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Title: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 15, 2026, 09:44:35 PM
Quickly moving on. Massive game at Villa Park. We need a big crowd and all the energy to see us over the line. Hoping Unai doesn’t just go with the same old players and tactics. The players need to lift Villa Park. I’ll go for a 2-1 win.

Fully expect Buendia, Bailey and Ollie to start to start but I’d go with this.

Martinez
Cash
Maatsen
Konsa
Pau
Luiz
Onana
McGinn
Elliott
Rogers
Tammy


Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 15, 2026, 09:46:47 PM
Win the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 15, 2026, 09:49:16 PM
Extra time options please, TV?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: brontebilly on March 15, 2026, 09:56:01 PM
Nervy win, can't trust Emery to pick a sensible team of late.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Legion on March 15, 2026, 10:09:56 PM
0-0 nail-biter.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 15, 2026, 10:55:04 PM
1-0 home win, then on to Bologna.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: dorsetvillian on March 16, 2026, 07:48:27 AM
Can't believe how many tickets unsold for this..
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 16, 2026, 08:07:02 AM
Don't think Barkley is in the squad for this is he? Shame, as arguably our best player against Manure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: darren woolley on March 16, 2026, 08:59:57 AM
I'm going for us to beat them in normal time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: TheToffnar on March 16, 2026, 09:21:13 AM
I'd like to think Emery will use this game as a chance to really raise confidence. They're the worst team we've played in two months, go for it and absolutely embarrass them on our turf to set a president for Sunday.

That won't happen of course, it'll be a cagey, horrible, ill convincing 1-1, but I can dream. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 16, 2026, 10:20:42 AM
I'd vote for Lille to win after extra time but I can't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Drummond on March 16, 2026, 10:43:11 AM
I'd like to think Emery will use this game as a chance to really raise confidence. They're the worst team we've played in two months, go for it and absolutely embarrass them on our turf to set a president for Sunday.

That won't happen of course, it'll be a cagey, horrible, ill convincing 1-1, but I can dream. 

Don't beat around the Bush.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: aldridgeboy on March 16, 2026, 11:32:53 AM
An early goal to settle the nerves. Then concede to ruin the nerves. 2-1 agg win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2026, 11:37:09 AM
Extra time options please, TV?

hmm...yeh, I don't think I can mate for some reason. Maybe a mod can correct it
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: AV82EC on March 16, 2026, 11:40:29 AM
I'd be happy with a draw tbh and I think Emery would too. Our whole Europa League campaign has to be the dullest on record and I think that's by design. Barring Go Ahead Eagles where the players utterly fucked it up, we've been getting away with the bare minimum for most of the tournament.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Monty on March 16, 2026, 11:41:15 AM
Honestly, this is our season to me now. Maybe that's defeatist but I can't see us getting top five.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: eamonn on March 16, 2026, 12:13:26 PM
Win this and use it as rocket-fuel to slam WHam on Sunday.

It's my first double-header in attendance at Villa since a 0-0 and 1-1 with Charlton (Weds evening) and Bolton, (Saturday aft) April '05. I'd be impressed if anyone remembers either of those games. Mid-era Dolly Doldrums. I think even our goal against Bolton was an OG...

The dross served-up on the pitch was thankfully enlivened by a trip to the Bartons, after the Bolton game - in the Boardroom, no less.

Dave Woodhall spluttered with disapproval when he asked what I was drinking and in my callow youth, I asked for a pint of Budweiser. He got me something dark and Belgian and in a weary tone, suggested I had much to learn about life.

Drummond was an affable presence. He smiled a lot - not many H&V men did at the time. Has that changed over the years? Dear Reader, I'll leave that for you to judge.

Mark Fletcher, the forum's SJM in the mid-00s, just as ebullient in real life. Amfy, friendly and a welcome female presence. Disco Stu...his Morrisseyisms not as barbed in person as on H&V Manilla but still, hard to know who he really was. Ozzjim, a generous host but at the time still seemingly hung-up on the "Bolton semi girl".

