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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on January 19, 2026, 10:35:14 PM
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McGinn:
Onana:
Kamara:
Anyone I've missed that is still out of action?
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Alysson
Barkley
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Ta.
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Can we have a thread - this one? - that reports on all injuries, rather than updates going on the players’ threads?
It’s depressing but easier to follow imo.
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Yes. This one.
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Going to be easy isn’t it ?
All out for ever.
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Sancho.
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Knowing whos injured is the easy part it's accurate information on how bad the injury is and how long they will be out is the hard part.
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Sancho.
He only had a cold.
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For what its worth, a boke on twitter said he bumped into McGinn who said he's got no chance for Thursday but is moving ok.
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For what its worth, a boke on twitter said he bumped into McGinn who said he's got no chance for Thursday but is moving ok.
In Villa speak, that means two months out then.
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I guess we’ll be hearing more when Unai does his Europa press conference tomorrow?
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Can we have a thread - this one? - that reports on all injuries, rather than updates going on the players’ threads?
It’s depressing but easier to follow imo.
I've always wondered what the maximum number of posts on a single thread was.
Guess now I'll find out.
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Consensus on Sunday was it was a meniscus tear for SJM.
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It would be good to put the source(s) of any updates so we can see how valid they are?
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Consensus on Sunday was it was a meniscus tear for SJM.
Which would see him out a couple of months minimum?
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Consensus on Sunday was it was a meniscus tear for SJM.
Which would see him out a couple of months minimum?
Depends what grade of tear it is. I'm only going off what my brother briefly mentioned last night when he saw this (he toyed with being a sports physician), he said a grade 1 tear wouldn't be too bad, perhaps 1-4 weeks.
Who knows though. He had a scan yesterday and someone who met him at the Hospital posted a pic somewhere. Looked in good spirits and wasn't on crutches, though that doesn't mean a great deal.
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C’mon Villa we need replacements, pull something out the bag.
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If Kamara and SJM are out for a long spell we are in deep shit.
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Nothing on SJM yet - scan yesterday. From the same source as the Kamara news.
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Yeh just wait until that news breaks and it’s inevitably worse than we hope. This place will be broken.
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Sancho.
He only had a cold.
Might be back for the final game of the season, then.
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Consensus on Sunday was it was a meniscus tear for SJM.
Which would see him out a couple of months minimum?
Depends what grade of tear it is. I'm only going off what my brother briefly mentioned last night when he saw this (he toyed with being a sports physician), he said a grade 1 tear wouldn't be too bad, perhaps 1-4 weeks.
Who knows though. He had a scan yesterday and someone who met him at the Hospital posted a pic somewhere. Looked in good spirits and wasn't on crutches, though that doesn't mean a great deal.
Meniscal tears aren't graded. If it is a meniscal tear, a repair will mean several months out. But the whole idea of him having a meniscus injury seems to have arisen from someone on here once tearing their meniscus. On that basis, he could have chickenpox because I did once.
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Give him an iron bru, he'll be fine. Can't lose him and Kamara for a number of games, we'd be screwed.
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Consensus on Sunday was it was a meniscus tear for SJM.
That was from a (non football side)club director 90 mins after game.Via medical team.
But their first impression and best guess themselves. Scan will reveal all I guess
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Depending on the severity of the meniscus tear it is usually only a few weeks out. Clean up, rest and recovery. Still woudl be shit to lose him on the back of the Kamara news.
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Depending on the severity of the meniscus tear it is usually only a few weeks out. Clean up, rest and recovery. Still woudl be shit to lose him on the back of the Kamara news.
Not these days.
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Depending on the severity of the meniscus tear it is usually only a few weeks out. Clean up, rest and recovery. Still woudl be shit to lose him on the back of the Kamara news.
Not these days.
Well not at Aston Villa. It's usually a career finisher.
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Depending on the severity of the meniscus tear it is usually only a few weeks out. Clean up, rest and recovery. Still woudl be shit to lose him on the back of the Kamara news.
Not these days.
Well not at Aston Villa. It's usually a career finisher.
Since the late 90s, they've repaired tears in the red vascular zone which is a lot longer rehab. In the 90s, they just used to trim them which is why Ally McCoist crazily played the day after. In the 70s and 80s, they used to whip them out completely which is what finished Gary Shaw's career.
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Consensus on Sunday was it was a meniscus tear for SJM.
That was from a (non football side)club director 90 mins after game.Via medical team.
But their first impression and best guess themselves. Scan will reveal all I guess
Fair enough. Apologies. Mensical tears are pretty easy to diagnose without a scan so it could well be that then.
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Consensus on Sunday was it was a meniscus tear for SJM.
Which would see him out a couple of months minimum?
