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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on November 27, 2025, 07:58:03 PM
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Villa Park, Sun 30th Nov. 14.05 KO.
No respite.
Be interesting if he sticks with Ollie or goes with Malen. I think he'll stick with Ollie starting and Malen on second half.
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We'll either hammer them or it will be a much harder than necessary win by a single goal.
Ollie to start, Donyell to apply the coup de grâce.
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4-0.
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No poll. Amateur.
3-1 Watkins, SJM, Sancho
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I see a poll. You need glasses mate!
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Hopefully we played to the level of our opponents tonight as we’ll need to be more decisive and clinical on Sunday.
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If he starts Ollie and not Malen on Sunday I would be pretty pi**ed off if I were Donny.
He’s earned it. Put Watkins on second half.
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Malen has to start this, with or without Watkins.
3-0 FTF!!
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Why the 2.05 kick-offs?
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Why the 2.05 kick-offs?
Unai thinks it might stop us conceding early goals.
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Why the 2.05 kick-offs?
To allow extra time for TV viewers in case the midday kick-off runs over.
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6-0
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Just win.
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Yep, just win. Don't care how or who plays apart from Rogers.
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I saw the highlights of their last game on MOTD. They look ragged at the back. I reckon he'll start Maatsen and Malen.
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God, can you imagine slipping up to this bunch of losers? Even if their new manager is the hottest man in the Premier League.
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The closest thing we have to meaningful historical local rivals. But like the rest of that cohort they need a strong reminder that they are rivals only in the sense of being a bus ride away.
5-0.
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They have a had a week for the new boss impact to take affect, so we need to be a little wary.
That said, we need to smash the fuckers all the way back to yam yam land.
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3.1
Onwards
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I always look a sequences and probability so you have team in fine form against a team who haven't won yet this season so there is potential for a surprise result. That was until I found out that Wolfs had acutally won, albeit in the LC.
That's good enough for me and we really should have far too much for them, they can be a bit of a pain so I can see us conceding, more then once perhaps. Those mind the gap days seem a world a way now and that period was one of the oddest in my time watching football. A manufactured, one sided and daft rivalry where previous there had been a distant respect alongside a feeling of irrelevance about the fortunes of either side from either side.
Anyway, lets send the 70's throwbacks home in misery to the Town that is still in lockdown judging by the amount of people in the pubs a few weeks ago.
3-2
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Could be the first ten niller in the Premier League, it'll be that one sided.
We're class, they're shit.
If Malen starts it's going to be a very bad day for them.
FTF 8)
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Another 2-1 for me.
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Could be the first ten niller in the Premier League, it'll be that one sided.
If we win 10-0, that will likely mean a hat-trick for Ollie. Dilemmas, dilemmas.
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Could be the first ten niller in the Premier League, it'll be that one sided.
If we win 10-0, that will likely mean a hat-trick for Ollie. Dilemmas, dilemmas.
Not if Malen starts.
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Could be the first ten niller in the Premier League, it'll be that one sided.
If we win 10-0, that will likely mean a hat-trick for Ollie. Dilemmas, dilemmas.
Well of course I'd take it but it's never gonna happen sadly.
Malen x 4
Rogers x 3
Tielemens
Maatsen
The Sanch
8)
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Can we please win relatively comfortably? I don't expect 5 or 6, but can we just have a relatively routine 2-0 win with at least one of the goals coming in the first half so I don't have to be particularly nervous at any point?
Even last night, which involved 89 of the most comfortable, non-nerve-racking Villa related minutes ever, managed to serve up some tension at the end whereby we conceded a silly goal and they then got a set piece. I want a nice, relaxing Sunday, please. I appreciate we did win 4-0 in our most recent league game at home.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Watkins
Rogers
Malen
Strong bench just in case with Beundia, Onana, Bogarde, who can all do a job.
4-0, Watkins, Malen, Rogers, McGinn
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Please win Villa.
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Fancy a 3-0 in this.
Wolves offered very little when they fell behind to Palace last weekend.
Think Edwards will pack their midfield in that one but we have all our CMs fit so can counter that and also think we'll go similar to the Burnley game and start Malen as support striker as he'll have plenty of space in this.
Chance to go 3rd if we win and could stay there if Chelsea lose to Arsenal.
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We need to f#ckin smash these "Mind the Gap" twats!
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We need to f#ckin smash these "Mind the Gap" twats!
Agreed. It's time we dished out a severe beating to these bastards.
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We need to f#ckin smash these "Mind the Gap" twats!
Agreed. It's time we dished out a severe beating to these bastards.
