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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on April 25, 2026, 07:24:14 PM
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Semi-final 1st leg. Thursday 30th, 8pm ko.
1-1
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Need to be so much better and sharper than we were today. Don’t leave with regrets Villa.
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Give me the draw now.
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0-2
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Is this the first time ever a pre-match has started on the same day as the previous game?
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No.
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for me, the biggest game of the season so far. A draw wouldn't be the worst result.
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We should have hammered them in the last league game. We need to sharpen up and stop being so wasteful.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Maatsen
Onana
Tielemans
McGinn
Watkins
Rogers
Buendia
1-2 us
Watkins, McGinn
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Too early.
Let's ruminate on today for a bit fust.
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Both teams to win their home game 1-0. Tie goes to penalties.
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Lmao oh god
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My heart and my arse would be in a contest to see which broke first.
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We're both where we are for a reason. We're better than them.
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I just hope we turn up. 3rd (semi) time lucky ?
They will be massively up for it and know they need to make the home leg count.
I think we’ll be chasing the tie at Villa Park.
2-0 Forest.
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We had enough chances to win last time. We can win this time or at minimum grab a draw. But I’ve got my claret and blue tinted glasses on.
1-0 to us. Ollie
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I'm getting a WBA in the playoffs vibe, except none of ours can take a penalty these days. Oh for Conor Hourihane.
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I'm getting a WBA in the playoffs vibe, except none of ours can take a penalty these days. Oh for Conor Hourihane.
Id get El ghazi for a few weeks too.
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The last time we played any sort of cup game against them. Can't believe this was 30 years ago. Same score would do me.
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2.1 to them
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Torres up against Wood? Unai needs to think about that one as I think we will get bullied. I'd be really tempted to play Lindelof in this game. Buendia needs to be on the bench, far too soft for this sort of game.
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Torres up against Wood? Unai needs to think about that one as I think we will get bullied. I'd be really tempted to play Lindelof in this game. Buendia needs to be on the bench, far too soft for this sort of game.
Genuine question, who would you bring in instead of Beundia, presuming Onana will be back instead of Bogarde?
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Torres up against Wood? Unai needs to think about that one as I think we will get bullied. I'd be really tempted to play Lindelof in this game. Buendia needs to be on the bench, far too soft for this sort of game.
Genuine question, who would you bring in instead of Beundia, presuming Onana will be back instead of Bogarde?
Push Youri further forward, Onana and Luiz as the two with McGinn and Rogers left and right. Buendia does not affect the game enough, especially in tighter areas. He lost the ball far too many times yesterday and this is a feature of his game.
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Torres up against Wood? Unai needs to think about that one as I think we will get bullied. I'd be really tempted to play Lindelof in this game. Buendia needs to be on the bench, far too soft for this sort of game.
Genuine question, who would you bring in instead of Beundia, presuming Onana will be back instead of Bogarde?
Luiz, Rogers to the Left.
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After yesterday, I can't help being worried.
Forest have discovered form and we can't afford another dismal 2nd half like at Craven Cottage. I hope I'm wrong, but I can see us going into the 2nd leg with a 2-goal deficit.
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Some on here will no doubt turn Forest into prime Barca. There is a reason why we are both 5th in opposite side of the table. Unai will learn from previous semi finals and sort this.
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Do we count Forest's results from the beginning of the season, three or four managers ago, as a barometer of how good or bad they are or more recent form? I assume the 2026 calendar league table has them ahead of us.
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Their recent good form consists of two draws, 1-0 at home to Porto and beating Sunderland, Burnley and Spurs. This appears to make them unbeatable.
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Do we count Forest's results from the beginning of the season, three or four managers ago, as a barometer of how good or bad they are or more recent form? I assume the 2026 calendar league table has them ahead of us.
Yes, it’s the managerial appointments that scuppered their season, Nuno to Ange to Dyche.
Their recent league form DWDWW ours LWDWL. We just put in a turgid performance at Fulham and they just hammered Sunderland.
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Let's not bother then.
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Let's not bother then.
There a several who believe weve already been beaten Dave.
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We had all these noises about the Palace semi final last season. We're better than them etc, etc.
This is going to be the toughest tie of the tournament so far and we're not as great as some on here seem to think we are. We can get this over the line at Villa Park as long as we don't shit the bed like FA Cup and Conference semis.
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There's a world of difference between thinking it's going to be tough and thinking we shouldn't bother turning up. That said it's a major semi-final, you'd expect it to be tough. Play like we know we can then we'll go through, but if we play like we know we can, we'll go out. Such is the Villa way.
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Thought we battered them home and away, but just wasted tonnes of chances at their ground.
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There's a world of difference between thinking it's going to be tough and thinking we shouldn't bother turning up. That said it's a major semi-final, you'd expect it to be tough. Play like we know we can then we'll go through, but if we play like we know we can, we'll go out. Such is the Villa way.
The equivalent on a Forest site reads play like we know we can then we've got a chance, but if we play like we know we can, we'll get hammered . Such is the Forest way.
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I’m feeling reasonably optimistic about the semi final. We’re in reasonable form and if we turn up I think we’re better than them over the two legs. I’d say we’re slight favourites but it’ll be tough particularly at their place. If we can sharpen up from yesterdays performance then I think there’s every chance we can ensure we’re still in the tie when we get back to VP.
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Since Wood come back and they partnered him up front with Jesus, they have scored 9 goals in the last 135 minutes!! Highlighted their high press on MOTD last night which attributed to many of the goals.
We have enough to beat Forest over 2 legs. But we better be prepared to be up for a scrap, run our b*llocks off and 'NOT' play out from the back.
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On paper we are better than them, of course we are.
Yesterday’s performance reminds us though that Villa are more than capable of not turning up/freezing/shitting the bed.
I am absolutely desperate for us to win this tie, win this competition AND qualify for the CL. We could have pretty much done the latter yesterday and relaxed into the EL games.
The Villa way means I have to be a nervous wreck for a few more weeks yet !!!!!
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They are 16th in the league for a reason. We are 5th in the league for a reason.
Over 2 legs there is no excuse
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They are 16th in the league for a reason. We are 4th in the league for a reason.
Over 2 legs there is no excuse
5th
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They've been better than us in 2026. The "reason" why we are both in our respective league positions is because of our performances in 2025.
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Since Wood come back and they partnered him up front with Jesus, they have scored 9 goals in the last 135 minutes!! Highlighted their high press on MOTD last night which attributed to many of the goals.
We have enough to beat Forest over 2 legs. But we better be prepared to be up for a scrap, run our b*llocks off and 'NOT' play out from the back.
We’ve played out from the back in virtually every game since Emery arrived
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Since Wood come back and they partnered him up front with Jesus, they have scored 9 goals in the last 135 minutes!! Highlighted their high press on MOTD last night which attributed to many of the goals.
We have enough to beat Forest over 2 legs. But we better be prepared to be up for a scrap, run our b*llocks off and 'NOT' play out from the back.
We’ve played out from the back in virtually every game since Emery arrived
That's what Forest are hoping for. Let's try Plan B for a change.
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They are 16th in the league for a reason. We are 5th in the league for a reason.
Over 2 legs there is no excuse
Their league position is down to a chaotic first two thirds of the season. Their ship has been steadied and they look more like the Forest of last season.
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Our poor run was down to having our midfield missing.
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We still have, potentially, two of them missing.
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I've been so positive all season even when going through the bad spells. However after yesterday I just can't help but have negative feelings about the two leg Semi Final. Yesterday should have been a positive show of intent and the potential of 3 massive points. The manner of the tepid display just gave out all the wrong vibes from both manager and players. We seem incapable of pressing on when the stakes are high. Unless this changes I think Forest will beat us over the two legs. They can almost wait in both games for McGinn to go off on 70 mins knowing Villa will fold. The thought of Sancho and Bailey trying to to save the game against a tough Forest team is scary. Unai needs to go at both games with positive intent. The players need to not only control the game but play quickly through the lines and over the top onto the channels. We need to be fucking clinical in front of goal. These glorious missed chances will be the difference on reaching a major final. Somehow on 70 mins a solution to McGinn going off needs to be found. It isn't Bailey....
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Since Wood come back and they partnered him up front with Jesus, they have scored 9 goals in the last 135 minutes!! Highlighted their high press on MOTD last night which attributed to many of the goals.
We have enough to beat Forest over 2 legs. But we better be prepared to be up for a scrap, run our b*llocks off and 'NOT' play out from the back.
We’ve played out from the back in virtually every game since Emery arrived
That's what Forest are hoping for. Let's try Plan B for a change.
I would imagine that they're hoping our keeper passes the ball to Wood or that we don't mark Jesus under any circumstances, like Sunderland decided they wouldn't.
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Since Wood come back and they partnered him up front with Jesus, they have scored 9 goals in the last 135 minutes!! Highlighted their high press on MOTD last night which attributed to many of the goals.
We have enough to beat Forest over 2 legs. But we better be prepared to be up for a scrap, run our b*llocks off and 'NOT' play out from the back.
We’ve played out from the back in virtually every game since Emery arrived
Indeed and it’s fine when we get it right, because then we can play through the press. I wouldn’t be chucking away our game plan because people are spooked after Forest had a couple of decent games.
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Come and press us. Please. Relentlessly. All game and all tie. We'd absolutely haaaaate to create space in your midfield like that. Brutally efficient transitions are not something we enjoy at all.
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Come and press us. Please. Relentlessly. All game and all tie. We'd absolutely haaaaate to create space in your midfield like that. Brutally efficient transitions are not something we enjoy at all.
Indeed, anything they do to open the game works in our favour. What we don’t want is them sitting back.
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We've lost a game (despite having three really good chances to put it to bed) and some are losing their heads. A bit of positivity will do some the world of good.
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Shit result yesterday and lacklustre performance against an average team, but Rogers should of buried his chance in the first half, Watkins was unlucky with his, but then him and Abraham both guilty of bad finishing in the 2nd half. So even with a relatively tepid performance we should off scored three or four.
With that in mind I just don’t get the major wobble at the thought of facing forest over two games. It will more than likely be tough, I wouldn’t expect a semi final to be anything less, they could even batter us over the two games, but there is zero evidence over the last three years to suggest we should be shitting ourselves at the prospect of playing them.
Its going to be a long few days with all the angst.
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Wasteful against Forest and Fulham and a whisker away from a full collapse against Sunderland. I don't think anyone is losing their heads, just concerned at the warning signs that a rejuvenated Forest side could possibly exploit.