Depends what grade of tear it is. I'm only going off what my brother briefly mentioned last night when he saw this (he toyed with being a sports physician), he said a grade 1 tear wouldn't be too bad, perhaps 1-4 weeks.
Who knows though. He had a scan yesterday and someone who met him at the Hospital posted a pic somewhere. Looked in good spirits and wasn't on crutches, though that doesn't mean a great deal.
Meniscal tears aren't graded. If it is a meniscal tear, a repair will mean several months out. But the whole idea of him having a meniscus injury seems to have arisen from someone on here once tearing their meniscus. On that basis, he could have chickenpox because I did once.
They're graded based on MRI details, or at least that's what a quick google suggests.
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Yes, but using that classification, grades 1 and 2 aren't true tears.
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Good news. Ivo Stas is back in training.
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No worries !!
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As a consultant who specialises in these kind of injuries, I can confidently say his season is over.
*I’m not really a medical professional but I feel left out as everyone else on here seems to be one.
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Hey Doc, what's this rash please?
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As a consultant who specialises in these kind of injuries, I can confidently say his season is over.
*I’m not really a medical professional but I feel left out as everyone else on here seems to be one.
I am a medical professional specialising in sports medicine but can't be bothered to keep explaining why I am every time someone questions it, so I'm going to leave this thread and obsessively refresh the Mateta one on VillaTalk instead and have more fun.
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As a consultant who specialises in these kind of injuries, I can confidently say his season is over.
*I’m not really a medical professional but I feel left out as everyone else on here seems to be one.
I am a medical professional specialising in sports medicine but can't be bothered to keep explaining why I am every time someone questions it, so I'm going to leave this thread and obsessively refresh the Mateta one on VillaTalk instead and have more fun.
Is that place still all red ink and angry mods? I haven’t been on for about 10 years.
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You could always give the tumbleweeds a clean out at TBAR.
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Consensus on Sunday was it was a meniscus tear for SJM.
Who did this consensus include?
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As a consultant who specialises in these kind of injuries, I can confidently say his season is over.
*I’m not really a medical professional but I feel left out as everyone else on here seems to be one.
I am a medical professional specialising in sports medicine but can't be bothered to keep explaining why I am every time someone questions it, so I'm going to leave this thread and obsessively refresh the Mateta one on VillaTalk instead and have more fun.
Please contribute , you’re literally the perfect person to comment ! I guess we should know what it actually is first ( and I’m as bad for saying what was said on the evening ).
As an aside , I actually have had 3 meniscus tears. I’m
Hoping and expecting an elite footballer probably gets better rehab in 2026 than I did in 2004 😂
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Consensus on Sunday was it was a meniscus tear for SJM.
Who did this consensus include?
What the medical team had passed back to the bosses. So very much a best guess on the info at the time.
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Consensus on Sunday was it was a meniscus tear for SJM.
Who did this consensus include?
Probably aldridgeboy and Brownhillslass, however I have heard the two tribes don't get on.
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We don’t venture to those parts !!!
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Someone said to me this morning that apparently it was the back of the knee. I said then that it was probably a meniscus tear. There's 8 types, most of which don't need surgery. If that's the case, probably 4-8 weeks.
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Unai Emery says John McGinn could be sidelined for "some weeks", but the #AVFC captain will continue to be assessed in hope that he can recover quicker.
"We are still waiting because he is still visiting some doctors to have a decision what to do."
Emi Martinez has not travelled to Turkey with his Aston Villa teammates to play against Fenerbahce.
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Shouldn't this thread be renamed "The fucking depressing season killer" thread??
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Better then 'some months', I suppose...
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It's a similar line as the initial Kamara assessment isn't it? So I'm fully expecting the season ending announcement to come next week.
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What's the news on Barclay does anyone know?
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What's the news on Barclay does anyone know?
He was sitting in the same kind of area as me on Sunday, a bloke asked how long he was out for and he did that very French gesture of pushing the corners of his mouth down, holding his hand with his palm down and wobbling his hand.
Does that answer your question?
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Yes, in french that usually says Je n'en sais pas plus que vous.
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That's the French response to every question.
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What's the news on Barclay does anyone know?
Not too far off I think. Posted an Instagram story a few days back of him in training with the heading 'Soon'.
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Emery said he was slightly behind Onana.
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What's the news on Barclay does anyone know?
Not too far off I think. Posted an Instagram story a few days back of him in training with the heading 'Soon'.
In that case we can add his return to Tammy Abraham thread...almost done.
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Against forest, he said couple of weeks before training.
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Speaking at Friday afternoon’s pre-match press conference at Bodymoor Heath, the Villa boss said: “Of course, we will need tomorrow, how the players played yesterday will be.
“Because, after one match, often the players, they are feeling a little bit tired or something even with being painful.
“And the players they weren’t yesterday, Kamara and McGinn, they are out of course.
