Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on November 23, 2025, 12:46:15 PM
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Onana injured again?
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No Elliott again. I fear for this game, but please win Villa.
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I thought it was about time for Onana….to be injured
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Strong line-up. Hemmings on the bench ahead of Elliottt. Looks like Unai has given Harvey the V-sign.
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Probably our strongest lineup at the moment - get the win and it’s onwards and upwards
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Elliott behind George Hemmings in the pecking order it seems.
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Strong line-up. Hemmings on the bench ahead of Elliottt. Looks like Unai has given Harvey the V-sign.
Lance Corporal George Hemmings if you don't mind.
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Anyone still dismissing the Elliott clause as a conspiracy theory?
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Anyone still dismissing the Elliott clause as a conspiracy theory?
Unai Emery.
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Come on Villa: win & we're in the top 4!
We all know what happens next... :'(
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If you are going to lose Onana then no better replacement that Uri.
That is probably our actual strongest line up so no excuses today. Quiet the crowd and let our superiority take over. These are all fart and bluster, play our football and we should be OK
UTV
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Come on Villa: win & we're in the top 4!
We all know what happens next... :'(
Hope I am wrong but I think it will be draw today.
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Delighted Youri is starting, we should be beating these, they're in poor form, losing 4 of their last 5 matches. One of the reasons Unai has left Elliott out, maybe he's not happy with his attidude in training, I wish someone would ask the question, in one of his press conferences.
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Hemmings lives !
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Bizarrely watching this in Perth stood next to Steve Bruce (!!!) and Michael Vaughan!
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Delighted Youri is starting, we should be beating these, they're in poor form, losing 4 of their last 5 matches. One of the reasons Unai has left Elliott out, maybe he's not happy with his attidude in training, I wish someone would ask the question, in one of his press conferences.
In the press conference yesterday Emery said that some players need more time, pointed out Burndìa’s struggles last season, that Elliot is working very well and his commitment is fantastic. It’s just difficult because there are players performing etc.
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Bizarrely watching this in Perth stood next to Steve Bruce (!!!) and Michael Vaughan!
What does Steve Bruce smell like? Give him a sniff and report back.
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Delighted Youri is starting, we should be beating these, they're in poor form, losing 4 of their last 5 matches. One of the reasons Unai has left Elliott out, maybe he's not happy with his attidude in training, I wish someone would ask the question, in one of his press conferences.
It won’t have a bearing today but I saw them at Brighton a few weeks ago and they were poor. Speaking to their fans they are reliant on feeding off the fans for home games. We need to keep them quiet early on.
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Bizarrely watching this in Perth stood next to Steve Bruce (!!!) and Michael Vaughan!
What does Steve Bruce smell like? Give him a sniff and report back.
I'll be amazed if he doesn't smell of gravy and proper manly sweat.
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Bruce sweats gravy.
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He's one of them horrible ones.
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I like him.
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I don't like Michael Vaughan.
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Just in case he asks.
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Come on Villa: win & we're in the top 4!
We all know what happens next... :'(
We win and go in the top four, Unai’s Villa
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Bizarrely watching this in Perth stood next to Steve Bruce (!!!) and Michael Vaughan!
What does Steve Bruce smell like? Give him a sniff and report back.
Smells of ale, not scent like mine!
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Bizarrely watching this in Perth stood next to Steve Bruce (!!!) and Michael Vaughan!
What does Steve Bruce smell like? Give him a sniff and report back.
Smells of ale, not scent like mine!
Thanks. Interesting!
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I don't like Michael Vaughan.
Shaking Blades’s hands to be fair!
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Bizarrely watching this in Perth stood next to Steve Bruce (!!!) and Michael Vaughan!
Has he pulled his socks up?
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come on you villa babbies
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ollie never scored against Leeds . Time to do it today then ..
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Bizarrely watching this in Perth stood next to Steve Bruce (!!!)
When he introduced himself, did the locals ask, 'yes, but what's your actual surname?'.
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Are we singing about... Wolves?
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Going down with the Dingles, is the chant.
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The pitch looks really slow to me
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Played Matty
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Going down with the Dingles, is the chant.
And "mind the gap"
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Going down with the Dingles, is the chant.
Yeah but then it sounded like "Mind The Gap, Wolverhampton".
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FFS.
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Anyone still dismissing the Elliott clause as a conspiracy theory?
The fact that a clause exists is pretty undisputed.
The point of contention is whether he's not playing for accountancy reasons or footballing reasons.
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Be surprised if we get away with this.
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Thought we'd started badly.
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Wtf was that?
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What the fuck?
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Offside or foul on the keeper?
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Emi at fault for that.
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Stupid foul to give away from Rogers.
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Very poor goalkeeping.
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Goal stands. 1-0
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Great!
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That was off
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FFS. Yet again, the gift that keeps on giving for anyone having a crap run. So sick of this shit.
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Goal given. Fair enough.
Maybe wake up now, Villa.
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Shit goalkeeping
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Pathetic from Emi...
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The Leeds player pushed him with his left arm, but it was still weak
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Emi was as weak as piss.
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Shit foul. weak keeping. shit start.
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what a shite goal to give away .. emi was dreadful there .
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Weak goal to concede all round.
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Ignoring the contact I reckon Nmecha was offside when their guy headed it but that wasn't checked.
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one player pushes the keeper, the other goes up for the header. Clearly a foul, but Emi has to be stronger.
