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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on February 27, 2026, 09:59:26 PM
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Awful. Players need to take a long look at themselves. As does Unai.
We can talk about the injuries but look at those 2 starting 11s and benches and there is no way we should be losing that.
Changes should have been made at HT, Bailey should not have been on, Tammy should have been on earlier. Wolves are utter shit and yet we looked barely competent against them.
Load of utter shit.
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Unacceptable.
Shit for weeks. Persisting with things that are clearly not working.
Absolutely falling to pieces. Manager seems to have no idea what to do. I would back pretty much anyone to beat us at the moment.
Kamara is a big loss but hey, maybe we could have spent some of the huge amounts of money we spaffed on players we seem not to rate, on ones who could help?
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Never in doubt. And uncannily like last year, chasing the game at 0-1 when Cunah countered and scores late on. Not a shred of footballing intelligence or courage between our lot tonight. Absolute rabble.
Commiserations if you have to live amongst wulfs for the next few days/weeks...
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I have no words.
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We really are absolute Blues at the moment
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Can't even say we were unlucky, we were just shit and getting fuck all is what we deserved.
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They won't have an easier game for the next two seasons.
I genuinely have no idea what we were trying to do tonight.
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Not brave enough, the manager with selections and players on the pitch
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Everton was bad, Leeds was worse, in its own way.
But this is a special level of ineptitude.
Can't be surrendering points to bilge like this and expect to do owt.
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It's predictable to us as fans so it's bloody obvious to every other manager. We need to change, we need to stop starting the same 11 and we need to be quicker.
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Poor in every single department. An embarrassing and potentially season changing defeat. It's on Emery too, picking players who never seem to want to battle and scrap for every ball in a local derby. So many players were poor, I honestly can't thin k of any player who deserves their wage this week. We never laid a glove on them.
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Ollie Watkins is finished. Please stop playing him. This result is totally unacceptable though. Totally shite from start to finish. Everyone was shite. We are Man Utd in reverse.
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We look totally lost, midfield is awful, start Barkley FFS. Why is Watkins playing? Buendia is just shit.
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Must beat Chelsea and United now. Need some results to go our way this weekend.
Really disappointed in the players tonight.
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They won't have an easier game for the next two seasons.
I genuinely have no idea what we were trying to do tonight.
Keep it tight until half time and hope to nick a goal in the second half.
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A complete shambles. Shameful.
I’m not sure how we recover from this, but Emery and the players have to find a way or the season completely slides away.
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Own that Emery.
You picked the team. You choose those tactics.
We have been stinking the place out for weeks.
This is bar far the worst result in a long time.
Appalling.
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Definition of madness. Repeating the same rubbish over and over and expecting a different outcome.
What an embarassment.
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Desperate stuff in the 2nd half.
Watkins, Rogers, Buendia terrible. Onana for all he was in the first half was appalling in the second.
It isn't over yet but fucking hell, it's going to be difficult.
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Absolutely disgraceful.
But you could see it coming and nothing was done about it.
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Weak mentality.
Tammy must start
Only way we'll get top 5 is if Chelsea collapse
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We look totally lost, midfield is awful, start Barkley FFS. Why is Watkins playing? Buendia is just shit.
We had less control when Barkley came on.
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Optically, if not purely statistically, we must be the worst team in the division at the moment form-wise.
The bottom team, apparently one of the worst ever to (dis)grace the division, were head and shoulders above us since the moment Dougie hit one straight at their keeper.
We're not even going to make the Conference League at this rate.
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All on Emery that one. Disgusting performance top to bottom.
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The problem wasn't the starting eleven, more the changes. Bailey was as shit as everyone knew he would be. At least change the shape, have a plan b.
There are too many experienced players in the team for there to be no leaders on the pitch.
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Very little you can say to that, this is a team that will be relegated and we are a team fighting for Champions League, I can't think of a single thing that allows a glimmer of hope that say's we can get there.
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I genuinely don’t know what to say.
This is mainly on the stubbornness of our manager tonight. But we are just not good enough.
This is this shite from the start of the season coming back to haunt us. And we did nothing about it.
I genuinely feel that with PSR, we’re fucked now.
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Alysson looked good again though!
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Onana has got to put that big chance in injury time away. Takes a 2nd touch and Sa is spread. seconds later its 2-0
absolute bottle jobs. unai did us no favours hooking sancho who was doing alright
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Predictable in so many ways and not a surprise.
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Weak mentality.
Tammy must start
Only way we'll get top 5 is if Chelsea collapse
All eyes on Chelsea now your quite right we need Chelsea to screw up big time
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Worst night of the Emery era but it has felt weirdly like people have been manifesting the shitness since January. Whole club threw the towel in when kamara got injured.
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There are no excuses for that. Absolutely fcukin shite. Embarrassing, disgusting, pathetic…every single one of them.
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Wolves treated it like a derby,we treated it like a training session.Totally on Unai for me.He's turned back to the risk averse football that just doesn't work .
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I don’t like going in on the players but that was a disgraceful performance.
Show some f*****g balls and stop hiding behind the injuries.
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They won't have an easier game for the next two seasons.