“McGinn, update I don’t have, because he is visiting some doctors. We’ll know his assessment in a few days. Kamara is out, of course.
“Leon Bailey, he came back as well, thinking to help us quick.
“His adaptation is not necessary. He knows us and he is coming here fit. For Sunday, he is going to be available.”
Emery also gave a positive update on Ross Barkley who, having recently returned to individual training, is close to joining back in with the group.
He added: “Barkley is training individually, but close to being with the group, maybe next week.
“Those three players (Barkley, McGinn, Kamara), at the beginning, they are not available for Sunday.
“Tomorrow we will see, other players, how they are.”
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An ominous final comment given that Bizot was assessed on the pitch and Ollie nearly had his achilles ripped out by that twat.
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6 weeks expected for McGinn
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6 weeks expected for McGinn
Thats better than expected to be honest. But knowing villa that will be 8 weeks. So hopefully back in march. We need a signing ad onana and youri could get injured and we would be in severe trouble
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Which Premier League teams have had most injuries?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c70l9y3p893o
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Barkley says "back training with the team Friday" according to a screenshot I've been sent from that website. Not sure whether that means he was back in training last Friday or will be back next Friday.
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Yeah, his English isn't great.
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Nervously waiting on Tielemans now
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Out for 'an extended period' according to Tanswell. Bugger.
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Ffs.
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Longer than McGinn...
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Honestly, when it rains it fucking pours.
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This is just too fucking incredulous now. It’s fucking awful, awful news.
FUCKING HELL !!!!!!!!!!
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Absolutely desperate news...beggars belief
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It’s devastating.
Just fuck off (I don’t know who or what) but just fuck off !!!!!!!
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What does the midfield even look like now? Bogarde, Onana and Emi B?
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What does the midfield even look like now? Bogarde, Onana and Emi B?
Bit optimistic assuming that none of them have twisted an achilles on their way into training this morning.
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It's getting silly now. I can only assume that someone on here (not SE or CD obvs) has offended the Football Gods.
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If correct thats going to be too much to deal with
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What does the midfield even look like now? Bogarde, Onana and Emi B?
I wonder if in an absolute emergency (i.e Sunday if we don't get anyone else before then) it's worth giving Rogers a go, with the instruction to just run at them from deeper rather than passing it?
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This is another reason those fucking rules are absurd. We’ve lost 3 of our best players but still can’t spend our money beyond loans (which are also tight financially).
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When are we going to hear about McGinn too? Is it months out or what?
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The boss does tend to play the fuck out of the core players. Perhaps this is to be expected.
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Hemmings, make a name for yourself mate.
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I'd been coming round to the idea that Lindelof could do a job at DM. Youri's creativity is not easily replaced though.
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When are we going to hear about McGinn too? Is it months out or what?
We already know….6 weeks
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When are we going to hear about McGinn too? Is it months out or what?
Six weeks has been reported
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Thanks, missed that. So 6 weeks from the injury itself or ‘now’?
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Not sure if that's been answered. I'd been thinking after international break but if we can find any reason to be optimistic, perhaps it will be before that.
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Lindelof, Onana, Hemmings, Barkley, Bogarde and Luiz then. Yikes.
*edited to add Bogarde, as ably pointed out to me (and hopefully to stop others doing the same!)
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Bogarde also.
So unbelievably pissed off. Every time we look to be doing something we get shafted.
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Let's think positive - the majority of Feb's games are at home. March are not the worst fixtures either - if we have McGinn and/or Youri back for April we can finish the season strongly
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Brentford are exactly the sort of twats who will kick fuck out of remaining midfielders.
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The only silver lining I can see is that Barkley, Luiz and Bailey all come in to replace the injured players purely in terms of numbers. All experienced, all have racked up a number of appearances so we're not relying on kids.
But quality wise, the three we've lost are huge misses.
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Small silver lining, at least these injuries have all happened in January.
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If we can get Luiz in and somehow Onana and Barkley can stay fit, we might have enough to survive until McGinn and Tielemans are back. How the fuck both Onana and Barkley are supposed to stay fit for two months I don't know, but they have the quality.
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Yet another tackle that went unpunished has put one of our players out of action for a lengthy spell. Joe Linton should have already been on a yellow and then two fouls in about 10 seconds. He should have been sent off.
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Thank christ there's an international break in there somewhere, as well as a break in the European fixtures after Thursday. That's a week off for a few of the lads at least.
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Our midfield has been taken out by dirty unpunished tackles. Arsenal did their best to finish Onana. Need him to stay fit, but if teams keep getting away with it, they will keep doing it.
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Surely the time for Hemmings to be given his chance?
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Small silver lining, at least these injuries have all happened in January.
At least February isn't the toughest month on paper. Could do with some of them back for Yanited away in mid-March though.
