortune on entry fees, flights and accommodation. Good luck.

I quite fancy Outlaw one day, just to see how quick I can go over 140.6 miles, I've always done hilly events, Wales twice, Nice twice, Lake Placid & Maryland, Outlaw I've heard is flat and fast, sub 10 would be good.

That would be a massive ask Jon. It's flat not downhill. With good weather I'd hope for a pb which would see me go under 11.15. Have to get it down before I'm too old.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 08, 2016, 06:54:38 PM
I've just signed up for the Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham for July 2017.
It will be the second time I have done this event and my 6th Ironman overall.
The last time I participated in 2015 the weather was truly awful so I'm owed some good weather.


If you want bad weather you should have done Ironman Wales in 2014, swimming in 4 foot high waves was fun.

I've got Ironman Weymouth this weekend still toying with trying to squeeze another one in before year end somewhere warm and sunny.

Swimming in the sea Jon, silly that. Weymouth would be interesting. I am doing Outlaw again because it's nearby. I'm fed up with spending a fortune on entry fees, flights and accommodation. Good luck.

I quite fancy Outlaw one day, just to see how quick I can go over 140.6 miles, I've always done hilly events, Wales twice, Nice twice, Lake Placid & Maryland, Outlaw I've heard is flat and fast, sub 10 would be good.

That would be a massive ask Jon. It's flat not downhill. With good weather I'd hope for a pb which would see me go under 11.15. Have to get it down before I'm too old.

I think I could go sub 10 on the right course, I can do the swim under an hour and a 3:35 marathon, I just need a kind, flat or downhill bike route!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bad English on September 10, 2016, 09:45:44 AM
Well, among all the incredible feats of the seasoned athletes on H&V, I did my first week of couch to 5K. Not being a total Jabba the Hutt meant that it was quite easy.  Looking forward to next week's sessions.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on September 10, 2016, 12:03:30 PM
Well done.

I've this morning completed my 100th parkrunners.  Again, not the greatest feat listed on here, but I'm immensely proud of this particular milestone.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on September 10, 2016, 12:16:34 PM
Well done.

I've this morning completed my 100th parkrunners.  Again, not the greatest feat listed on here, but I'm immensely proud of this particular milestone.

It's a great achievement, well done.  Not everybody has to be Mo Farah, and that shows an impressive amount of dedication.

I've had a relatively pain-free week with my back, so am daring to dream I might be able to start again.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 10, 2016, 06:07:49 PM
Hate running.  Its the one thing that goes on you when you get older.  Can still swim and cycle just the same or thereabouts. 

People are always trying to get me to do a tri at the lake I swim at - its a massive no no.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 20, 2016, 01:29:03 PM
I've just signed up for the Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham for July 2017.
It will be the second time I have done this event and my 6th Ironman overall.
The last time I participated in 2015 the weather was truly awful so I'm owed some good weather.


If you want bad weather you should have done Ironman Wales in 2014, swimming in 4 foot high waves was fun.

I've got Ironman Weymouth this weekend still toying with trying to squeeze another one in before year end somewhere warm and sunny.

Swimming in the sea Jon, silly that. Weymouth would be interesting. I am doing Outlaw again because it's nearby. I'm fed up with spending a fortune on entry fees, flights and accommodation. Good luck.

I quite fancy Outlaw one day, just to see how quick I can go over 140.6 miles, I've always done hilly events, Wales twice, Nice twice, Lake Placid & Maryland, Outlaw I've heard is flat and fast, sub 10 would be good.

That would be a massive ask Jon. It's flat not downhill. With good weather I'd hope for a pb which would see me go under 11.15. Have to get it down before I'm too old.

I think I could go sub 10 on the right course, I can do the swim under an hour and a 3:35 marathon, I just need a kind, flat or downhill bike route!

I think I've found the right course.  Ironman Copenhagen, August 20 2017 I'll be all out to try and break the magic 10.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 25, 2016, 11:23:03 AM
Date for your diaries Sunday 15th October 2017, the first ever Birmingham International Marathon.

Entries open Tuesday 4th October at 12:00.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on September 25, 2016, 11:43:27 AM
Date for your diaries Sunday 15th October 2017, the first ever Birmingham International Marathon.

Entries open Tuesday 4th October at 12:00.

If you're doing this year's half then you can enter from this Friday.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bad English on October 04, 2016, 11:55:10 AM
I am just over halfway through my Couch to 5k programme. Tomorrow I'm doing the dreaded Week 5 Day 3 run which is "a 5 minute brisk walk then 20 minutes jog with no walking breaks". I'm quite pleased with myself because up to now I've been able to do every session quite easily and I can see my stamina and recovery rate improving all the time. My weight is coming down and my stomach is less, erm, inclined to mould itself to my T-shirts...I'm hooked.

I'll be doing the penultimate week in East Germany (I still like to call it that) which is three 25 minute jogs. One day will be in the Tiergarten in Berlin which makes it even more fun. We will be in Madrid after that so I'm hoping to do one of the runs in the Retiro Park too.

I say 'I' but I mean 'we' because SWMBO is doing the programme with me (although she easily does 5ks on her own).We are hoping to consolidate our 5k prowess then push on to the 10k programme and see how it goes. I'm getting a the odd twinge form lmy right knee below the meniscus, I'd hate that to get worse and stop me from continuing. We shall see.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 04, 2016, 12:37:10 PM
I am just over halfway through my Couch to 5k programme.... ...I'm hooked.

Fabulous! Sent a DM w/ a link that might help with the knee pain.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: LeeS on October 11, 2016, 08:52:28 AM
Did the Royal Parks Half on Sunday. When I did it last year it was my first ever half and I managed 1:45'10''. I'd been really determined to break 1:45 so was pretty gutted about those extra 10 seconds. This year I paced it a lot better and also used energy gels for the first time. Managed a 1:39'39''. Even got a sprint finish in. 😀

I'm 40 next month so I wonder if I may have peaked now...
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on October 12, 2016, 07:59:35 AM
Did the Royal Parks Half on Sunday. When I did it last year it was my first ever half and I managed 1:45'10''. I'd been really determined to break 1:45 so was pretty gutted about those extra 10 seconds. This year I paced it a lot better and also used energy gels for the first time. Managed a 1:39'39''. Even got a sprint finish in. 😀

I'm 40 next month so I wonder if I may have peaked now...

Well done Lee, that's a great effort.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: LeeS on October 12, 2016, 01:24:37 PM
Did the Royal Parks Half on Sunday. When I did it last year it was my first ever half and I managed 1:45'10''. I'd been really determined to break 1:45 so was pretty gutted about those extra 10 seconds. This year I paced it a lot better and also used energy gels for the first time. Managed a 1:39'39''. Even got a sprint finish in. 😀

I'm 40 next month so I wonder if I may have peaked now...

Well done Lee, that's a great effort.

Cheers, JD.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 16, 2016, 07:58:05 AM
Best of luck to all H and V'ers doing the Birmingham Half today. Looking like we are in for a drenching.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bad English on October 22, 2016, 07:30:50 AM
I am at the end of the seventh week of the couch to 5k programme. I am supposed to do the third of three 25 minute jogs this week (approx 4.2km for me). However, my right knee is painful and the outside of my left ankle too. I have an x-ray and a scan scheduled for the first week of November and my doctor prescribed some Ketoprofen (anti-inflammation). He said not to increase my runs when I was on 22 mins but I added the three minutes anyway. Currently, even walking is giving me gip (stiffness, pain) and I'm grimacing now and again as I hobble about

I'm sitting here in ex-DDR, the sun is out and I want to do my run but am worried I'll make things worse. I'm not ok Hun, as it were. Do I  say fuck it and run or do I say don't risk it?

Yours, gutted.

Edit. While I still welcome any advice or comments, she-who-must-be-obeyed has told me "[I'm] not going running in that state you fucking twat" or words to that effect.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on October 22, 2016, 08:22:09 AM
Just off to do Walsall park run at the Arboretum.  Then home for a soak in a nice hot bath to get ready for the match this afternoon. Still on cloud 9 after trip to Reading the other night so hoping for a PB!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: 260475 on October 22, 2016, 08:52:05 AM
Don't know your age group or lifestyle, but could be Gout if you are bevvying. Get off the piss and particularly avoid wheat beer if you are in the DDR. Watch the sugary drinks esp those with Fructose in them. There are reams of books on the subject, and certain exotic foods will trigger it, but I found it was mainly beer and sugars that had to be moderated, far easier than carrying a food list around everywhere you go.

