Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on April 17, 2026, 08:44:04 AM
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Sun 19th, 2pm ko.
3-1
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3-1 Villa but Sunderland are no mugs
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2-0.
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A win would be huge. We're almost there 8)
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2.1 to us.
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No game for 6 days after this one. Begin with same starting eleven as they deserve it.
Villa 2 Sunderland 0
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My first game of the season so we better win and I think we will but it will be close. 2 1, Watkins and Rogers.
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3-1 Villa but Sunderland are no mugs
They got a pretty fortunate result at home versus a very poor Spurs side last time out, and have generally been in a rut of poor form that would probably have had them alongside Burnley had it happened earlier in the season.
We should be murdering them and I think we will. It's our time.
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3-1 Villa but Sunderland are no mugs
They got a pretty fortunate result at home versus a very poor Spurs side last time out, and have generally been in a rut of poor form that would probably have had them alongside Burnley had it happened earlier in the season.
We should be murdering them and I think we will. It's our time.
They beat Newcastle and Leeds away in March, their form is not too bad. We should have enough to beat them but won't be easy.
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They beat Newcastle and Leeds away in March, their form is not too bad. We should have enough to beat them but won't be easy.
Yes you're right; on closer inspection, it's been their home form that has been woeful, their away form having been pretty decent.
Still, we should be murdering them!
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Come on Villa, let's get the points against these and Fulham and wrap the top four chase up.
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They beat Newcastle and Leeds away in March, their form is not too bad. We should have enough to beat them but won't be easy.
Yes you're right; on closer inspection, it's been their home form that has been woeful, their away form having been pretty decent.
Still, we should be murdering them!
Which is quite impressive, given they didn't lose a home game until the middle of February.
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Anybody else going to the fans forum beforehand?
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They’re decent and physical. We need to play well.
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Brobbey could easily have been sent off against Spurs. Wonder if we'll need the muscle of Mings or Lindelof to handle him.
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I’d be keeping Pau firmly in place.
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I’d be keeping Pau firmly in place.
Yup. Also given the narrative of the last week or so, I'd be very surprised if Brobbey is given much leeway. Reckon the referee will book him the very first chance he gets.
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Really need a win I'm going for a 2-1 Villa win.
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We have struggled against park the bus tactics, which I expect them to employ. But I have a feeling we will utterly smash this lot on Sunday.
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They should hopefully be on the beach after their cup final victory v Newcastle.
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They should hopefully be on the beach after their cup final victory v Newcastle.
Well they weren’t on the beach in the game that followed so it’s seems unlikely.
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They should hopefully be on the beach after their cup final victory v Newcastle.
Well they weren’t on the beach in the game that followed so it’s seems unlikely.
I don’t think ‘on the beach’ is a thing these days until maybe week 38.
My dream is we qualify for CL, win the Europa and then are completely on the beach for the last game which stops Arsenal winning the league and is another thing for them to bang on about forever (I do realise we’d lose at City beach or no beach).
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They can still get Europe, as half the league seems to be in with a shout with all the possible extra places. And their manager seems a very professional sort. They'll have a gameplan to spoil our play and attack us when possible.
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They should hopefully be on the beach after their cup final victory v Newcastle.
No chance, they still have Europe to go for, plus they'd love to finish above Newcastle.
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Well I’ve got to say I’m very disappointed at their work ethic and professionalism.
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The only sides with nothing to play for are Burnley (realistically) and Wolves.
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This is much tougher than last night and it was always going to be but the nature of that stinking victory has cemented the feelgood factor and means we still have 2 routes to the CL.
Sunday games are generally flat but I don't feel that it will be the case this week, we are approaching the pinch point and each game feels vital. I'm glad that Sunderland will stay up, anything that punctures the media's tiresome Toon myths and legends is OK by me, but they will be a tough nut to crack. Organised, disciplined and difficult to break down so patience is the order of the day but we'll prevail.
2-1
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Pau didn't seem to have many issues keeping Brobbey in his pocket when we battered Ajax a couple of years back so I'm not sure I'd be too worried about him.
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I think it will be tough, but we are in the groove again, West Ham and the two Bologna games were excellent and I thought we played well enough against a battling Forest.
2-0 us (Watkins, Rogers)
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Pau
Maatsen
Onana
Tirlemans
McGinn
Watkins
Rogers
Sancho
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I think it will be tough, but we ate in the groove again, West Ham and the two Bologna games were excellent and I thought we played well enough against a battling Forest.
2-0 us (Watkins, Rogers)
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Pau
Maatsen
Onana
Tirlemans
McGinn
Watkins
Rogers
Sancho
We do seem to have got our hunger back.
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Last time Sunderland beat us at VP their side included Elmo, Bardsley (the scorer) and Bent.
Last time they won at VP with a scoreline other than 1-0 we were European Champions. They've had two 1-0 wins since then.
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"Butterfingers, Butterfingers in goal, he's by far the worstest keeper the world has ever seen".
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Villa win, I'll go with 3-1*.
*6-1, if Legion's not in attendance.
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3-0
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Last time Sunderland beat us at VP their side included Elmo, Bardsley (the scorer) and Bent.
Last time they won at VP with a scoreline other than 1-0 we were European Champions. They've had two 1-0 wins since then.
