Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: TheToffnar on May 06, 2026, 09:29:19 AM
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Have they taken a break from sectarianism and being obsessed with the idea of getting a drum then?
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Have they taken a break from sectarianism and being obsessed with the idea of getting a drum then?
That's the spirit.
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And they call me a miserabilist.
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Have they taken a break from sectarianism and being obsessed with the idea of getting a drum then?
FFS. Read the room.
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This needs to be a night like Inter/Atletico/Bayern for atmosphere...we score first and they will crumble..
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Drums and sectarianism given an amnesty for one evening only!
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This needs to be a night like Inter/Atletico/Bayern for atmosphere...we score first and they will crumble..
Aye. Going to need everyone on it, none of this twaddle about feeling to embarrassed to chant. Got to show everyone how much this means.
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Drums and sectarianism given an amnesty for one evening only!
It is old but it is beautiful and its colours they are fine
It was worn at Wembley, Anfield, Old Trafford and the Sty...
My father wore it as a youth in bygone days of yore
So on the 7th I proudly wear, the scarf my father wore.
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Spurs aside, I've noticed a huge uplift in atmosphere in the Trinity Upper these past few games. Not quite sure what's sparked it but long may it continue.
Let's just remember that it's not just on the fans to get things going. Atmosphere is normally dialled in to what is happening on the pitch. We need those fuckers to run like they've never ran before tomorrow night, and if they do we'll sing em all the way to Istanbul!
UTV
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This needs to be a night like Inter/Atletico/Bayern for atmosphere...we score first and they will crumble..
That 1994 Inter night was incredible. I've never experienced an atmosphere like it.
If all can re-create that, we're through.
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Glad they posted this because I've never been to a match before and wouldn't know how to sing or shout without a "pay attention to me" fan group explaining it for me.
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Glad they posted this because I've never been to a match before and wouldn't know how to sing or shout without a "pay attention to me" fan group explaining it for me.
Good job they put this out then :)
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This needs to be a night like Inter/Atletico/Bayern for atmosphere...we score first and they will crumble..
That 1994 Inter night was incredible. I've never experienced an atmosphere like it.
If all can re-create that, we're through.
Atletico tops it for me. That was unreal.
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Bradford in 1988.
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Bradford in 1988.
As a kid that had been going only a couple of seasons that day was a totally new experience for me, when the place actually lived up to all the stories I'd been told.
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Bradford in 1988.
Great days indeed, my student grant pee'd up the wall on the Division 2 promotion trail under Sir Graham.
Its got me ready to go for tomorrow, Sunday a distant memory.
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Man Utd boxing day 89
Tranmere 94
Blues 5-0
I remember those being unreal
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Glad they posted this because I've never been to a match before and wouldn't know how to sing or shout without a "pay attention to me" fan group explaining it for me.
Totally agree.
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Glad they posted this because I've never been to a match before and wouldn't know how to sing or shout without a "pay attention to me" fan group explaining it for me.
Totally agree.
You're aware most of the messaging they do goes via the club first? They decided to get the group more involved precisely because they felt the atmosphere needed a helping hand.
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Couldn't care less about the politics or how liked this group are, they are absolutely right, tomorrow night is about doing everything within our power to help the team win. I'll be shouting my voice ragged from K1.
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Couldn't care less about the politics or how liked this group are, they are absolutely right, tomorrow night is about doing everything within our power to help the team win. I'll be shouting my voice ragged from K1.
Just as you would have done without this message. We don't need to be told how to shout. It's a semi-final, FFS.
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Only Villa fans could turn on their own for such a thing as encouraging a good atmosphere ::)
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This needs to be a night like Inter/Atletico/Bayern for atmosphere...we score first and they will crumble..
That 1994 Inter night was incredible. I've never experienced an atmosphere like it.
If all can re-create that, we're through.
1994 - Wall of Noise. IIRC the Holte End Upper wasn't open. I even had a couple of Nose fans admit they were cheering us whilst they were watching at home as the game progressed.
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Bradford in 1988.
Top Class
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Couldn't care less about the politics or how liked this group are, they are absolutely right, tomorrow night is about doing everything within our power to help the team win. I'll be shouting my voice ragged from K1.
Just as you would have done without this message. We don't need to be told how to shout. It's a semi-final, FFS.