Yes, a real big drubbing will destroy any remaining vestiges of hope these jokers may have of somehow turning it around.
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I'm getting horrible Sheff U vibes.
1-1.
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Anyone thinking we might lose should have a look at our home form over the past two years.
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Absolutely. We're due one.
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I have this argument with my better half. She’s in ‘they’re due one camp’.
My argument - that repeating patterns are more likely to continue than alter, leads me to predict a 3-0 home win.
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Strange results happen and of course it could here, but normally a team near the top beats a team at the bottom on 2 points near the start of December, with home advantage helping. Its as simple as that really. I think we’ll be 3rd maybe even 2nd heading into the Arsenal next Saturday
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Anyone thinking we might lose should have a look at our home form over the past two years.
None of this.
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Anyone thinking we might lose should have a look at our home form over the past two years.
None of this.
Yes stop! I hate this fixture. My Wolves family will be waiting for a little glimmer of hope.
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We’ll beat them. We’re miles better than them. We’ll still find a way to make it more difficult though.
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I reckon 2-0. Will take us a while to crack them.
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Think we'll give them a kicking - 4 or 5 nil.
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I reckon 2-0. Will take us a while to crack them.
My spidey-sense tells me they'll score first. Probably inside 15 minutes. Then we'll equalise before half time and then win.
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I reckon 2-0. Will take us a while to crack them.
My spidey-sense tells me they'll score first. Probably inside 15 minutes. Then we'll equalise before half time and then win.
Wise. Get the disappointment in first.
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Think we'll give them a kicking - 4 or 5 nil.
Agreed. 4-0 and they'll go home happy knowing it should have been in double figures.
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3-0 - Rogers, Malen and Konsa.
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W0 D3 L13 is their current league run
We've lost 2 home league games in 20 months
We'll smash the granny out of them.
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See, stats like these make me even more nervous.
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I don’t think it will be easy at all. They will set up so defensively they’ll let us have their kick off as well.
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I thought Donnie/Ollie duet worked quite well against Burnley and if these donkeys are going to be no different so go with same?
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The only worry is we have won 7 on trot at home and these sort of runs come to an end......
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The only worry is we have won 7 on trot at home and these sort of runs come to an end......
....after we play Wolves.
*More likely to come to an end against Arsenal.
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Bad karma to look too far ahead, but am really looking forward to the Arsenal game. First we must bin the Dogs, however.
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Speaking yesterday to a wolves ST holder, who’s going on Sunday. He said they’re the worst Premiership team he’s seen, have no players to keep an eye on and they’re usual crop of promising or entertaining Portuguese players have been replaced by poorly recruited inferior players. He reckoned 4-0 Villa.
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Anyone thinking we might lose should have a look at our home form over the past two years.
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Maybe not lose but a shit Sheff Utd messed-up our 15 game winning streak at VP and only an injury time flying Zaniolo header saved our blushes.
Plus, derbies are more of a leveller.
And a lot of our wins are unconvincing.
There, that should restore the balance. 1-1
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We don’t often blow teams away, so I’m expecting this one to be a lot like the Leeds game. Wolves will likely have one of those days where they play out of their skin and look like prime Barcelona. We’ll need to stay focused, keep our heads, and stick to the game plan—don’t let the noise from Wolves throw us off.
Malen is a guaranteed starter, and I expect Ollie to be right there with him. The two of them complement each other really well. While Ollie’s goal-scoring form hasn’t been great, this partnership suits the team overall.
One thing I’d like to see from Ollie is more aggression. He could probably do with building up his upper body strength, especially when it comes to those one-on-one situations. When he’s up against a defender, I want to see him putting the defender on the floor, not the other way around.
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I thought Donnie/Ollie duet worked quite well against Burnley and if these donkeys are going to be no different so go with same?
I think so too. Press their defenders hard from the first whistle. Rogers on left and Tielemans in the middle. Likes of Buendia off the bench. Any kind of win will do.
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I have missed 3 home games in over 40 years.
I am buggered if I have ANY recollection of Rob Edwards playing for us.
I’ve googled images of him, the Rover/MG kit was worn, but I still have no memory of him.
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Speaking yesterday to a wolves ST holder, who’s going on Sunday. He said they’re the worst Premiership team he’s seen, have no players to keep an eye on and they’re usual crop of promising or entertaining Portuguese players have been replaced by poorly recruited inferior players. He reckoned 4-0 Villa.
I do hope he right on everything he said to you.