I genuinely have no idea what we were trying to do tonight.
Keep it tight until half time and hope to nick a goal in the second half.
It would have helped if someone had been capable of doing so!
Daz Hale is as happy as Larry!
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I don't mind the starting. The choices from HT were very poor from Unai. Starting with 0 changes.
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Must beat Chelsea and United now. Need some results to go our way this weekend.
Really disappointed in the players tonight.
How are we going to beat Chelsea and Man Utd? How?
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There can be no excuses for bringing Bailey on and starting with Watkins & Digne. Unai needs to sort this out very quickly or we risk doing a Forest and barely scraping in the Conference places. The team tonight should have been able to see off Wolves, but we looked desperate. We stopped attacking down our right at the end because all the players realised that Bailey would just Xuck it up again.
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Shit, absolute shit.
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I genuinely don’t know what to say.
This is mainly on the stubbornness of our manager tonight. But we are just not good enough.
This is this shite from the start of the season coming back to haunt us. And we did nothing about it.
I genuinely feel that with PSR, we’re fucked now.
Yeah, we wont get CL playing like this and can’t spend any money anyway.
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Really poor first half and yet no one could have believed how bad we would be in the 2nd.
We were one down and chasing the game from around the hour mark and between 60 & 90 minutes we had one shot on target against that shit.
I thought Sancho was poor, but Bailey was even worse when he came on.
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Alysson looked good again though!
Start the fucker. Why not? I know someone sensible is going to say you don't want to chuck him in when we're in a bit of a spiral but I don't want sensible.
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Makes a point against Leeds look like a brilliant result that. We are horrific to watch again currently.
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Absolutely disgraceful, you take plaudits when winning, you now take the shit when playing shit
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In 35 years supporting Villa I have never been more fucked off with a result. That made the Palace game look like we were peak Barca.
Absolute fucking shambles - and when we sell Roger’s in the summer it’ll be because of games like this.
That was the worst performance by any team all season.
The whole lot can fuck off
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Digne did one awful cross but he wasn't the reason we lost. Maatsen was rubbish too. I think the players are losing confidence in themselves. They need to own their share of this.
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Bringing Bailey on before Alyson was an awful decision. Leaving Watkins on just as bad. But the whole approach was just awful.
They wanted it, we obviously didn't. Might not be true but that's what it fucking well looked like to me
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Really stinky
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This is beginning to feel like a downturn that we aren't really going to emerge from.
Our season is fucked, and that could in turn fuck next season too.
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Terrible team selection, Watkins hopeless again. We are a very poor side at the moment with no leader. Why when we were useless all the first half did he wait until 60 minutes to make changes, and why bring Bailey on, ridiculous.
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Watkins simply cannot start the next game. Maatsen needs to come in for Digne.
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Konsa arguing with fan or fans.
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Must beat Chelsea and United now. Need some results to go our way this weekend.
Really disappointed in the players tonight.
We won’t get fuck all out of those. Injuries aside it’s no excuse. Sick of the nosebleeds we get at the top of the table and to
Lose to bottom of the league wolves is a fucking embarrassment.
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These players have given us so much but that was an absolute embarrassment.
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In 35 years supporting Villa I have never been more fucked off with a result. That made the Palace game look like we were peak Barca.
Absolute fucking shambles - and when we sell Roger’s in the summer it’ll be because of games like this.
That was the worst performance by any team all season.
The whole lot can fuck off
I agree. But Rogers was as shite as everyone else.
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Konsa arguing with fan or fans.
He can fuck off with that shit.
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Turns out it actually was unsustainable
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Not brave enough, the manager with selections and players on the pitch
Brave is not a word in this team's dictionary. 50/50 ball? You must be fucking joking!
Unai, you've done nothing but enhance Einstein's reputation tonight. It's not fucking working. Change it, ffs!
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Alysson looked good again though!
Start the fucker. Why not? I know someone sensible is going to say you don't want to chuck him in when we're in a bit of a spiral but I don't want sensible.
Correct and a better option then Sancho bailey or Buendia, play him from now on. Also, Ollie mate what are you doing.
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Konsa arguing with fan or fans.
Konsa is a terrible captain, utterly lost out there again.
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Weak as piss from everyone that was. Deserved nothing.
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In 35 years supporting Villa I have never been more fucked off with a result. That made the Palace game look like we were peak Barca.
Absolute fucking shambles - and when we sell Roger’s in the summer it’ll be because of games like this.
That was the worst performance by any team all season.
The whole lot can fuck off
Will anyone want him if he continues with performances like that? Seems he's bought into his own hype.
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I would not back us to beat anyone we are so poor. One of the worse things to happen is Bailey coming back off loan.
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Worst thing is...who didn't see that coming? Was gutted when I saw the XI. Didn't say anything as I've been mostly negative the last few weeks, but that team is obviously not working. The starting attack, barring Rogers and to an extent Sacho, is wank.
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I see Emery fucked off down the tunnel again.
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You could just see it coming. Unable to take our first half chances - dare I say dominance - & we’re way too pedestrian. They’re coached to do that, which is all on Unai.