Yeah that is a fair point. Still got no issues with them trying to encourage some of the quieter fans into making noise though.
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Only Villa fans could turn on their own for such a thing as encouraging a good atmosphere ::)
It's not so much that, I get annoyed at any self-appointed groups instructing me on how to support the team when I've stood on a half empty terrace at Selhurst Park in the pissing rain watching us gub a penalty shoot out again, plus these groups tend towards this 'ultras' bollocks which I vehemently oppose.
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Yeah, and they're pro-drum.
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Yeah, and they're pro-drum.
That is enough to have them rounded up and shot.
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I was in the old Trinity Upper for that Inter game directly level with the penalty spot at the shootout end.... Still get goosebumps thinking about it.
Hope to God it doesn't play out the same tomorrow night, I'm 50 now and don't think my ticker could cope! A nice routine 3-0 win please Villa.
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Couldn't care less about the politics or how liked this group are, they are absolutely right, tomorrow night is about doing everything within our power to help the team win. I'll be shouting my voice ragged from K1.
Just as you would have done without this message. We don't need to be told how to shout. It's a semi-final, FFS.
So was the match vs Palace last season (in the FA cup), but you wouldn't know that from the lack of noise from Villa fans on that day.
So maybe they do need reminding...some more than others! I'm hoping the Trinity, Doug Eliis and Upper North stands don't wait for the Holte to invite them to get involved!
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Couldn't care less about the politics or how liked this group are, they are absolutely right, tomorrow night is about doing everything within our power to help the team win. I'll be shouting my voice ragged from K1.
Just as you would have done without this message. We don't need to be told how to shout. It's a semi-final, FFS.
So was the match vs Palace last season (in the FA cup), but you wouldn't know that from the lack of noise from Villa fans on that day.
So maybe they do need reminding...some more than others! I'm hoping the Trinity, Doug Eliis and Upper North stands don't wait for the Holte to invite them to get involved!
We lost that day because we were unbelievably shit on the pitch, and the noise from the stands reflected that.
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Exactly. If Villa start well, the crowd will be very loud. If we see Tottenham-style timidity, not so much.
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Couldn't care less about the politics or how liked this group are, they are absolutely right, tomorrow night is about doing everything within our power to help the team win. I'll be shouting my voice ragged from K1.
Just as you would have done without this message. We don't need to be told how to shout. It's a semi-final, FFS.
So was the match vs Palace last season (in the FA cup), but you wouldn't know that from the lack of noise from Villa fans on that day.
So maybe they do need reminding...some more than others! I'm hoping the Trinity, Doug Eliis and Upper North stands don't wait for the Holte to invite them to get involved!
We lost that day because we were unbelievably shit on the pitch, and the noise from the stands reflected that.
I know why we lost.
We were also woeful from the stands from start to finish, irrespective of performance.
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What is the 1897 group's sectarianism? Have I missed something? Don't tell me they're part of Zack Polanskis boob-enlarging Islamists are they?
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Exactly. If Villa start well, the crowd will be very loud. If we see Tottenham-style timidity, not so much.
How about the fans be very loud before the Villa players start and continue throughout the game.
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Bradford in 1988.
My second ever game as a 7 year old. I thought it would always be like that. It wasn’t.
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What is the 1897 group's sectarianism? Have I missed something? Don't tell me they're part of Zack Polanskis boob-enlarging Islamists are they?
Heard rumors at least one of them was... shocking stuff.
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My god how self-aggrandising.
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I don't like organised nonsense. We shouldn't have to do anything to get the crowd going for this match. But if this sort of message helps build a sense of occasion what's the harm?
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No harm whatsoever, but also this is site is choc full of grumpy old geezers so to expect universal acclaim was always going to be a stretch.
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Drums and sectarianism given an amnesty for one evening only!
It is old but it is beautiful and its colours they are fine
It was worn at Wembley, Anfield, Old Trafford and the Sty...
My father wore it as a youth in bygone days of yore
So on the 7th I proudly wear, the scarf my father wore.
🤣🤣👏👏👏 that is funny!
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I don't like organised nonsense. We shouldn't have to do anything to get the crowd going for this match. But if this sort of message helps build a sense of occasion what's the harm?
