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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2026, 07:43:44 PM
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No complaints, one of the dumbest performances i've seen from us.
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Sod the FA cup, nothing but bad memories for me
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You don’t make that many mistakes and win matches.
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Concerning loss of home form continues.
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Yeah Newcastle weren't that good, we made it easy for them with the sending off and poor defending. Missed Konsa.
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Utter wank and fuck off bbc
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Think I'd be happy if they just abolished this fucking competition altogether.
No good can come from it.
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That was monumentally fucking shit.
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Never lose that if we had 11. Thought they were crap until then.
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Sod the FA cup, nothing but bad memories for me
Yeah, I’m more concerned about retaining top 5 league position tbh given injuries we have.
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Idotiotic performance. Bizot, stupid challenge. Digne is doing some really poor stuff at the moment.
Bogarde is a young player, but heading back - not under pressure - centrally, and then an abysmal pass cost us two goals (albeit the first was a hell of a hit). It’s tough, but that is not good enough - he doesn’t offer anything in an attacking sense, he has to be defensively better. Hopefully it’s a learning experience.
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They were hard done by with some of the decisions but never felt worried all the time we had 11 on the pitch. Lindelof/Torres not to blame but the 3rd was a disaster from Bogarde. One of those days. Newcastle fans are the sort you hate to see enjoying themselves at VP. And yes if the BBC can mention Bruno out once more please cos they haven’t told us in the last 30 secs. We’ve got 3 out!
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Unai obviously has no interest in the FA Cup and it showed.
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I'm still not over the semi from last year so not fussed. The obsession will be back next January.
Good luck to Newcastle but I wish the media would speak up for us once in a while.
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It’s like we’re on a mission to ensure we win absolutely fuck all, we do everything we can to make sure it doesn’t happen.
Can’t believe that shit today.
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Bizot has been a good signing but he fucked it up royally tonight.
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Yeah Newcastle weren't that good, we made it easy for them with the sending off and poor defending. Missed Konsa.
If you meant because he should have played RB instead of Bogarde, maybe (although Bogarde didn't do much wrong until that final pass). But Lindy and Torres weren't really at fault for any of the goals.
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I'm still not over the semi from last year so not fussed. The obsession will be back next January.
Good luck to Newcastle but I wish the media would speak up for us once in a while.
Well, considering how fast we turn on ourselves is it any surprise? Nervous energy around the place since January. Very obvious players trying to get the fans going.
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Unai obviously has no interest in the FA Cup and it showed.
Like others have mentioned, I’ve very few good memories of it.
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It's not the end of the world, we're never winning this cup again, anyway, are we?
However, it's worrying how often we've looked shit for weeks now.
Playing with 10 is hard (unless you're playing against us, obviously), but that second half was truly pathetic, just laughably shite.
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Shite. Pathetic. Embarrassing.
We’re really struggling with all our injuries and competing in 3 competitions isn't sustainable, so getting dumped out of the FA Cup isn’t the end of the world.
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Unai obviously has no interest in the FA Cup and it showed.
He sent out a strong side. He didn’t look gutted when we scored. He didn’t tell Bizot to be an idiot and get sent off.
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No complaints. Brainless at times. I’ve complained about some if the decisions going against this season but my god the ref had a shocker for us today. First goal offside, Digne should probably have been sent off and then he clearly handles inside the box but the officials give a free kick outside?!? More concerning is the fact that this 3 home losses out of the last 4 home games. Fortress VP no more.
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Yeah, I’m more concerned about retaining top 5 league position tbh given injuries we have.
I'll be more upset if we fail to beat Leeds next week. Europa League and/or a CL spot via the league are our priorities this season.
No injuries, and we're a week closer to getting a couple of key players back.
Sorry, if that's not romantic enough on Valentine's day.
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Shite. Pathetic. Embarrassing.
We’re really struggling with all our injuries and competing in 3 competitions isn't sustainable, so getting dumped out of the FA Cup isn’t the end of the world.
The idea is to try and win cups.
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It's not the end of the world, we're never winning this cup again, anyway, are we?
However, it's worrying how often we've looked shit for weeks now.
Playing with 10 is hard (unless you're playing against us, obviously), but that second half was truly pathetic, just laughably shite.