Sugar is hidden in McD's (shite anyway), ketchup, mushy peas, gravy, chinese and curries (avoid the sauces) fizzy drinks, cakes , sweets (obvious but you don't realise how much) etc. Emergency remedies are a 'water only' detox, and keep your joints warm in bed (socks - yes!)

Finally take Vitamin D3 daily - non prescription

Worked for me.

Or maybe you have a sports injury? !!! Good luck
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 24, 2016, 12:24:28 PM
Edit. While I still welcome any advice or comments

Did you have a gait analysis before you started running? It could be something as simple as not having the correct shoes for pronation etc. and cushioning. You could also take Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM for your joints. Yoga helped along with the Bullet Proof knees exercises.



 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bad English on October 24, 2016, 09:44:44 PM
Short answer. No. Ankle now swollen from walking around the DDR. I won't be running for a while.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on November 01, 2016, 12:36:36 AM
Short answer. No. Ankle now swollen from walking around the DDR. I won't be running for a while.

Take it easy, and don't be tempted to run through injury. As I found out, you can make things much, much worse.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 07, 2016, 12:05:17 PM
Heard while watching the NYC Marathon yesterday:

"Ghirmay Ghebreslassie is a big Man Utd fan."

Of course he is.....
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 09, 2016, 12:13:37 PM
Need to lose a stone (probably more like 1.5 stones) - so I'm now running on a hilly course to increase the cardio and I've also "gone over" to the keto diet - which means no booze. Currently in week 6 of being a sober bore and can see my times improving and the flab disappearing.

My first official weigh-in is 23 November. Hoping to have lost the weight by Christmas. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 09, 2016, 09:05:40 PM
Have you a HR monitor?  Do you know your max HR and therefore what Zone 2 HR is?  That's where you'll burn fat Blitz,  not doing hills.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: German James on November 09, 2016, 09:15:11 PM
East Germany (I still like to call it that)
You are right to do so.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 10, 2016, 11:53:30 AM
Have you a HR monitor?  Do you know your max HR and therefore what Zone 2 HR is?  That's where you'll burn fat Blitz,  not doing hills.

Thanks - I'll have to do a bit of research. Do you need to get into Zone 2 for a sustained period or over intervals?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 10, 2016, 12:48:46 PM
Have you a HR monitor?  Do you know your max HR and therefore what Zone 2 HR is?  That's where you'll burn fat Blitz,  not doing hills.

Thanks - I'll have to do a bit of research. Do you need to get into Zone 2 for a sustained period or over intervals?

In HR Zone 2 you burn fat & oxygen so it's about sticking in Z2 for sustained periods, intervals are typically done in Zones 4 & maybe 5 and burn sugar in the form of glycogen, you've a very limited supply hence why you only train there for very short periods.
It's hard at first to get into and stay in Z2, as the countryside undulates you'll need to moderate speed and even walk hillier sections which feels counter intuitive but trust me it works, over time your Z2 HR will increase meaning you'll have to work harder to get your heart to beat fast enough to be in Z2.

Don Finks books are a great start but are focussed on triathlon but the science and principles are all the same, HR Z2 is where fat burning takes place and of course is where endurance is built.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Villafirst on February 26, 2017, 03:02:57 PM
Just done 11 miles towards the London Marathon on 23rd April. 13.1 miles for next Sunday!.

Just noticed controversy over Alberto Salazar - Mo Farah's coach in America. I'm surprised Farah didn't sever links with Salazar when rumours surfaced a couple of years ago over performance enhancing drugs.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: paul_e on March 05, 2017, 06:58:30 PM
Not sure if thiscis right place for it but I wanted to put out something about the 2 stunning european indoor golds for Laura Muir, absolutely brilliant runs in both finals, I think she will be special in a few more years.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Boz on March 08, 2017, 02:32:50 PM
Just done 11 miles towards the London Marathon on 23rd April. 13.1 miles for next Sunday!.

Just noticed controversy over Alberto Salazar - Mo Farah's coach in America. I'm surprised Farah didn't sever links with Salazar when rumours surfaced a couple of years ago over performance enhancing drugs.

Why would he, there is no actual evidence against Salazar only media generated information to increase circulation. The recent use of vitamin D and Carnitine, both legal substances seem to be another attempt to muck rake.

As Farah has been tested on numerous occasions and apart from missing a test one time, there doesn't seem to be any evidence against the athlete himself.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on April 18, 2017, 07:16:22 PM
Saw an article on BBC website about this bloke that uses data etc to catch marathon cheats.

Here are two from his blog:

https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2017/03/runner-caught-using-bib-mule-2016-new-york-city-marathon-boston-qualifying-attempt.html

https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2017/02/runner-disqualified-after-claiming-2nd.html



 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on April 18, 2017, 07:19:40 PM
Saw an article on BBC website about this bloke that uses data etc to catch marathon cheats.

Here are two from his blog:

https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2017/03/runner-caught-using-bib-mule-2016-new-york-city-marathon-boston-qualifying-attempt.html

https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2017/02/runner-disqualified-after-claiming-2nd.html



 

I saw that. He also cleared a bloke wrongly accused of cheating at the London Marathon. Really interesting stuff.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 27, 2017, 09:01:07 PM
Did my first 5k park run today and managed to do it in 24.13, which I was happy with as I'd targeted 25 mins.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 02, 2017, 12:11:42 PM
Did my first 5k park run today and managed to do it in 24.13, which I was happy with as I'd targeted 25 mins.

That's a great time. Well done.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 02, 2017, 12:15:52 PM
I've taken JC's advice and have upgrade to an TomTom Spark 3 Cardio  - as a result I now have a spare Garmin Forerunner 10 that I'm happy to give to anyone looking for a basic running watch. It's very good for keeping an eye on your pace, tracking distance etc.

The only thing that it doesn't do is measure your heart rate. DM me if interested.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on June 02, 2017, 12:39:57 PM
Anyone doing the Sutton Fun Run on Sunday?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 03, 2017, 11:20:17 AM
Did my first 5k park run today and managed to do it in 24.13, which I was happy with as I'd targeted 25 mins.

That's a great time. Well done.

Cheers mate. Managed to get 23.33 this week and break the top 100 in the run.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 03, 2017, 07:25:17 PM
I've taken JC's advice and have upgrade to an TomTom Spark 3 Cardio  - as a result I now have a spare Garmin Forerunner 10 that I'm happy to give to anyone looking for a basic running watch. It's very good for keeping an eye on your pace, tracking distance etc.

The only thing that it doesn't do is measure your heart rate. DM me if interested.

Have you managed to pair some Bluetooth headphones with it yet?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 05, 2017, 12:10:19 PM
Have you managed to pair some Bluetooth headphones with it yet?

No - is that an issue with them? Besides I can't listen to music when I run.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 05, 2017, 12:19:12 PM
Did my first HRM-tracked run on Sunday. What felt like a fairly steady run (and much slower than last weeks' negative splits 8km) was actually at 90% of my maximum heart rate - I reckon that's Zone 3?

I did check TomTom's zones on the watch and they weren't quite correct (from what I've read) so I've adjusted them so "Fat burn" is in the 70%-80% range. I'm going to add some time on the stationary bike in Zone 2 to see how that goes as well. I don't think I can run slower and have it feel natural.
 
(http://thumb.ibb.co/cQhxDF/HR.jpg) (http://ibb.co/cQhxDF)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: AV82EC on June 06, 2017, 12:12:12 PM
Did my first HRM-tracked run on Sunday. What felt like a fairly steady run (and much slower than last weeks' negative splits 8km) was actually at 90% of my maximum heart rate - I reckon that's Zone 3?