I have to agree, doubt I will be on Trinity Road at 6.15, but good on anyone who is. I don’t like the organised stuff and hate the “lets make some noise” but if this gets people engaged then I don’t see the harm to be honest
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If it meant going through tomorrow night, I’d quite happily have Cliff Richards do a pre-match turn.
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If it meant going through tomorrow night, I’d quite happily have Cliff Richards do a pre-match turn.
as long as it’s not Micah fkin Richards.
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If it meant going through tomorrow night, I’d quite happily have Cliff Richards do a pre-match turn.
I'd watch him, from a distance.
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If it meant going through tomorrow night, I’d quite happily have Cliff Richards do a pre-match turn.
I won't mind if they're playing Congratulations post-match.
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I have spare petrol bombs if anyone wants to greet the Forest coach.
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If it meant going through tomorrow night, I’d quite happily have Cliff Richards do a pre-match turn.
I won't mind if they're playing Congratulations post-match.
I won't mind Forest chasing Shadows throughout the game either.
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If it meant going through tomorrow night, I’d quite happily have Cliff Richards do a pre-match turn.
I won't mind if they're playing Congratulations post-match.
I won't mind Forest chasing Shadows throughout the game either.
With Jesus up front for them, I hope it's not the Saviour's Day.
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Yeah, and they're pro-drum.
I feel another list being penned.
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Can I bring my rattle ? I had it at the Southampton Cup replay in 68/69. It was possibly even noisier that night than the Man U semi in 70/71.
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If it meant going through tomorrow night, I’d quite happily have Cliff Richards do a pre-match turn.
I won't mind if they're playing Congratulations post-match.
I won't mind Forest chasing Shadows throughout the game either.
With Jesus up front for them, I hope it's not the Saviour's Day.
...hope we are 'Wired For Sound' tomorrow and play the correct anthem pre match 🫣
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NO.
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Wired for Sound is an absolute stone cold banger.
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‘Christmas time, John McGinn down the line’.
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Can I bring my rattle ? I had it at the Southampton Cup replay in 68/69. It was possibly even noisier that night than the Man U semi in 70/71.
I was at the Saints replay with my Dad, incredible atmosphere
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Come on Villa, Take Me High tomorrow night.
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Can I bring my rattle ? I had it at the Southampton Cup replay in 68/69. It was possibly even noisier that night than the Man U semi in 70/71.
I was at the Saints replay with my Dad, incredible atmosphere
I was there too, with 59,000 others. An amazing night.
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If it meant going through tomorrow night, I’d quite happily have Cliff Richards do a pre-match turn.
I won't mind if they're playing Congratulations post-match.
I won't mind Forest chasing Shadows throughout the game either.
With Jesus up front for them, I hope it's not the Saviour's Day.
...hope we are 'Wired For Sound' tomorrow and play the correct anthem pre match 🫣
When I lived in Nottingham I was in a relationship for a year or so with a girl who was (is) a Forest fan. I thought she was a Living Doll but turned into a Devil Woman.
Come on CD lighten up
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Yeah, and they're pro-drum.
That is enough to have them rounded up and shot.
Way too lenient.
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Is it right that they’ve been allowed a drum into Villa park tomorrow night!?
We need the whole ground to sing a chorus of “Stick the fucking drum up your arse” tomorrow night if so, until they shut the fuck up.
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If it meant going through tomorrow night, I’d quite happily have Cliff Richards do a pre-match turn.
I won't mind if they're playing Congratulations post-match.
I won't mind Forest chasing Shadows throughout the game either.
With Jesus up front for them, I hope it's not the Saviour's Day.
...hope we are 'Wired For Sound' tomorrow and play the correct anthem pre match 🫣
When I lived in Nottingham I was in a relationship for a year or so with a girl who was (is) a Forest fan. I thought she was a Living Doll but turned into a Devil Woman.
Come on CD lighten up
...not a Millennium Prayer CD will join in....
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Is it right that they’ve been allowed a drum into Villa park tomorrow night!?
We need the whole ground to sing a chorus of “Stick the fucking drum up your arse” tomorrow night if so, until they shut the fuck up.
The club has sanctioned it yeah.
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Is it right that they’ve been allowed a drum into Villa park tomorrow night!?
We need the whole ground to sing a chorus of “Stick the fucking drum up your arse” tomorrow night if so, until they shut the fuck up.
The club has sanctioned it yeah.
Criminal
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Is it right that they’ve been allowed a drum into Villa park tomorrow night!?