It’s not just the specific players we have lost that arguably all start for a top 6/7 side. Certainly Kamara and Tielemans. But it’s the structure that Emery bangs on about that’s been broken. To lose all three almost at the same time has been a huge blow to how we operate. Almost impossible to correct in such a short space of time.
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Unai obviously has no interest in the FA Cup and it showed.
He sent out a strong side. He didn’t look gutted when we scored. He didn’t tell Bizot to be an idiot and get sent off.
Yeah don’t agree with that. Considering the injuries that was a strong side. Many said after the last league match to play Tammy and Ross and we missed the passing of Torres.
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Ah well, the FA Cup misery continues. Onwards….
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Everything went in our favour except the stupidity of a goalkeeper. Our goal was offside, they should have had a penalty, digne was lucky not to be sent off. What gets into these keepers brains, just do not foul, if they score we still have eleven players on the pitch. We were well into the game before the sending off, just a clown show.
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Bizot Bizot Bizot
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Yeah, I’m more concerned about retaining top 5 league position tbh given injuries we have.
I'll be more upset if we fail to beat Leeds next week. Europa League and/or a CL spot via the league are our priorities this season.
No injuries, and we're a week closer to getting a couple of key players back.
Sorry, if that's not romantic enough on Valentine's day.
This is the thing isn’t it, CL football is the key to long term competitiveness. I suppose it’s sad but we don’t have the luxury of gunning on all fronts. Although this was a strong team and until Bizot headloss I didn’t think Newcastle were worrying us that much, even if the midfield looked, understandably, weak.
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On a trip to London with Mrs TD for Valentine's, so didn't have to suffer it. My only comments are:
- Last year was the season to get the Cup monkey off our back and we fucked it up.
- Of greater concern is that our home form has gone to shit.
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No complaints. Brainless at times. I’ve complained about some if the decisions going against this season but my god the ref had a shocker for us today. First goal offside, Digne should probably have been sent off and then he clearly handles inside the box but the officials give a free kick outside?!? More concerning is the fact that this 3 home losses out of the last 4 home games. Fortress VP no more.
But how are we expected to keep such a fine record when we lose 3 vital players? We have no way of replacing them so surely this dip in form is fully expected, hence our dismay at the injuries?
We are in a shitty run but need to ride it out until SJM and Youri are back. They are not the be all and end all but fuck me they help.
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Won’t see Tielemans for another two months.
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However, it's worrying how often we've looked shit for weeks now.
It’s not surprising or rocket science is it? Any team in the world losing the players we’ve lost in midfield, would seriously affect their performance and probably mood in the camp.
Then losing Cash, who’s arguably our player of the season, is yet another massive blow.
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Everything went in our favour except the stupidity of a goalkeeper. Our goal was offside, they should have had a penalty, digne was lucky not to be sent off. What gets into these keepers brains, just do not foul, if they score we still have eleven players on the pitch. We were well into the game before the sending off, just a clown show.
you'd have thought we would have learnt that lesson from losing CL football for the same thing at Old Trafford...brainless. Fortress Villa Park has turned into wet cardboard
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There's far bigger fish to fry this season, if we want to progress further, we have to get champions league football next year.
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That was shocking why can't we route 1 shit teams like Arsenal and Brentford do? Newcastle are a shit team BTW
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No complaints. Brainless at times. I’ve complained about some if the decisions going against this season but my god the ref had a shocker for us today. First goal offside, Digne should probably have been sent off and then he clearly handles inside the box but the officials give a free kick outside?!? More concerning is the fact that this 3 home losses out of the last 4 home games. Fortress VP no more.
But how are we expected to keep such a fine record when we lose 3 vital players? We have no way of replacing them so surely this dip in form is fully expected, hence our dismay at the injuries?
We are in a shitty run but need to ride it out until SJM and Youri are back. They are not the be all and end all but fuck me they help.
Because we have to. What other choice do we have. Onana, Barkley and Dougie whilst not at the same level are more than adequate alternatives. We should be more than capable of taking of taking more than zero points at home against Everton and brentford.
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Hopefully Cash back for Leeds and SJM for Wolves.
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Brilliant. We gave up Kamara and a title challenge for that cup ‘run.’
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Bottle job Villa again
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Brilliant. We gave up Kamara and a title challenge for that cup ‘run.’
Injuries can happen any time any place. That’s a ridiculous thing to say.