We need the explosive, innovative team back but we’re missing our 3 players who give us that.
Luiz is the Luiz who lost interest before he left. Appalling.
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Not brave enough, the manager with selections and players on the pitch
For me, this is it.
We haven’t been brave enough for weeks. It cost us an FA cup run, it’s allowed 3 clubs to reel us in. But the worst part of it is that we have put ourselves under massive pressure and it’s all self inflicted.
I have never really understood why we are favourites for the EL, there is not a hope in hell of winning that with we are crumbling.
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Konsa arguing with fan or fans.
He can fuck off with that shit.
it's the fans fault, that we couldn't score (yes he can f off with that shit)
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It's been garbage for weeks sadly. Going to be a long march to the end of the season. Would be overjoyed with 62-65 points.
Personally, I'd put all our eggs into the Europa League now, beat Lille and hopefully have a fresh SJM and Tileman's back from there.
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Unai has to contain this, players arguing with each other arguing with fans. we are still third with it all to play for. Unai get this sorted.
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Looked good against Newcastle away.
But has rapidly declined to last season's form.
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Disgusting performance after first 15 mins or so. Wolves are mid table championship at best. No positives really. Think we have bigger issues, injuries aside, think our squad is in need of a serious overhaul. Financial restrictions have delayed it but some stalwarts look done.
Martinez 6 - can't recall a save or anything to do bar picking ball out of his net
Cash 6 - gassed completely late on but one of the few who played at the right tempo
Konsa 4 - awful for first goal, started ok but decision making went to pot. Not a captain
Torres 4 - Started ok but distribution very average and that's the reason he's in the team. Pathetic effort with header
Digne 2 - completely finished, that's on Emery for selecting him
Onana 1 - waste of space yet again, first man out the door in summer.
Luiz 6 - inexplicable decision to take him off early. Decent first half, beggared belief really
Sancho 2 - putting faith in this guy is always misplaced. Another fraud
Buendia 2 - hyped to the max from first whistle when we needed focus. Form has collapsed
Rogers 4 - bit better on left, again that's on Emery. Hasn't worked at 10 in weeks and bizarrely ended up back there late on
Watkins 3 - horrendous effort early on, touch horrible. He's done sadly
Subs Barkley can't play in a two, that selection was punished within minutes. Nice touches around their box where he should have been playing. Bailey was tragic, wtf was Emery thinking. Maatsen was a huge improvement, Alysson mixed bag but at least looked a footballer in comparison to Sancho & Bailey. Tammy struggled to get involved but brought on far too late.
Emery had a nightmare. Team selection with Rogers at 10 again, Watkins & Digne. That was poor. The subs and timing off them made no sense. Half time needed changes.
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Please Unai, do not give Sancho and Bailey another minute of playing time in our shirt, they are both beyond useless!!
Ollie can book his summer holidays now, because there is no way he is going to the World Cip!
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Got to hope this is the nadir, getting done by one of the worst teams ever in the league but I’ve been here and felt like this before with Villa. It deffo feels like the team just does not give a shit.
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We actually got worse as the game went on, why are we always pants at Wolves?
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The minute McGinn got injured against Everton, it was like the light went off at the club. No one has stepped up. The lads that came back to us have reverted to the worst version of themselves that we know, Bailey most certainly has, Luiz is not brilliant either. We didn't or couldn't strengthen in January when we were in a position of strength. Were are still in a good spot in league, but I worry that the heart has gone out of the team for now, and when we find it again we will be in a dash for sixth or seventh. We are dropping like a stone down this league if we continue as we are.
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Lee Hendrie highlighting Barkley for their first goal. Onana half hearted jog back also deserved mention.
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That was totally predictable.
Has Emery lost the plot?
Or is he obsessively wedded to his style of play and can't/won't/isn't able to change?
Has a system based on McGinn/Kamara and Tielemans. But without them it's obvious that we'll struggle.
But his job is to find a way with the players he's got at his disposal - adapt, evolve, change.
But he stubbornly sticks to his beliefs -trying to play a system that the players struggle with - why?
Failed to score early (Watkins and Torres), confidence ebbed away and they grew into the game.
Good luck trying to create sn atmosphere for future home games.
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I would not back us to beat anyone we are so poor. One of the worse things to happen is Bailey coming back off loan.
Worst was allowing Malen to leave. A simple "Not until the summer" would have been enough. Instead we have nothing up front. Nothing.
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Even losing 3 of our best midfielders pretty much all at once, recent performances have been awful. Yes, I expected a drop off but not be this bad. Emery is not helping himself with same players starting e.g. Watkins, Buendia and not showing any improvement, it’s getting worse if anything.
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Most angriest Ive been of any match this season and dont think I will calm down all week.
Emery fucked it up with his line up and subs , playing out of form players over and over again. Players out of position . I know he is elite but lately he is getting mugged by Edwards , Andrews and Farke , no Idea what he is playing at .
Allyson is a right winger but stick him on the left instead of Bailey on the right , leave Buendia on and take off Luis , he starta with Ollie instead of Tammy , Luca D is finished as a prem player , Onana a 50 million player again fake , Rogers looks a boro player again .
