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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on November 24, 2025, 12:32:36 PM
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Thurs 27th, 17.45 KO.
3-0
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Villa win, 3-1.
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37-0
We are going win everything
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4 - 0
malen
sancho
guessand
elliot
:)
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4-0.
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Not a phrase I'm in the habit of saying, but, let's beat the shit out of these Young Boys.
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Not a phrase I'm in the habit of saying, but, let's beat the shit out of these Young Boys.
Yeah stick it up 'em.
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Yeah lets give em a good spanking!
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This will be an easy win so rest key players and give the squad players a start.
I'd like to see Guessand, Sancho, Hemmings, Barkley, Lindelof, Maatsen and Bogarde all start.
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Go Ahead showed that if you mess around it can kick you in the nuts. I'd prefer us to go strong and think about heavy rotation in later games when/if we have clinched qualification.
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Go Ahead showed that if you mess around it can kick you in the nuts. I'd prefer us to go strong and think about heavy rotation in later games when/if we have clinched qualification.
Quite right.
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Go Ahead showed that if you mess around it can kick you in the nuts. I'd prefer us to go strong and think about heavy rotation in later games when/if we have clinched qualification.
Quite right.
Smack on.
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Go Ahead showed that if you mess around it can kick you in the nuts. I'd prefer us to go strong and think about heavy rotation in later games when/if we have clinched qualification.
Yes.
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Talking of making changes, what has happened to Garcia? He's not even being mentioned in the usual injury news nowadays. Shame really as he looked ok and he's ideal for games like this.
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He was apparently fit for the weekend, according to someone reasonably well-connected on Twitter (Tanswell or little Townsley I think).
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37-0
We are going win everything
This is where I am today
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Bizot, Hemmings/Garcia, Konsa, Lindelof, Maatsen, Barkley, Bogarde, Guessand, Buendia, Malen, Watkins.
I'd start Elliot but more chance of Billy playing ahead of Harvey. Going to have to give McGinn, Cash, even Rogers a breather after all the recent football they have played. Torres is our only fit option at LCB so best to see how Lindelof gets on there.
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Might be a bit weird/subdued to start with, as I think a lot of fans wont be there in time for kick off.
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Go string to get us virtually qualified, no dicking about.
Marrinez
Cash
Konsa
Maatsen
Torres
Kamara
Tielemans
McGinn
Malen
Watkins
Rogers
Try and get into a decent lead and then get Barclay, Bogarde, Onana (if fit), Guessand on for Kamara, Tielemans, McGinn, one of Watkins, Malen or Rogers
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Why is it on so early?
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There are always a couple of games that start early so there can be more on TV.
The Bruges, Monaco and Young Boys matches all started at that time last season.
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There are always a couple of games that start early so there can be more on TV.
The Bruges, Monaco and Young Boys matches all started at that time last season.
They were all away though so started at 6:45pm UK time.
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There are always a couple of games that start early so there can be more on TV.
The Bruges, Monaco and Young Boys matches all started at that time last season.
They were all away though so started at 6:45pm UK time.
6.45pm European time, 5.45pm UK time.
Same back four. Bailey and Buendia starting we look very attacking and yes I’m an amateur.
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1881741098311356597/photo/1
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbtxgUGXYAQqUHu?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXsDG81WcAA7d3r?format=jpg&name=small)
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What's Kaden Young been up too
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Easy win, 3/5-0 with a patty for malen
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There is really no excuse for starting a match at 5.45pm on a weekday. Pathetic from UEFA. They should pay us compensation for lost gate money.
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There is really no excuse for starting a match at 5.45pm on a weekday. Pathetic from UEFA. They should pay us compensation for lost gate money.
British exceptionalism at its absolute peak there cd I’m afraid. It’s not all about us.
And yes I accept it’s a shit kick off time and the consequent impacts on gates and revenue. But as one of probably half a dozen clubs who probably got the biggest slice of the TV revenue pot for the Europa League I don’t think we’ve really got too much to moan about as a club though it’s obviously inconvenient for individuals.
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Matches should be played when people can attend them. I don't think that's "British exceptionalism". Portuguese, Icelandic and Irish teams shouldn't be playing in the rush hour slot, either.
Meanwhile they have Panathinaikos kicking off in the late slot so 10pm locally.
Imbeciles.
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There is really no excuse for starting a match at 5.45pm on a weekday. Pathetic from UEFA. They should pay us compensation for lost gate money.
British exceptionalism at its absolute peak there cd I’m afraid. It’s not all about us.
And yes I accept it’s a shit kick off time and the consequent impacts on gates and revenue. But as one of probably half a dozen clubs who probably got the biggest slice of the TV revenue pot for the Europa League I don’t think we’ve really got too much to moan about as a club though it’s obviously inconvenient for individuals.