It was formative, thank you all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: TheToffnar on March 16, 2026, 12:44:21 PM
Lovely read that. Warmed the cockles of my withered brummie heart.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Nunkin1965 on March 16, 2026, 01:04:23 PM
Lovely read that. Warmed the cockles of my withered brummie heart.
A mention of The Bartons warmed my ageing cockles.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: TheToffnar on March 16, 2026, 01:17:34 PM
Indeed. Waiting 20 minutes to get served, then to be greeted by the withering look of disgust from the bar staff as I ask for 6 pints of genius...

Halcyon days.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: olaftab on March 16, 2026, 01:37:23 PM
Extra time options please, TV?
This is what you get when kids starts something ::)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Drummond on March 16, 2026, 01:37:23 PM
Win this and use it as rocket-fuel to slam WHam on Sunday.

It's my first double-header in attendance at Villa since a 0-0 and 1-1 with Charlton (Weds evening) and Bolton, (Saturday aft) April '05. I'd be impressed if anyone remembers either of those games. Mid-era Dolly Doldrums. I think even our goal against Bolton was an OG...

The dross served-up on the pitch was thankfully enlivened by a trip to the Bartons, after the Bolton game - in the Boardroom, no less.

Dave Woodhall spluttered with disapproval when he asked what I was drinking and in my callow youth, I asked for a pint of Budweiser. He got me something dark and Belgian and in a weary tone, suggested I had much to learn about life.

Drummond was an affable presence. He smiled a lot - not many H&V men did at the time. Has that changed over the years? Dear Reader, I'll leave that for you to judge.

Mark Fletcher, the forum's SJM in the mid-00s, just as ebullient in real life. Amfy, friendly and a welcome female presence. Disco Stu...his Morrisseyisms not as barbed in person as on H&V Manilla but still, hard to know who he really was. Ozzjim, a generous host but at the time still seemingly hung-up on the "Bolton semi girl".

It was formative, thank you all.

I've been divorced, remarried, had three children, a dog, 4 jobs (but back at the one I was in at that time) and am a miserable sleep-deprived git these days. But yes, get me in a pub and I'll smile.

I thought it was the 2-2 where I'd missed the first 3 goals in the opening few minutes (through selling H&V) before arriving just before the 4th went in on 9 minutes and that was the game done. But that was August, and the sun was probably shining.

There are highlights of your game on the Premier League website for anyone that cares.

I'd try and recreate it for you eamonn but I'll be in Liverpool supporting my lad's school team on Thursday in the Schools Cup Northern area final (they were champions of Sheffield, then South Yorkshire) and win this round and they are at the National finals...... And then coaching his team on Sunday without enough time to get to Villa Park. And the Bartons is shut.....
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Ads on March 16, 2026, 01:40:05 PM
Be disappointed to concede against these. They're awful and looked massively ineffective. Tie should already be over.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: AV82EC on March 16, 2026, 01:56:58 PM
Be disappointed to concede against these. They're awful and looked massively ineffective. Tie should already be over.

Definitely. We should have a comfortable 2-0 lead from that away game but I said the same after Fenerbache. Need to be much more clinical.

Pau, Maatsen, Dougie, Sancho and hopefully Cash back in for this please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Flamingo Lane on March 16, 2026, 03:03:45 PM
Be disappointed to concede against these. They're awful and looked massively ineffective. Tie should already be over.

Definitely. We should have a comfortable 2-0 lead from that away game but I said the same after Fenerbache. Need to be much more clinical.

Pau, Maatsen, Dougie, Sancho and hopefully Cash back in for this please.

Shows how bad things have become, Sancho's return is bring considered a positive thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Mister E on March 16, 2026, 03:36:20 PM
Quickly moving on. Massive game at Villa Park. We need a big crowd and all the energy to see us over the line. Hoping Unai doesn’t just go with the same old players and tactics. The players need to lift Villa Park. I’ll go for a 2-1 win.

Fully expect Buendia, Bailey and Ollie to start to start but I’d go with this.

Martinez
Cash
Maatsen
Konsa
Pau
Luiz
Onana
McGinn
Elliott
Rogers
Tammy
I think you've picked a good side there, but I agree with your reservation that Emery will go back to the tried-and-tested. Getting our rightback back would be a great bonus.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: LeeS on March 16, 2026, 04:01:56 PM
Lille are 6-1 to go through. Nice little hedge there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Nunkin1965 on March 16, 2026, 04:04:47 PM
Indeed. Waiting 20 minutes to get served, then to be greeted by the withering look of disgust from the bar staff as I ask for 6 pints of genius...