Europa Cup is going too be so hard as well.
He fights for Tammy and lets Malen go and gets hardly any minutes .
i will calm down in April Im sure .
Wolves can tell us all summer they stopped us getting champs league
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It's been garbage for weeks sadly. Going to be a long march to the end of the season. Would be overjoyed with 62-65 points.
Personally, I'd put all our eggs into the Europa League now, beat Lille and hopefully have a fresh SJM and Tileman's back from there.
I’d sack the Europa off if we had got more than one point against Brentford, Everton, Leeds and Wolves. I’ve no faith we’ll turn up against Lille and will get absolutely pumped.
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Martinez 0
Cash 4
Konsa 0
Torres 0
Digne 0
Onana 0
Luiz 0
Sancho 0
Buendia 0
Rogers 0
Watkins 0
Barkley 2
Bailey -10
Maatsen 3
Alysson 6
Tammy 2
Emery 0
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CL football? We don’t deserve conference. This is absolutely shit everywhere. If we’d have put in a performance I’d feel differently but there was nothing. It’s win the Europa or nothing again and my money is on nothing again.
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We actually got worse as the game went on, why are we always pants at Wolves?
Billy Big Bollocks attitude?
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Similar to that awful display at Wolves in January last year. A 2-0 defeat, when they scored their second goal in stoppage time. Interesting that Malen and Guessand are both scoring goals for their clubs.....! A stupid decision with that starting line-up.
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You have been too generous with those ratings PWS.
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I know Lindelof is not a game changer as such, but with such injuries as we have to key players, wouldn't you turn to this bloke's obvious quality and experience, especially when he has shown he's in excellent form? I just don't get why he has been totally ignored over recent weeks.
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That's the first time I think Emery's decisions have ever made me angry.
Luiz was arguably our best (well, least bad) player, yet he gets withdrawn and Buendia - already on a yellow card - stays on.
I think that single decision lost us the game.
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Playing with 10 men with Watkins was bad enough, but then to bring Bailey on beggars belief.
Emery has had time to get more from the players available but has somehow decided to press the self destruct button,
We look like a bottom of the league team and just got done by the bottom of the league team.
Pathetic.
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Lee Hendrie highlighting Barkley for their first goal. Onana half hearted jog back also deserved mention.
Barkley had just come on.
Unpopular opinion - we didn't deserve to lose that. Sure, we didn't deserve to win it either. A Villa win would have been an absolute travesty, infact.
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You have been too generous with those ratings PWS.
I didn't want to be too harsh.
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That's Wolves SECOND win of the season FFS.
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I know Lindelof is not a game changer as such, but with such injuries as we have to key players, wouldn't you turn to this bloke's obvious quality and experience, especially when he has shown he's in excellent form? I just don't get why he has been totally ignored over recent weeks.
I'd have him next to Konsa, been saying it for weeks. Torres was shite again tonight.
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That's the first time I think Emery's decisions have ever made me angry.
Luiz was arguably our best (well, least bad) player, yet he gets withdrawn and Buendia - already on a yellow card - stays on.
I think that single decision lost us the game.
I dunno. Leaving Watkins on for 70+ minutes.
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Similar to that awful display at Wolves in January last year. A 2-0 defeat, when they scored their second goal in stoppage time. Interesting that Malen and Guessand are both scoring goals for their clubs.....! A stupid decision with that starting line-up.
Another thing - our recruitment is largely rubbish, which doesn’t bode well given we need to replace some players in the next couple of seasons.
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It’s just the fact that after dougie missed that chance I knew we would lose that.
So many players look fucking stupid tonight. Onana - wants to go to one of the biggest club in world. And he bottles it trying to be the biggest club in the midlands.
Watkins looks shot - why he starts over Tammy fuck knows. Bailey could make any team worse in his current form.
Beundia - if his first 5 touches aren’t good he needs to be taken off cos he doesn’t turn it round.
Need four points from Chelsea and Utd otherwise we’ll do well to get europa
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We've won 3 league matches in 2026 and it's almost March. It's really only two convincing wins though because of the Brighton own goal 3 points.
If Emery starts Digne and Watkins on Wednesday expect another loss because we won't be scoring.
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Utter pants.
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Wolves were awful, yet the fact that they turned us over like that just shows how bad we were. I actually can't quite believe how bad we were in that game. There were some performances there that were simply unacceptable.
That debacle tonight brings to an end a run of 5 games which always looked season defining (Everton, Brentford, Leeds at home, Bournemouth and Wolves away). To get 5 points out of 15 from those fixtures could be really damaging.
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That's the first time I think Emery's decisions have ever made me angry.
Luiz was arguably our best (well, least bad) player, yet he gets withdrawn and Buendia - already on a yellow card - stays on.
I think that single decision lost us the game.
I dunno. Leaving Watkins on for 70+ minutes.
Putting Tammy on, leaving Ollie on and going two up top. I don't like it but ok. It finally got Rogers into the game on the left. But then take Ollie off a bit later to bring Alysson on and put Rogers back into the middle again. That's just bonkers stuff. Take Bailey off again
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I would not back us to beat anyone we are so poor. One of the worse things to happen is Bailey coming back off loan.