We need the whole ground to sing a chorus of “Stick the fucking drum up your arse” tomorrow night if so, until they shut the fuck up.
The club has sanctioned it yeah.
Criminal
Seriously consider not going to Villa Park if the Drum bollocks is going to be a feature.
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Yeah, and they're pro-drum.
And me... The Drakes Drum
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Sounds desperate tbh....not really my cup of tea but why the hell would you trial it in a game of this magnitude? This sort of stuff takes time to get right and a wide audience on board...I can only see most the crowd thinking wtf and not really knowing what is going on so it will have a detrimental effect
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Is it right that they’ve been allowed a drum into Villa park tomorrow night!?
We need the whole ground to sing a chorus of “Stick the fucking drum up your arse” tomorrow night if so, until they shut the fuck up.
The club has sanctioned it yeah.
Criminal
Seriously consider not going to Villa Park if the Drum bollocks is going to be a feature.
Drums are the worst thing. It wouldnt be so bad if they actually had a rythm like the bharat army do at the cricket. But just a repeative continued grating background noise. If I wanted that I would just listen to talk sport.
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How do we let the club know that we don’t want this shit?
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How do we let the club know that we don’t want this shit?
fancomplaints@avfc.co.uk
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If we’ve got a drum, we deserve to get beat.
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When I read the above I thought Forest were allowed a drum but presume it’s the 1897 group. If it helps get more fans to get up and sing I’m happy if they bring bagpipes and vuvuzuelas
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Fuck no.
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How do we let the club know that we don’t want this shit?
fancomplaints@avfc.co.uk
Done.
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How do we let the club know that we don’t want this shit?
fancomplaints@avfc.co.uk
Done.
👍🏼
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Drums and sectarianism given an amnesty for one evening only!
It is old but it is beautiful and its colours they are fine
It was worn at Wembley, Anfield, Old Trafford and the Sty...
My father wore it as a youth in bygone days of yore
So on the 7th I proudly wear, the scarf my father wore.
Top work Gary.
Can we see your version of Build my Gallows next?😉
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If we’ve got a drum, we deserve to get beat.
...doffs cap...👏
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Can we see your version of Build my Gallows next?😉
That might be pushing it. :)
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So do I actually have to find a scarf
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So do I actually have to find a scarf
Just artfully spill a bit of ribena and WKD on a strip of bed linen if it comes to it 👌
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Sounds desperate tbh....not really my cup of tea but why the hell would you trial it in a game of this magnitude? This sort of stuff takes time to get right and a wide audience on board...I can only see most the crowd thinking wtf and not really knowing what is going on so it will have a detrimental effect
Yup. I'm not there tomorrow, I don't really care. It won't be a big deal either way.
But if you think this is a good thing and could be some sort of marginal gain, give it a run-out against Bologna. Or Young Boys.
Just all a bit amateurish.
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If we’ve got a drum, we deserve to get beat.
How snare you?!
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If we’ve got a drum, we deserve to get beat.
How snare you?!
Beat it!
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Hopefully the drum brings better luck than the bugle did against Celta.
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So do I actually have to find a scarf
There will be some nice half-and-half scarves available outside before the game.
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So do I actually have to find a scarf
There will be some nice half-and-half scarves available outside before the game.
...sad but true...
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Amount of people complaining about a drum when they let people into the ground wearing that shite.
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Thank you for telling me how to support us. I'm sorry I won't be there like I used to be for countless seasons on end. I'll have to just cheer us on from home.
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A drum in each stand would be better. Drum battles!!!
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Not even in jest.
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If we had multiple drummers we could do Kings of the Wild Frontier.
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If we had multiple drummers we could do Kings of the Wild Frontier.
we'd probably get the drummer from the firing squad...🙄
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I hope the tifo is drum related.
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I hope the tifo is drum related.
..or maybe a half and half scarf on fire...🙈
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If we’ve got a drum, we deserve to get beat.
How snare you?!
Beat it!
A pity Jackson didn't just do that instead of molesting kids.
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I didn’t even mean that pun (I promise CD), just really don’t like drums in football stadiums. But as puns go, it was accidentally brilliant.
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I hope the drummer knows a few Villa songs, or we could end up listening to his Boys Brigade repertoire ....
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I hope the drummer knows a few Villa songs, or we could end up listening to his Boys Brigade repertoire ....