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That was shocking why can't we route 1 shit teams like Arsenal and Brentford do? Newcastle are a shit team BTW
We don't have the pace like those teams do, but we were playing it long and getting the results in the first half. Second half we only had Tammy to aim at for most of it which played into Newcastle's hands.
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What a knob bizot is
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Disappointing as we played quite well first half, best football for weeks and Bailey, Tammy had really good chances to go 2 up. But game changed on red and some kamikaze plays. Thought Emery made a mess of our tactical setup with 10, two up top was insanity with likes of Barkley blowing a gasket in midfield. Never gave us a chance.
Positives for me were our three returnees. Barkley got much needed minutes in his legs. Bogarde solid against Barnes and Lindelof very good again. Negatives, Bizot's moment of madness aside, Digne was appalling and should have been sent off. Not sure about Torres form either. Buendia poor off the bench.
Bizot 0 - killed us
Bogarde 6 - crazy pass at end spoiled a fine defensive performance v Barnes
Lindelof 8 - very good yet again, not sure he should be fourth choice CB
Torres 5 - distribution very meh, not sure about him at all currently
Digne 1 - poor even before that crazy tackle on Murphy, more refereeing incompetence denied them a penalty, looked utterly finished
Onana 6 - average enough first half but did try hard in second. Limited on ball as ever
Luiz 7 - outstanding first half I thought, beggars belief a player this good couldn't make Forest team. Tired as expected in second
Bailey 7 - divided opinions when on pitch, crazy decision to go for a cross field pass that led to red card but up to then I was impressed. Direct, good touch, strong on ball, poor decision making but kept trying to do the right thing. Missed a bit of a sitter but positive signs for me. Awful decision to hook him first
Rogers 6 - really good first half out on the left for a change. Needed a lot more from him after half time but should have been left where he was
Abraham 7 - very good first half, fortunate goal but hold up play, touch and workrate caused problems and might have got him starting spot v Leeds
Barkley 4 - in need of the run to put it mildly, should have gone first. Will benefit from it
Difficult for any sub to get into it, Sancho showed some nice touches in that inoffensive manner of his. Disappointed in Buendia. Good that we got likes of Tammy, Luiz and Rogers off the pitch relatively early.
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No complaints. Brainless at times. I’ve complained about some if the decisions going against this season but my god the ref had a shocker for us today. First goal offside, Digne should probably have been sent off and then he clearly handles inside the box but the officials give a free kick outside?!? More concerning is the fact that this 3 home losses out of the last 4 home games. Fortress VP no more.
But how are we expected to keep such a fine record when we lose 3 vital players? We have no way of replacing them so surely this dip in form is fully expected, hence our dismay at the injuries?
We are in a shitty run but need to ride it out until SJM and Youri are back. They are not the be all and end all but fuck me they help.
Because we have to. What other choice do we have. Onana, Barkley and Dougie whilst not at the same level are more than adequate alternatives. We should be more than capable of taking of taking more than zero points at home against Everton and brentford.
Absolutely we should but there were two appalling decisions that didn't help, no one said a word but when something goes in our favour it's a travesty.
Tonight was a missed opportunity because of some brainless play but we are still in a good position in the other two competitions.
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Think I’d rather lose to the Blues than that shower of ******.
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Bizot can fuck off tonight. Scandalous.
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Ah well, the FA Cup misery continues. Onwards….
Just a particularly frustrating and unnecessary way to go out though!
As you say, onwards...
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Why can’t we play like that against ten men?
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Think I’d rather lose to the Blues than that shower of ******.
Steady on!
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No complaints. Brainless at times. I’ve complained about some if the decisions going against this season but my god the ref had a shocker for us today. First goal offside, Digne should probably have been sent off and then he clearly handles inside the box but the officials give a free kick outside?!? More concerning is the fact that this 3 home losses out of the last 4 home games. Fortress VP no more.
But how are we expected to keep such a fine record when we lose 3 vital players? We have no way of replacing them so surely this dip in form is fully expected, hence our dismay at the injuries?
We are in a shitty run but need to ride it out until SJM and Youri are back. They are not the be all and end all but fuck me they help.
Because we have to. What other choice do we have. Onana, Barkley and Dougie whilst not at the same level are more than adequate alternatives. We should be more than capable of taking of taking more than zero points at home against Everton and brentford.
Absolutely we should but there were two appalling decisions that didn't help, no one said a word but when something goes in our favour it's a travesty.