I did check TomTom's zones on the watch and they weren't quite correct (from what I've read) so I've adjusted them so "Fat burn" is in the 70%-80% range. I'm going to add some time on the stationary bike in Zone 2 to see how that goes as well. I don't think I can run slower and have it feel natural.
 
(http://thumb.ibb.co/cQhxDF/HR.jpg) (http://ibb.co/cQhxDF)

Hi CB if you're training in 70-80% zone you're in endurance mode and starting to burn glycogen rather than fat. At 90% effort you're getting up to an anaerobic workout and VO2 max levels zone 4 to 5 which means glycogen burn only. I suppose it depends how accurate you feel your HR monitor is? Wrist or chest?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 06, 2017, 12:18:46 PM
Hi CB if you're training in 70-80% zone you're in endurance mode and starting to burn glycogen rather than fat. At 90% effort you're getting up to an anaerobic workout and VO2 max levels zone 4 to 5 which means glycogen burn only. I suppose it depends how accurate you feel your HR monitor is? Wrist or chest?

It's a wrist monitor. Should I aim for 60% to 70% then? Last night I found that it was much easier to stay in the 60% to 70% range on the indoor cycle
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: AV82EC on June 07, 2017, 05:27:50 PM
Hi CB if you're training in 70-80% zone you're in endurance mode and starting to burn glycogen rather than fat. At 90% effort you're getting up to an anaerobic workout and VO2 max levels zone 4 to 5 which means glycogen burn only. I suppose it depends how accurate you feel your HR monitor is? Wrist or chest?

It's a wrist monitor. Should I aim for 60% to 70% then? Last night I found that it was much easier to stay in the 60% to 70% range on the indoor cycle

Hi CB

Several PTs and a few medical people have said commercially available HRMs can be inaccurate but my own view is they give you a rough idea of where you are and for the average person they're perfectly fine though I think chest are better than wrist. Have a look at this link to wiki and an article on aerobic vs anaerobic fitness and see if that helps. I found the chart very helpful in trying to mix up the intensities of my Tri training

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_exercise

I would agree that it does feel strange running at a different pace if you're used to run in a different zone. I actually cracked it by running and cycling with my girlfriend (much slower) which helped me with pacing.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 12, 2017, 04:41:23 PM
Did my first HRM-tracked run on Sunday. What felt like a fairly steady run (and much slower than last weeks' negative splits 8km) was actually at 90% of my maximum heart rate - I reckon that's Zone 3?

I did check TomTom's zones on the watch and they weren't quite correct (from what I've read) so I've adjusted them so "Fat burn" is in the 70%-80% range. I'm going to add some time on the stationary bike in Zone 2 to see how that goes as well. I don't think I can run slower and have it feel natural.
 
(http://thumb.ibb.co/cQhxDF/HR.jpg) (http://ibb.co/cQhxDF)

Blitz, how have you calculated your Zones and your max HR?

If it's 220 minus age then it just won't be accurate, you need to get a proper test of max HR to calculate zones accurately, you need to be beasted to collapse on a treadmill I'm afraid, whilst you're there they should be able to tell you Vo2 max, lactate thresholds etc as well.  You local Uni will probably be able to do the testing for you.

There isn't really any such thing as a fat burning zone http://www.runningforfitness.org/faq/weightloss

These are the zones 1 thru 4 based on my max HR of 186 thus proving that 220 - age is bollocks.

Z1
Long, slow runs, easy or recovery runs   
Training in this zone improves the ability of your heart to pump blood and improve the musclesí ability to utilize oxygen.  The body becomes more efficient at feeding the working muscles, and learns to metabolise fat as a source of fuel.
60-70%   136 Ė 148

Z2
Aerobic zone or "target heart rate zone"
Most effective for overall cardiovascular fitness. Increases your cardio-respitory capacity: that is, the your ability to transport oxygenated blood to the muscle cells and carbon dioxide away from the cells.  Also effective for increasing overall muscle strength.
70-80%   148 Ė 161

Z3
Anaerobic zone   
The point at which the body cannot remove lactic acid as quickly as it is produced is called the lactate threshold or anaerobic threshold. It generally occurs at about 80-88% of the Heart Rate Reserve. Training in this zone helps to increase the lactate threshold, which improves performance. Training in this zone is hard: your muscles are tired, your breathing is heavy.
80-90%   161 Ė 173

Z4
VO2 max
"Red line zone"   
You should only train in this zone if you re very fit, and only for very short periods of time. Lactic acid develops quickly as you are operating in oxygen debt to the muscles   The value of training in this zone is you can increase your fast twitch muscle fibers which increase speed.
90-100%   173 Ė 186
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 13, 2017, 07:11:22 PM
I've set up a Strava group called HeroesandVillains, if you request to join I'll let you in so you can share your swims, bikes, runs, hikes, paddles etc.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on June 13, 2017, 08:51:23 PM
Is that like Grinder?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on June 13, 2017, 09:20:18 PM
I've set up a Strava group called HeroesandVillains, if you request to join I'll let you in so you can share your swims, bikes, runs, hikes, paddles etc.

I've sent a request.  I'm sure my efforts will seem pretty feeble in comparison to yours!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: thick_mike on June 13, 2017, 09:26:08 PM
I've set up a Strava group called HeroesandVillains, if you request to join I'll let you in so you can share your swims, bikes, runs, hikes, paddles etc.

I've sent a request Jon
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 02, 2017, 09:05:01 AM
Managed to shave my pb down to 23.27 for 5K at Parkrun yesterday. Was a real struggle though, one of those horrible runs where you feel it from the off.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 02, 2017, 11:41:49 AM
Managed to shave my pb down to 23.27 for 5K at Parkrun yesterday. Was a real struggle though, one of those horrible runs where you feel it from the off.

Nice one Paul.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 02, 2017, 12:52:18 PM
Cheers, I do hate those runs where you feel rubbish from the off. Any tips on how to avoid that? Or is it just something that happens sometimes.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 03, 2017, 02:33:15 AM
Cheers, I do hate those runs where you feel rubbish from the off. Any tips on how to avoid that? Or is it just something that happens sometimes.

I reckon it is just something that happens....did something in particular put you off? If you hit a PB at an organised race you're pretty focused though. If there are more than a few people running where I run I freak out....
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 03, 2017, 06:59:10 AM
Well it was pretty clustered at the beginning and a woman stopped right in front of me! I know what you mean I get that nervous feeling the seconds before a race starts!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: AV82EC on July 03, 2017, 07:32:54 AM
Well it was pretty clustered at the beginning and a woman stopped right in front of me! I know what you mean I get that nervous feeling the seconds before a race starts!

I certainly do, it's hard not to let the adrenaline take over and you end up going off too fast etc etc. I've done that a few times on Triathlons and the way I counteract it is by visualising my start and what I want to feel like. It's probably all cod psychology bollocks but it seems to work for me.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 20, 2017, 12:22:06 PM
Ran 11km on last two runs and my knee seems to be holding up well. Think I'll stick with this distance for the time being.

Once it cools off I'll see about adding a bit more distance. Yesterday it was 26C and 86% humidity when we finished at around 0900.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on July 24, 2017, 12:18:22 PM
I finished 301st in the very well organised Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham yesterday.  I had the 39th best marathon split in 3hrs 32mins. Feeling my age today but I will target the Mablethorpe Marathon next hoping for a time between 2hrs 50/55 mins.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 24, 2017, 01:01:36 PM
I finished 301st in the very well organised Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham yesterday.  I had the 39th best marathon split in 3hrs 32mins. Feeling my age today but I will target the Mablethorpe Marathon next hoping for a time between 2hrs 50/55 mins.

I might do this next year, it's pan flat isn't it?  PB for the Ironman distance has to be on the cards and it's cheaper to get to & enter than Ironman Florida.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on July 24, 2017, 01:43:25 PM
I finished 301st in the very well organised Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham yesterday.  I had the 39th best marathon split in 3hrs 32mins. Feeling my age today but I will target the Mablethorpe Marathon next hoping for a time between 2hrs 50/55 mins.

I might do this next year, it's pan flat isn't it?  PB for the Ironman distance has to be on the cards and it's cheaper to get to & enter than Ironman Florida.