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Small silver lining, at least these injuries have all happened in January.
At least February isn't the toughest month on paper. Could do with some of them back for Yanited away in mid-March though.
McGinn possibly, Onana and Barkley might be fit again after their latest injuries next week.
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Absolutely, Onana and Barkley will be back injured by then :-\
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It's always fucking groups of injuries in the same area of the pitch isn't it?
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Yep. A literal clusterfuck.
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It's always fucking groups of injuries in the same area of the pitch isn't it?
Makes sense. Cold players having to cover the work rate, it just compounds from there. Though in this instance it's wank teams not being able to deal with transitions and just making cynical tackles. We are so, so lucky Watkins has ankles of steel.
Just looking at Barkleys injury record, it's not actually as bad as some make it out to be. He's not really been out for more then once a season since 2020 and the lions share of his time out with us was for personal reasons.
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Small silver lining, at least these injuries have all happened in January.
Even smaller silver lining, Kamara's wages won't count towards Uefa SCR (I think). Are we able to replace any more than Malen and Kamara in the European squad? It was either/or with Mings and Barkley and their injuries from what I remember, so they'd presumably take up the 3rd replacement if/when Doug and Tammy are confirmed.
Edit: forgot about Bailey, so as I understand it someone has to miss out.
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What’s actually wrong with Tielemans?
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What does the midfield even look like now? Bogarde, Onana and Emi B?
Hopefully my next week Barkley and Doug to add something to that. Add in Hemmings and one or two other kids who may need to step in. Maybe Pau into a CM role with Mings back in. It’s far from ideal.
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Let's think positive - the majority of Feb's games are at home. March are not the worst fixtures either - if we have McGinn and/or Youri back for April we can finish the season strongly
Yep. Best thing about Unai is the no excuse culture!
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Lindelof can play DM also. Could see that happening at some point.
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What’s actually wrong with Tielemans?
Looked like a twisted ankle so most likely ligaments
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What’s actually wrong with Tielemans?
Looked like a twisted ankle so most likely ligaments
Cheers.
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Small silver lining, at least these injuries have all happened in January.
Even smaller silver lining, Kamara's wages won't count towards Uefa SCR (I think). Are we able to replace any more than Malen and Kamara in the European squad? It was either/or with Mings and Barkley and their injuries from what I remember, so they'd presumably take up the 3rd replacement if/when Doug and Tammy are confirmed.
Edit: forgot about Bailey, so as I understand it someone has to miss out.
Presumably we're removing Malen, Elliott and (probably) Kamara and replacing them with Abraham, Bailey and Douglas Luiz?
Or if we decide that CM is more important, replacing those three with Abraham, DL and Barkley?
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Small silver lining, at least these injuries have all happened in January.
Even smaller silver lining, Kamara's wages won't count towards Uefa SCR (I think). Are we able to replace any more than Malen and Kamara in the European squad? It was either/or with Mings and Barkley and their injuries from what I remember, so they'd presumably take up the 3rd replacement if/when Doug and Tammy are confirmed.
Edit: forgot about Bailey, so as I understand it someone has to miss out.
Presumably we're removing Malen, Elliott and (probably) Kamara and replacing them with Abraham, Bailey and Douglas Luiz?
Or if we decide that CM is more important, replacing those three with Abraham, DL and Barkley?
Remember we can also name someone and then have an injury cover for them so McGinn/Tielemans in the squad but covered by Bailey/Barkley temporarily seems the most sensible option (with the other one added permanently as part of the 3 we're allowed).
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I've just checked who started the "Injury updates" thread and now everything makes sense.
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I've just checked who started the "Injury updates" thread and now everything makes sense.
Consider yourself standingly ovated.
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What does the midfield even look like now? Bogarde, Onana and Emi B?
Hopefully my next week Barkley and Doug to add something to that. Add in Hemmings and one or two other kids who may need to step in. Maybe Pau into a CM role with Mings back in. It’s far from ideal.
Doug!!!!
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God I love this team...
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What’s actually wrong with Tielemans?
Looked like a twisted ankle so most likely ligaments
Someone posted a video of the slow mo of the tackle and it looks like Youri's ankle almost does a 150 degree spin.
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Do we have anyone else who can slide a ball from 40 yards like Tielemans? Huge loss.
Is Lindelof half-decent on the ball at least? I wonder do we use Elliott in the short term just to help... I've no confidence in Onana being fit for more than 5 games at a time.
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Do we have anyone else who can slide a ball from 40 yards like Tielemans? Huge loss.
Barkley looked pretty good at it for Luton but for me, he now looks too slow and immobile to play as protection for the back line. But I guess needs must. I'd be trusting and rotating Bogarde and Hemmings when Onana is inevitably out. Sink or swim.