I hope the drummer has a pre match Villa chippy special and gets food poisoning.
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Just took my 95 year old neighbour to vote - the queue was huge.
When she finally got to booth, she said loudly - "which box do I mark to stop the drums", and the whole place cheered, and spontaneously broke out into a chorus of Holte Enders in the Sky (full version).
Never seen anything like this before.
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Just took my 95 year old neighbour to vote - the queue was huge.
When she finally got to booth, she said loudly - "which box do I mark to stop the drums", and the whole place cheered, and spontaneously broke out into a chorus of Holte Enders in the Sky (full version).
Never seen anything like this before.
Haha - that's ace.
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There was a version of, "I hear the sound, of distant drums"
Can not remember the lyrics
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I mean if we bring a drum in we should probably be banned from Europe for a few years. Frankly we're lucky we haven't been kicked out already for our PA guy going "Yay let's do a Villa Park roar Yippi ai ay" every week. Leicester winning the league didn't count because of their fucking clappers and us winning this wouldn't count if we have a bastard drum.
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There was a version of, "I hear the sound, of distant drums"
Can not remember the lyrics
I hear the sound of distant scum
Over there, Over there
And if they come, we shall not run *
*I was about 14 at the time and in the school cross country team
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You and I travel to the beat of a different drum,
Bring one to the Villa and I'll bring my gun
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Amount of people complaining about a drum when they let people into the ground wearing that shite.
And yet, if there had been no drums when Ozzy played Villa Park, the same people would have complained about that. Bizarre!
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Amount of people complaining about a drum when they let people into the ground wearing that shite.
Drums and half and half scarves are both equally and irredeemably naff.
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I'm bringing a triangle and my friend is bringing his tambourine.
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I'm bringing a triangle and my friend is bringing his tambourine.
"If you're happy and you know it clap your hands...
If you're happy and you know it clap your hands...
If you're happy and you know it and you really want to show it....
Then Fuck the fuckers...."
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Should have got Dion Dublin in to play his dube instead, missed a trick there.
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I’ve got the Kula Shaker song in my head. That’s even worse than thinking about a drum at Villa Park.
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Just took my 95 year old neighbour to vote - the queue was huge.
When she finally got to booth, she said loudly - "which box do I mark to stop the drums", and the whole place cheered, and spontaneously broke out into a chorus of Holte Enders in the Sky (full version).
Never seen anything like this before.
Like.
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And the name of that bus? William McGregor.
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Just took my 95 year old neighbour to vote - the queue was huge.
When she finally got to booth, she said loudly - "which box do I mark to stop the drums", and the whole place cheered, and spontaneously broke out into a chorus of Holte Enders in the Sky (full version).
Never seen anything like this before.
Like.
Sounds implausible in 2026. Maybe in '82
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Just took my 95 year old neighbour to vote - the queue was huge.
When she finally got to booth, she said loudly - "which box do I mark to stop the drums", and the whole place cheered, and spontaneously broke out into a chorus of Holte Enders in the Sky (full version).
Never seen anything like this before.
Love this
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Fight, and win!
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If we win tonight they can bring Larry Mullen if they want.
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There was a version of, "I hear the sound, of distant drums"
Can not remember the lyrics
I hear the sound of distant scum
Over there, Over there
And if they come, we shall not run *
*I was about 14 at the time and in the school cross country team
And do they smell..... Like fucking hell
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I'm the only Drum allowed in Villa Park tonight.
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Fight, and win!
Go you Aston Villa!
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If we are getting flags do we still need to bring scarves?
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I’m going to combine the two into a flarf.
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There was a version of, "I hear the sound, of distant drums"
Can not remember the lyrics
I hear the sound of distant scum
Over there, Over there
And if they come, we shall not run *
*I was about 14 at the time and in the school cross country team
I remember it when we used to sing
“And do they smell, like fuckin’ ‘ell” as the last line.
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There was a version of, "I hear the sound, of distant drums"
Can not remember the lyrics
I hear the sound of distant scum
Over there, Over there
And if they come, we shall not run *
*I was about 14 at the time and in the school cross country team
I remember it when we used to sing
“And do they smell, like fuckin’ ‘ell” as the last line.
I’d forgotten about that chant, it was sung in the 60’s when I first started going down the Villa