The bike course is pretty fast. Undulating with only one short sharp 12% hill. I'd thoroughly recommended it as very accessible and good value for money. It cost less than 300 quid and I ate about 50 quid worth of Jaffa cakes.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 24, 2017, 02:04:39 PM
I finished 301st in the very well organised Outlaw Ironman in Nottingham yesterday.  I had the 39th best marathon split in 3hrs 32mins. Feeling my age today but I will target the Mablethorpe Marathon next hoping for a time between 2hrs 50/55 mins.

I might do this next year, it's pan flat isn't it?  PB for the Ironman distance has to be on the cards and it's cheaper to get to & enter than Ironman Florida.

The bike course is pretty fast. Undulating with only one short sharp 12% hill. I'd thoroughly recommended it as very accessible and good value for money. It cost less than 300 quid and I ate about 50 quid worth of Jaffa cakes.

I'll take a look at their website cheers Tayls_7.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 04, 2017, 09:59:35 PM
Mo you star.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: thick_mike on August 04, 2017, 10:02:32 PM
Amazing
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 07, 2017, 02:36:39 AM
Ran 11km last Wednesday, 11km Saturday and scheduled to run 11km on Tuesday.

Hoping to draw a line under last year's knee problems ....so far so good.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 08, 2017, 05:19:44 PM
No knee problems here but starting to get the first real pain from shin splints.  Had a few 100+ mile months and this month won't be any different but at least I start to taper to Ironman Cascais toward the end of the month so hopefully a bit of repair and healing can take place.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 06, 2017, 05:12:37 PM
Missed an Ironman 70.3 World Championship slot because I didn't go to the Sunday evening award ceremony after Ironman Cascais thinking that the top 2 finishers would take their places, they didn't, it rolled down and I wasn't there to claim my place in South Africa next September. Lesson learned, if you finish anywhere in the top 20 in your age group, turn up, my mate Andy is at the Worlds this weekend, he qualified with a 17th place in his age group.

Slightly miffed but had a great race after a difficult swim in choppy windy conditions and my shins held out until the last 4km when I was fighting back the tears of pain.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on September 07, 2017, 08:47:28 AM
That's no good Jon. I've learn't that lesson as well, missing out on a weekend away when I didn't turn up for a half marathon awards a few years ago.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 02, 2017, 01:35:19 AM
10 km SB today - thank fuck for cooler mornings. What a difference it makes running at 7am in 23C vs 12C - started my kick at 7km and thought I went too early but it was fine.

(http://thumb.ibb.co/kcTygG/Screen_Shot_2017_10_01_at_10_57_06.png) (http://ibb.co/kcTygG)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Villafirst on October 15, 2017, 07:12:44 AM
Birmingham Half-Marathon for me today. Can I lower my PB of 1:41:56?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 15, 2017, 07:40:58 AM
Birmingham Half-Marathon for me today. Can I lower my PB of 1:41:56?

Hell yeah, course you can! Good luck!

I'm doing the full one, first time ever. Anything is a PB as long as I finish!!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 15, 2017, 03:58:43 PM
4:25:51

I was hoping for sub 4 hours on the basis of a half marathon PB of 1:46:25 and was on target until about 16 miles when my calf pulled and I had to walk quite a lot after that.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 16, 2017, 01:17:48 AM
4:25:51

I was hoping for sub 4 hours on the basis of a half marathon PB of 1:46:25 and was on target until about 16 miles when my calf pulled and I had to walk quite a lot after that.

Sorry to hear of your injury - 4:25 is awesome anyway - nice job. Hope you heal quickly.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Villafirst on October 16, 2017, 06:10:49 AM
Birmingham Half-Marathon for me today. Can I lower my PB of 1:41:56?

Hell yeah, course you can! Good luck!

I'm doing the full one, first time ever. Anything is a PB as long as I finish!!


1:51 in the end. Just comeback from Achilles and Hamstring injuries, so lacked the endurance in the last 3 miles. Went out too fast in the first 10k at 47.00. Injuries are about 95% healed so I can now concentrate on building up to The London Marathon next year.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 16, 2017, 06:18:54 AM
4:25:51

I was hoping for sub 4 hours on the basis of a half marathon PB of 1:46:25 and was on target until about 16 miles when my calf pulled and I had to walk quite a lot after that.

Sorry to hear of your injury - 4:25 is awesome anyway - nice job. Hope you heal quickly.

Thank you.

My immediate reaction afterwards was 'never again' but I've woken up this morning thinking 'I can do better than that next year.' I had been a bit concerned that the training plan I followed, which was from the official Great Run website, required a longest run of 2 hours, which at my pace is about 15 miles. Need to train up to longer distances if I decide to do it again (which I bet I will) next year, I think.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 19, 2017, 12:04:33 PM
A couple of Villa shirts in the Brum marathon (from the Midlands Today FB page I think) - anyone on here?



(http://thumb.ibb.co/knkDgR/Pic1.jpg) (http://ibb.co/knkDgR)

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Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 19, 2017, 02:29:10 PM
A couple of Villa shirts in the Brum marathon (from the Midlands Today FB page I think) - anyone on here?



(http://thumb.ibb.co/knkDgR/Pic1.jpg) (http://ibb.co/knkDgR)

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Not me, but I remember seeing the guy in the vintage one at the start and out on the course.

Absolutely itching to have another go now!!!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 22, 2017, 05:27:42 PM
Ran 12km this morning - it was lovely, cool & sunny - no gale force arctic north-wind like this past Sunday. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on December 07, 2017, 03:45:16 PM
Entries are now open for the Birmingham International Marathon 2018. Go for it, folks!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on March 16, 2018, 12:22:24 PM
Birmingham International Marathon has been cancelled for this year. Gutted.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on March 20, 2018, 11:25:07 AM
Has anyone on here done the Leicester Marathon? I'm looking for one to replace the cancelled Birmingham one which is at around the same time of year and that is the nearest one.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on March 20, 2018, 01:17:39 PM
Has anyone on here done the Leicester Marathon? I'm looking for one to replace the cancelled Birmingham one which is at around the same time of year and that is the nearest one.

I haven't done it but was thinking about doing it as well.  Looks a reasonably flat course.  I need something to aim for to motivate me.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 20, 2018, 01:36:35 PM
Doing Winchester half in September, so did a 10K last night at a comfortable pace in 54 mins. Happy enough with that, as I want to target sub 2 hr half.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: shirley_villan on March 20, 2018, 01:52:34 PM
Has anyone on here done the Leicester Marathon? I'm looking for one to replace the cancelled Birmingham one which is at around the same time of year and that is the nearest one.

I'm looking for an alternative as well. Really annoying as the Brum marathon was cancelled on the same day that the Coventry half was, which I was meant to be doing yesterday.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on March 20, 2018, 02:32:45 PM
Has anyone on here done the Leicester Marathon? I'm looking for one to replace the cancelled Birmingham one which is at around the same time of year and that is the nearest one.

I'm looking for an alternative as well. Really annoying as the Brum marathon was cancelled on the same day that the Coventry half was, which I was meant to be doing yesterday.

Same here with the Stafford Half on Sunday. It was a real triple whammy of a weekend with Brum being cancelled, Stafford being postponed and losing to sodding Bolton.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 26, 2018, 06:09:10 PM
The heat is absolute murder for training. Iím doing the Winchester half in September and running 5 or 6 km in this heat is difficult!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 29, 2018, 11:55:27 AM
The heat is absolute murder for training. Iím doing the Winchester half in September and running 5 or 6 km in this heat is difficult!