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I'd be trusting and rotating Bogarde and Hemmings when Onana is inevitably out. Sink or swim.
Unless there's a good reason not to I'd definitely be giving Hemmings a good 20 minutes in every game from now on, just in case he's called on to be doing longer before too long.
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I'd be trusting and rotating Bogarde and Hemmings when Onana is inevitably out. Sink or swim.
Unless there's a good reason not to I'd definitely be giving Hemmings a good 20 minutes in every game from now on, just in case he's called on to be doing longer before too long.
Fair point. Get him comfortable, ready for when he’s needed. Big opportunity and could accelerate his worth if he is elite like people say.
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Andres Garcia is expected to be sidelined for three weeks with a hamstring injury.
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Of course he is.
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It's going to be easier soon to have a 'not injured' thread
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Garcia has only been back for 5 minutes FFS!
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Andres Garcia is expected to be sidelined for three weeks with a hamstring injury.
Flipping ‘eck.
Another made from glass.
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We know about Kamara, McGinn and Tielemans," he said at his pre-Salzburg press conference.
“Kamara is a long time, I think he’s not going to play this season. McGinn, more or less, is 6-8 weeks out, and Tielemans is 8-10 weeks out.
“After those updates of those players, we need to see how we can manage centre midfielders in the matches we are going to play."
Emery added: "Ross Barkley is coming back in a few days. He has been training individually but he's so close to joining us.
And we have George Hemmings. He is a young centre-midfielder, but he's training with us, knowing, tactically, everything we need. He has huge potential and maybe it's a moment he can help us.
“This is the reason, always, we are accepting the injured players because something can happen, and we must be ready.”
In addition to the aforementioned trio, Emery revealed Andres García will be sidelined in the short-term after picking up an injury.
And while Leon Bailey has returned to the club and Tammy Abraham has signed from Besiktas, the pair are not eligible to feature on Thursday night.
Emery said: “After the centre midfielders, Andres García is out for three weeks. He has a hamstring injury, a small injury.
“I think the other players, they are well, they are fine for tomorrow.
“Of course, they are not involved in the Europa League, Leon Bailey and Tammy Abraham. They are out, but we have enough players.”
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I reckon someone's lacing the energy drinks at BMH with arsenic.
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That news on Tielemans is beyond crap..
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8-10 weeks for Youri! So that's April. Great. If we get over the line after this it will be the greatest achievement in football history since using 14 players in 1980-81
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It makes you wish for breaks for meaningless international games to give us some free time.
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Means Matty Cash is going to have to start again on Thursday...
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Means Matty Cash is going to have to start again on Thursday...
Yeah, wtf is wrong with Garcia again? He played a few minutes in Turkey and now out for 3 weeks again.
The Tielemans news is just really crap. 8-10 weeks. He's either broken his ankle or had really bad ligament damage. Just awful luck.
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Means Matty Cash is going to have to start again on Thursday...
Guessand at right back…..
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The Tielemans news is just really crap. 8-10 weeks. He's either broken his ankle or had really bad ligament damage. Just awful luck.
There must be something wrong with me but here goes:
The mechanism of injury was forced dorsiflexion (foot pushed up) and lateral rotation (foot twisted out). This is the classic mechanism of injury for a syndesmosis sprain. If you google that, you'll see how long you need out for the varying grades of injury and that he's lucky if he's avoided surgery.
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Means Matty Cash is going to have to start again on Thursday...
Yeah, wtf is wrong with Garcia again? He played a few minutes in Turkey and now out for 3 weeks again.
The Tielemans news is just really crap. 8-10 weeks. He's either broken his ankle or had really bad ligament damage. Just awful luck.
There must be something wrong with me but here goes:
The mechanism of injury was forced dorsiflexion (foot pushed up) and lateral rotation (foot twisted out). This is the classic mechanism of injury for a syndesmosis sprain. If you google that, you'll see how long you need out for the varying grades of injury.
Well thank you for that. I won't watch injuries back on replays because I'm squeamish, so I appreciate filling in the gaps.
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The Tielemans news is just really crap. 8-10 weeks. He's either broken his ankle or had really bad ligament damage. Just awful luck.
There must be something wrong with me but here goes:
The mechanism of injury was forced dorsiflexion (foot pushed up) and lateral rotation (foot twisted out). This is the classic mechanism of injury for a syndesmosis sprain. If you google that, you'll see how long you need out for the varying grades of injury.
It looked bad in slow motion.
Surprised he didn’t break his ankle
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Unai says Garcia out for 3 weeks with hamstring. Every time this lad gets close he gets injured!
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Unai says Garcia out for 3 weeks with hamstring. Every time this lad gets close he gets injured!
He’s made of weaker stuff than Barkley!
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10 weeks is a killer.
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I reckon Lindelof will play Right Back tomorrow night based on nothing whatsoever.