Tonight was a missed opportunity because of some brainless play but we are still in a good position in the other two competitions.
More than two appalling decisions as I’ve banged on about for awhile. We got the decisions go in favour today and still made a royal mess of taking advantage of them.
I’d rather have had the three points from the league match against them rather than progress in the cup. Our current squad can’t compete on 3 fronts.
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Brilliant. We gave up Kamara and a title challenge for that cup ‘run.’
That argument says we should have played the u18s in case any first teamers got injured. It’s painful to lose but our issue is squad depth, not individual injuries.
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We were fine until Bailey did his Bambi on Ice impression (he falls over a lot, doesn't he?) and Bizot basically threw the game.
They should fine him a month's wages for that, it was utterly moronic.
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Tonali stepped up for them today. We need our fifty million man in midfield to dominate games. He’s been ok, but like Unai says, we need more ..
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Agree with most of Brontes ratings here apart from Torres who was a 3 or 4 maximum, absolutely dreadful.
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Never winning that after we went down to 10 men. We just hadn't got the players out there capable of scrapping out a result in those circumstances.
Obviously disappointed but if I'm totally honest, after the semi-final trip to Wembley last year and the importance of the other two competitions we're in, I can't say I'm devastated tonight. I don't like it at all, but we are in a footballing world where finishing 5th in the Premier League is a bigger prize than the domestic cup competitons.
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Why can’t we play like that against ten men?
Because we don't get a lucky deflection. If the Tammy goal had been given against Brentford and it was 1-1, I reckon we could have gone on and won. Before then Newcastle were having as much luck breaking us down we were against Brentford with that goal being their first on target.
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Agree with most of Brontes ratings here apart from Torres who was a 3 or 4 maximum, absolutely dreadful.
Not sure what he did wrong defensively to only earn a 3 or 4.
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All of the pivotal moments in the game (from a Villa viewpoint) came from mistakes by us - individually and collectively.
Red card Bailey’s no look pass to their defender lead to the through ball ending in Bizot's card.
Equaliser. Burns shoved Onana out of the way, allowing him to head the free-kick back to the edge of our box - nobody patrolling the D and we were too slow closing on Tonali.
2nd goal- we allow a cross - no pressure on the ball. Poor header out by Bogarde into a dangerous area. Then their midfielder is able to control the ball (unchallenged), pass it to Tonali (unmarked) who drills it bottom corner.
3rd goal Bogarde's daft pass, followed by two tackles, both of which just pushed the ball the wrong way.
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Brilliant. We gave up Kamara and a title challenge for that cup ‘run.’
That argument says we should have played the u18s in case any first teamers got injured. It’s painful to lose but our issue is squad depth, not individual injuries.
Kamara is irreplaceable no matter our squad depth, he should not be risked in the FA Cup as long as we have something to play for in the league or we are out of Europe. I will die on that hill.
I probably would have played the U18s too personally given the rare opportunity to go for the league, but I concede that is more controversial.
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I knew the moment that Bizot got sent off the day was done.
Sadly the debacle was at home and in front of a TV audience.
A little concerned as to how we actually get ourselves organised to sustain a PL place.
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Unai obviously has no interest in the FA Cup and it showed.
He sent out a strong side. He didn’t look gutted when we scored. He didn’t tell Bizot to be an idiot and get sent off.
Yeah don’t agree with that. Considering the injuries that was a strong side. Many said after the last league match to play Tammy and Ross and we missed the passing of Torres.
Replacing Tammy with Watkins was a clear as you'll find demonstration he'd given up.
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Brilliant. We gave up Kamara and a title challenge for that cup ‘run.’
That argument says we should have played the u18s in case any first teamers got injured. It’s painful to lose but our issue is squad depth, not individual injuries.
Kamara is irreplaceable no matter our squad depth, he should not be risked in the FA Cup as long as we have something to play for in the league or we are out of Europe. I will die on that hill.
I probably would have played the U18s too personally given the rare opportunity to go for the league, but I concede that is more controversial.
Gets my vote
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Why can’t we play like that against ten men?
We don’t have pace and we don’t adapt our approach when the opposition have 10 men.
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Why can’t we play like that against ten men?
Because we don't get a lucky deflection. If the Tammy goal had been given against Brentford and it was 1-1, I reckon we could have gone on and won. Before then Newcastle were having as much luck breaking us down we were against Brentford with that goal being their first on target.