I feel your pain. It is usually already 20C here by 6am - I've given up on staying in the 6 mins/km range until the Autumn (if we have one - we seems to have just two seasons anymore: Winter and Summer)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 29, 2018, 02:08:10 PM
Luckily or unluckily whichever way you want to look at it, I've not been able to run the past 10 days whilst we've had this mini heatwave in the UK due to a back injury. Following a course of treatment with my chiro I'm feeling much better now, swimming this morning I felt much stronger so am going to head out on Sunday and see how it goes, may be an early one to avoid the heat of the day.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 29, 2018, 05:14:36 PM
Just did a 5k averaging 5.07 per K. Happy with that, because the heat is savage and saps energy reserves.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 01, 2018, 02:02:06 PM
2 runs in the last 48 hours both pain free, one straight off the TT bike this morning after a 50km TT.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Fred Crump on July 01, 2018, 02:31:15 PM
Good on you all for running in this heat and to those who are battling injuries, donít give up too soon like I did. I retired from competitive athletics when I was 27 because of a persistent calf injury and now bitterly regret it. I can tell you itís a bloody lot harder to try to run when you are old and fat like I am now so keep going - running is the best drug ever! Respect to all you runners !
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 09, 2018, 05:05:52 PM
Some useful info here.

https://www.runnersworld.com/advanced/a20825873/training-in-the-heat-0/
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 09, 2018, 07:46:04 PM
Cheers interesting reading, still hate running in the heat.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 10, 2018, 08:04:51 AM
The at glance version.


(https://thumb.ibb.co/jD7NST/warmtemponpace.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jD7NST)
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on July 10, 2018, 09:20:46 AM
I remember running a Half Marathon in the Oceania Games when it was around 32c. Very uncomfortable conditions and although I still high in the field my time was about 11-12 minutes slower than I would usually run.   
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 10, 2018, 11:02:56 AM
The chart I posted is scarily accurate, I can tap out an 8 min mile marathon in Ironman which I tend to do late season so temperatures not high, I did a 90 minute run yesterday in 30c and averaged 9:05 for 10 miles (16k), I was well hydrated and carried 2 bottles in an ultra endurance vest, felt fine but just couldn't push that hard.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 17, 2018, 06:37:46 PM
Ran just over 10k in 53/54 mins. Happy with that as a pretty hilly run, and I was tracking at 47.15 at just over 9k when my Fitbit stopped timing (annoying).
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 07, 2018, 07:10:57 PM
Gearing up for Winchester half in a couple of weeks. 14.2 k in 1hr 20 mins. Pretty happy with that, as my stretch target is 2 hours.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 10, 2018, 02:09:39 PM
1 more long run to do next Sunday (2 hours 15 mins) then its taper baby to Ironman Cascais.
Did 1hr 40 at tempo on Sunday and managed to bang out 12.5 miles so looking good for a half mara PB on 30th September. Need to push on a bit harder early on and not be afraid of blowing up later on so long as I'm hydrated & nutrition has gone to plan.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 23, 2018, 05:57:43 PM
Winchester Half done, 1:55:16, which I was delighted with. Bloody tough course, straight up hill at the start and then horrible climb around 9 mile mark.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on September 23, 2018, 05:59:49 PM
Winchester Half done, 1:55:16, which I was delighted with. Bloody tough course, straight up hill at the start and then horrible climb around 9 mile mark.

Good effort mate. Anything sub 2 hours for a first half marathon is good going.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 23, 2018, 06:01:39 PM
Cheers mate, the legs are on the sore side now!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on September 23, 2018, 06:06:29 PM
Nice time Paul - bravo.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 23, 2018, 06:19:59 PM
Cheers mate. Itís a recommended Half for anyone who likes a challenge.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on September 25, 2018, 09:15:59 AM
Winchester Half done, 1:55:16, which I was delighted with. Bloody tough course, straight up hill at the start and then horrible climb around 9 mile mark.

Well done Paul. Good time on a hilly course.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 27, 2018, 06:57:02 PM
Cheers mate. Iíve developed a chesty cough on the back of it, so currently resting before launching into training to improve my 5k, 10k and Half times.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 06, 2018, 08:19:04 PM
I ran a 1:44 half on Sunday as part of Ironman 70.3 Cascais having crashed on my bike earlier doing this to my foot and ankle.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/hCqDUU/D7_CA63_EA_4_AAF_41_A1_9_B53_6375_D26_B3_AF2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hCqDUU)

No wonder every step fucking hurt!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on October 16, 2018, 10:35:54 PM
Advise required:

I am 41 and recently had a health check at work, they said I am overweight with a BMI of around 26.  Consequently I have started running having only really walked for exercise for the past 3-years or so (albeit quite a lot, typically +20k steps a day).

The running has caused some issues with my knees, not massive pain but a dull ache for the first 2km or so, it certainly slows me down.  They're fine after that and when I stop.  In addition there no sign of swelling.

Will I run through this pain as I gain fitness and my body remembers what it is like to run or is this now my normal?

Ultimately I want to know whether to persevere with it (as I quite enjoy it) or whether I should start swimming or cycling where there is less impact. 

Any advice is appreciated.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 17, 2018, 01:47:29 PM
First thing I'd do is find a sports shop/running shoe shop that can analyse your gait & running style & find out if you pronate, overpronate or supinate.
Once that's understood they can advise you on the right shoe to wear, you wouldn't believe the difference 1 pair of shoes over another can have. It could also be how your foot strikes the floor, heel, flat or toe first, that can be altered with a little training, once you know what you do and if suggested need to change your form, try runningf along a High Street when shops are shut so you can see your reflection in windows, its a great way to spot mistakes and energy waste without a coach.
One other thing to consider is the fact that your knees, the tendons & muscles around the knee aren't used to you asking them to absorb the shock of running, over time they'll adapt.

I can wear racing flats for a half marathon, virtually zero support but anything over that it's a high arch supported shoe otherwise my shins and knees hurt, I suffer from shin splints after extended periods of running training. I race Ironman distance triathlon, the evening after a race I can barely bend my legs at the knee lying in bed, next day not a sign of discomfort or pain.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 17, 2018, 07:04:58 PM
I ran a 1:44 half on Sunday as part of Ironman 70.3 Cascais having crashed on my bike earlier doing this to my foot and ankle.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/hCqDUU/D7_CA63_EA_4_AAF_41_A1_9_B53_6375_D26_B3_AF2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hCqDUU)

No wonder every step fucking hurt!


Well done, and ouch!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on October 17, 2018, 08:19:03 PM
Thank you Jon.  That helps a lot.  Just knowing that there's a chance that tendons etc will adapt is positive enough.  Muscles I expect to change/grow etc but tendons, in my head seem like a different animal.

I will keep at it and hopefully report back with positive news.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on November 04, 2018, 01:11:43 AM
Advise required:

I am 41 and recently had a health check at work, they said I am overweight with a BMI of around 26.  Consequently I have started running having only really walked for exercise for the past 3-years or so (albeit quite a lot, typically +20k steps a day).

The running has caused some issues with my knees, not massive pain but a dull ache for the first 2km or so, it certainly slows me down.  They're fine after that and when I stop.  In addition there no sign of swelling.

Will I run through this pain as I gain fitness and my body remembers what it is like to run or is this now my normal?

Ultimately I want to know whether to persevere with it (as I quite enjoy it) or whether I should start swimming or cycling where there is less impact. 

Any advice is appreciated.

I'd say stick with the running.  Take Jon's advice and go to a proper running shop and spend as much as you can afford on a decent pair of trainers.  That'll help.  If things are hurting while you start out, slow down a bit.  When you drop a bit of weight, things ache a bit less.  Also if you can do any running that is off road such as in a park, that can help as running on tarmac all the time can be quite hard on the joints.  Also stretch as much as you can before you go out, I find that helps.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 06, 2018, 05:53:53 PM
You see amazing quick improvement when you start running and then stick to it. Itís really worthwhile, and itís great for mindfulness as well.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 19, 2019, 06:52:16 PM
First time Iíve pushed the distance a bit this year, 8k in 41.43 which Iím fairly happy with in the heat! Targeting a sub 1 hr 50 Half in September, so hopefully on track.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Fred Crump on April 29, 2019, 07:43:37 PM
Hayley Carruthers. What a legend. Sheís the athlete who was pictured crawling over the line at the Marathon yesterday as her legs literally gave way under her 10 yards from the finish. Just done a lovely interview on Midlands Today. She ran a superb time at an average pace of 5 minutes 52 seconds per mile. If anyone is in any doubt how fast that is, if you are medically safe to do so, go and try running just one mile at that speed. Then try to imagine repeating it 25 times without a break in between. Mental !
And to cap it all sheís done all the training in her own time. She was back at work at the QE today , still with bleeding knees, working as a radiologist.
What a woman ! Total respect and admiration to you Hayley - youíre every bit as hard in your own way as the Emperor Tyrone Mings ! Hope you get your Olympic qualifying time soon - just 3 minutes to go !
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on June 02, 2019, 10:18:21 AM
Anyone else doing the Great Midlands Fun Run today? If so good luck.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: shipscat on June 02, 2019, 10:31:11 AM
I'm taking part in the GMFR...a last minute substituite for Mrs Shipscat,who's father is very ill...normally run about 5miles...so a touch further
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 02, 2019, 06:39:07 PM
Hope it went well.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on June 02, 2019, 08:08:21 PM
My aim was to do better than last year, and I did. Got round in 1:09:31. Third best time out of seven attempts. Not quite sure how because it felt very hard today, extremely humid.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 06, 2019, 06:24:37 PM
Well done!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 30, 2019, 01:36:19 AM
On a very rare day recently when it wasn't already 23C at 7am I managed to go out to 13km with no left knee pain.