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Come and press us. Please. Relentlessly. All game and all tie. We'd absolutely haaaaate to create space in your midfield like that. Brutally efficient transitions are not something we enjoy at all.
Indeed, anything they do to open the game works in our favour. What we don’t want is them sitting back.
Which is what they will do, Masters of the low block, swamp midfield hit on the break.
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I'm not one of those panicking but I hope for more intensity, purpose and pace. When we revert to the slow, slow build-up we become very predictable.
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We've lost a game (despite having three really good chances to put it to bed) and some are losing their heads. A bit of positivity will do some the world of good.
‘Losing their heads’ ? Fucking hell ! Are you always so fucking deliberately obtrusive ?
It’s a pre match thread. People are just voicing their thoughts and concerns.
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I'm not one of those panicking but I hope for more intensity, purpose and pace. When we revert to the slow, slow build-up we become very predictable.
I have not seen anyone panicking or say we shouldn’t bother.
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Come and press us. Please. Relentlessly. All game and all tie. We'd absolutely haaaaate to create space in your midfield like that. Brutally efficient transitions are not something we enjoy at all.
Indeed, anything they do to open the game works in our favour. What we don’t want is them sitting back.
Which is what they will do, Masters of the low block, swamp midfield hit on the break.
So they are great at a high press and masters of the low block at the same time. Impressive.
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We've lost a game (despite having three really good chances to put it to bed) and some are losing their heads. A bit of positivity will do some the world of good.
‘Losing their heads’ ? Fucking hell ! Are you always so fucking deliberately obtrusive ?
It’s a pre match thread. People are just voicing their thoughts and concerns.
Calm down Mr Angry.
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Come and press us. Please. Relentlessly. All game and all tie. We'd absolutely haaaaate to create space in your midfield like that. Brutally efficient transitions are not something we enjoy at all.
Indeed, anything they do to open the game works in our favour. What we don’t want is them sitting back.
Which is what they will do, Masters of the low block, swamp midfield hit on the break.
So they are great at a high press and masters of the low block at the same time. Impressive.
That would be impressive.
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Cole Palmer has the unique distinction of somehow making Garnacho look handsome.
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I'm not one of those panicking but I hope for more intensity, purpose and pace. When we revert to the slow, slow build-up we become very predictable.
I have not seen anyone panicking or say we shouldn’t bother.
Plenty of post-Fulham doomsters...
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I’d gladly take us absolutely stinking the City Ground out to high heaven and coming home with a draw.
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I'm not one of those panicking but I hope for more intensity, purpose and pace. When we revert to the slow, slow build-up we become very predictable.
I have not seen anyone panicking or say we shouldn’t bother.
Plenty of post-Fulham doomsters...
It was a horrible performance and on the back of it people are a bit pessimistic.
No big deal.
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I’d gladly take us absolutely stinking the City Ground out to high heaven and coming home with a draw.
You must feel a bit torn, being a former Forest player.
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Torres can't be as bad again. McGinn and Tielemans won't be either. Lindelof needs to start ahead of Konsa though, he's in better form and was outstanding at Forest a couple of weeks ago. Not sure why Digne is back playing two games every week either, was abysmal yesterday and poor at Forest. Would like to see Maatsen back in there. Onana played really well at Forest but if he's out again then im sure what we go with. Bogarde definitely isn't the answer and Luiz/Tielemans rarely was in the past. I think we are going to see a response to the no show at Fulham and a hard fought 1-1 draw.
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I'm not one of those panicking but I hope for more intensity, purpose and pace. When we revert to the slow, slow build-up we become very predictable.
I have not seen anyone panicking or say we shouldn’t bother.
Plenty of post-Fulham doomsters...
Why wouldn't there be? This is all following a familiar pattern.
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I’d gladly take us absolutely stinking the City Ground out to high heaven and coming home with a draw.
You must feel a bit torn, being a former Forest player.
It's the thing we haven't ever dared to say since Des is an intelligent and funny poster but l guess it is now finally time for him to explain himself. The changing of Lyttle to Little is surely subterfuge.
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I’d gladly take us absolutely stinking the City Ground out to high heaven and coming home with a draw.
You must feel a bit torn, being a former Forest player.
It's the thing we haven't ever dared to say since Des is an intelligent and funny poster but l guess it is now finally time for him to explain himself. The changing of Lyttle to Little is surely subterfuge.
Ha I’ll take intelligent all day long thank you! Des is actually a hybrid of my two (printable) nicknames to form a username - and before anyone says it, the Little bit has nothing to do with my lack of prowess
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I’d gladly take us absolutely stinking the City Ground out to high heaven and coming home with a draw.
You must feel a bit torn, being a former Forest player.
It's the thing we haven't ever dared to say since Des is an intelligent and funny poster but l guess it is now finally time for him to explain himself. The changing of Lyttle to Little is surely subterfuge.
Ha I’ll take intelligent all day long thank you! Des is actually a hybrid of my two (printable) nicknames to form a username - and before anyone says it, the Little bit has nothing to do with my lack of prowess
Ah, Degsy or Potless Bigcock, we meet at last.
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Wrong thread.
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Wrong thread.
Impossible as the posts above prove!
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Thought we battered them home and away, but just wasted tonnes of chances at their ground.
Fairly confident that we can beat them at Villa Park, but the away leg could be tricky. If they are very physical, niggly and the atmosphere is hostile there, then I can see us struggling as we don't really cope with that well. They have enough quality to cause problems if they have a 'worldie' type performance.
We just aren't the tyoe of team who can go away and put in the type of performance that completely snuffs out a team.
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Win the duels, win the games.
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I’d gladly take us absolutely stinking the City Ground out to high heaven and coming home with a draw.
You must feel a bit torn, being a former Forest player.
It's the thing we haven't ever dared to say since Des is an intelligent and funny poster but l guess it is now finally time for him to explain himself. The changing of Lyttle to Little is surely subterfuge.
I remember having the Des Lyttle sticker in a Merlin album, many years ago.
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We need to step up for this. Sick of lack of silverware. Even at cost of league, give it our all. Fuck bogey teams and defecating the daffodils (mr Woodall is that better than shitting the bed). Draw at forest then dismantle at Villa park.
Up
The
Fucking
Villa.
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Forest have beaten us 3 times in the last 22 games, we're their bogey team.
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Looks like Forest might be struggling at CB on Thursday - Murillo missed the Sunderland game and isn't expected to be back, and his replacement Jair Cunha went off injured with a possible dislocated shoulder.
Means that Morato would play, which Forest fans seem to think would be very bad news for them.
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Forest have beaten us 3 times in the last 22 games, we're their bogey team.
Emery hadn't dropped points to Fulham in 8 games......
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A bit more intensity and passion
No Bailey substitute on 70 mins
Hope Onana is fit
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Don't think the Fulham result has any bearing on Thursday whatsoever. We're a team that can drop a stinky performance one week and look like world-beaters the next. Liverpool made us look like a Championship side earlier in the season before we did the same to Bouremouth. I'd be concerned if we're in a vein of poor form, but we where unbeaten in 6 before the weekend.
We're a better team then Forest, if we play to even 70% of what we're capable of, we'll be taking a level scoreline to VP at the very least.
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If we were playing a side we'd beaten 3 times in 22 attempts with the second leg at a ground we hadn't won at since Fenton was playing we'd be full of doom and gloom like when we play Palace. We often talk about our awful record against certain teams and going to their ground, it's nice to remember some fans think the same about playing us and a trip to VP.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Maatsen
Onana
Tielemans
McGinn
Watkins
Rogers
Buendia
That's the team I'd go with too. The only real question is do you play Torres or Mings especially if Wood starts for them. Despite Torres having a stinker at the weekend I'd give him the nod, he needs to be put to the test or at least given the opportunity to show he can cope up against a brick shithouse. Maatsen will need to work a double shift helping him out but he has the legs to run all day. On his game, Torres distribution is on another level. Big game for him but he's pretty much earned the trust.
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Need to get the mindset right and not fluff our lines - no Palace/Olympiakos SF jitters please. No Emi M Man Utd head loss please.
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If we were playing a side we'd beaten 3 times in 22 attempts with the second leg at a ground we hadn't won at since Fenton was playing we'd be full of doom and gloom like when we play Palace. We often talk about our awful record against certain teams and going to their ground, it's nice to remember some fans think the same about playing us and a trip to VP.
The irony being of course that it could well have been Palace over two legs...
GAE aside, We've yet to be properly tested in Europa so far. This will be a great test as to where we truly are as side in the comp. Beat this lot and I'll as good as book the day off for the parade.
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We need to step up for this. Sick of lack of silverware. Even at cost of league, give it our all. Fuck bogey teams and defecating the daffodils (mr Woodall is that better than shitting the bed). Draw at forest then dismantle at Villa park.
Up
The
Fucking
Villa.
This gets my vote.
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Now they have Chris Wood back, i wonder if he'll go with Mings over Torres?
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Now they have Chris Wood back, i wonder if he'll go with Mings over Torres?
That would get my vote.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Maatsen
Onana
Tielemans
McGinn
Watkins
Rogers
Buendia
That's the team I'd go with too. The only real question is do you play Torres or Mings especially if Wood starts for them. Despite Torres having a stinker at the weekend I'd give him the nod, he needs to be put to the test or at least given the opportunity to show he can cope up against a brick shithouse. Maatsen will need to work a double shift helping him out but he has the legs to run all day. On his game, Torres distribution is on another level. Big game for him but he's pretty much earned the trust.
Yep I agree with you. I think the easy option is Mings, but that essentially means away from home, we are looking to grind something out and try and deal with their physical threat. Torres against Wood will be a mis match physically, but it indicates we’re looking to open them up more, Fulham poor performance (from everyone) aside, Torres has been really good of late and from memory has played in all our big results over the last few years, e.g.various man city wins when theyve had Haslend, Bayern, PSG etc
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Wasn't that also the logic against Sunderland, Mings came in and we ended up all over the place?
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We had a great plan to stop Rowe a couple of weeks back. this time we need a plan to stop Neco Williams, scored against us last match and could of had a hattrick. Fulham's left back also scored against us. We need proper support for Cash.
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Wasn't that also the logic against Sunderland, Mings came in and we ended up all over the place?
Mings came in to deal with Brobbey despite your citing of Torres managing him fine two years against Ajax and he did it really well.
Sancho losing the ball three times, from which they scored two goals was not down to Ty.
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Wasn't that also the logic against Sunderland, Mings came in and we ended up all over the place?