Worst was allowing Malen to leave. A simple "Not until the summer" would have been enough. Instead we have nothing up front. Nothing.
Tammy has shown what he can do in the brief glimpses he’s been on yet Watkins still starts. Although Malen was a great option.
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That's the first time I think Emery's decisions have ever made me angry.
Luiz was arguably our best (well, least bad) player, yet he gets withdrawn and Buendia - already on a yellow card - stays on.
I think that single decision lost us the game.
I love Lil' Emi. But he was hopeless tonight (more than the rest of them, even) and needed to be hooked.
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I had a bad feeling about this game. Every club has a bogey team and ours is the Wolfs at their place.
I was in the pub with a load of lads going to the game earlier and predicted a loss, but predicted a win against Chelsea.
My confidence is not so strong after that performance mind.
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I’m going to throw out a positive. I thought Alysson looked lively.
I’d call a few of our loanees back and give them a go. They must be able to play better than that shite.
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Got to hope this is the nadir, getting done by one of the worst teams ever in the league but I’ve been here and felt like this before with Villa. It deffo feels like the team just does not give a shit.
Either that or they're all shit scared of getting injured. Another cowardly performance from too many.
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Never want Barkley in our team again
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The worst Villa performance I have seen in 30 years. Absolutely disgraceful. Utterly shameful.
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Absolutely pathetic - again. We have been playing like this for weeks and now the results are catching up with us.
Every game - no intent to attack, no apparent plan and just the same mistakes again and again. Injuries or not we are massively underperforming.
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If Onana had put that chance in he had at the end, I would have felt happier but not much. That was absolutely shocking. Where do you start?
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We've scored five goals in our last eight games. Our movement was awful, our desire was even worse. I know we can't replace them all at once but Torres, Digne, Buendia and Watkins all need to have a rest in the next two games as they offer nothing at the moment. Emery had a really bad day at the office but as others have said, if you always do what you've always done, you will always get what you've always got. Ponderous, slow. Poor decisions from Emery.
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I would not back us to beat anyone we are so poor. One of the worse things to happen is Bailey coming back off loan.
Worst was allowing Malen to leave. A simple "Not until the summer" would have been enough. Instead we have nothing up front. Nothing.
Tammy has shown what he can do in the brief glimpses he’s been on yet Watkins still starts. Although Malen was a great option.
Seen highlights earlier of Malen driving into the penalty area and helping to create Rogers' first goal v Leedzzz away and Buendia's against Spurs in the cup.
As well as leadership in the middle of the park that's something we badly miss.
We're too one paced up top.
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That's the first time I think Emery's decisions have ever made me angry.
Luiz was arguably our best (well, least bad) player, yet he gets withdrawn and Buendia - already on a yellow card - stays on.
I think that single decision lost us the game.
I dunno. Leaving Watkins on for 70+ minutes.
Putting Tammy on, leaving Ollie on and going two up top. I don't like it but ok. It finally got Rogers into the game on the left. But then take Ollie off a bit later to bring Alysson on and put Rogers back into the middle again. That's just bonkers stuff. Take Bailey off again
Yes it shows Emery lost the plot and is struggling to cope with the missing players. There is no plan B, just hope and panic.
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The worst Villa performance I have seen in 30 years. Absolutely disgraceful. Utterly shameful.
Saw worse in our relegation season.
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Worst performance under Unai by a mile. And unfortunately as for the last few games his selections were baffling.
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Yeah it was very bad but not the worst ever
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Humiliating. I hope they’re embarrassed of that performance.
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Pau missing that header, Onana missing that chance at the end, we created fuck all else as far as I can remember.
I didnt understand taking Luiz off before Beundia, but there was so much else wrong and this has been the pattern now since mid January.
Dreading Wednesday as it stands
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The worst thing about it was it was so crushingly predictable - this idea of “controlling the game” only works if you can then break the game. We can’t currently - we just invite pressure, concede and cannot do anything from open play,
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The worst Villa performance I have seen in 30 years. Absolutely disgraceful. Utterly shameful.
Saw worse in our relegation season.
You're right. 0-6 home to Liverpool left me white with rage but that doesn't feel like much of a consolation right now!
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It goes to show the incredible job that Emery has done because there are a number of lazy frauds in this squad.
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I would not back us to beat anyone we are so poor. One of the worse things to happen is Bailey coming back off loan.
Worst was allowing Malen to leave. A simple "Not until the summer" would have been enough. Instead we have nothing up front. Nothing.
Tammy has shown what he can do in the brief glimpses he’s been on yet Watkins still starts. Although Malen was a great option.
Not seen enough of Tammy to judge him. What I do know is Malen was clinical, a very rare talent and one we sorely miss.
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Must beat Chelsea and United now. Need some results to go our way this weekend.
Really disappointed in the players tonight.
Has April fools come early? Beat those two.
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Along with Stevenage, tonight is a contender for worst under Unai. But nowhere near the worst we've served up in 30 years.
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I’d say they were abject but it would be awarding them too much praise. We stank from start to finish and as someone said on the match thread, got progressively worse. Truly dire.