I'm excited now for autumn and cooler temperatures and longer runs
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on July 13, 2019, 07:52:15 PM
I run just over 16 miles on Saturday mornings.  Every year I worry that age is going to fuck me over but for the last few weeks I'm in the 1hr50m to 1hr55m bracket.  I take one gel with me and normally notice I smell of amonia towards the last couple of miles which means my body is burning protein as everything else has run out.  I've entered a 33.6 mile  ultra in North Yorkshire in September.  Hopefully I'll be in a condition by then to be competitive but I'd be chuffed with an age trophy. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on July 14, 2019, 08:14:08 AM
I run just over 16 miles on Saturday mornings.  Every year I worry that age is going to fuck me over but for the last few weeks I'm in the 1hr50m to 1hr55m bracket.  I take one gel with me and normally notice I smell of amonia towards the last couple of miles which means my body is burning protein as everything else has run out.  I've entered a 33.6 mile  ultra in North Yorkshire in September.  Hopefully I'll be in a condition by then to be competitive but I'd be chuffed with an age trophy. 

That's a great time Tayls at 48 (if your age is right). I gave up racing a few years ago but still go out for a 15km run every Sunday.

Good luck with the Ultra run.   
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on July 14, 2019, 09:37:52 AM
I run just over 16 miles on Saturday mornings.  Every year I worry that age is going to fuck me over but for the last few weeks I'm in the 1hr50m to 1hr55m bracket.  I take one gel with me and normally notice I smell of amonia towards the last couple of miles which means my body is burning protein as everything else has run out.  I've entered a 33.6 mile  ultra in North Yorkshire in September.  Hopefully I'll be in a condition by then to be competitive but I'd be chuffed with an age trophy. 

That's a great time Tayls at 48 (if your age is right). I gave up racing a few years ago but still go out for a 15km run every Sunday.

Good luck with the Ultra run.

Thanks JD. I've got no speed these days, hence why I concentrate on longer distance now.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on July 20, 2019, 02:12:03 AM
15km is a great distance. I used to run a 15km loop along the canals in Brum every Tuesday and Thursday after work and then a 20 km out-and-back to Dudley Port on Sunday.

How I miss those runs!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 20, 2019, 10:58:40 AM
Thatís great pace Tayls.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on July 20, 2019, 11:40:10 AM
Cheers Paul. I'm just back from this morning's travails. Feeling ok. I have a strategy of not fuelling and running the tank dry over the last couple of miles.  I suppose I'm hitting the wall so it feels more akin to marathon distance. My other runs are 5-7 miles so I keep some pace in my legs. Hopefully I'll achieve something decent later this year.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 22, 2019, 03:45:24 PM
Trying to stave off shin splints as usual at this stage of the season, am averaging around 80km a week a the moment, 1 long run of c25km and the rest in shorter sessions including some speed work. Maybe itís psychological but Iíve worn compression socks this last week and they seem to be keeping them at bay for the time being. Anyone tried anything else that works part from rest obviously.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bostongbboy on July 22, 2019, 04:07:23 PM
Hi Jon, donít know if this will help but compression socks worked ok in the short term, followed by cold / ice leg baths. When running in Sutton Park when finished run at Wyndley always tended to kneel down in the stream after the run. Not only cleans legs but helped with aches and pains. Mind you this was pre Paula Radcliffe days. (Lessons learnt Fell running).
But really may need to look at a specialist podiatrist. Your gait may be causing the issue. I recently found out that I pronate and has caused leg pain similar to splints.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 24, 2019, 09:02:47 PM
This evening I did a speed session with a former Team GB athletics coach, all good fun and didnít feel that hard.

2 hours later Iím struggling, properly struggling, tomorrow I may be avoiding stairs.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on August 04, 2019, 11:43:46 AM
I've only got into running over the last couple of months. Really want to increase my distance up to 10 and 12 k, but I get to 7 and 8 and i'm done. I really have trouble with my pace, for the life of me I can't seem to speed up or slow down, my split 1k are always pretty much the same. Any tips from the more experienced runners on here ? Do I have to start at a snails pace ?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 04, 2019, 12:10:08 PM
Interval running is generally good for increasing pace. Just keep at it!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on August 04, 2019, 12:16:22 PM
Cheers for that Paul. I think the cooler weather will help too. Maybe not my best idea starting in the summer !!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 04, 2019, 12:40:18 PM
It is tough in the summer, but if you do the hard yards it makes it easier when itís cooler.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: thick_mike on August 04, 2019, 02:16:14 PM
I've only got into running over the last couple of months. Really want to increase my distance up to 10 and 12 k, but I get to 7 and 8 and i'm done. I really have trouble with my pace, for the life of me I can't seem to speed up or slow down, my split 1k are always pretty much the same. Any tips from the more experienced runners on here ? Do I have to start at a snails pace ?

I was in exactly the same position as you at the start of the year and a friend recommended Jeffing. Itís a walk/run programme. Totally counterintuitive to think walking makes you faster, but I immediately I broke my PB for 5km and was able to build up to 10km easily.

http://www.jeffgalloway.com/training/run-walk/
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 05, 2019, 12:28:45 PM
Best advice I can give re increased pace is start training with a heart rate monitor.
Figure out your zones (forget 220-your age because thatís bollocks) and start training in them.
Start off sticking in Z2 for a month and by week 5 or 6 youíll have to run faster to get into and stay in Z2 as your heart gets fitter. Now you can start to add in some intervals in Z4 something like the below.

10 mins @ Z2 then 5 x 1min at Z4 then jog.

What that means is you run 10 minutes in Z2 then you pick up the pace to the point your heart rate increases to Z4 for 1 minute then you jog back down to Z2 for 1 minute then repeat 4 more times then carry on your run in Z2 for however long.

Over time increase the duration of the Z4 efforts, your pace will increase as will your fitness.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on September 01, 2019, 01:35:17 PM
Did the Wolverhampton Half this morning and the course seems to have been about 1/3 mile short.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on September 02, 2019, 04:47:12 PM
Yes, the marshals sent us the wrong way between 7 and 8 miles. And I still didnít PB.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 22, 2019, 04:53:27 PM
Second Half Marathon today, disappointing 2.01. Hideous conditions contributed to my left foot getting destroyed by blisters. When I took my trainer off at the end the insole had come away and was at the end of my trainer. Was in pain for the last 10K.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 23, 2019, 01:08:42 PM
Second Half Marathon today, disappointing 2.01. Hideous conditions contributed to my left foot getting destroyed by blisters. When I took my trainer off at the end the insole had come away and was at the end of my trainer. Was in pain for the last 10K.