Mings came in to deal with Brobbey despite your citing of Torres managing him fine two years against Ajax and he did it really well.
He also left a whopping great gap for Isidor to run through for the equaliser and did it again a few minutes later for Diarra to have a go.
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Depends on which version of this team that decides to turn up. Please don't be the shit version, they seem to pop up every time we least expect it. Play the best players we have available. Douglas needs to start this one. Need the cushion of a decent result going back to Villa Park.
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Wasn't that also the logic against Sunderland, Mings came in and we ended up all over the place?
Mings came in to deal with Brobbey despite your citing of Torres managing him fine two years against Ajax and he did it really well.
He also left a whopping great gap for Isidor to run through for the equaliser and did it again a few minutes later for Diarra to have a go.
Exactly this, the gap was huge!
Our offside trap also works far more efficiently with Torres co-ordinating it.
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Now they have Chris Wood back, i wonder if he'll go with Mings over Torres?
Hopefully not! They will let Mings have the ball and press our midfield hard. Lindelof should be ahead of Konsa too.
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Wasn't that also the logic against Sunderland, Mings came in and we ended up all over the place?
Mings came in to deal with Brobbey despite your citing of Torres managing him fine two years against Ajax and he did it really well.
He also left a whopping great gap for Isidor to run through for the equaliser and did it again a few minutes later for Diarra to have a go.
Konsa was at fault for the equaliser. Caught yards behind the defensive line. Mings was at sea for the one they missed alright. Lindelof/Torres were very solid at Forest only a few weeks ago and a no brainer to start them again.
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Let's face it, we would rather be facing Porto, least of all because it doesn't feel like a European tie, but Forest it is and for all the progress we have made, we need to win this tie. The no show at Wembley still haunts as does the failure 12 months prior to that, so for third time in 3 years it needs to be 3rd time lucky and that starts by coming away with something from Nottingham.
Fulham was actually quite typical of Emery's reign, every now and again we throw in a stinker but they are rare, and rarely consecutive. We all know which players we need and which ones we don't but I can't help thinking that Onana being fit may be key to our European hopes, we can overcome his absence domestically.
They will throw the tables and chairs at us, particularly 2nd half but a stoic defensive display could yield more than perhaps we expect.
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We had a great plan to stop Rowe a couple of weeks back. this time we need a plan to stop Neco Williams, scored against us last match and could of had a hattrick. Fulham's left back also scored against us. We need proper support for Cash.
McGinn was our motm at Forest, yes on the right wing....
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He also left a whopping great gap for Isidor to run through for the equaliser and did it again a few minutes later for Diarra to have a go.
Exactly this, the gap was huge!
Our offside trap also works far more efficiently with Torres co-ordinating it.
The gap was so big Wolves sing about it.
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I reckon we will beat them 2-1.
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Martinez
Konsa. Lindelof. Torres. Maatsen
Onana. Tielemans
Cash. . McGinn. Rogers
Watkins
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Forest haven't drawn a home game in Europe this season. We haven't drawn an away game in Europe this season. Time for a draw. Which would be fine with me. 1-1.
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Martinez
Konsa. Lindelof. Torres. Maatsen
Onana. Tielemans
Cash. . McGinn. Rogers
Watkins
I like it Drummond. Shores up the right side, Cash has put in more crosses this season than Sancho/Bailey combined, McGinn more involved and Buendia useless in a scrap.
I would also lock Bailey/Sancho in the car park.
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Onana won't be fit. We don't do "knocks".
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Let's face it, we would rather be facing Porto, least of all because it doesn't feel like a European tie, but Forest it is and for all the progress we have made, we need to win this tie. The no show at Wembley still haunts as does the failure 12 months prior to that, so for third time in 3 years it needs to be 3rd time lucky and that starts by coming away with something from Nottingham.
Fulham was actually quite typical of Emery's reign, every now and again we throw in a stinker but they are rare, and rarely consecutive. We all know which players we need and which ones we don't but I can't help thinking that Onana being fit may be key to our European hopes, we can overcome his absence domestically.
They will throw the tables and chairs at us, particularly 2nd half but a stoic defensive display could yield more than perhaps we expect.
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This is where I'm at.
Forest are beatable on their own ground. We should have won the PL fixture there. In Europe this season, their away form has been better than their home form. They've lost 3 of the 7 home fixtures they've had in the Europa League at the City Ground. We need to take our chances when they come. The defence needs to be tight and our goalie needs to avoid palming the ball back into open play, putting pressure onto our defence. UTV!
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Martinez
Konsa. Lindelof. Torres. Maatsen
Onana. Tielemans
Cash. . McGinn. Rogers
Watkins
I like it Drummond. Shores up the right side, Cash has put in more crosses this season than Sancho/Bailey combined, McGinn more involved and Buendia useless in a scrap.
I would also lock Bailey/Sancho in the car park.
How many crosses has Cash put in, three, four, five? He has difficulty crossing his legs despite being in excellent advanced positions he always looks to pass it back and let somebody else take responsibility. Leave him where he is, we want the players to know inside out their responsibilities, now is no the time for mad scientist experiments though I see the logic of Drummond wanting to bring in Lindelof as Konsa hasn't been at his best recently.
I'm sticking with Rambo's team for now. Hopefully Onana will be back.
EDIT: I'd also have lil' Emi in for a scrap. The lad loves a fight, sometimes too much.
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On paper we are better than them, of course we are.
Yesterday’s performance reminds us though that Villa are more than capable of not turning up/freezing/shitting the bed.
I am absolutely desperate for us to win this tie, win this competition AND qualify for the CL. We could have pretty much done the latter yesterday and relaxed into the EL games.
The Villa way means I have to be a nervous wreck for a few more weeks yet !!!!!
Indeed. It's time show that hopefully we are not hereditary bed-shitters and for once turn up and do a job when it matters.
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Cash as right midfield? No thank you
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Now they have Chris Wood back, i wonder if he'll go with Mings over Torres?
I really hope not - why change our game plan, and speed of build up (which has been fundamental to how we play) to accommodate a big lump like Woods.
Mings is a warrior but unfortunately he slows our game down to a walk when we have possession and not confident to play the balls inside to midflield like Torres*
*I grant you on Saturday Torres struggled to pass water - like most of them
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Didn't we try that when we lost 4-0 at home to Tottenham?
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Hangover out the system and now looking forward to Thursday massively.
I don't put great store into either of the weekend result. Sunderland were absolutely village in defending and I don't think we played with an iota of intensity.
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
Onana
Tielemans
McGinn
Buendia
Rogers
Watkins
Lets shovel them.
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Now they have Chris Wood back, i wonder if he'll go with Mings over Torres?
I really hope not - why change our game plan, and speed of build up (which has been fundamental to how we play) to accommodate a big lump like Woods.
Mings is a warrior but unfortunately he slows our game down to a walk when we have possession and not confident to play the balls inside to midflield like Torres*
*I grant you on Saturday Torres struggled to pass water - like most of them
I agree, our route to victory is playing through them. We need our best passers, although Pau was off it on Saturday.
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For some reason I was hopeful of getting something on Saturday, right up to the end.
So now I'm going back to my tried and trusted formula of unyielding pessimism.
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Martinez
Konsa. Lindelof. Torres. Maatsen
Onana. Tielemans
Cash. . McGinn. Rogers
Watkins
Cash in midfield? Not sure Emery would try that at Real Madrid. Cash and McGinn dominated the right side at Forest only a few weeks ago. More than capable of doing it again.
Martinez, Cash, Lindelof, Torres, Maatsen, Onana, Luiz, McGinn, Rogers, Tielemans, Watkins. If Onana is out then Tielemans back one and Buendia in.
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Cash as right midfield? No thank you
Absolutely this.
We tried it before and it didn’t work and this is NOT the game to fuck about with our system.
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Not to mention Konsa hasn’t played right back for months/years.
Go with the tried and trusted.
Hopefully Onana is fit.
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Cash as right midfield? No thank you
Absolutely this.
We tried it before and it didn’t work and this is NOT the game to fuck about with our system.
Amen.
Think Ads could be right with Digne starting. Maatsen off the bench though Digne has looked a bit knackered recently. Either should be able to take care of Hutchinson. Watching the highlights of Forest's 5-0 win, it was a comedy of errors from Sunderland though Forest were clinical with the gifts offered up.
Other than Gibbs White, Sels has always impressed me, good keeper. Let's see how good he is without their best centre back pairing.
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Going for a Villa win, with great caution, personally I think had we taken the Premiership route of 3pts Fulham, and then target Burnley for the other 3pts leaving the Spurs game and of course Man City and Liverpool in the lap of the gods, that would have been that, we would have sealed a Champions League place, now in 5th we need this win v Forest on Thursday, Villa are more than capable of getting a draw from this and then losing at Villa park under pressure.
For me we have to win every game now, pressure on, what a crazy result v Fulham.
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Just to clarify, I wouldn't pick it, bit could see Emery doing something like that to shore it up away form home and to get Forest thinking. Maatsen and Rogers on the left could be really dangerous.
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One thing that hasn't been said yet - have we ever gone into a big European game as the experienced team?
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Just dawned on me that we simply need to go DWW in the next three games to lock in the best season in...how many years? Argument for '82, whether we went on to win the final or not. Anyway, that has caused me to severely shit myself.
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Martinez
Konsa. Lindelof. Torres. Maatsen
Onana. Tielemans
Cash. . McGinn. Rogers
Watkins
Sort of side McLeish would pick at say Spurs away.
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Anybody know who the ref is? Hoping it’s someone who won’t be influenced by the crowd and will clamp down on anything physical!
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Find out Tuesday as they announced the team for the Tuesday game on Sunday and the Wednesday today. But it will be a European ref so I suspect they will.
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Anybody know who the ref is? Hoping it’s someone who won’t be influenced by the crowd and will clamp down on anything physical!
At the very least, I'm hoping he's not Greek.
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Turkish perhaps...
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Martinez, Cash, Lindelof, Torres, Maatsen, Onana, Luiz, McGinn, Rogers, Tielemans, Watkins. If Onana is out then Tielemans back one and Buendia in.
Yup, this looks like a decent team. I might start with Konsa at RB to give us a bit more ballast against their front two.
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I’m really not sure about Lindelof and Torres as a c/b pairing.
I rate Lindy very much, I think he’s been absolutely superb, but that pairing doesn’t ‘feel’ strong/powerful/mobile enough.
If Woods is playing we need physicality in the back line.
And yes I know, to be worried about a journeyman like Woods seems overkill, but players like him (Welbeck etc) have a tendency to do exactly what they are on the pitch for.