He got the lucky deflection because he was prepared to shoot from outside the box whereas against Brentford Torres passed to konsa who passed it back then or passed to either bailey or cash at no time did anyone think i know ill try shooting for a change..
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All of the pivotal moments in the game (from a Villa viewpoint) came from mistakes by us - individually and collectively.
Red card Bailey’s no look pass to their defender lead to the through ball ending in Bizot's card.
Equaliser. Burns shoved Onana out of the way, allowing him to head the free-kick back to the edge of our box - nobody patrolling the D and we were too slow closing on Tonali.
2nd goal- we allow a cross - no pressure on the ball. Poor header out by Bogarde into a dangerous area. Then their midfielder is able to control the ball (unchallenged), pass it to Tonali (unmarked) who drills it bottom corner.
3rd goal Bogarde's daft pass, followed by two tackles, both of which just pushed the ball the wrong way.
Buendia was piss poor for the second and not great for the third either. Throw himself in front of that ball and we get a free out. Torres soft as shite on tackle. That utter donkey scoring put the tin hat on it
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I know it sounds a bit like a crazy conspiracy theory but I can’t help thinking that the officials wanted to prove that VAR was needed. Tammy was offside , Digne should have walked for that challenge. He was well inside the area They should have had a penalty. Three massive mistakes we would have been fuming if they were against us. Seems like they totally depend on VAR refereeing the game. We were struggling after we went down to 10.
Not too disappointing to be out of the Cup. CL qualification is really important along with Conference.
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Agree with most of Brontes ratings here apart from Torres who was a 3 or 4 maximum, absolutely dreadful.
Not sure what he did wrong defensively to only earn a 3 or 4.
Nothing. However, I disagree on Bogarde he made two errors for two of the goals.
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I'm gutted tonight...it was there on a plate for us with the lead... Bizots totally ferked that from every sense.. I'm totally with Brontë.. couldn't for the life of me understand the structure and balance we come out with in the second half...we rarely play 2 up front and it left us struggling to support the full backs, and they're a team that loves to get wide and put pressure there... getting off train at new st.. better cheer up as off to meet Mrs Cat....
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Why can’t we play like that against ten men?
Because we don't get a lucky deflection. If the Tammy goal had been given against Brentford and it was 1-1, I reckon we could have gone on and won. Before then Newcastle were having as much luck breaking us down we were against Brentford with that goal being their first on target.
He got the lucky deflection because he was prepared to shoot from outside the box whereas against Brentford Torres passed to konsa who passed it back then or passed to either bailey or cash at no time did anyone think i know ill try shooting for a change..
We 27 shots. Rogers was trying to get the ball onto the roof of the stand a couple of times and others were not much better.
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That was a huge fuck up all round.
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Unai obviously has no interest in the FA Cup and it showed.
He sent out a strong side. He didn’t look gutted when we scored. He didn’t tell Bizot to be an idiot and get sent off.
Yeah don’t agree with that. Considering the injuries that was a strong side. Many said after the last league match to play Tammy and Ross and we missed the passing of Torres.
Replacing Tammy with Watkins was a clear as you'll find demonstration he'd given up.
Not sure about that. Watkins should have been clean through, all down to how he pressed well and won the ball, but the ref gave a free kick.
Someone text me when we brought on Ollie and said it was a good sub, so it’s certainly a matter of opinion.
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Agree with most of Brontes ratings here apart from Torres who was a 3 or 4 maximum, absolutely dreadful.
Not sure what he did wrong defensively to only earn a 3 or 4.
Nothing. However, I disagree on Bogarde he made two errors for two of the goals.
I must have been mistaken when at least 4 of his clearances just sailed aimlessly into touch. He constantly played Digne into trouble whenever we tried to play out and a few times he looked incredibly timid with any higher ball towards him. He’s either carrying knock or is grossly out of form.
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I'm gutted tonight...it was there on a plate for us with the lead... Bizots totally ferked that from every sense.. I'm totally with Brontë.. couldn't for the life of me understand the structure and balance we come out with in the second half...we rarely play 2 up front and it left us struggling to support the full backs, and they're a team that loves to get wide and put pressure there... getting off train at new st.. better cheer up as off to meet Mrs Cat....
Clear as mud after that performance that modern refs and linos have no idea how to ref a game without the support/crutch/smokescreen of VAR.