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In reality this should be a easy win, but as we have seen on previous games against Wolverhampton and other derby games it never plays out that way,if we play the slow build up game I not holding out much hope, this is their cup final once again and that's not being disrespectful to them
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Had a look on MM and their pre-match thread is very like ours each week in 15/16.
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See I feel like whilst we often win at home against them it’s always a slog.
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This lot are like a dog turd you step in and just can't get off the bottom of your shoe. They linger like a bad smell.
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I have missed 3 home games in over 40 years.
I am buggered if I have ANY recollection of Rob Edwards playing for us.
I’ve googled images of him, the Rover/MG kit was worn, but I still have no memory of him.
I have a vague memory of him going on a mazy run up the right flank and hitting the woodwork and possibly assisting for Marcus Allback for a goal against Chelsea?
It'll be weird when he becomes our manager. Thought Little and Greggers were a dying breed of pros turned gaffer at the same club.
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I have missed 3 home games in over 40 years.
I am buggered if I have ANY recollection of Rob Edwards playing for us.
I’ve googled images of him, the Rover/MG kit was worn, but I still have no memory of him.
I have a vague memory of him going on a mazy run up the right flank and hitting the woodwork and possibly assisting for Marcus Allback for a goal against Chelsea?
It'll be weird when he becomes our manager. Thought Little and Greggers were a dying breed of pros turned gaffer at the same club.
I remember that game well. Allback scored twice, Mellberg and Johnsen at centre half, I was drinking vodka and coke from a McDonalds cup. Don't remember Edwards playing. Do remember his existence though, so trumping andyh.
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Please to god just win this game.
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I have missed 3 home games in over 40 years.
I am buggered if I have ANY recollection of Rob Edwards playing for us.
I’ve googled images of him, the Rover/MG kit was worn, but I still have no memory of him.
I have a vague memory of him going on a mazy run up the right flank and hitting the woodwork and possibly assisting for Marcus Allback for a goal against Chelsea?
It'll be weird when he becomes our manager. Thought Little and Greggers were a dying breed of pros turned gaffer at the same club.
I remember that game well. Allback scored twice, Mellberg and Johnsen at centre half, I was drinking vodka and coke from a McDonalds cup. Don't remember Edwards playing. Do remember his existence though, so trumping andyh.
Remember this game well, was over for the game, my first since moving to Canada in 2000. My cousins mate was a steward so got to go in early and look around the ground, he gave us vests and we watched the game pitch side in the corner of the holte and trinity. We put a tenner on Allback first scorer and 2-1 win, Villa are 2-0 up with Allback scoring both then I think it was Terry scored in injury time, well we couldn’t contain our delight that we were about to win £400 nicker so half sort of celebrated the Chelsea goal only to realize we’re standing in front of the Holte, not very smart!
Anyway we cashed in and hit the town and got bladdered. Left my Valentino jacket in some club and woke up in some birds bed in Northfield.
My cousin made it home safe.
I don’t remember Edward’s playing for us or much of the night though.
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Three points today is huge considering the league table, puts us 6 points ahead of the mid-table dross currently on 18 points - Spurs, Man Ure, Newcastle, Liverpool and Everton.
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The voice in my head is of Hugh Johns commentating this game
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We need to ensure we don’t put in a Europa League style performance. Wolves are obviously not good, but we can’t be complacent in this.
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The voice in my head is of Hugh Johns commentating this game
Sammy Crooks or Pop Robson or Chippy Brsdy or Sidney Cowans
Seemed to struggle with first names
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Memory was mostly right. Edwards hit the bar against Chelsea in that 2-1 win with the Allback brace. Lovely chip over the stranded Cudicini at the 2 minute-mark on the highlights here. Also started the move that led to Allback's opening goal.
Who knows, maybe Rob met his missus in a Brum nite club after nicking some bloke's Valentino jacket later that day....
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I think we may lose this just because I will be a miserable sod today.
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So we swapped cameras from witton lane to Trinity for a while , i vaguely remember, but don’t know why can anyone remember?
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So we swapped cameras from witton lane to Trinity for a while , i vaguely remember, but don’t know why can anyone remember?
The original camera position in WL was too high after it was rebuilt and looked really awkward.
Eventually they found a way of lowering it by putting the Cameras at back of stand rather than the overhead gantry,
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Appropiate it's the "Andy Gray derby" game today on his 70th birthday!
Hoping for a win but suspect a score draw.
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It should be a formality if Thursday night’s complacency is left behind us.
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This time yesterday only three teams hadn't won a Premier League away game this season - Newcastle, Fulham and Wolves.
Over to you Villa.
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I have a nagging feeling that we will slip up today, as most think it is a formality.