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Ref will appear on this page sometime today
https://law5-theref.blogspot.com/2026/04/europa-league-202526-referee_28.html
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Just to clarify, I wouldn't pick it, bit could see Emery doing something like that to shore it up away form home and to get Forest thinking. Maatsen and Rogers on the left could be really dangerous.
The more I think of it, Hudson-Odoi played left wing against us on the 12th April supported by Neco Williams. They tore us a new one.
But now, Hudson-Odoi is out injured for the season and Forest have opted for two big lads up front. We shouldn't have to shore up our right side and can revert to normal.
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No one tore us a new one at their place. We should have won.
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It seems goinf two up front has borne fruit for them, peobab ly as much as the teams they've played aren't used to it and couldn't adapt. I'd like to think if they go with that we more than possibly any other team will murder them in the space left elsewhere.
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No one tore us a new one at their place. We should have won.
They did down our right side.
Williams could have had a hat trick but only got one.
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No one tore us a new one at their place. We should have won.
They did down our right side.
Williams could have had a hat trick but only got one.
I have to disagree.
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As do I - when you’re away you’re always likely to come under some pressure. But make no mistake we had plenty of chances to comfortably win that game. Now, if we’re equally profligate then it’s obviously going to be a problem, but in no way did Forest dominate that game.
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NOTTINGHAM FOREST FC (ENG) - ASTON VILLA FC (ENG)
Referee: João Pinheiro POR
Assistant Referee 1: Bruno Jesus POR
Assistant Referee 2: Luciano Maia POR
Fourth Official: Espen Eskås NOR
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins POR
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: André Narciso POR
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni ITA
UEFA Delegate: Alexander Miescher SUI
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NOTTINGHAM FOREST FC (ENG) - ASTON VILLA FC (ENG)
Referee: João Pinheiro POR
Assistant Referee 1: Bruno Jesus POR
Assistant Referee 2: Luciano Maia POR
Fourth Official: Espen Eskås NOR
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins POR
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: André Narciso POR
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni ITA
UEFA Delegate: Alexander Miescher SUI
Did our Champions League win against Bologna last season and the away knockout leg against Brugge.
Don't remember any disasters, particularly in the first game.
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Ref is a Porto fan who has told his mom how upset and cheated he feels about their QF against Forest.
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Seems to have refereed us twice. 3-1 win at Brugge and 2-0 win vs Bologna.
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This is the most nervous I've been about a football match since we went to West Ham on the last day six years ago trying to stay up.
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Me too. I'm feeling incredibly antsy about it.
I want a trophy and I want to see SJM lifting it
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If we are nervous about this Thursday, we will be completely overwrought next week.
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You mean there's more!?
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If we are nervous about this Thursday, we will be completely overwrought next week.
Probably depends on how Thursday goes. I'll feel pretty calm taking a 4-0 lead back to Villa Park.
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I’m quite relaxed at the moment - I think we’ll win.
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If we are nervous about this Thursday, we will be completely overwrought next week.
Probably depends on how Thursday goes. I'll feel pretty calm taking a 4-0 lead back to Villa Park.
Calm ? Villa ? Semi final ?
You have a far stronger constitution than me.
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Blimey Paul. Could you send me some of whatever you're on!
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Unai has won the last 5 of the 6 Europa League semi-finals, his teams have competed in. He has a success rate of 83.3% in progressing to the final of this competition. Hopefully this success rate increases after playing Forest.
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Blimey Paul. Could you send me some of whatever you're on!
Ha ha it goes against character. Obviously I stand to be proven wrong, but I suspect their recent goal scoring flurry will embolden them to attack and if they do that clearly it presents some danger. However, at the same time, I think it absolutely plays into our strengths as well, if they leave space we will hurt them.
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I’m really not sure about Lindelof and Torres as a c/b pairing.
I rate Lindy very much, I think he’s been absolutely superb, but that pairing doesn’t ‘feel’ strong/powerful/mobile enough.
If Woods is playing we need physicality in the back line.
And yes I know, to be worried about a journeyman like Woods seems overkill, but players like him (Welbeck etc) have a tendency to do exactly what they are on the pitch for.
They didn't give Jesus or Wood a sniff when he came on (Lindelof/Torres). Playing Mings or even Konsa in his current form sends the wrong message. We will struggle to play the ball into midfield if they are selected. Mings isn't as good at organising the defensive line as he once was either. I fear Emery will play him, particularly if Onana is out, to give us height defending set pieces. Understand the logic but don't agree with it.
For me Tielemans form has been patchy since returning from injury, was average at Forest a few weeks ago. I'd try Tielemans at 10 instead and get Luiz back in. Let's pass these off the pitch.
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I’m really not sure about Lindelof and Torres as a c/b pairing.
I rate Lindy very much, I think he’s been absolutely superb, but that pairing doesn’t ‘feel’ strong/powerful/mobile enough.
If Woods is playing we need physicality in the back line.
And yes I know, to be worried about a journeyman like Woods seems overkill, but players like him (Welbeck etc) have a tendency to do exactly what they are on the pitch for.
They didn't give Jesus or Wood a sniff when he came on (Lindelof/Torres). Playing Mings or even Konsa in his current form sends the wrong message. We will struggle to play the ball into midfield if they are selected. Mings isn't as good at organising the defensive line as he once was either. I fear Emery will play him, particularly if Onana is out, to give us height defending set pieces. Understand the logic but don't agree with it.
For me Tielemans form has been patchy since returning from injury, was average at Forest a few weeks ago. I'd try Tielemans at 10 instead and get Luiz back in. Let's pass these off the pitch.
I agree with all of this.
Apart from possibly the Konsa bit, who I think is still doing broadly fine. Not to mention in a rich seam of European goalscoring form.
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I’m really not sure about Lindelof and Torres as a c/b pairing.
I rate Lindy very much, I think he’s been absolutely superb, but that pairing doesn’t ‘feel’ strong/powerful/mobile enough.
If Woods is playing we need physicality in the back line.
And yes I know, to be worried about a journeyman like Woods seems overkill, but players like him (Welbeck etc) have a tendency to do exactly what they are on the pitch for.
They didn't give Jesus or Wood a sniff when he came on (Lindelof/Torres). Playing Mings or even Konsa in his current form sends the wrong message. We will struggle to play the ball into midfield if they are selected. Mings isn't as good at organising the defensive line as he once was either. I fear Emery will play him, particularly if Onana is out, to give us height defending set pieces. Understand the logic but don't agree with it.
For me Tielemans form has been patchy since returning from injury, was average at Forest a few weeks ago. I'd try Tielemans at 10 instead and get Luiz back in. Let's pass these off the pitch.
I agree with all of this.
Apart from possibly the Konsa bit, who I think is still doing broadly fine. Not to mention in a rich seam of European goalscoring form.
Goalscoring aside, has Konsa been fine of late? Easy street games v Bologna and West Ham fine but awful v Fulham (granted still better than Torres), at fault for Sunderland's second goal and awol for their first, awful in Bologna, before that we had Chelsea, Man United, Wolves where he was hopeless too (granted in very poor team displays).
I don't think Lindelof has had a poor game at CB for us all season. Last couple of starts particularly so, Lille at home, Forest away - he was our best defender by miles. Surprised he didn't start at Fulham.
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No one tore us a new one at their place. We should have won.
They did down our right side.
Williams could have had a hat trick but only got one.
What game were you watching?
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I think he has been fine, because I don't think he was "awful" against Fulham or Bologna. I don't think he was "hopeless" during that bad run either.
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A lot depends on what the situation is with Onana for me. If he's out on Thursday it will be a struggle to get back to VP at level pegging I think. Our record when we have patched up midfield is not pretty and it makes sense when you think about how much we rely on them to progress the ball. Hopefully he's back asap.
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No one tore us a new one at their place. We should have won.
They did down our right side.
Williams could have had a hat trick but only got one.
What game were you watching?
Evidently, WBA vs Coventry.
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I’m really not sure about Lindelof and Torres as a c/b pairing.
I rate Lindy very much, I think he’s been absolutely superb, but that pairing doesn’t ‘feel’ strong/powerful/mobile enough.
If Woods is playing we need physicality in the back line.
And yes I know, to be worried about a journeyman like Woods seems overkill, but players like him (Welbeck etc) have a tendency to do exactly what they are on the pitch for.
They didn't give Jesus or Wood a sniff when he came on (Lindelof/Torres). Playing Mings or even Konsa in his current form sends the wrong message. We will struggle to play the ball into midfield if they are selected. Mings isn't as good at organising the defensive line as he once was either. I fear Emery will play him, particularly if Onana is out, to give us height defending set pieces. Understand the logic but don't agree with it.
For me Tielemans form has been patchy since returning from injury, was average at Forest a few weeks ago. I'd try Tielemans at 10 instead and get Luiz back in. Let's pass these off the pitch.
I agree with all of this.
Apart from possibly the Konsa bit, who I think is still doing broadly fine. Not to mention in a rich seam of European goalscoring form.
Goalscoring aside, has Konsa been fine of late? Easy street games v Bologna and West Ham fine but awful v Fulham (granted still better than Torres), at fault for Sunderland's second goal and awol for their first, awful in Bologna, before that we had Chelsea, Man United, Wolves where he was hopeless too (granted in very poor team displays).
I don't think Lindelof has had a poor game at CB for us all season. Last couple of starts particularly so, Lille at home, Forest away - he was our best defender by miles. Surprised he didn't start at Fulham.
Dont disagree wholeheartedly re Konsa, but a bit harsh. I think it would be a massive call for Emery to bench him for a semi final and just don’t see it happening. Im with you on Torres hopefully starting and Dougie may be being a shout.
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As a manager you spend the season getting to know what your best team is. When you reach the semi final of a European competition you play that best team. You don’t faff about trying to counter the threats of an inferior team. Let them counter us.
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Anybody know who the ref is? Hoping it’s someone who won’t be influenced by the crowd and will clamp down on anything physical!
At the very least, I'm hoping he's not Greek.
How about Michail Olivieros?
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Portuguese ref. Reffed wins over Bologna and away in at Club Brugge.
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As a manager you spend the season getting to know what your best team is. When you reach the semi final of a European competition you play that best team. You don’t faff about trying to counter the threats of an inferior team. Let them counter us.
The issue is that he is unable to play his best team, if Onana is out then that will be 2 of his best X1 not available.
That is a real problem.