If we'd have made it through tonight, then the Jaudis would (quite rightly) have had a lot to complain about.
The lino must have been daydreaming to miss Tammy being offside.
Digne's foul was borderline red.
Bizot's DOGSO red - really,? We had 2 or 3 defenders goalside.
Digne handball - was it a pen - could be argued either way that his arms were in a natural/unnatural position.
For their equaliser Burns pushed Onana to the ground before heading it back.
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I know it sounds a bit like a crazy conspiracy theory but I can’t help thinking that the officials wanted to prove that VAR was needed.
I doubrt they went "lets prove we need VAR", more this is just what matches used to be like without VAR. Sometimes offsides weren't given. Even in todays game the Digne challenge is given as a yellow 9/10 with VAR maybe correcting it 5 times out of 10. Just general incompetence from the ref for the handball, although I wonder if he would have been as quick to give it if he thought Digne was in the box.
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Given the manager's professionalism, our gormlessness beggars belief sometimes.
1-0 up in the last minute of the 1st half and we effectively lose the game within 30 seconds flat with 1. a ludicrous attempted Hollywood ball from Bailey 2. literally no-one at the back from their resultant pass and 3. Bizot's Hong Kong Phooey impression.
It's Keystone Kops stuff sometimes, absolutely witless.
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Pathetic, Bizot judgement to come out that far was yet another Villa goalkeeping moment of madness, what was he thinking, I thought the next massive mistake was taking Bailey off, we lost all attacking pressure on the right side surely Unai couldn't have believed we was going to defend deep for the whole of the 2nd half and survive, down to ten men you have to find a way to keep attacking, thought Barclay was almost invisible, thought Rogers was absolutely incredible in the first half, thought the link play between Rogers, Tammy and Bailey was very good.
Great pity because we can't foul up Europe now we have to win that.
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One moment of madness cost us. We were comfortable with 11 but with 10 never a chance. Midfield absolutely knackered with nothing off the bench really.
Luiz isn’t up to scratch yet, Onana appears scared to get injured and that’s all we have there for now as Barkley isn’t match fit.
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Bailey 7 - divided opinions when on pitch, crazy decision to go for a cross field pass that led to red card but up to then I was impressed. Direct, good touch, strong on ball, poor decision making but kept trying to do the right thing. Missed a bit of a sitter but positive signs for me. Awful decision to hook him first
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Most of your scores were reasonable, Bronte, but this is just wrongheaded. Bailey, despite trying to do the right things, was awful. And, he was bound to be hooked after Bizot's madness.
Our search for a right-sided midfield-winger continues.
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Annoying mistakes to lose the game, but hey! The DOW is over 50,000!
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Bailey 7 - divided opinions when on pitch, crazy decision to go for a cross field pass that led to red card but up to then I was impressed. Direct, good touch, strong on ball, poor decision making but kept trying to do the right thing. Missed a bit of a sitter but positive signs for me. Awful decision to hook him first
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Most of your scores were reasonable, Bronte, but this is just wrongheaded. Bailey, despite trying to do the right things, was awful. And, he was bound to be hooked after Bizot's madness.
Our search for a right-sided midfield-winger continues.
McGinn is back in a week or two. Agree to disagree on Bailey, our shape went to bits after he went off. At least he can run, Barkley can't.
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Annoying mistakes to lose the game, but hey! The DOW is over 50,000!
I don’t think it is.
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I thought Bailey was ok and he is one of the few players we have with pace - which we needed.
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I thought Bailey was ok and he is one of the few players we have with pace - which we needed.
If he has pace, he rarely uses it. He tends to zig zag, turn in etc. Never pushes the ball forward and try and beat the man, like a true winger does
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Why can’t we play like that against ten men?
We don’t have pace and we don’t adapt our approach when the opposition have 10 men.
Yes, compare our slow approach against Brentford's 10. You don't necessarily have to have a lot of pace, but you do have to play more quickly to stretch the opposition, which is what Newcastle were doing.
Also we didn't play very well with 10 tonight. Compare with Brentford again, where they maintained shape, closed down and blocked and cleared into less dangerous areas.
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Interesting reading th thread. I was in K5 and unanimously people were blaming Bailey for a shite pass for the red card. No excuse for it in injury time just hoof it back in. I haven’t seen the incident r back but thought Bizot came out too far too quickly.