I don’t see why it would be so hard the schedule the early kick offs for CET countries though - there are more than enough games for that to take place. A 6.45 kick off is at least outside of the majority of working hours, 5.45 is just going to cause unnecessary chaos as match goers get the same trains and buses as people going home from work and school. It’s not just us it is inconveniencing, it’s people who have no interest in going to the game as well.
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Matches should be played when people can attend them. I don't think that's "British exceptionalism". Portuguese, Icelandic and Irish teams shouldn't be playing in the rush hour slot, either.
Meanwhile they have Panathinaikos kicking off in the late slot so 10pm locally.
Imbeciles.
Fair point, I suppose UEFAs insistence on two KO times per Match Day and that everyone is in one of the slots doesn’t help here. They seem to be able to make exceptions for Azerbaijani and Kazakh clubs so why not everyone else. Of course TV will drive some of that decision making as well. The good thing is as one of the major clubs in the comp we at least predominantly get the 8pm slot at home and 9pm when we’re away.
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For the love of McGrath, I hope Ollie has his scoring boots on and gets at least a brace and at best a double-bogey.
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Bit of annoying k/o time, but gives me an excuse to finish work early, which is nice
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Bit of annoying k/o time, but gives me an excuse to finish work early, which is nice
I think the kick off time is so early as were playing Young Boys and they need to be in bed by 9 #shitjoke
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Me mother made the same joke and was quite pleased with herself. 🙂
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It's a top joke. Clever yet wholesome. Rare these days.
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Routine win.
Bizot in goal.
Can see Maatsen, Malen and Bogarde getting a start.
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For the love of McGrath, I hope Ollie has his scoring boots on and gets at least a brace and at best a double-bogey.
This would be a very good time to hit the target and gain confidence again, just before some very tough Christmas fixtures.
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I'd go;
Bizot
Lindeloff, Konsa, Torres, Maatsen
Kamara, Bogarde
Guessand, Malen, Sancho
Watkins
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Qualify in top 8 first, then rest players. The competition is too important to mess around.
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I'd go;
Bizot
Lindeloff, Konsa, Torres, Maatsen
Kamara, Bogarde
Guessand, Malen, Sancho
Watkins
Bizot
Garcia Konsa Lindelof Digne
Onana Bogarde
Guessand Eliott Sancho
Watkins
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Qualify in top 8 first, then rest players. The competition is too important to mess around.
My logic in resting a few players at this point is that this is probably our easiest remaining game on paper, which we should be able to win with a squad side. We'll want to finish as high up the table as possible to ensure home games later in the competition, so every game is important regardless of whether we've mathmatically confirmed our place in the top 8 or not. Therefore if we're going to rest players at any point, I'd rest them here, rather than in Istanbul for example.
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Yep, if we can't dispose of a bunch of eleven and twelve year olds with our second-string, we should give-up now.
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3.1
Is Garcia available?
Malen to start please. Deserves one after last 2 sub appearances.
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Qualify in top 8 first, then rest players. The competition is too important to mess around.
Agree 100%
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Qualify in top 8 first, then rest players. The competition is too important to mess around.
Once (assuming) we've confirmed top eight then it'll be a sharp pivot to "we need to finish top two to get home advantage in the second leg of the knock-out stages".
I can't imagine people will be willing to sack off the last match against Fenerbahce if that is still at stake.
And if we try and play (what people would describe as) our best eleven in every match because it's all so important, our best players will be on their knees by April when we will really need them firing.
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Qualify in top 8 first, then rest players. The competition is too important to mess around.
Once (assuming) we've confirmed top eight then it'll be a sharp pivot to "we need to finish top two to get home advantage in the second leg of the knock-out stages".
I can't imagine people will be willing to sack of the last match against Fenerbahce if that is still at stake.
And if we try and play (what people would describe as) our best eleven in every match because it's all so important, our best players will be on their knees by April when we will really need them firing.
Agreed. We can't do the MON approach, and when our squad is as good as it (theoretically) is there's no need to either.
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Yep we need to manage minutes. All we need to do is win 3 of the last 4 games, finish on 18pts which will be fine for top 8 and take it from there. I’d be happy with three boring 2-0 style Maccabi wins playing half a team each time.
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Agree, it is also about getting game time into the legs of the squad and trying to get them up to First choice level.
You don’t do that by not playing them.
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I'd deffo rest Cash and Konsa and/or Torres, positions where we're not well stocked with ready-to-go replacements, especially with an eye of the upcoming PL games.
As an aside, it's interesting to compare our very strong form with how imperiously those three have been performing. It's what has been driving us, I think.
After that, starts for Bizot, Bogarde, Guessand, Malen, Tielemans, please. Is throwing Sancho in there too much rotation?
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After that, starts for Bizot, Bogarde, Guessand, Malen, Tielemans, please. Is throwing Sancho in there too much rotation?
Barkley has played well when he's come on in recent games. I wouldn't mind him starting as well.