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NOTTINGHAM FOREST FC (ENG) - ASTON VILLA FC (ENG)
Referee: João Pinheiro POR
Assistant Referee 1: Bruno Jesus POR
Assistant Referee 2: Luciano Maia POR
Fourth Official: Espen Eskås NOR
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins POR
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: André Narciso POR
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni ITA
UEFA Delegate: Alexander Miescher SUI
Did our Champions League win against Bologna last season and the away knockout leg against Brugge.
Don't remember any disasters, particularly in the first game.
Could be worse, Anthony Taylor is the ref for the Braga-Fribourg game.
Best ref we've had this season was for the Bologna away game, no idea at the time who he was, never noticed him. Sandro Schärer, Swiss ref.
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I like the ref who looks like Trossard.
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I like the ref who looks like Trossard.
Clement Turpin. France's best.
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I like the ref who looks like Trossard.
Sandro Schärer.
José Maria Sanchez in the second leg looked more like Pee Wee Herman.
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I like the ref who looks like Trossard.
Clement Turpin. France's best.
I take it back. Separated at birth.
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This ref a bit card happy, hope he gets on top of the niggly and dirty stuff Forest get up to.
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We have the better players & the better manager. Over two legs & with the second leg at home there should be no excuses.
Having said that, we never do it the easy way, if we do it at all.
I don't think a European ref will allow half the physical stuff Forest get away with in the Premier League. They're likely to be missing a few defensive players & I think Onana will play.
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I'll sneak this in whilst your all watching Bayern/PSG.
3-0 Forest
Neco Williams hat trick. ;D
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I've been thinking similar.
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Based on what?
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Based on what?
On a serious note, I think it will be 1-1. We will win it at Villa Park.
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Based on what?
Based on every shit-or-bust game these players have played for us.
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Based on what?
Based on every shit-or-bust game these players have played for us.
I sometimes wonder how we've manged to do so well given how bad our players are.
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Based on what?
Based on every shit-or-bust game these players have played for us.
I take it you’re not going to the semi or God forbid we get to the final.
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We've lost the last three major semi-finals we were expected to win and won the last two we were expected to lose.
Confidence is A Bad Thing.
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I don't think the players are bad, and I hope I'm wrong about them not being winners.
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I've never felt so uninspired about a big game, there's a reason, one of my closest Villa friends was married to a Forest fan and she sadly passed away two years ago, I'm godfather to their daughter, and whenever Villa played Forest the wind ups and banter was always brilliant, this is Forests biggest game since the 91 Cup final, and is a massive match, with her not about it feels like somethings missing, it all feels flat. Let's hope I muster some enthusiasm for it come Thursday, and my mate can make the most of his situation. UTFV
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As a manager you spend the season getting to know what your best team is. When you reach the semi final of a European competition you play that best team. You don’t faff about trying to counter the threats of an inferior team. Let them counter us.
The issue is that he is unable to play his best team, if Onana is out then that will be 2 of his best X1 not available.
That is a real problem.
Agreed. After Saturday I was thinking it's clearly a massive issue when we have to chuck out makeshift midfields so had a look at what that difference looks like.
Over the last two seasons when two of Tielemans, Onana and Kamara start in midfield we've won around 61% of the league games which is clearly top 4 standard.
When two of those players are missing we plummet down to a 26% win rate. We basically go from being a top 4 team to a bottom 6 standard team depending on who is available in central midfield. If he's out I'd snap your hand off for a draw and hope he's back for the VP leg.
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As a manager you spend the season getting to know what your best team is. When you reach the semi final of a European competition you play that best team. You don’t faff about trying to counter the threats of an inferior team. Let them counter us.
The issue is that he is unable to play his best team, if Onana is out then that will be 2 of his best X1 not available.
That is a real problem.
Agreed. After Saturday I was thinking it's clearly a massive issue when we have to chuck out makeshift midfields so had a look at what that difference looks like.
Over the last two seasons when two of Tielemans, Onana and Kamara start in midfield we've won around 61% of the league games which is clearly top 4 standard.
When two of those players are missing we plummet down to a 26% win rate. We basically go from being a top 4 team to a bottom 6 standard team depending on who is available in central midfield. If he's out I'd snap your hand off for a draw and hope he's back for the VP leg.
I didn’t realise it was that stark, we struggled the whole period without Kamara and Tielemens and Emery chose to carry on playing the same system without them( the results show it didn’t work).
Just hope that Onana is fit or Emery does something to compensate.
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Just thought I’d swing by and post a rare comment…
I can’t relax, focus, work or do anything really other than SHIT myself about the next week or so.
If we go full Villa and exit the cup then fail to get top five I might talk a walk into the sea.
Night night
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As a manager you spend the season getting to know what your best team is. When you reach the semi final of a European competition you play that best team. You don’t faff about trying to counter the threats of an inferior team. Let them counter us.
The issue is that he is unable to play his best team, if Onana is out then that will be 2 of his best X1 not available.
That is a real problem.
Agreed. After Saturday I was thinking it's clearly a massive issue when we have to chuck out makeshift midfields so had a look at what that difference looks like.
Over the last two seasons when two of Tielemans, Onana and Kamara start in midfield we've won around 61% of the league games which is clearly top 4 standard.
When two of those players are missing we plummet down to a 26% win rate. We basically go from being a top 4 team to a bottom 6 standard team depending on who is available in central midfield. If he's out I'd snap your hand off for a draw and hope he's back for the VP leg.
I didn’t realise it was that stark, we struggled the whole period without Kamara and Tielemens and Emery chose to carry on playing the same system without them( the results show it didn’t work).
Just hope that Onana is fit or Emery does something to compensate.
Lindelof as a 6 maybe.?
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👆Im not sure why we’d do some crazy shit like that in such an important game having not really done it at all save for the odd 10 minutes when he first joined.
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Just thought I’d swing by and post a rare comment…
I can’t relax, focus, work or do anything really other than SHIT myself about the next week or so.
If we go full Villa and exit the cup then fail to get top five I might talk a walk into the sea.
Night night
You are unnecessarily grumpy.
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Portuguese ref. Reffed wins over Bologna and away in at Club Brugge.
Great, he'll be cracking jokes with Pereira in Portuguese pre-match and a flicker of conscious bias will set-in when he awards Forest free-kicks for 50/50 duels.
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As a manager you spend the season getting to know what your best team is. When you reach the semi final of a European competition you play that best team. You don’t faff about trying to counter the threats of an inferior team. Let them counter us.
The issue is that he is unable to play his best team, if Onana is out then that will be 2 of his best X1 not available.
That is a real problem.
Agreed. After Saturday I was thinking it's clearly a massive issue when we have to chuck out makeshift midfields so had a look at what that difference looks like.
Over the last two seasons when two of Tielemans, Onana and Kamara start in midfield we've won around 61% of the league games which is clearly top 4 standard.
When two of those players are missing we plummet down to a 26% win rate. We basically go from being a top 4 team to a bottom 6 standard team depending on who is available in central midfield. If he's out I'd snap your hand off for a draw and hope he's back for the VP leg.
I didn’t realise it was that stark, we struggled the whole period without Kamara and Tielemens and Emery chose to carry on playing the same system without them( the results show it didn’t work).
Just hope that Onana is fit or Emery does something to compensate.
Lindelof as a 6 maybe.?
Yes, but I bet he won’t.
Somehow getting the best combination of
SJM Luiz Rogers Buendia Tielemens behind Watkins.
Avoiding Sancho or Bailey.
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Please Unai no Bailey it's like putting up a white flag.
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👆Im not sure why we’d do some crazy shit like that in such an important game having not really done it at all save for the odd 10 minutes when he first joined.
Not even sure McLeish would be considering some of the selections put up here, Lindelof or Cash in midfield! Even putting McGinn into the middle if Onana is out next to Luiz or Tielemans, can see the logic. But McGinn was our best player at Forest only a few weeks ago on the right. Move him inside and one of Bailey or Sancho are in. That's not good. Williams would bully the pair of them.
Create the same amount of chances against them like we did a few weeks ago and we will win comfortably.
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If Onana is out, as much as I love Bogarde for his versatility I'm not sure I'd want him starting away from home in a game like this. Hate taking McGinn from right wing as well but I'd prefer to see him next to Tielemans out of all the options. Sancho right wing and Buendia left is the way I'd go.
2nd choice would probably be Doug Luiz alongside Tielemans and keep McGinn RW.
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As do I - when you’re away you’re always likely to come under some pressure. But make no mistake we had plenty of chances to comfortably win that game. Now, if we’re equally profligate then it’s obviously going to be a problem, but in no way did Forest dominate that game.
The biggest problem is the idea that 3 shots from 20m+ 'could have been a hattrick' if a player pulls off 3-4 of those in a season it's impressive. Even the one he scored probably gets saved by Emi. That said we did let him have too much space to cut in onto his stronger foot, which seems like an odd detail for Emery to have missed given he's better coming inside than trying to go down the wing and cross it.
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I’ve been informed that Onana wasn’t injured at the weekend. He was sick. Anybody else heard this?
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Can’t see Unai deviating from his tried and tested team and formation:
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
Onana/Bogarde Tielemans
McGinn. Buendia Rogers
Watkins
The only change to that is that he might bring Mings in for Torres to combat Woods?
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We need to get back to VP no more than 1 down.
How we do that I expect will be a nervy, horrible watch.
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I’ve been informed that Onana wasn’t injured at the weekend. He was sick. Anybody else heard this?
Unai said a pain in his knee I think and rested as precaution
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We've lost a game (despite having three really good chances to put it to bed) and some are losing their heads. A bit of positivity will do some the world of good.
‘Losing their heads’ ? Fucking hell ! Are you always so fucking deliberately obtrusive ?
It’s a pre match thread. People are just voicing their thoughts and concerns.
Same here, Vs Sunderland who had nothing to play for we were comfortable and imploded, Sunderland then got battered 5:0 by Forest who have scored 9 in what 2 games, we played Fulham and we weren't weren't great. I think it's perfectly understandable that fans are a little concerned. The concerns might all come to nothing and we'll win easily, but there is reason to be a little concerned.
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Just hope we don't lose tomorrow: I'd fancy us to go through to the final (probably on pens! ::)) next week then.
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We've lost a game (despite having three really good chances to put it to bed) and some are losing their heads. A bit of positivity will do some the world of good.
‘Losing their heads’ ? Fucking hell ! Are you always so fucking deliberately obtrusive ?
It’s a pre match thread. People are just voicing their thoughts and concerns.