I did Ironman 70.3 Weymouth yesterday, conditions were vile for swim & bike with torrential rain and wind, the sun came out on the run but was still very windy, still managed a 1:44 half marathon, first 5k around 4:35 pace then dropped it back to around 5:00 pace as I've another Ironman 70.3 (my A race) next weekend in sunny warm and dry Portugal.
Anyone out racing yesterday deserves huge kudos, it was horrendous.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 23, 2019, 07:16:48 PM
Thatís an incredible effort, well done.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 23, 2019, 07:57:38 PM
I'm in awe reading what you guys have done recently. I've now been able to increase my distance up to 12 k and now my shortest is 8.5 k, so I'm pretty pleased with my progress. Only trouble is a slight discomfort on the inside of my right knee. It's not painful, just a slight sensation, so I've taken a few days off. I defintely didn't feel whilst running, just a couple of days later. Is my body getting use to running on concrete ? Or have I been over doing it ?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 23, 2019, 08:20:16 PM
Iíve had that before. Might be inflamed ligaments, when I had it changing my running shoes sorted it out.

Keep going youíre doing great!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 24, 2019, 06:10:08 PM
Cheers for that Paul. I'm probably due an upgrade.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 04, 2019, 04:36:37 PM
Put in a 1:38 half marathon at Ironman 70.3 Cascais last Sunday, I was knocking out 4:35 kms until about km 11 then I was hit with a wave of 'there's fuck all left to give mate' from my legs!

No additional fuelling helped, I limped on into the 5:30 km zone with a few cheeky rolling hills in the last 10km, 3 70.3 Ironman races in 5 weeks did for me in the end.

A week off and then it's winter strength and conditioning for 2 months with a bit of base then back on it for Ironman Oceanside in April 2020, I want to crack a sub 1:30 half in a 70.3 Ironman next year, Oceanside is a pretty flat run so may be the one to do it at.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on October 05, 2019, 05:27:06 AM
That's a great effort Jon. Well done, 3 in 5 weeks is some effort my friend.

What were the conditions like?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 05, 2019, 07:25:55 AM
Last Sunday in Cascais the weather was interesting to say the least.
15mph wind already blowing for the swim, by the time weíd got to the turn point on the bike around 75km and at the highest point on the course the wind was gusting 40+ mph. Back down at sea level for the run 72 degrees and a gentle 10-15 mph breeze.
Not ideal but certainly much better than Weymouth the week before where although mild it pissed down nearly all day.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 07, 2019, 08:03:30 PM
Unsuccessful in the London Marathon ballot again :-(
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on October 08, 2019, 09:32:06 AM
Unsuccessful in the London Marathon ballot again :-(

Go for a charity place, I got one.  Must get some bloody training started!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on October 08, 2019, 11:01:49 PM
Good luck Martin. Yes, you should do some training, if only to lessen the pain on the day.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 09, 2019, 11:49:09 AM
Unsuccessful in the London Marathon ballot again :-(

Go for a charity place, I got one.  Must get some bloody training started!

The thing that puts me off that is that Iím doubtful of raising the squintillion pounds a lot of them require as a minimum. When Iíve done Birmingham Iím normally doing well if I get £500.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 12, 2019, 09:18:36 AM
Eliud Kipchoge has smashed the sub 2 hour marathon. Absolutely mind blowing stuff.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Villa Lew on October 12, 2019, 09:24:44 AM
Watched it absolutely brilliant.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: olaftab on October 12, 2019, 09:50:04 AM
Unsuccessful in the London Marathon ballot again :-(

Go for a charity place, I got one.  Must get some bloody training started!

The thing that puts me off that is that Iím doubtful of raising the squintillion pounds a lot of them require as a minimum. When Iíve done Birmingham Iím normally doing well if I get £500.
Use the same method as you do when invoicing suckers...sorry clients. Should be able to reach the target in next to...weíll under two hours?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 12, 2019, 10:20:02 AM
Good point well made.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on October 12, 2019, 01:26:13 PM
Apparently there's plenty on social media commenting that Kipchoge's sub 2-hour mark was achieved with the sort of assistance that is contrary to the spirit of marathon running.  No doubt had Twatter been around in 1953 they'd have been complaining how Bannister had been paced by Brasher and Chataway...

It's amazing feat by a unique athlete.  The sheer enormity of the achievement is best demonstrated with the footage of those who usually plod round a parkrun setting a treadmill to Kipchoge's pace and lasting a minute of two before being sent flying off the end of the belt.   
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on October 12, 2019, 01:33:24 PM
Apparently there's plenty on social media commenting that Kipchoge's sub 2-hour mark was achieved with the sort of assistance that is contrary to the spirit of marathon running.  No doubt had Twatter been around in 1953 they'd have been complaining how Bannister had been paced by Brasher and Chataway...

It's amazing feat by a unique athlete.  The sheer enormity of the achievement is best demonstrated with the footage of those who usually plod round a parkrun setting a treadmill to Kipchoge's pace and lasting a minute of two before being sent flying off the end of the belt.   

Yes, the complaints are bollocks.  he still moved his legs quickly enough to do a marathon in less than two hours.  Incredible achievement.  Taking one more second on average per mile would have seen him not achieve it.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on October 12, 2019, 09:22:55 PM
Amazing achievement . Agree that the circumstances don't matter in this feat, he still had to run 26.2 Miles unaided. The split times are phenomenal.
Was going for a run this morning but may just stay in bed instead as I feel inadequate.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 13, 2019, 02:33:39 AM
Many professional women marathoners also have their coaches running with them as pacers in races. If you have the time, ability, support and resources to do something *legally* to your full potential, go for it.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 13, 2019, 12:59:25 PM
The Birmingham Half was two miles short due to standing water making the course hazardous. I did 1:29:22 which was Pb pace.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: olaftab on October 13, 2019, 01:01:41 PM
Well done Richard. I have just driven around the Cannon Hill Park/Pershore Road section and feel quite tired.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 13, 2019, 02:50:53 PM
Itís the second Ďhalf marathoní in a row that Iíve done which has not been the full distance! Organisers are evidently taking pity on my advancing years.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 13, 2019, 04:27:03 PM
Not quite 1:59 territory but easy to overlook the marathon time of Jan Frodeno at the Ironman world championship in Kona yesterday, after a 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike he knocked out a 2:42 marathon.  Not too shabby.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: spangley1812 on October 13, 2019, 06:04:03 PM
The Birmingham Half was two miles short due to standing water making the course hazardous. I did 1:29:22 which was Pb pace.

I wasn't standing water, the organisers have just said it was due to a security incident in Cannon Hill Park, that was a white van left completely unattended in the middle of Cannon Hill Park. The Police told the organisers to cut the route short missing out the park and Edgbaston Cricket Ground. I was pretty happy with my 1 hour 56 minutes
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on October 13, 2019, 06:25:02 PM
Thatís true but the initial announcement before my wave set off was that it had been reduced to 12 miles because of flooding. It was only later the true story was announced. Shame, because it was otherwise really enjoyable today. The crowd support seemed to be better than ever.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: spangley1812 on October 13, 2019, 06:32:59 PM
That’s true but the initial announcement before my wave set off was that it had been reduced to 12 miles because of flooding. It was only later the true story was announced. Shame, because it was otherwise really enjoyable today. The crowd support seemed to be better than ever.

Crowd Support was Fantastic...ÖÖ.so many people handing out Jelly Babies, etc
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on October 14, 2019, 04:39:20 AM
Not quite 1:59 territory but easy to overlook the marathon time of Jan Frodeno at the Ironman world championship in Kona yesterday, after a 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike he knocked out a 2:42 marathon.  Not too shabby.
Now that is very impressive. The man is a machine.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on October 19, 2019, 12:03:21 PM
Can anyone recommend a  decent shop for a pronation test please ?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bostongbboy on October 19, 2019, 12:28:26 PM
Gary, this may not be much help as Phil is In Lichfield , and you are in Brighton?

http://www.therunnerspodiatrist.co.uk/index.html.


Good luck.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 20, 2019, 08:23:30 PM
Sweatshop in Brighton do gait analysis. Just walk in.

Brighton
17-17 Queens Road
Brighton
West Sussex
BN1 3WA
UK
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: dcdavecollett on October 24, 2019, 12:38:40 AM
Could you forward these details on to Ross McCormack...?
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on October 24, 2019, 06:51:07 AM
Thanks for the advice everyone.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 03, 2019, 06:17:25 PM
Combination of age, weight and already-dodgy knee and 2 most recent runs =  pes anserine bursitis in my left knee.

Have been RICE ing it for a week now - went to the opera last night and could still barely walk.

Fuck.

Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on December 07, 2019, 12:12:11 PM
I had to take a shit out on my run this morning. First time I've had to do that in months. I had curry for my tea last night. I don't think the two events are unrelated. :o
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 08, 2019, 07:24:24 AM
I had to take a shit out on my run this morning. First time I've had to do that in months. I had curry for my tea last night. I don't think the two events are unrelated. :o

If I'm out on a long run (anything over 90 minutes) I always take bog roll in a waterproof baggie.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on December 08, 2019, 08:43:58 AM
I had to take a shit out on my run this morning. First time I've had to do that in months. I had curry for my tea last night. I don't think the two events are unrelated. :o

If I'm out on a long run (anything over 90 minutes) I always take bog roll in a waterproof baggie.

Ha. Me too Jon. Just as well most of my routes are rural/ish.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 08, 2019, 08:57:49 AM
I had to take a shit out on my run this morning. First time I've had to do that in months. I had curry for my tea last night. I don't think the two events are unrelated. :o

If I'm out on a long run (anything over 90 minutes) I always take bog roll in a waterproof baggie.

Ha. Me too Jon. Just as well most of my routes are rural/ish.

Nothing worse than a turtles head!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on December 08, 2019, 09:07:33 AM
I had to take a shit out on my run this morning. First time I've had to do that in months. I had curry for my tea last night. I don't think the two events are unrelated. :o

If I'm out on a long run (anything over 90 minutes) I always take bog roll in a waterproof baggie.

Ha. Me too Jon. Just as well most of my routes are rural/ish.

Nothing worse than a turtles head!

If only. As is normal, I wanted to ease my intestinal discomfort with an aggressive volley of flatulence but realised just in time that would be an unwise course of action!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on December 08, 2019, 10:05:28 AM
Paula Radcliffe would be proud!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 08, 2019, 10:22:38 AM
You guys are worrying me now, I'm doing my first half marathon in February and didn't realise I need to pack loo roll and wet wipes !!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on December 08, 2019, 10:29:35 AM
Too much information!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on December 08, 2019, 10:36:19 AM
Gary you'll be fine. Very best of luck with it
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 21, 2020, 01:16:09 PM
Can't remember where I discussed my shin splint ailment on this forum, but clearly not in this thread!

Anyway, my daughter who's almost a qualified Chiropractor (6 months to go) has learned to KT Tape & has now taught me as well.
A combination of magnesium gel, KT taping & compression socks has made a dramatic difference to my shin splints, pain went from excruciating to bearable in about a week and I'm pretty much pain free now and still running around 35 miles a week + cycling over 100. So thanks to whoever it was that suggested compression socks, good quality ones are well worth the investment.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on February 22, 2020, 02:29:26 AM
Can't remember where I discussed my shin splint ailment on this forum, but clearly not in this thread!

Anyway, my daughter who's almost a qualified Chiropractor (6 months to go) has learned to KT Tape & has now taught me as well.
A combination of magnesium gel, KT taping & compression socks has made a dramatic difference to my shin splints, pain went from excruciating to bearable in about a week and I'm pretty much pain free now and still running around 35 miles a week + cycling over 100. So thanks to whoever it was that suggested compression socks, good quality ones are well worth the investment.

Good to hear Jon. I agree about compression socks. I wear the as I was getting calf pulls/tears when running and haven't had any issues since I started wearing them. 
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on February 24, 2020, 01:43:31 PM
Completed my first half marathon in Brighton yesterday, despite the gale force winds, I did it sub 2 hours, so i'm really chuffed and I can honestly say I loved it, already started looking for others to do. Thanks to you guys on here for the tips and advice over the past few months.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bostongbboy on February 24, 2020, 02:14:40 PM
Well done Gary on your run. If you are looking for another half local to you, try the Hastings Half on 29th March. Would recommend as it is one of the toughest courses I have ran, with long uphills Queens Drive and then once off the Ridge downhill towards the Old Town, plays havoc with shins. Then once you are on the seafront and you can see Marina Court in the ďdistanceĒ  approx 2 miles to go. Saying all that a great run well organised and so satisfying when you cross the finish line. Done it about 7 times over the years since first introduced back 1985ish, last one 2005. Take it steady and enjoy. All the best if you are tempted,
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on February 24, 2020, 05:36:14 PM
Well done Gary on your run. If you are looking for another half local to you, try the Hastings Half on 29th March. Would recommend as it is one of the toughest courses I have ran, with long uphills Queens Drive and then once off the Ridge downhill towards the Old Town, plays havoc with shins. Then once you are on the seafront and you can see Marina Court in the “distance”  approx 2 miles to go. Saying all that a great run well organised and so satisfying when you cross the finish line. Done it about 7 times over the years since first introduced back 1985ish, last one 2005. Take it steady and enjoy. All the best if you are tempted,

Cheers for that, i'll look into it. Want to try and do another couple before the end of the year, maybe even one abroad.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on February 25, 2020, 07:30:35 AM
Completed my first half marathon in Brighton yesterday, despite the gale force winds, I did it sub 2 hours, so i'm really chuffed and I can honestly say I loved it, already started looking for others to do. Thanks to you guys on here for the tips and advice over the past few months.

Well done GSK, great effort and there is nothing better than finishing your first half or full marathon.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on February 25, 2020, 01:16:24 PM
Cheers JD. Gotta say I'm still beaming about it, wish it had taken me less than my 42 years to do one, but ill definitely make up for lost time and do others.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Bostongbboy on February 28, 2020, 08:08:28 PM
Hi Gary, found this on you tube that might interest you. Brighton Half from 11min 10 secs on. You certainly had a tough run in the weather conditions. Well done again. If you are at WembleY On Sunday give us a wave. All the best.

https://youtu.be/Q9_IOdR9I9E
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Richard E on March 14, 2020, 08:58:54 AM
Stafford Half tomorrow is still on unless thereís a last minute change of heart. Depressing to think it could be the last organised event for some time.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 14, 2020, 11:08:10 AM
Least running is a relatively safe activity!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 14, 2020, 12:47:07 PM
Bath Half is on tomorrow as well, criminally stupid in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on March 14, 2020, 12:56:38 PM
Hi Gary, found this on you tube that might interest you. Brighton Half from 11min 10 secs on. You certainly had a tough run in the weather conditions. Well done again. If you are at WembleY On Sunday give us a wave. All the best.

https://youtu.be/Q9_IOdR9I9E

Sorry for the delay in seeing this Boston. Thanks for the link, it was tough because of the winds, but amazingly, couldn't have gone any better, partly due to the strong winds being behind our backs for the finish !!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on April 05, 2020, 11:55:19 PM
Got back into running about a month ago.  I've been losing weight and wanted to get my fitness back up too, so have been using my exercise time to fo a 5K down to the end of our (deserted) lane and back.  Anyway, Mo Farah doesn't need to worry but today I broke the 30 minute mark for the first time ever, which I was pleased with.  Not going to break any records, but given my dodgy back, knees and ankles I was quite happy, as a month ago I was doing it in around 37 minutes, so have been getting a bit quicker each time.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: dcdavecollett on April 06, 2020, 12:27:31 AM
Good work!
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: JD on April 06, 2020, 12:43:10 AM
Great work Risso.
Keep it up, it will get easier.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: Risso on April 06, 2020, 10:06:42 AM
Thanks chaps. I realise it's nothing great, but it's been a big mental block for me for years, and I'm pleased to have done it at the age of 48 when I couldn't when I was 43.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 06, 2020, 10:35:10 AM
Well done Risso. Itís always great when you can see material progress each time you run.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: AV82EC on April 06, 2020, 04:11:56 PM
Like Risso as someone in middle age just the other side of 50 I started doing Couch to 5k on 1 Jan.  After 3 months of solid slog did a 5k in 26:35 yesterday. Quite chuffed and Iím amazed at the change in my outlook and general state of mind. Iíve never been the greatest of Runners/joggers, I prefer biking, but really enjoying it. Next challenge is to try and get to 25:00 and carry on the gradual weight loss.

Oh and well done Risso.
Title: Re: The Running thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 06, 2020, 05:36:21 PM
Well done!