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The worst Villa performance I have seen in 30 years. Absolutely disgraceful. Utterly shameful.
Saw worse in our relegation season.
You're right. 0-6 home to Liverpool left me white with rage but that doesn't feel like much of a consolation right now!
Old Trafford was only 9 months ago
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The worst Villa performance I have seen in 30 years. Absolutely disgraceful. Utterly shameful.
It's probably not even in the top 10. Not least because it wasn't a surprise.
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The worst team in Premier League history. Absolutely fucking shameful. There is nothing that comes close. 3rd in the league? You abject fucking cowards.
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The worst thing about it was it was so crushingly predictable - this idea of “controlling the game” only works if you can then break the game. We can’t currently - we just invite pressure, concede and cannot do anything from open play,
Controlling the game? If controlling the game is defined by slowing the game down at every possibility then passing it backwards then we are the absolute masters.
It is what we are doing every week at the minute and it is rotten.
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The worst thing about it was it was so crushingly predictable - this idea of “controlling the game” only works if you can then break the game. We can’t currently - we just invite pressure, concede and cannot do anything from open play,
Controlling the game? If controlling the game is defined by slowing the game down at every possibility then passing it backwards then we are the absolute masters.
It is what we are doing every week at the minute and it is rotten.
That’s kind of my point.
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I think up until about 25 mins we largely controlled the game and if we had scored then in that period, we probably would of won comfortably, but before half time we started slipping back into the familiar pattern of recent weeks. And then the second half….
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Poor in every single department. An embarrassing and potentially season changing defeat. It's on Emery too, picking players who never seem to want to battle and scrap for every ball in a local derby. So many players were poor, I honestly can't thin k of any player who deserves their wage this week. We never laid a glove on them.
I thought Alysson looked good in the short time he was on. He and Tammy should definitely start against Chelsea. The rest were gutless and inept to say the very least.
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We've helped them pass Derby, they'll quite possibly pass 2016 Villa as well.
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Dont think Ive seen a manager having a drink while watching a game neither .
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Maybe not the absolute worst.
But considering how bad the opposition are and how much we needed a win at this stage of the season (not just for this year but next) that has to make the Top 10 for all-time bad results.
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Pau missing that header, Onana missing that chance at the end, we created fuck all else as far as I can remember.
I didnt understand taking Luiz off before Beundia, but there was so much else wrong and this has been the pattern now since mid January.
Dreading Wednesday as it stands
I thought it was obvious subs were needed at half time. We lost focus against the worst team in the division in 15 mins or so before half time and it needed to be addressed. Maatsen for Digne, Tammy for Ollie and Barkley for Buendia. Get Rogers onto left. Emery like v Leeds left it stupidly run for another 15 mins. Then he lost his mind completely with the first two subs.
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Dont think Ive seen a manager having a drink while watching a game neither .
O’Leary used to do it.
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At no point did we look like we were dominant, there was no sustained pressure, it was containment football.
There was no energy or ambition, just trying to contain an absolutely abject Wolves team.
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Maybe not the absolute worst.
But considering how bad the opposition are and how much we needed a win at this stage of the season (not just for this year but next) that has to make the Top 10 for all-time bad results.
It’s up there, because of its importance as well. We are absolutely chucking in our chance at Champions League.
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The worst team in Premier League history. Absolutely fucking shameful. There is nothing that comes close. 3rd in the league? You abject fucking cowards.
They're not the worst team in Premier League history. They were in a death spiral under their previous manager but Edwards has improved their performances. Do you think our 2016 vintage would beat that Wolves team tonight?
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I am utterly disgusted. That was one of the most embarrassing performances in our history.
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Dont think Ive seen a manager having a drink while watching a game neither .
O’Leary used to do it.
Id erased him .
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Pau missing that header, Onana missing that chance at the end, we created fuck all else as far as I can remember.
I didnt understand taking Luiz off before Beundia, but there was so much else wrong and this has been the pattern now since mid January.
Dreading Wednesday as it stands
I thought it was obvious subs were needed at half time. We lost focus against the worst team in the division in 15 mins or so before half time and it needed to be addressed. Maatsen for Digne, Tammy for Ollie and Barkley for Buendia. Get Rogers onto left. Emery like v Leeds left it stupidly run for another 15 mins. Then he lost his mind completely with the first two subs.
Exactly, mind boggling
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Not a surprise as soon as they scored you knew it was game over. They are dreadful but showed some fight and wanted it more. We were weak and predictable. He absolutely cannot pick Watkins against Chelsea. Deserved fuck all.
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At no point did we look like we were dominant, there was no sustained pressure, it was containment football.
There was no energy or ambition, just trying to contain an absolutely abject Wolves team.
The shape and attacking patterns are so wrong st the moment, it looks exactly like the start of the season.
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I think the players had been drinking during the game as well.
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Dont think Ive seen a manager having a drink while watching a game neither .
From a bottle of water, yes. But that was an odd look. Mind you, the conditions looked bloody horrible.
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I wonder if Villa Park will start to get restless if we start badly against Chelsea next week? There'll be an atmosphere, but not one the club would have hoped for!