Same here, Vs Sunderland who had nothing to play for we were comfortable and imploded, Sunderland then got battered 5:0 by Forest who have scored 9 in what 2 games, we played Fulham and we weren't weren't great. I think it's perfectly understandable that fans are a little concerned. The concerns might all come to nothing and we'll win easily, but there is reason to be a little concerned.
Did you watch the Sunderland Forest game?
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At least we have 'two bites at the cherry' in qualifying for the Champions League. Could be worth approx 70-80 million quid to us.
Forest have one bite at qualifying and are also battling to survive relegation. The next month could be worth approx 200-300 million quid to them.
They are under more pressure than us and will fight to the last drop. Their owner will demand it. Match their intensity and over the two legs our extra quality will shine through.
Not expecting a PSG/Bayern type match. Be more more like the Kilkenny Cats.
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I’ve been informed that Onana wasn’t injured at the weekend. He was sick. Anybody else heard this?
Unai said a pain in his knee I think and rested as precaution
He’s in training today according to John Townley, and they’re seeing how he goes.
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Since their new manager took over they've been better than we have in that period. Obviously we've had injury problems, I'm sure they probably have too.
They're where they are because of bizarre managerial appointments, lurching from Nuno to Ange to Dyche. They're better than their league position suggests so I can see why people are nervous about it, it wouldn't be a shock to me if they win the first leg.
Could be 3-1, could be 0-1, neither scoreline would surprise me tbh, given our recent semi final dissapointments, and overall lack of balls in the last 30 years.
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Forest were in a semi final last season and lost. Given how us working on fumes 2 years ago is apparently relevant, I'm at a loss as to why that one isn't. Or their endless play off battering by the likes of Stoke etc.
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Forest seemed to have stumbled on a new formation having lost Hudson - Odoi and it seems to have benefited them going forward.
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Their win at Sunderland was nothing to do with formations. People clearly didn't watch that first half. A half where after Jesus wins a header st the back post for the own goal, Sunderland decided that it was better to just stop marking him all together. And to be even more helpful, have their keeper pass the ball to Wood.
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Unai on Forest game, team news:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2026/april/29/prematch-team-news-for-forest-first-leg/
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Sounding like Murillo out, but Jair may be available. Shame, as I was hoping Morato would play.
Sangare also in contention for them.
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Their win at Sunderland was nothing to do with formations. People clearly didn't watch that first half. A half where after Jesus wins a header st the back post for the own goal, Sunderland decided that it was better to just stop marking him all together. And to be even more helpful, have their keeper pass the ball to Wood.
People will call it cope, but it was probably one of the worst defensive displays I've seen from a PL side for some time. Amateur hour stuff at times.
Clearly had their ears chewed off at half time as they looked a lot more composed in the second.
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A pity they didn't defend like that against us a few days prior, we might have scored 8 instead of 4.
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A pity they didn't defend like that against us a few days prior, we might have scored 8 instead of 4.
Exactly, only for our keystone cops stuff at the end we had that game won easily at 3-1. Anyway it's Forest we are playing not Sunderland and we have already outplayed Forest in the two PL games this season. They do have dangerous players but so do we.
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Sounding like Murillo out, but Jair may be available. Shame, as I was hoping Morato would play.
Sangare also in contention for them.
Moratos been that poor this season that his starting would have given us at least an additional 10% of winning...
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I’m not one for “media are against us” stuff, but the contrast in Nick Mashiter’s views of Villa and Forest on the BBC are quite stark. Even the tone, anyone would think we’re the struggling team.
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“Villa are chasing a first major trophy in 30 years but, as ever, it is not straightforward.
Saturday's lacklustre defeat at Fulham has allowed doubts to creep in again, despite their strong grip on a top-five place.
They have two routes to the Champions League - via the Premier League or by winning the Europa League - and while they are favourites to lift the trophy in Istanbul, it is typical of Villa that they still have obstacles to overcome.
They have not won away from home in the league since February - drawing at Forest earlier this month - although they were six games unbeaten heading into their match at Craven Cottage.
It was an off day in west London, with Ollie Watkins and Tammy Abraham missing good chances, while Amadou Onana was sidelined with a knee injury.
Boss Unai Emery has urged Villa to push for third - a position he has not yet achieved with the club - but with Forest second in the Premier League form table, even the most optimistic Villa fan will feel nervous.“
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“Forest are one of the form teams in the Premier League. They are second in the form table over the last six games, behind Brighton, having scored nine goals in their last two matches.
There is a growing belief they will secure their top-flight status for next season, sitting five points above the relegation zone with four games remaining.
Boss Vitor Pereira said earlier this month, when discussing the Premier League, that success can mean different things - suggesting that staying in the division would represent success after a season of struggle and four different managers.
Yet they could still end the campaign with a Europa League crown - something that was a target at the start - if they overcome Aston Villa in the semi-finals.
There is no fear from a Forest squad that has adapted well to Pereira's methods since his arrival in February, with the former Wolves manager making an impact after replacing Sean Dyche.
Given their current form, some may see Forest as favourites for the home leg, and it will be an opportunity for them to take something into the return fixture at Villa Park next week.”
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Thats fairly reflective of some of the conversations on here!
Agree its a bit one eyed
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Well no I agree there has been some negative takes (I’d argue disproportionately) on here. But the variance in the tone from Mashiter is also disproportionate - Forest have had an uptick, but before their last two games they’ve massively struggled to score.
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I don't know why but I've got a sneaky feeling he will start Bailey tomorrow.
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I don't know why but I've got a sneaky feeling he will start Bailey tomorrow.
I am sure that will cheer everyone up.
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Their bloke:
"Tomorrow will be the Semi Final of the Europa League, Chelsea is our Champions League."
I'm sure they'll still be up for it, but it's pretty clear which game is more important to them.
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Their bloke:
"Tomorrow will be the Semi Final of the Europa League, Chelsea is our Champions League."
I'm sure they'll still be up for it, but it's pretty clear which game is more important to them.
Not with the couple of Forest fans I speak to at work.
And remember Unai was making similar noises about Forest last week.
Most of these press conferences are just guff!
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I’ve been informed that Onana wasn’t injured at the weekend. He was sick. Anybody else heard this?
Unai said a pain in his knee I think and rested as precaution
That's consistent with the sickness rumour as the last time I threw up I slipped and hurt my knee.
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Most of these press conferences are just guff!
This. The Villa ones have the same dipsticks, asking the same inane questions and Unai just repeats himself every week.
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I don't know why but I've got a sneaky feeling he will start Bailey tomorrow.
We will if we want to give Forest a fair chance.
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Their bloke:
"Tomorrow will be the Semi Final of the Europa League, Chelsea is our Champions League."
I'm sure they'll still be up for it, but it's pretty clear which game is more important to them.
Or, he is trying to take the pressure off the players tomorrow.
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I’m not one for “media are against us” stuff, but the contrast in Nick Mashiter’s views of Villa and Forest on the BBC are quite stark. Even the tone, anyone would think we’re the struggling team.
There's a potentially thrilling article on there about which Man United youngsters might have a good pre-season.
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If they and others want to see them as favourites that's fine by me.
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I’m not one for “media are against us” stuff, but the contrast in Nick Mashiter’s views of Villa and Forest on the BBC are quite stark. Even the tone, anyone would think we’re the struggling team.
There's a potentially thrilling article on there about which Man United youngsters might have a good pre-season.
Simon Stone has to earn his six-figure salary and defined benefit pension package somehow.
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The ref will be important in these fixtures. Their main thing is ability to mix it up with physical duels and body on the line defending. In the PL, any breaking of the lines sees their midfield hauling opposition players over, until somebody is booked (usually after about 6 goes in the PL). Given breaking the lines is one of our main things, hopefully the yellows come out sooner. We're at our best when we're aggressive in midfield in how we press and the parts of the pitch we do this in - this is why SJM is so very important to how we play because he's one of the best at it along with shielding and getting turned on the ball under pressure.
If SJM is at it and the ref doesn't allow Forest to wrestle too much, I'm pretty confident we'll have the quality to beat them tomorrow.
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If they and others want to see them as favourites that's fine by me.
After last 2 years Semifinalitus I'd happily be underdogs
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Hope the lads managed the 17 minute flight to East Midlands OK and are in bed, good and early tonight.
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Forest were in a semi final last season and lost. Given how us working on fumes 2 years ago is apparently relevant, I'm at a loss as to why that one isn't. Or their endless play off battering by the likes of Stoke etc.
More likely the last 30 years of us failing when getting close. I'd hazard a guess that of teams who've won nothing for 30 years, we've reached the most semi finals and finals combined. Hardly a bizarre take to think this might be another one for the list.
I think we'll win the tie, for what it's worth, but I've thought that a few times over the years. I think people are traumatised!
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As I just said during my press conference, there's a real feeling of now or never about this one. The team's getting older, who knows which of them will be here this time next year and they deserve something tangible to look back on. Then there's our biggest advantage - we've got Unai Emery.
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I can't remember many semi-finals where we've been comfortable especially when we're favourites. Only the Liverpool game stands out where we've unexpectedly over performed. Almost every other time we've been shit & gone out or scrapped through.
I don't think this one will be any different, I just hope we don't surrender the early initiative & an early goal to Forest.
At the other end we'll need to be a lot more clinical than we've been.
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It’s such an 80s European tie, I’m going to do shit loads of glue before the game.
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As I just said during my press conference, there's a real feeling of now or never about this one. The team's getting older, who knows which of them will be here this time next year and they deserve something tangible to look back on. Then there's our biggest advantage - we've got Unai Emery.
Agree entirely, and they have the experience of suffering in semi-finals. They need to use it to their advantage.
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Unai has progressed in all 5 previous Europa league semi finals he’s contested. If we can’t do it with this fella we never will.
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He'd won all his games against Fulham before Saturday.
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Unai has progressed in all 5 previous Europa league semi finals he’s contested. If we can’t do it with this fella we never will.
Option B seems most likely to me.
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Does it? Why? I get we might not win, but I’m puzzled why a number of people seem to have pretty much lost hope.
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I haven't given up hope. I'm just preparing myself for a traditional bottle job.
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I’m so nervous about this game I’m considering not watching.
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Last time I felt confident before a game was the League Cup final against Dirty Leeds and that was only because I was pissed.
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We have 30 years of either:
1. Not getting anywhere near success, or
2. Shitting the bed at the last significant hurdle. You don't need me to list these examples.
For me, getting drawn against Forest in the semi final is way, way worse than getting drawn against some random Europeans, even decent random Europeans, because this is exactly the sort of circumstance in which we fuck it up.