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After that, starts for Bizot, Bogarde, Guessand, Malen, Tielemans, please. Is throwing Sancho in there too much rotation?
Barkley has played well when he's come on in recent games. I wouldn't mind him starting as well.
Yes, forgot him. Plus, he's an experienced hand.
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On the "rotation or not?" thing, looks like Man City are using a complete second eleven against Leverkusen.
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Jaudis and Chelski going full pelt, though. Probs not a big deal for Chelsea, but I don’t think the Jaudis have enough of a squad to keep that up and challenge for the top 6.
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Maybe Elliot gets a game , now Ive seen him in a Villa Christmas jumper.
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On the "rotation or not?" thing, looks like Man City are using a complete second eleven against Leverkusen.
Doesn't seem to be working out too well for them so far.
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Bizot
Cash
Konsa
Lindelof
Maatsen
McGinn
Tielemans
Kamara
Guessand
Barkley
Malen
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Would be tempted to give SJM a rest.
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We should play the women's side against these losers.
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Their record is the same as Go Ahead eagles, so should be an easy, routine win......!!
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We should play the women's side against these losers.
That's a bit of an insult to out ladies!
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Their record is the same as Go Ahead eagles, so should be an easy, routine win......!!
They have one major disadvantage, they're not called the 'Eagles'.
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I would like to see rotation, so let’s go with
Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Torres, Digne
Kamara, Tielemans, McGinn
Rogers, Buendia
Watkins
and then rotate at 60 mins.
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I would like to see rotation, so let’s go with
Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Torres, Digne
Kamara, Tielemans, McGinn
Rogers, Buendia
Watkins
and then rotate at 60 mins.
Agreed - get it won and then make the 5 changes - surely only change Emi for Bizot
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Amadou Onana and Andres Garcia have trained and are available for the visit of Young Boys.
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Be nice to see Garcia to give Cash a rest.
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Be nice to see Garcia to give Cash a rest.
is Garcia fit now ?
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I'm just going on the post above mine.
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I'm just going on the post above mine.
sorry long day
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We should play the women's side against these losers.
That's a bit of an insult to out ladies!
Dunno. Would be surprised if Young Boys lost to them.
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We should play the women's side against these losers.
That's a bit of an insult to out ladies!
Dunno. Would be surprised if Young Boys lost to them.
Yeah, I'd expect the Swiss Young Boys to win.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/womens-national-team-humiliated-71-by-u15-boys-team/news-story/93e87b0dcac51e1d8146eddbb716f3f1
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15 year old boys doing everything they can to impress Alisha, little wonder they stuffed 'em!
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Be nice to see Garcia to give Cash a rest.
Konsa and Torres too, for me.
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Stupid KO time and stupid opposition #2
Not as stupid as Palace at 7 on a Sunday and probably unfair to the Babbies.
We really don't need another GAE this evening so a thoughtful team selection is required although it's not as if the Manager doesn't do anything other than thoughtful.
I want a win and goal(s) for Ollie, little added time and home in time to watch Shona McHornbag on the jungle.
2-0
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I would like to see rotation, so let’s go with
Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Torres, Digne
Kamara, Tielemans, McGinn
Rogers, Buendia
Watkins
and then rotate at 60 mins.
This
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Yep, get the job done by half time and then rotate at half time. Tielemans doesn’t need a rest, Cash might so Garcia can slot in there.
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Without wanting be all "trust whatever the manager does", I think I'm pretty comfortable with whatever he does tonight.
If he thinks it needs the same eleven as started against Leeds, then fine. If he thinks we can get away with half of them on the bench and start some of the others, then also fine.
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I'd like minor rotation of 3-4 players and then a mix of senior players and kids on the bench so we can adapt to the game. Winning is priority, minutes in legs for squad players is 2nd.
At least I'd like Bogarde and Sancho to start.
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As much as I would like to see us play our strongest team and get the job done by half time, the reality is that some of these players need a rest. Playing tonight, Sunday, Wednesday and then again with the early kick off against Arsenal on the following Saturday, we are going to need our best players in peak condition.
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Especially those areas of the pitch where we have accumulated, I would think, most individual minutes and have the least immediate depth - the back 4, excluding left back.
Torres was on media duty yesterday - I've noticed that players on media duties with Unai tend not to start - or at least, it seems that way.
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Yep, get the job done by half time and then rotate at half time. Tielemans doesn’t need a rest, Cash might so Garcia can slot in there.
I don't think García plays for us anymore.
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I, genuinely, can't remember what he looks like.
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Emery confirmed Garcia is available but would be a surprise if he put him straight in from the start, probably more likely to see Lindelof play there (shudder).
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Just parked up what an odd time for a mid week game. Hopefully get the job done nice and early, but being Villa it never works that way. It would be great to see Ollie score again or maybe a top game from one of the fringe players.
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Bogarde at centre back then..