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Still cant believe he left Watkins and Buendia on with those first subs.
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Dont think Ive seen a manager having a drink while watching a game neither .
Shades of McLaren and his brolly.
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Dont think Ive seen a manager having a drink while watching a game neither .
From a bottle of water, yes. But that was an odd look. Mind you, the conditions looked bloody horrible.
Dont think Ive seen a manager having a drink while watching a game neither .
From a bottle of water, yes. But that was an odd look. Mind you, the conditions looked bloody horrible.
He can swig from a bottle of Crystal Champagne if we are 5 0 up for all I care but that performance needed a bit of rollocking from the touchline.
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At no point did we look like we were dominant, there was no sustained pressure, it was containment football.
There was no energy or ambition, just trying to contain an absolutely abject Wolves team.
Tbf we rarely put any team under sustained pressure, it’s difficult to do with our slow build up play.
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Disgusting performance. Absolutely disgusting. We are in big fucking trouble.
I turned off as soon as the whistle went, heard Konsa was getting at the fans?
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Losing our best 3 midfielders has been bad.
But leaving Lindelof out of the picture and keep playing Watkins &
Bailey has been very damaging.
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Let's be honest, we were fortunate to come away with three points in our home game against Wolves last November. They're not as bad under Edwards as the table suggests, while we've won quite a few games with worldies from outside the box. Our luck has dried up.
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Losing our best 3 midfielders has been bad.
But leaving Lindelof out of the picture and keep playing Watkins &
Bailey has been very damaging.
It’s much more fundamental than that. I know everyone has their individual players who grind their gears - but literally all of them are struggling. We’ve got ourselves into a hole performance wise.
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Is Harvey Elliot as bad as some of these . We are losing the chumps league money at this rate , might have been worth the risk .
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The worst thing about it was it was so crushingly predictable - this idea of “controlling the game” only works if you can then break the game. We can’t currently - we just invite pressure, concede and cannot do anything from open play,
I saw a stat earlier and it was something like out of 17 games where we have had over 65% of play we’ve only won 4 - we just can’t break down teams.
And all season that’s been the case Roger’s been good and Beundia has had moments but everyone else has been shit
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Awful performance, no need to elucidate
So disappointed that we are throwing the season away
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I wonder if the hierarchy at Real Madrid watched that game tonight........not sure they'll chase UE after that 'display'.....!
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Im lost for words i really am.
That was total humiliation. Im fucking angry upset and just totally at a loss at how shit we have become recently.
Maybe the writing has always been on the wall after we were winning games by wonder strikes and not playkng particularly well.
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Some of our away support fighting each other, it isn't a shit Villa away game without that.
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Awful performance, no need to elucidate
So disappointed that we are throwing the season away
Let's face it: it wouldn't be the first time over the years... :'(
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Some of our away support fighting each other, it isn't a shit Villa away game without that.
What happened? Nothing worse than our own fans fighting wach other ffs
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Disappointing night, looks like we'll have to beat Chelsea next week.
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Disappointing night, looks like we'll have to beat Chelsea next week.
I cant see in any reality us winning that if we play like we have since that Everton game. I can see villa park turning soon as fans are gettin fed up of this shite nost weeks
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Worst I've felt after a game since Enckelman night at The Sty.
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Only good thing is we wont have to go to fucking molieniux next season
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Important we look at the game tomorrow Man Utd v Palace, so Palace are no push over if Palace can get result, even a point, we stay 3rd, I always thought it would be a question of clinging on and so it could be, this ain't the end of the world.
Then we have to go to Chelsea, and its up to us, no excuses, meanwhile all eyes on Man Utd v Palace.
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Important we look at the game tomorrow Man Utd v Palace, so Palace are no push over if Palace can get result, even a point, we stay 3rd, I always thought it would be a question of clinging on and so it could be, this ain't the end of the world.
Then we have to go to Chelsea, and its up to us, no excuses, meanwhile all eyes on Man Utd v Palace.
We’re not going to cling onto this for unless we fundamentally change what we’re doing.
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Very strange that most of you think that you know better than a man who had bought us to where we are now….with all the restrictions we’re currently third……so much fucking entitlement in this fans base….
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Saw the first XI announcement and thought bit surprised to see Digne, Buendia and Watkins starting. This is going to be pathetically predictable.
Every single villa fan in the away end and from the armchair let out a collective groan when Bailey was subbed on.
No patterns of play. 3 around Rogers when he had the ball and no one thinks to take up space freed up.
Buendia time and again brushed off with ease on the ball.
You can rely on Watkins to fluff a big chance.
This is on you Emery. You should have threw them a curveball eg Alison starting, Lindelof in midfield, 3 at the back, Barclay behind Abrahams, get Sancho to the byline to cross every opportunity- change something damn it !!!!!
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Yes heaven forbid fans be annoyed at being third and losing to the worst team in the league. Funnily enough I think most people fully believing understand what Unai has done, but it doesn’t mean he doesn’t get things wrong.
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I doubt anyone apart from Unai thought it was a good idea bring on Bailey. Even Bailey asked him if he was being serious.