On paper, we should piss this, but look at the circumstances, the fact that we should piss this makes me think that we will not.
I'd rather play a decent side from a different league than a shit one from an hour's drive away.
I am genuinely thinking of not watching the match. I'm going to be shaking like a shitting puppy the entire 90 minutes.
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^^All this.
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You'll all be watching/listening/getting text alerts: don't come that one! :D
I'd settle for Arsenal's away 1-1 draw tomorrow!
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I’m so nervous about this game I’m considering not watching.
I'm really struggling to get excited about this game, mainly because its Forest, playing Forest is like banging your head against a brick wall for ninety minutes hoping it will come good.
Forest, one of those teams.
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We have 30 years of either:
1. Not getting anywhere near success, or
2. Shitting the bed at the last significant hurdle. You don't need me to list these examples.
For me, getting drawn against Forest in the semi final is way, way worse than getting drawn against some random Europeans, even decent random Europeans, because this is exactly the sort of circumstance in which we fuck it up.
On paper, we should piss this, but look at the circumstances, the fact that we should piss this makes me think that we will not.
I'd rather play a decent side from a different league than a shit one from an hour's drive away.
I am genuinely thinking of not watching the match. I'm going to be shaking like a shitting puppy the entire 90 minutes.
Every syllable, especially the bit in bold. It's so what it is.
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We have 30 years of either:
1. Not getting anywhere near success, or
2. Shitting the bed at the last significant hurdle. You don't need me to list these examples.
For me, getting drawn against Forest in the semi final is way, way worse than getting drawn against some random Europeans, even decent random Europeans, because this is exactly the sort of circumstance in which we fuck it up.
I think the correct mentality is that the football gods could so easily have fixed it for us to be about to play a two-legged semi final against Crystal Palace and chose for that not to be.
So there's obviously a celestial reason for that, and it involves them wanting to watch us knock Nottingham Forest's bottoms back and forth over the Trent for ninety minutes before a celebratory party at Villa Park next week.
No other possible explanation.
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No, they're just finding a new way to fuck us over.
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Yeah, the gods care not a jot for justice. Angry, vengeful, mumpy cnuts, the gods, as a general rule. With all due respect.
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We have 30 years of either:
1. Not getting anywhere near success, or
2. Shitting the bed at the last significant hurdle. You don't need me to list these examples.
For me, getting drawn against Forest in the semi final is way, way worse than getting drawn against some random Europeans, even decent random Europeans, because this is exactly the sort of circumstance in which we fuck it up.
On paper, we should piss this, but look at the circumstances, the fact that we should piss this makes me think that we will not.
It’s just easier to shrug off a defeat to a foreign team. This fixture however is far more intimate, against another prem side we have outperformed all season. Losing at this stage of the competition against a demonstrably inferior team would be humiliating and would be the sad denouement of a team that has given us so much.
I’m absolutely shitting myself.
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The thing that's giving me the fear is imagining Forest, who have done nothing of note since they sold Stan Collymore, winning another trophy before us. They might want to win it. We need to win it. Getting a trophy - any competitive trophy - back to Villa Park sheds that weight of history.
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Yeah, the gods care not a jot for justice. Angry, vengeful, mumpy cnuts, the gods, as a general rule. With all due respect.
Is this the old Gods or the new
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Yeah, the gods care not a jot for justice. Angry, vengeful, mumpy cnuts, the gods, as a general rule. With all due respect.
Is this the old Gods or the new
Mumpy they may be, but these gods aren't so vain that they insist on capital letters being used about them all over the place. And if He has a problem with that, He can take it up with me Himself.
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If I was a neutral, I'd rather play Notts Forest than Aston Villa in a semi final.
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We're the better side and they're in better form. Russian roulette.
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If Bogarde starts this game, I fear for us.
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We’ll absolutely piss it.
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We’ll absolutely piss it.
Common sense at last.
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From the Graunia (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/apr/29/aston-villa-nottingham-forest-all-english-europa-league-semi-final-preview)d this morning.
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We shall defeat them.
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From the Graunia (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/apr/29/aston-villa-nottingham-forest-all-english-europa-league-semi-final-preview)d this morning.
Have read this “ It is the first top-flight meeting between the teams this millennium” at least a dozen times and I think there’s a chance I might be being stupid, but, it isn’t is it?
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Nick Mashiters take on it for BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckgegjz4xd0o
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Should be a cracker of a game tonight. Hoping for a really positive team selection from Emery and proactive substitutions when required.
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Nick Mashiters take on it for BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckgegjz4xd0o
Do you think this guy has some money on Forest?
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From the Graunia (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/apr/29/aston-villa-nottingham-forest-all-english-europa-league-semi-final-preview)d this morning.
Have read this “ It is the first top-flight meeting between the teams this millennium” at least a dozen times and I think there’s a chance I might be being stupid, but, it isn’t is it?
Keep reading rather than going back to the start
It is the first top-flight meeting between the teams this millennium; however, that goes some way to telling the story of these sides, particularly Villa’s stealth. It was three and a half years ago, a couple of weeks before Unai Emery took the reins at Villa...
Oddly punctuated, but it does make sense.
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The mark of a good journalist is to disguise your prejudice. It's a dying art....
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Nick Mashiters take on it for BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckgegjz4xd0o
Do you think this guy has some money on Forest?
Another 'local' reporter who doesn't like Villa. Did he mention Martinez leaving?
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If Watkins and Rogers have their shooting boots on, unlike the last time we were there, we should be okay..... Doesn't stop me absolutely shitting it though!
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Ok here’s a tasty treble for you punters. Forest, Brighton and Spurs all to win. 20/1. Imagine what a shit week that would be. Get your emotional hedges in now.
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I'm strangely calm and confident. Perhaps this will change once the game gets closer, but at the moment there is a zen-like vibe in the Rigadon household.
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I am literally shitting my monks
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Just fucking draw. Draw and we'll do it at home.
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I'm strangely calm and confident. Perhaps this will change once the game gets closer, but at the moment there is a zen-like vibe in the Rigadon household.
Same. I think it's the two-legged thing, as unless we end up on the end of a hammering that I don't think will happen, then we go back to VP knowing what we need to do.
Unless we have a Bologna-style first leg lead though, I imagine the panic will set in next week.
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I've been nervous all week but not this morning although that is influenced by a catastrophic hangover.
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Nick Mashiters take on it for BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckgegjz4xd0o
Do you think this guy has some money on Forest?
Another 'local' reporter who doesn't like Villa. Did he mention Martinez leaving?
Ex Express and Star. Probably a bitter, relegation haunted Dingle.
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Nick Mashiters take on it for BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckgegjz4xd0o
Do you think this guy has some money on Forest?
Another 'local' reporter who doesn't like Villa. Did he mention Martinez leaving?
Ex Express and Star. Probably a bitter, relegation haunted Dingle.
Yeah that would explain it, the tone put me in mind of the 'Sally from Coronation Street' haired Bill Howell.
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Time we turned up in one of these games. If we do we’ll win.
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Time we turned up in one of these games. If we do we’ll win.
Yep, third semi-final in three seasons and didn't show up at all in the previous two. Not showing up when it really matters is probably a justified criticism that can be levelled at this group of players over the past couple of seasons, but hopefully they can deliver over the next four games.
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I have it on good authority that some are already on light refreshments in the Troca.
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I would like to think, we'll put the tie to bed tonight, sadly I think there's more a chance the tie will end up going to extra time or dare I say pens, which would not be great for my old ticker.
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Time we turned up in one of these games. If we do we’ll win.
Yep, third semi-final in three seasons and didn't show up at all in the previous two. Not showing up when it really matters is probably a justified criticism that can be levelled at this group of players over the past couple of seasons, but hopefully they can deliver over the next four games.
I can understand Olympiakos. We were completely flat lining and the result at the Emirates was a minor miracle, as was Duran against Liverpool. Palace was all us though. We were flying, practically full strength, and to serve that up wasn't good enough.
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I would like to think, we'll put the tie to bed tonight, sadly I think there's more a chance the tie will end up going to extra time or dare I say pens, which would not be great for my old ticker.
Fuck that. I'd back Martinez all day, but fuck that.
West Brom 🤢🤢🤢
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Another small but important point to make regarding the game the other week that we should have won comfortably is that we lost Martinez just before kick off, so we'll be already stronger than we were then.
(Providing he doesn't repeat the trick)
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If I work on the basis that it is going to be at least 31 years then I am at peace with myself and anything above that is a bonus.
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I just hope that there's no 'Other Games' thread started on SHA this evening.
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I just hope that there's no 'Other Games' thread started on SHA this evening.
Don't count on that! ;)
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I just hope that there's no 'Other Games' thread started on SHA this evening.
Don't count on that! ;)
They only tend to comment on matches we lose.
If Villa win, they go down the "I don't wanna talk about it" route.
So fingers crossed, the match is ignored on there tonight.
As regards the match, I'd take a draw back to VP every day of the week.
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8+ hours to kick off and I already feel like I’m sat in a dentist waiting room. Watching it tonight is going to be horrible.
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It's going to be Bolton 2004 all over again. We're going to be 3-0 down after 15 minutes. We shouldn't bother turning up. We should just never play football again so I don't have to be nervous about things. I'm going for a walk.
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Hopefully it's Forests turn to shit the bed at the last hurdle.
It's ours to lose & over two legs, there's no excuses. I think Ollie's words yesterday tells us the players know it's time to deliver & that it's probably the last chance for some.
It's going to be fucking epic. UTV
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Get through this tie and we will be red hot favourites for the final. We have flunked similar situations in the past but time for these warriors to deliver tonight. We were running on empty the time of the Olympiacos debacle, no such excuses this time. Confident our players will do it and finish the job at Villa Park.
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Hopefully it's Forests turn to shit the bed at the last hurdle.
It's ours to lose & over two legs, there's no excuses. I think Ollie's words yesterday tells us the players know it's time to deliver & that it's probably the last chance for some.
It's going to be fucking epic. UTV
Speaking words of wisdom
Score Ollie
Score Ollie
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Time we turned up in one of these games. If we do we’ll win.
Yep, third semi-final in three seasons and didn't show up at all in the previous two. Not showing up when it really matters is probably a justified criticism that can be levelled at this group of players over the past couple of seasons, but hopefully they can deliver over the next four games.
I can understand Olympiakos. We were completely flat lining and the result at the Emirates was a minor miracle, as was Duran against Liverpool. Palace was all us though. We were flying, practically full strength, and to serve that up wasn't good enough.