Until the red card I thought they were toothless and didn’t bother us at all. That moment of idiocy cost us the game.
Really annoyed we couldn’t hold out longer down to 10 men when Brentford did a job on us for longer away from home, albeit aided by some poor decision making.
I was in K5 and atmosphere was excellent for most of the game, particularly beginning of second half to support the team, though lost belief after their second. You could barely hear Newcastle fans until their equaliser- poor for 6k fans.
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It’s a poor pass from Bailey, but we should never be so exposed in that situation given the state of the game.
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I thought Bailey was ok and he is one of the few players we have with pace - which we needed.
If he has pace, he rarely uses it. He tends to zig zag, turn in etc. Never pushes the ball forward and try and beat the man, like a true winger does
He plays on the wrong side so is always looking to slow down and cut inside on his stronger foot, he rarely gets to build up a head of steam. Although I think he is slower than he was.
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Given our injuries - I can live with this. Was a shame as looked really comfortable first half. Also slightly nervous that our home form seems to have gone (that said this game was a strange one!)
Was impressed with Tammy, Dougie, and even Bailey first half (Not a lot came on from Bailey - but he is undoubtably better than Guessard). Also thought Bogarde was good - despite the errors - he's having to carry a lot at the moment. Was disapointed with Digne - who put in his worse performance for us.
Bizot has been a great signing, but a fucking streaker would have handled that situation better.
Thought Linderloff and Pau were good. The midfield is so key to the way we play - and thought they were good in the first half. But they tired second half (understandably) and we didnt really have options. Think Sancho is looking sharpe - and did a few good things - interested to see how the rest of the season plays out because he could be a good signing if he finds his best form.
The FA cup is the one I have always wanted us to win, but understand that us getting CL football is a bigger and better achievement. So with that said - ill take this if we take 3 points against leeds next week.
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Shit decisions by us
Shit opposition
Shit officiating
Glad I went to the effort of swapping out of my shift this evening...
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It’s a poor pass from Bailey, but we should never be so exposed in that situation given the state of the game.
100% - bad pass but we couldnt have messed up the next 10 seconds more if we tried.
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Can’t play without a midfield. Dougie and Onana have shown they are hopeless and this cant go on. It puts the defence under pressure and gives us no control in home matches.
I would definitely take anything we can for Onana in the summer!
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Emery is clearly not arsed about the FA Cup. Some of the fringe players are clearly not up to it.
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Pretty calamitous really.
Newcastle had offered little up until Bizot went bananas. Don't understand why we got caught out like that in the first place.
Digne lucky to still be on the pitch my then though.
Positives? We won't capitulate in the semi final at Wembley this time. And we got through the game with no injuries, I think.
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Im ok with Onnana and Luiz. I think both currently struggle to do 90 minutes but think they are comfortably better than most midfields.
Tonali was excellent I thought, and is one of the best midfielders in the league.
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Emery is clearly not arsed about the FA Cup. Some of the fringe players are clearly not up to it.
Twaddle.
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Can’t play without a midfield. Dougie and Onana have shown they are hopeless and this cant go on.
And we are now totally reliant on them.
The alternatives are Barkley and Bogarde.
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Bizot, Marco Bizot, Marco Bizot, what a 42 carrot plonker.
1st option should have been to run back to his goal line defenders were running back, 2nd option was to try and push him wide but he choose the 3rd option to be stupid
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Unai obviously has no interest in the FA Cup and it showed.
Nah, we're just playing shite at the moment regardless of competition.
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Can’t play without a midfield. Dougie and Onana have shown they are hopeless and this cant go on. It puts the defence under pressure and gives us no control in home matches.
I would definitely take anything we can for Onana in the summer!
First half we were doing well against them with that midfield, albeit some silly mistakes. Second half Luiz and Barkley tired but Onana came into it well stopping their attacks, defending aerial balls and winning challenges in and around the box and made a tremedous run up the pitch with no one following to support him, especially with Roger down, so "won" a freekick.
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Emery is clearly not arsed about the FA Cup. Some of the fringe players are clearly not up to it.
Absolute bollocks from you. Bailey making a poor pass and Bizot making a stupid tackle 40 yards out has got fuck all to do with Unai.
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It was pretty much the strongest team he could put our bar Konsa and Lindy did really well in that position. But Unai obviously doesn't care for it.