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Is Matty Cash expected to be back against Leeds? We really need him back!
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I reckon Lindelof will play Right Back tomorrow night based on nothing whatsoever.
Which highlights the urgency of us recruiting a solid right back into the squad. Unai's been forced to use Lindelhoff, Konsa and Bogarde there none of which are comfortable in that position and offer very little going forward.
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Is Matty Cash expected to be back against Leeds? We really need him back!
He was expected back at training on Thurs/Friday - been no updates since last week
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I've just checked who started the "Injury updates" thread and now everything makes sense.
Consider yourself standingly ovated.
Sorry about that little misdemeanour.
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Is Matty Cash expected to be back against Leeds? We really need him back!
Indeed we do. You could say we need him right back. I'll get my coat.
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When is McGinn and Tielsmaans coming back?
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McGinn should be soon, Tielemans probably April I think.
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McGinn should be soon, Tielemans probably April I think.
Christ, I thought Tielemnas was back in March...
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McGinn should be soon, Tielemans probably April I think.
Christ, I thought Tielemnas was back in March...
10 weeks from Jan 25th is about mid-April.
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What did he do?
You would think they could grow a new leg in that time
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Not sure on the injury but it looked a bad challenge with Miley(?) going through the back of him to get the ball, so of course the ref and VAR ignored it.
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Youri will be match-fit for the final two games against Liverpool and Citeh when our fate has already been sealed.
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Youri will be match-fit for the final two games against Liverpool and Citeh when our fate has already been sealed.
Kind of player that needs a run of games too. Was only able for the bench at Old Trafford last season.
Blind optimism maybe but I'm expecting McGinn back ahead of schedule. He's going to be crucial to getting best out of Buendia, Luiz, Rogers down the stretch. Gives our midfield great balance
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McGinn should be soon, Tielemans probably April I think.
Christ, I thought Tielemnas was back in March...
10 weeks from Jan 25th is about mid-April.
Wasn’t it 8 weeks?
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I thought when the injuries were annouced, it was 8 weeks for McGinn and 10 for Youri. (going on the longest for both).
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6-8 and 8-10 were what I think were given
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I thought when the injuries were annouced, it was 8 weeks for McGinn and 10 for Youri. (going on the longest for both).
6-8 for SJM, 8-10 for Youri.
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I thought when the injuries were annouced, it was 8 weeks for McGinn and 10 for Youri. (going on the longest for both).
6-8 for SJM, 8-10 for Youri.
Let’s be optimistic and go for 6 and 8 weeks.
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So going on the longest.......
Also, even if Youri was back on 8 weeks from injury which would be the end of March, it is international weekend followed by FA Quarters with currently no PL matches planned there, so our first proper match weekend is the 11th which is almost mid-April.
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It’s still 2 weeks sooner getting his fitness up etc.
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Also, even if Youri was back on 8 weeks from injury which would be the end of March, it is international weekend followed by FA Quarters with currently no PL matches planned there, so our first proper match weekend is the 11th which is almost mid-April.
Yeah, noticed that gap when he was confirmed out for 8-10 weeks. I'd rather we didn't rush him back and that he remains "injured" for the international break. Have him raring to go for the Europa League / PL matches in April.
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McGinn should be soon, Tielemans probably April I think.
Christ, I thought Tielemnas was back in March...
10 weeks from Jan 25th is about mid-April.
Blimey! Why can't this be like a prison sentence?
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So they ain’t gonna be back before April??
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Cashy spotted in the training vid 8)
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Cashy spotted in the training vid 8)
In contention according to the OS.
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Alysson is still injured.
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Oh and Elliott is injured. Presumably putting the club Christmas decorations back in the loft.
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Elliott isn't injured. Maybe Legion needs to start a seperate "Not Liked by Emery Updates" thread.
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Or keep with this thread when updating about players who are injured.
“He is injured now. He is not available because of injury,” Emery explained when asked about Elliott’s situation.
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The only quote I had seen was
“Harvey Elliott, as well, is not available for tomorrow. The other players are available.”
If that has changed elsewhere then yes, he does need to appear here.
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Alysson is still injured.
Hmm, another "little injury" I wonder.
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Alysson is still injured.
Hmm, another "little injury" I wonder.
As frustrating as it is i would imagine coming as a boy into Prem level football, training, diet, playing etc must take a while to adapt whilst a toll on the body if not used to it
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That could account for his absence from the team sheet in the first week. But getting on for two months later? Nah. There is something slightly discordant going on. Let's hope it's not a long-term thing.
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That could account for his absence from the team sheet in the first week. But getting on for two months later? Nah. There is something slightly discordant going on. Let's hope it's not a long-term thing.
Like what?
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The most likely thing is that the intensity of training is much higher and he's finding it a lot more combative than he's used to so he's picking up a few niggles as he settles in.