Halcyon days.
Absolutely.
Waiting to be served at peak time may well have resulted in full beard growth, but where else could you go where pints slide off the tables themselves?

Beautiful times.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 16, 2026, 04:51:06 PM
Indeed. Waiting 20 minutes to get served, then to be greeted by the withering look of disgust from the bar staff as I ask for 6 pints of genius...

Halcyon days.
Absolutely.
Waiting to be served at peak time may well have resulted in full beard growth, but where else could you go where pints slide off the tables themselves?

Beautiful times.

That happened so many times to us. The bar staff replaced all lost drinks to be fair. They could have saved a few bob by putting more beer mats out or building up the table legs of the offending table to allow for the slope in the floor.
I hope that some day I can witness it again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 16, 2026, 09:23:10 PM
Was hoping this tie would be already over so we could rest players and bring back Bailey , Buendia and Watkins . 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 16, 2026, 09:44:08 PM
The Barton’s a huge loss, I never knowingly met anyone from here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: PhilVill on March 17, 2026, 06:33:44 AM
A win, and a comfortable one. Think it might actually kick start the next two months. Wouldn't surprise me if Elliott starts either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 17, 2026, 11:25:30 AM
Seats seem to be selling pretty poorly from what i can see - availability in all areas

Maybe the novelty has worn off by having high expectancy and measured against the actual dross we are watching lately?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 17, 2026, 01:07:09 PM
Giroud to score early. Villa finally get a penalty... five minutes after substituting Luiz... and miss it. Villa do score eventually, but it is disallowed after a seven minute VAR delay. Lille score the aggregate winner on 116 minutes from a breakaway from our twenty-third shit corner of the evening.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on March 17, 2026, 01:07:30 PM
Seats seem to be selling pretty poorly from what i can see - availability in all areas

Maybe the novelty has worn off by having high expectancy and measured against the actual dross we are watching lately?
Could just be a case of people watching the pennies in anticipation of the price rises across the board resulting from the antics of Trump & Co.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 17, 2026, 01:20:32 PM
The Bolton 2-2 had debut goals for Kevin Phillips and Aaron Hughes I think.

Was years later when I met most of those people for the first time. They were the biggest band of cut-throats, villains and murderers you could ever hope to see.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: eamonn on March 17, 2026, 02:05:50 PM
Barely a Hero in sight?

Forgot to mention, meeting Paul "The Weatherman" as he was known on here, to ask him whether it was really true that he had sold a piano to Hassan Kachloul as he had once claimed on H&V, was a highlight. He doubled-down and said he had.

Dunno if he was pulling my leg, he had kind eyes (Paul, not Hassan).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: brontebilly on March 17, 2026, 02:10:12 PM
A win, and a comfortable one. Think it might actually kick start the next two months. Wouldn't surprise me if Elliott starts either.

Score early and it will be a cruise. Lille are very average. Emery and the team are incredibly brittle at the moment so expect an early Lille goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on March 18, 2026, 09:57:19 AM
Going tomorrow night, first time in a few weeks. Think it will be a tight game, Lille managed to turn it around at Red Star away in the previous round. Hope the atmosphere is better than the Salzburg game which was as flat as a fart.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: DB on March 18, 2026, 02:08:54 PM
Gonna head for the Warehouse, not had food in there, anyone know if any good?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: TheToffnar on March 18, 2026, 02:21:07 PM
Gonna head for the Warehouse, not had food in there, anyone know if any good?

Yeah it's alright. Had curry and chips in there the day it opened, didn't have to sell a kidney for the privilege either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 18, 2026, 03:55:52 PM
No presser or team news yet?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 18, 2026, 04:42:44 PM
Unai Emery, Aston Villa coach: "We won the first match, which is very important. It is not enough, I know it isn't.[This game] is very important for us in this competition."
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Somniloquism on March 18, 2026, 07:21:36 PM
Training photos had Cash in them. Looked like Lindelof was wearing a face mask as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 18, 2026, 07:28:54 PM
The Bolton 2-2 had debut goals for Kevin Phillips and Aaron Hughes I think.