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Emery is clearly not arsed about the FA Cup. Some of the fringe players are clearly not up to it.
Absolute bollocks from you. Bailey making a poor pass and Bizot making a stupid tackle 40 yards out has got fuck all to do with Unai.
He picked exactly the team I’d have picked. It was strong enough to beat that shower. Unless someone believes Unai asked Bizot to lose his brain then I don’t see how the manager can be blamed.
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I don’t think we should be too harsh on Bogarde. He’s not a right back.
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The team picked was fine. Bizot’s decision was terrible, but we were poor with 10 men. Individual failings lost us the game, rather than amazing Newcastle play. Also just generally we look really predictable and poor going forward at the moment - I know we’ve got injuries, but we are really lacking coherence and ideas.
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My theory is the officials totally forgot VAR wasn’t available and just switched off.
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At least we don't have to watch the draw now. Thank heaven for small mercies.
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Strange game, terrible officiating. Digne's tackle was a red, Abraham's goal was offside, Digne's handball was a yard inside the box, Bizot's headrush was childlike. We didn't create a lot in either half to be fair. Harvey Barnes is a diving cretin. Tonali was the difference between the sides, his second was a cracker. I hate losing but had we have won tonight, it would have felt like a travesty with the piss poor refereeing. Maatsen in the centre of midfield? Weird one but I guess we needed some energy in there and Kone wasn't trusted by Unai. Back to the league and finishing in the top five.
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Good riddance, what has the FA Cup done for us this season other than depriving us of one of our most important players.
Now focus on getting into theCL because that is the most important thing for where we are right now.
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Good riddance, what has the FA Cup done for us this season other than depriving us of one of our most important players.
Now focus on getting into theCL because that is the most important thing for where we are right now.
No, no and no. Better or best teams win the cups as proven over the last 30 plus years. CL qualification is not the most important thing, winning trophies is.
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Emery is clearly not arsed about the FA Cup. Some of the fringe players are clearly not up to it.
Absolute bollocks from you. Bailey making a poor pass and Bizot making a stupid tackle 40 yards out has got fuck all to do with Unai.
It’s not a criticism. I think he views it as our third priority and the team selection reflects that - it’s probably the right call given our injuries and league position. And you’ve just referenced game changing errors from two fringe players.
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They wanted it a lot more than us.
We were lucky it was only 3-1.
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Im ok with Onnana and Luiz. I think both currently struggle to do 90 minutes but think they are comfortably better than most midfields.
Tonali was excellent I thought, and is one of the best midfielders in the league.
Correct, and correct.
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Im ok with Onnana and Luiz. I think both currently struggle to do 90 minutes but think they are comfortably better than most midfields.
Tonali was excellent I thought, and is one of the best midfielders in the league.
Correct, and correct.
Agreed. The problem for Doug and Onana is there obviously isn’t much to support them right now. Barkley hopefully benefits from the minutes, but it’s a tough ask on them - particularly Doug given his last 18 months.
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Can’t play without a midfield. Dougie and Onana have shown they are hopeless and this cant go on. It puts the defence under pressure and gives us no control in home matches.
I would definitely take anything we can for Onana in the summer!
Onana was ok tonight and I'm not his biggest fan. Dougie was very good in first half. Emery sold the midfield out when we went down to 10, not a night for criticising them.
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Emery is clearly not arsed about the FA Cup. Some of the fringe players are clearly not up to it.
Absolute bollocks from you. Bailey making a poor pass and Bizot making a stupid tackle 40 yards out has got fuck all to do with Unai.
It’s not a criticism. I think he views it as our third priority and the team selection reflects that - it’s probably the right call given our injuries and league position. And you’ve just referenced game changing errors from two fringe players.
Yes I agree its not Unai's top priority but today it wasn't the reason we lost.
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When the equaliser went in my wife said "that was inevitable wasn't it..."
The lad and I stared at her as she never takes any notice of matches and she stared back as surprised as we were.
The whole thing was a (Jim Rose) circus from the 14th minute.
Anyway win the Europa thing and finish in a Champions League place please.
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Brilliant. We gave up Kamara and a title challenge for that cup ‘run.’
Cheap comment.
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Brilliant. We gave up Kamara and a title challenge for that cup ‘run.’
Cheap comment.
Yes. Someone else would say just fuck off but obviously not me.