I think we tend to be more aware of the bogey grounds we visit rather more than the reverse where were the venue the opposition dreads coming to.
Sunderland as you point out have a poor record at Villa Park, we’re one of their bogey teams/grounds.
Long may that continue, another 4-0 home win will do nicely.
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Our record against Sunderland.
Played - 185
Won - 83
Draw - 47
Lost - 55
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From memory I think we only have losing records against 13 or so teams (*20 or more games played) There’s the obvious 5-6 teams then a few more surprising ones.
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IIRC sodding Mansfield are one of them.
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Although we haven't played them 20 times!
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I stand to be corrected but think this is the dirty dozen + 1.
Manchester United
Manchester City
Chelsea
Arsenal
Spurs
Newcastle
Liverpool
Luton Town
Leicester City
West Ham
QPR
Wimbledon
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What, no Palace?
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What, no Palace?
Nope, we have 23 wins to 19 defeats. We beat them regularly through the ‘70’s and ‘80’s.
Our recent record is of course poor, no wins in the last 7.
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IIRC sodding Mansfield are one of them.
Sodding Mansfield sounds like a village in the Cotswolds.
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Derby and Sunderland are teams we have a great record against.
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IIRC sodding Mansfield are one of them.
Ah Mansfield. Played four lost three drawn one! However the draw was the last time we played them and the result that took us up (Geoff Vowden RIP) so we're on an upwards trajectory with them at least!
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I stand to be corrected but think this is the dirty dozen + 1.
Manchester United
Manchester City
Chelsea
Arsenal
Spurs
Newcastle
Liverpool
Luton Town
Leicester City
West Ham
QPR
Wimbledon
Also Watford.
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Yes, Watford, thank you.
The most annoying one for me is Leicester, other than those twats we’re Kings of The Midlands. Doesn’t look like we’ll get chance to redress that balance anytime soon.
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Difficult game, no walkover, i'm going for 2-1 Villa.
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Difficult game, no walkover, i'm going for 2-1 Villa.
To be fair I can think of three walkovers this season - it’s not something we tend to do. Agree we’ll need to be right at it.
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v Walsall in the old third division. P4 W0 D3 L1
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If Sunderland scrape a win tomorrow they are above Chelski. That's crazy.
We win, as good as qualified.
Tomorrow really is like a Champions League match.
COYVB.
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Torquay. P 5 W 1 D 1 L 3.
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v Walsall in the old third division. P4 W0 D3 L1
And the gate money kept the ungrateful bastards in business.
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I recall vividly the game against Sunderland in 1975 after we had already gained promotion at Sheffield Wednesday in midweek.
They had a huge following with 57,000 crammed into a vibrant Villa Park on a warm spring day.
They needed to win to get promoted and gave us a guard of honour as the teams came onto the pitch.
We despatched them 2-0, the imperious and very young Sir Brian on the score sheet.
Same again tomorrow please Villa.
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I recall vividly the game against Sunderland in 1975 after we had already gained promotion at Sheffield Wednesday in midweek.
They had a huge following with 57,000 crammed into a vibrant Villa Park on a warm spring day.
They needed to win to get promoted and gave us a guard of honour as the teams came onto the pitch.
We despatched them 2-0, the imperious and very young Sir Brian on the score sheet.
Same again tomorrow please Villa.
If I remember correctly, the other scorer was Ian Ross with a penalty to put us 1 up
Apparently if we’d have been winning when the penalty was given Jimmy Cumbes was going to take it, as every outfield player that day had scored that season.
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We were locked for that one after my uncle insisted we had time for another pint in the Yenton, Erdington Only game we missed that season between us. Got season tickets following season.
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On the pitch after the game, magic day.
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What an opportunity today is. Win and go 10 points clear of 6th.
Do not even consider fucking it up.
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What an opportunity today is. Win and go 10 points clear of 6th.
Do not even consider fucking it up.
Unless Everton beat Liverpool. Which I think they will
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We were locked for that one after my uncle insisted we had time for another pint in the Yenton, Erdington Only game we missed that season between us. Got season tickets following season.
My mate from school was too as he missed the bus rest of us got, he watched what he could from Aston Park.
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I recall vividly the game against Sunderland in 1975 after we had already gained promotion at Sheffield Wednesday in midweek.
They had a huge following with 57,000 crammed into a vibrant Villa Park on a warm spring day.
They needed to win to get promoted and gave us a guard of honour as the teams came onto the pitch.
We despatched them 2-0, the imperious and very young Sir Brian on the score sheet.
Same again tomorrow please Villa.
My first match - never be forgotten
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what tmes kick off . someone messaged me said its been changed ? maybe winding me up the leicester twat
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sorry he has it mixed up with tottenham changed to 7 pm
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Mings, Maatsen and Barkley in for Pau, Buendia and Digne.
Otherwise as you were
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Pau not in squad. Hope he’s just resting in his account.
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I recall vividly the game against Sunderland in 1975 after we had already gained promotion at Sheffield Wednesday in midweek.
They had a huge following with 57,000 crammed into a vibrant Villa Park on a warm spring day.
They needed to win to get promoted and gave us a guard of honour as the teams came onto the pitch.
We despatched them 2-0, the imperious and very young Sir Brian on the score sheet.
Same again tomorrow please Villa.
My first match - never be forgotten
I remember it well. My 21st birthday.