Was years later when I met most of those people for the first time. They were the biggest band of cut-throats, villains and murderers you could ever hope to see.

And that was just your brother.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 18, 2026, 07:43:05 PM
Gonna head for the Warehouse, not had food in there, anyone know if any good?
Went there before the Newcastle cup game and for an hour after the Leeds game. Didn’t eat in there, but two or three choices for about a tenner each. Easy to get served for beers. Its not like a great pub, e.g. Bartons talk, but its ok, other football on the screens, ex players being interviewed live etc
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: DB on March 18, 2026, 08:22:20 PM
Gonna head for the Warehouse, not had food in there, anyone know if any good?
Went there before the Newcastle cup game and for an hour after the Leeds game. Didn’t eat in there, but two or three choices for about a tenner each. Easy to get served for beers. Its not like a great pub, e.g. Bartons talk, but its ok, other football on the screens, ex players being interviewed live etc

I went a couple of times when it was just the foyer bit, service for beer was good. Hoping same tomorrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: brontebilly on March 19, 2026, 06:53:58 AM
I'd go with Martinez, Cash (Bogarde), Konsa, Torres, Maatsen, Onana, Luiz, McGinn, Rogers, Barkley, Tammy.

I fear Emery will go with Bailey and Watkins again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Dave on March 19, 2026, 07:00:22 AM
Barkley still can't play
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: brontebilly on March 19, 2026, 07:18:27 AM
Barkley still can't play

Does that leave Sancho or Bailey? Buendia limped off at weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Dave on March 19, 2026, 07:38:58 AM
Or Elliott
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 19, 2026, 08:03:14 AM
Barkley still can't play


I dont know the rules but why did we put Baileys name in the squad and not Barkleys?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Somniloquism on March 19, 2026, 08:13:37 AM
Manager decided it. Barkley was coming back from injury but was on the bench for the match where we would have had final decision. I suspect he didn't think Barkley would last or realised he didn't really have a right side player with letting Guessand and Malen go. (Bad jokes about we still don't with Bailey playing inbound).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Dave on March 19, 2026, 08:15:44 AM
We could add three new players to the original squad to replace Malen, Guessand and Kamara. Abraham, DL, Bailey and Barkley were the options.

Presumably at the time we thought we had enough in the midfield, and Bailey was needed in place of Malen and Guessand over both DL and Barkley being needed in place of Kamara.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: rob_bridge on March 19, 2026, 05:41:43 PM
2.1 to us

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: manic-road on March 19, 2026, 06:05:55 PM
Still plenty of tickets left for this one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Rigadon on March 19, 2026, 06:11:13 PM
Still plenty of tickets left for this one.

I’ve got no evidence that this is due to the seemingly growing discontent which has been turbo charged as a result of cheating clubs getting away with it, but if it were linked, I’d struggle to be surprised. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 19, 2026, 06:12:58 PM
Sub 35k expected. 900 from  lille only
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 19, 2026, 06:17:53 PM
Given players available id go with

Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Maatsen
Luiz
Onana
McGinn
Watkins
Rogers
Sancho

No score prediction, just win
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 19, 2026, 06:22:40 PM
It's a minimum of £55 for a non ST holder adult and the classic 2 parents and 2 kids is a minimum of £160 for non ST, i'm not surprised it isn't selling out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Somniloquism on March 19, 2026, 06:24:16 PM
Especially with our current form and it being played against a team we have already played.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Nev on March 19, 2026, 06:24:45 PM
Their fans were being escorted by the fuzz outside the Crowne Plaza earlier, noisy with some big flags. The fans, not the police
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: brontebilly on March 19, 2026, 06:30:24 PM
Especially with our current form and it being played against a team we have already played.

Knock out european tie all the same, we were long enough waiting for games like these.

Hope we get the job done in 90 mins tonight, no injuries and on we go.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Lille - last 16 2nd leg pre match chat
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 19, 2026, 06:40:07 PM
Their fans were being escorted by the fuzz outside the Crowne Plaza earlier, noisy with some big flags. The fans, not the police

No drum I hope?
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