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Emery is not immune to criticism. I'm not too sure why some people expect that. Most people fully understand how good he is and what he has done for the club, but that doesn't mean he shouldn’t get some stick when we are playing this shite.
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Yes heaven forbid fans be annoyed at being third and losing to the worst team in the league. Funnily enough I think most people fully believing understand what Unai has done, but it doesn’t mean he doesn’t get things wrong.
Or realise he got it wrong and make a change. When the starting lineup was so ineffective changes should have been made much earlier.
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Is Harvey Elliot as bad as some of these . We are losing the chumps league money at this rate , might have been worth the risk .
This is what fucks me off.
We're struggling like fuck because our midfield is injured, but at the same time, we have all that time and money invested in Elliot, who we absolutely do not use.
Where is the joined-up thinking in that?
Weeks of Gerrard level performances, and shit like that going on, it's really not good.
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The worst Villa performance I have seen in 30 years. Absolutely disgraceful. Utterly shameful.
Nah, there were bigger shockers under Lambert and Garde.
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I'd certainly be playing Harvey in Europe ahead of Bailey providing it's true that his appearances don't count in that competition.
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All the warning signs were there….and ignored. As soon as I saw the line up, that was clear.
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Important we look at the game tomorrow Man Utd v Palace, so Palace are no push over if Palace can get result, even a point, we stay 3rd, I always thought it would be a question of clinging on and so it could be, this ain't the end of the world.
Then we have to go to Chelsea, and its up to us, no excuses, meanwhile all eyes on Man Utd v Palace.
We’re at home. Wouldn’t want you to miss it.
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We always struggle against a team like wolves - it might well be why unai has struggled to replicate his amazing achievements at the biggest clubs.
It’s been the same since he’s been here - along with a bit of bottling it. But clearly he has worked miracles
Plenty of players with enough in the bank - a few like Onana who probably need to focus on being good enough for Villa before worrying about anything else.
There are recurring themes - bottling it, struggling against low blocks, poor / unsuitable recruitment - these need to be sorted assuming Unai is here long term (and I hope to god he is)
Bad night - the worst under Unai - but if anyone can put it right he can. Let’s just beat Chelsea and go from there.
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Important we look at the game tomorrow Man Utd v Palace, so Palace are no push over if Palace can get result, even a point, we stay 3rd, I always thought it would be a question of clinging on and so it could be, this ain't the end of the world.
Then we have to go to Chelsea, and its up to us, no excuses, meanwhile all eyes on Man Utd v Palace.
We’re at home. Wouldn’t want you to miss it.
Yeah, got it 👍thank you anyway, we are going to so hammer them, I'm not wrong????.
Oldie I know but sometime you have to go back to the future....
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The worst team in Premier League history. Absolutely fucking shameful. There is nothing that comes close. 3rd in the league? You abject fucking cowards.
But you told us all we were pathetic for predicting this!
You’re like a WW1 Field Marshall.
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Only good thing is we wont have to go to fucking molieniux next season
Moulinex make things simple and that includes the price.
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I'm very disappointed that was bad.
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The worst Villa performance I have seen in 30 years. Absolutely disgraceful. Utterly shameful.
Nah, there were bigger shockers under Lambert and Garde.
Yea come on. I’ll give you three. 2012. 0-8 0-4 0-3 in three consecutive games.
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Oh followed not long after by Bradford. Twice.
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Very strange that most of you think that you know better than a man who had bought us to where we are now….with all the restrictions we’re currently third……so much fucking entitlement in this fans base….
No entitlement at all just calling out another terrible performance
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We need the composure of Kamara, control of Tielemans and drive and determination of McGinn. Nobody else comes close in our squad.
We've lost all of those attributes and seemingly can't replace them not balance the team effectively.
Onana, Luiz and Bailey just aren't a patch on them.
I wouldn't have replaced Sancho, he's looking more effective but as a connector rather than a creator. Alysson for Buendia was a better call. And Abraham for Watkins made sense too. I'm sure Emery doubts the defensive pairing of Torres and Maatsen but that would have given us more of a threat.
The problem in a game like this is us countering the opposition rather than letting them worry about us.
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If we play like that on Wednesday and Chelsea turn us over, it's going to get incredibly toxic very quickly.
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Other than Martinez, who didn’t really do anything wrong, and Cash who is prepared to get stuck in, I thought we were abysmal.
We offloaded Bailey, Buendia and Luiz for a reason and two of them started tonight. Buendia was too weak in midfield and lost the ball on several occasions. He was also hyped up and was trying very hard to get a yellow. Luiz was so so but not spectacularly shit.
Or slow slow style of play is too predictable and easy to play against. Poor efforts from Watkins, Pau and another one showed a lack of self belief and allowed Wolves to get a foothold when their fans were getting angry. The game became more physical and you don’t want Buendia, Sancho and Bailey in a scrap. We became frustrated and played without intelligence. Shit as we were, the subs made us worse.
I have zero positives tonight. At some point I howled abuse at every one of our players but Emery needs to have some responsibility too for not having an alternative game plan for opponents like wolves.
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Predictable in so many ways and not a surprise.
Nail knocked on head.