It was Palace's year.
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Very calm.
No miracles required, this is where this team finally comes of age. It's ours.
UTV
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Most pre-match threads are between 5-8 pages. The fact that this one is 20 already shows you the magnitude of this game.
As others have said, it's time for them to deliver - and I include Unai in that. He got it wrong on Saturday IMO, he rarely messes up twice in a row. Solid performance tonight pls, ride out the storm and get them back to Villa Park.
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Respectfully, if Onana cannot go tonight I sincerely hope Emery doesn’t play Bogarde in his place. It needs be Luiz or SJM more centrally, as unfortunately it can’t be Barkley.
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Unless injured - Pau has to play over Mings as he slows the play down too much
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Respectfully, if Onana cannot go tonight I sincerely hope Emery doesn’t play Bogarde in his place. It needs be Luiz or SJM more centrally, as unfortunately it can’t be Barkley.
Barkley with Tielemans would be ran all over in a two. So he isn't a loss in that sense, would probably come off the bench. Luiz is more athletic than Barkley, not difficult, but again Luiz/Tielemans lack legs in midfield. Bogarde blew his chance. McGinn into midfield and Sancho/Bailey onto right for Williams to bully them...again bit of a nightmare. Luiz/Tielemans is the least worse option if Onana is out for me. If Onana is out, Id push Tielemans forward and still bring in Luiz anyway. Luiz has a point to prove and has done well off bench lately against Forest and Fulham. Seems to have slipped out of favour though.
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Not panicking on the team selection. If anyone could have hit the target on Saturday, we'd have got a draw at least and that was playing terribly. Luiz and Tielemans isn't going to happen. Only way Luiz plays is instead of Buendia and pushing Tielemans forward.
However, I am panicking about the game. I really really don't want to lose to these
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We should win. We might not.
Emery will try and keep it tight, they will go for it, which is what gives us the opportunity. Emery just doesn't go gung-ho in a first leg.
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I just want to see us win a trophy, is that too much to ask for??
Apparently it is, based on my Villa going life so far.
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I predict a tight game of few chances with the most likely outcome a share of the spoils.
Leaving us with another week of butt clenching tension to sit through, until we vaporise them at VP in the return leg.
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Stop being nervy and panicking folks and enjoy the ride.
Yes, it's a big game where we are now, but you will look back and smile. Over the next 4 or 5 seasons we will be having much bigger games. Get used to it.
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Vaporise or Funeral, just do 'em!
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We should win. We might not.
Emery will try and keep it tight, they will go for it, which is what gives us the opportunity. Emery just doesn't go gung-ho in a first leg.
Not gung-ho, but we should go at them, if we sit back and try to slow it down, they will pick us off, especially the first 20mins. Unai has been here many times….
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Has anyone done any work today?
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Has anyone done any work today?
Yes. Mowed the grass, sorry weed, in the front garden and now off to catch my train.
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Has anyone done any work today?
Not today nor the rest of the week tbh.
I also no longer have fingernails.
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We should win. We might not.
Emery will try and keep it tight, they will go for it, which is what gives us the opportunity. Emery just doesn't go gung-ho in a first leg.
Not gung-ho, but we should go at them, if we sit back and try to slow it down, they will pick us off, especially the first 20mins. Unai has been here many times….
Back to the Balagué book, and I've just read the bit about the Palace game. Seems Villa's game plan was to keep the ball, and wait for the opportunity for Palace's well-organised tactics to break open. But when they didn't, we got sluggish and nervous and tried risky passes, which was when they broke with their pace. Are Forest the same as Palace?
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Has anyone done any work today?
I did some painting on a new job for a couple of hours this morning, but I wouldn’t say I was my usual focused self due to the incoming challenge.
I'll probably be like this until next Friday.
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Not today nor the rest of the week tbh.
I also no longer have fingernails.
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Our recent unsuccessful SF games in the FA Cup and Conference, combined with our recent loss and general form compared to their recent results adds such an edge to tonight. Play as we can we are better than them. We have proven that over the season. But so much can come down to confidence and momentum. We have be at our best and simply have to take our chances. We should won there last time out in the league. We now have two chances to get the job done. Go out with the right attitute and we will be in Istanbul next month.
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I've done three hours of work and three hours scrolling. Marginally preferred the work.
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Has anyone done any work today?
Just finished power washing the driveway. It was a bit stop start, easy in patches but got bogged down with some troublesome weeds. Then the mop head stopped spinning and I had to get the physio to have a look, It worked again for a bit then seized at which point I replaced it with an untried head. Wasn’t great but managed to get it finished though.
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Not today nor the rest of the week tbh.
I also no longer have fingernails.
😂😂😂
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Has anyone done any work today?
Nope
Although i appreciate others nervousness - this is what we watch the game for. Much rather have a huge game with jepordy on it than a dead rubber nothing game.
I agree with most - just please can the real Villa turn up
The old adage: Form is temporary, class is permanent
There is a reason why they are where they are in the league - we should of won this game easily if Morgan and Ollie had their boots on ther right feet
Martinez
Cash Konsa Pau Digne
Onana / McGinn Tielemans
McGinn / Sancho Buendia Rogers
Watkins
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Is it me or are the press largely ignoring this fixture? Go to bbc home page in the football and there is diddly squat. If Chelsea were playing a Greek second division team who’s fluked some European qualification via a cup win or something, we’d have full preview and analysis.
Anyway I’m officially cacking it.
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Don’t start Mings & Sancho
Don’t f**king lose.
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Has anyone done any work today?
Sadly I’ve worked my sack off today. But tomorrow is now clear, so I can enjoy a slab of cans and watch us NOT fuck this up.
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We really need Onana fit to break up the play when they have the ball.
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Has anyone done any work today?
Yes. My Everton colleague who for some reason 'hates Villa', bade farewell with the comment "I hope you lose"
Nice. Still, my long weekend starts now and I'm off for several libations.
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Don’t start Mings & Sancho
Don’t f**king lose.
I thought that and agree with your take if it had been one of their favourites. BBC no different from any of the media now, just want clicks.
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We should win. We might not.
Emery will try and keep it tight, they will go for it, which is what gives us the opportunity. Emery just doesn't go gung-ho in a first leg.
Not gung-ho, but we should go at them, if we sit back and try to slow it down, they will pick us off, especially the first 20mins. Unai has been here many times….
Back to the Balagué book, and I've just read the bit about the Palace game. Seems Villa's game plan was to keep the ball, and wait for the opportunity for Palace's well-organised tactics to break open. But when they didn't, we got sluggish and nervous and tried risky passes, which was when they broke with their pace. Are Forest the same as Palace?
Forest will press us aggressively man for man in midfield, like Fulham did to us and like Forest did to Sunderland. I hope we've been working on playing more direct.
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Is it me or are the press largely ignoring this fixture? Go to bbc home page in the football and there is diddly squat. If Chelsea were playing a Greek second division team who’s fluked some European qualification via a cup win or something, we’d have full preview and analysis.
Anyway I’m officially cacking it.
The guardian football page stats with a CL round up, them moves onto Man Utd transfer rumours, Spurs women, etc etc. The first mention of the British side playing a European semi final is about 15 stories down the page.
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Maybe it's just nerves but I've got a bad feeling about tonight. BBC do have an article, it's all positive about the changes Pereira has made to enable Forest then reels off a load of stats which suggest we're overachieving and not much better than them on any metric anyway. It didn't help.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckgegjz4xd0o
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Maybe it's just nerves but I've got a bad feeling about tonight. BBC do have an article, it's all positive about the changes Pereira has made to enable Forest then reels off a load of stats which suggest we're overachieving and not much better than them on any metric anyway. It didn't help.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckgegjz4xd0o
We just need to hold them tonight, Villa Park will be a different beast.
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It's our time.
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It's our time.
Everything feels off. I wish I had your confidence.
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Unai’s achilles heel has been games where passion and emotion takes over. Derbies and cup matches. We can’t be passive tonight, if we are we’ll be beat.
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All I know is under Unai, we have had more nervy big matches since he was here than last 10yrs before. They don't get easier, but better this than the alternative.
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Unai’s achilles heel has been games where passion and emotion takes over. Derbies and cup matches. We can’t be passive tonight, if we are we’ll be beat.
This. Lets boss them. The thing that would bring my nervousness closer to panic mode would be a pre match message about Martinez "feeling back pain in the warm up ...".
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Feeling nicely confident and relaxed.
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Feeling nicely confident and relaxed.
Seconded. Though that may be 4 pints of IPA talking.
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Please don’t start Bailey and/ or Sancho and please don’t bring them on as subs
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Tanswell reporting that Onana is part of the travelling party. Suggests that he'd be on the bench at least, otherwise you'd just let him rest.
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Feeling nicely confident and relaxed.
For a win or a draw?
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Tanswell now reporting that Onana starts
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Martinez; Cash, Konsa, Pau, Digne; Onana, Tielemans; McGinn, Rogers, Buendia; Watkins
Happy with that
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Martinez; Cash, Konsa, Pau, Digne; Onana, Tielemans; McGinn, Rogers, Buendia; Watkins
Happy with that
Yeah, that will do.
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Feeling nicely confident and relaxed.
It's so annoying that we stress and fret so much about the odd semi final here and there, yet the likes of Chelsea and ManUre (during their recent shit period) just seem to stumble into finals and win trophies by accident almost.
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Onana starts.
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Feeling nicely confident and relaxed.
It's so annoying that we stress and fret so much about the odd semi final here and there, yet the likes of Chelsea and ManUre (during their recent shit period) just seem to stumble into finals and win trophies by accident almost.
Thing is we are not to be compared to those teams.
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Onana starts.
Get in.
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Shitting myself already.
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Feeling nicely confident and relaxed.
It's so annoying that we stress and fret so much about the odd semi final here and there, yet the likes of Chelsea and ManUre (during their recent shit period) just seem to stumble into finals and win trophies by accident almost.
Thing is we are not to be compared to those teams.
In the last three years we are, yet they still win trophies.
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Feeling nicely confident and relaxed.
It's so annoying that we stress and fret so much about the odd semi final here and there, yet the likes of Chelsea and ManUre (during their recent shit period) just seem to stumble into finals and win trophies by accident almost.
Thing is we are not to be compared to those teams.
In the last three years we are, yet they still win trophies.
I see, might be some misunderstanding here down to my not so good English. My intention was to say something in the direction of that we are a musch more important team than those other two. If that make sense.