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My guess is he's eating too much feijoada.
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What are Brum's Brazilian restaurants like ?
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I’ve seen him in Senhor Ovo a couple of times, having a medley of baps, batches, barm cakes, stotties and bread bubbles.
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What are Brum's Brazilian restaurants like ?
They come very close to you with that carving knife, always a change that you can pick up an injury.
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What are Brum's Brazilian restaurants like ?
They come very close to you with that carving knife, always a change that you can pick up an injury.
They only do that to greedy bastards trying to eat them out of business.
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What are Brum's Brazilian restaurants like ?
They come very close to you with that carving knife, always a change that you can pick up an injury.
Let's hope he doesn't have a coração de frango (like Bailey does).
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What are Brum's Brazilian restaurants like ?
They come very close to you with that carving knife, always a change that you can pick up an injury.
Let's hope he doesn't have a coração de frango (like Bailey does).
You don't like them, BV?
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What are Brum's Brazilian restaurants like ?
They come very close to you with that carving knife, always a change that you can pick up an injury.
Let's hope he doesn't have a coração de frango (like Bailey does).
You don't like them, BV?
On the contrary, I absolutely love them and will have 10-15 of them when I go to a churrascaria. Love some fried turkey heart and liver over Xmas as well.
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What are Brum's Brazilian restaurants like ?
They come very close to you with that carving knife, always a change that you can pick up an injury.
Let's hope he doesn't have a coração de frango (like Bailey does).
You don't like them, BV?
On the contrary, I absolutely love them and will have 10-15 of them when I go to a churrascaria. Love some fried turkey heart and liver over Xmas as well.
And I was about to say they can keep their grilled chicken hearts to themselves!
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How long for JM now?
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How long for JM now?
Next couple of weeks isn’t it? Went off in the Everton game on 18th Jan and they said 6-8 weeks so Chelsea game at the earliest, West Ham worst case or alternatively definitely back after the March international break in early April.
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How long for JM now?
Who's this JM fella you're referring to?
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He was pictures yesterday signing autographs in the stands. Not sure if that means much. He looked happy enough.
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I keep telling myself that those two will be well rested and raring to go for the run in. Onana will also be better for his break these last few games.
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What does heart taste like ?
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SJM 2-3 weeks according to his interview here
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVIn3nhAup1/?igsh=aGQ0ZXljbWw4ZGsx
(Alan Hutton’s insta if the link doesn’t work )
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Man United away then a fair chance. Maybe some minutes in the second half of the Europa League game.
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SJM 2-3 weeks according to his interview here
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVIn3nhAup1/?igsh=aGQ0ZXljbWw4ZGsx
(Alan Hutton’s insta if the link doesn’t work )
To put a slightly more optimistic twist on that, I think it was recorded earlier in the month. I think he says "it's been four weeks now", and I think it's actually been over 5. So maybe it was recorded a week or two ago? I'm not sure when his surgery was though, so maybe he's working from that, and it was recorded last night?
So, in conclusion, I have no idea when he'll be back.
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He posted on social media about his op on 27th January. [/eastie].
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What does heart taste like ?
Lambs hearts, lovely.
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What does heart taste like ?
Very sweet and fizzy with things like Hug Me and Be Mine embossed on them.
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What does heart taste like ?
Some say the heart is just like a wheel
When you bend it, you can't mend it
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Looking at the fixtures, we miss 1 Prem match without McGinn (Wolves), then it’s FA Cup weekend, maybe back for ManUre, then the Int break and very hopefully Youri back around West Ham….this is ridiculously optimistic, but we should have enough to beat them without him.
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Garcia out with a hamstring.
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Looking at the fixtures, we miss 1 Prem match without McGinn (Wolves), then it’s FA Cup weekend, maybe back for ManUre, then the Int break and very hopefully Youri back around West Ham….this is ridiculously optimistic, but we should have enough to beat them without him.
You're forgetting Chelsea next Wednesday
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Garcia out with a hamstring.
Available as often as Ivo Stas
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Looking at the fixtures, we miss 1 Prem match without McGinn (Wolves), then it’s FA Cup weekend, maybe back for ManUre, then the Int break and very hopefully Youri back around West Ham….this is ridiculously optimistic, but we should have enough to beat them without him.
You're forgetting Chelsea next Wednesday
Ah yes, apologies.
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Hamstrings like cheesestrings that kid.
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Garcia out with a hamstring.
What a waste of space.
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Positive vibes about McGinn though?
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He posted on social media about his op on 27th January. [/eastie].
Do you (eastie) know if Meathead's mum in law is going to Benidorm again this year in April? I am there and would like to catch up with her :D
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He posted on social media about his op on 27th January. [/eastie].
Do you (eastie) know if Meathead's mum in law is going to Benidorm again this year in April? I am there and would like to catch up with her :D
His mum's been suffering something terrible with her bunions so she's going to a luxury parsnip farm in Wem to be spoilt. Ltlle Viagra's got a Grade 7 bongo exam so she's staying at home, and Thor plays table tennis for his bus route so he's off to Noth Korea for a tournament. Looks like it's just you and Fleshy Gavin in the sunshine once again pal.
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Luxury Parsnip Farm in Wem. You are Greg Davies and I claim my £5.
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I am not and I claim my £5000.
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Do you (eastie) know if Meathead's mum in law is going to Benidorm again this year in April? I am there and would like to catch up with her :D
Not in April, she's booked July 11-13th.
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Need them back
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Just to add to our injury woes, Matty Cash has picked up an ankle problem. UE is hopeful John will return possibly in the next week or two.
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He giveth with one hand...
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Just to add to our injury woes, Matty Cash has picked up an ankle problem. UE is hopeful John will return possibly in the next week or two.
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Just to add to our injury woes, Matty Cash has picked up an ankle problem. UE is hopeful John will return possibly in the next week or two.
Cash hasn't looked fully fit since coming back from injury. Bogarde is definitely not the answer at right back in his absence. Konsa is going to have to move out there and hopefully rebuild his confidence a bit. Lindelof will get back in next to him.
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Just to add to our injury woes, Matty Cash has picked up an ankle problem. UE is hopeful John will return possibly in the next week or two.
Cash hasn't looked fully fit since coming back from injury. Bogarde is definitely not the answer at right back in his absence. Konsa is going to have to move out there and hopefully rebuild his confidence a bit. Lindelof will get back in next to him.
Hmmm might be a blessing. Better defensively and might re-focus some minds. Something needs a change and reverting to overloading the left - our tried and tested tactic - might be easier than Emery inventing something new.
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This weekend marks 6 weeks since Tielemans was injured.
Hopefully he is making good progress.
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If we get to the other side of the international break still in the top 5 then it will be a miracle. Not of our making, but caused by the difficulty everyone else seems to have putting a run together. With our boys coming back, refreshed and rating to go, we will get over the line.
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Just to add to our injury woes, Matty Cash has picked up an ankle problem. UE is hopeful John will return possibly in the next week or two.
Cash hasn't looked fully fit since coming back from injury. Bogarde is definitely not the answer at right back in his absence. Konsa is going to have to move out there and hopefully rebuild his confidence a bit. Lindelof will get back in next to him.
Hmmm might be a blessing. Better defensively and might re-focus some minds. Something needs a change and reverting to overloading the left - our tried and tested tactic - might be easier than Emery inventing something new.
I think Emery has a concern playing Torres and Maatsen together on that side. With Buendia or Rogers, who hardly tracked a single run last night, in front of them. I get the concern. But that's on the assumption that Mings and Digne are still defensively more solid. That assumption is flawed.
I hated Konsa at right back before but Lindelof is far better than Diego Carlos for one. Torres and Maatsen on left. Should try it v Lille anyway.
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If Cash is crocked, I wonder if we'll try Konsa on the right and Lindelof in the centre.
No offence to the lad but Bogarde looked so uncomfortable at full back last night. And he's never going to whip a ball in from the flank (then again, who does, for us?).
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It speaks volumes to our recruitment that we still don't have a fit and reliable RB option to count on. The money we paid for Nedeljkovic and Garcia could have brought us a decent enough stand in at this point.
I can't get at Bogarde for last night. He's not a RB and doesn't spend anywhere near enough time there to be counted on.
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If Cash is crocked, I wonder if we'll try Konsa on the right and Lindelof in the centre.
No offence to the lad but Bogarde looked so uncomfortable at full back last night. And he's never going to whip a ball in from the flank (then again, who does, for us?).
Bogarde has no feel for the ball at all as Roy Keane might say. That's a big problem for his progression even as a midfielder. He has no chance at right back, positional sense is horrendous there too.
Konsa won't be crossing any ball at RB but Lindelof in with Torres and Maatsen. We should be quicker and better organised. Stick Bogarde in right of Onana and Luiz left.
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Cash apparently should be ok for Lille next week.
Any news on the midfield duo?
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Ginny told JustinTalks last night that he hopes to be back next week but I don't know if that meant in training or fit for selection.
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If McGinn can make the West Hammgame I reckon that’s the best we can hope for personally. I’m certainly not expecting to see Youri until well after the international break.
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If Cash is crocked, I wonder if we'll try Konsa on the right and Lindelof in the centre.
No offence to the lad but Bogarde looked so uncomfortable at full back last night. And he's never going to whip a ball in from the flank (then again, who does, for us?).
We've wondered this before but we know what Emery will do.