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its another away day gift
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He is so erratic these days
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That is so typical of us. On a bad run? Never fear Villa are coming.
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When do those goals ever get given?
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FFS. Yet again, the gift that keeps on giving for anyone having a crap run. So sick of this shit.
Isn’t their home form pretty decent?
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That was diabolical from Martinez. He was looking for a foul rather than actually dealing with it.
I thought we’d have trouble at here, and we’ve gifted them the perfect start.
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Villa's number 2
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That was off
Looked off and then a foul on Martinez, although Martinez was weak. Can't see a foul not being given if that was Man City, z
Liverpool, Man Utd etc.
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that goal aint given if its man115y
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Fuck off an offside and foul on keeper, if that's fucking Liverpool or Man City no way does that stand!
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Someone at Stockley Park yet again doesn't understand the offside law.
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what a shite goal to give away .. emi was dreadful there .
Exactly and so typical when we are off it. Leeds are on a poor run and we love helping teams like that. Come on Villa turn it round.
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Looked offside to me
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It’s about time we got into the game isn’t it ?
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The goal
https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1992596875665441062
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Sort it out Villa, exactly what you don’t do against a side whose big advantage is their home crowd.
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Missing Onana atm
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So weak from Emi, why doesn’t he jump? Never a foul on Aaronson to begin with, though. Typically weak refereeing from Rob Jones.
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Another reason to hate international breaks - we always come back from them pissed.
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So the plan was to keep it tight, turn the crowd against the home sudecand Farke,
But no - let's give them a goal, get the crowd excited and positive and behind them.
Professional?
We aren't
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We are obviously a good side but it is frustrating that we see so many performances like this when there is an opportunity in front of us: Sheff Utd at home in December 2023, Wembley in April 2025, Old Trafford in May 2025.
All the talk of top 4 this weekend ...
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This stop start game is suiting them.
We are unable to get going in any way
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Clearly offside for the goal. Pathetic keeping from Emi. Just punch it rather than hope for a free kick. Waste of a free kick from Emi B
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Let’s give them a hand getting the crowd up while we’re at it.
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Well well well, who could've predicted that. On a bad run and need a lift? Hello Villa.
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We 'score' that one and you can be sure the offside or foul would be given.
If memory serves, we had a similar scenario against Wolves away last year (may even have been the same ref) and Malen had a goal ruled out.
Woefully weak from Emi. But keepers are usually afforded more protection than that.
Not when it's us, of course.
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Refs a fucking homer by the looks of it
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We defended like shit, we deserved to concede.
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They're fighting harder than we are at the moment.
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Typical filthy Leeds. They never change.
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this ref is shite just like every other ref we seem to get .
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We’re getting dragged into a physical battle, which is exactly what we shouldn’t do.
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Referee is going to lose control of this match.
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They've brought us down to their level.
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We’re not dealing with the physicality at all
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Rubbish from Emi. Similar to Fulham goal with the supporting act
Youri off the pace
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That balling is definitely rolling slowly.
It’s like most passes are underhit
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It was a two o'clock kick off, Ollie.
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We’re not dealing with the physicality at all
Bit like the Villa women Friday night
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The pitch looks shit.
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Better, but Ollie looked like he was running in treacle.
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this ref is shite just like every other ref we seem to get .
That's because generally speaking, they're all shite.
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We’re not dealing with the physicality at all
I don't think their players are all that physical, at least not Palace level physical. It's just we're being sloppy and the game is scrappy which suits them.
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Are we going all Souness and blaming the pitch?
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Play fucking better Villa.
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How was that not offside? Same as Newcastles yesterday.
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How was that not offside? Same as Newcastles yesterday.
Exactly
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It’s not the pitch. We’re just not playing well enough.
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That automated offside line was totally incorrect.
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So we played with intensity and pressed against Bournemouth and so far today it's more the walking football approach.
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Since when does a fucking elbow play you onside?
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that offside still looks dodgy
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What the fuck is going on with that offside?! Watkins' elbow, surely not the part you measure from?!
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Can we do something good, please?
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We 'score' that one and you can be sure the offside or foul would be given.
If memory serves, we had a similar scenario against Wolves away last year (may even have been the same ref) and Malen had a goal ruled out.
Woefully weak from Emi. But keepers are usually afforded more protection than that.
Not when it's us, of course.
Like when we went 1 up against Sheffield United in December 23
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That VAR line they just showed was bollocks. Their bloke's foot was further forward. You can't play the ball with your elbow. I know technically it's probably right but it just feels wrong that you can be offside with your elbow.
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These can be got at.
Even the crowd are nervous, which is not standard up there.
But Ollie still going through the motions up top blunts our attacking threat.
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can you score off your elbow
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On that picture the geezers boot was over the line they drew
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Since when does a fucking elbow play you onside?
Since VAR changed the rules this weekend. Next week, it'll be something different.
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Better, but Ollie looked like he was running in treacle.
The chance wasn't creative enough. Not his fault.
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We need to switch the fuck on. We’ve been so bloody careless.
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They're more up for it than us and they're dragging us down to their level.
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So we played with intensity and pressed against Bournemouth and so far today it's more the walking football approach.
Can't understand it myself,, especially against teams struggling
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That VAR line they just showed was bollocks. Their bloke's foot was further forward. You can't play the ball with your elbow. I know technically it's probably right but it just feels wrong that you can be offside with your elbow.
Think they're just making it up as they go along at this point.
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Ollie is on, if we can pick the pass and get him in.
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So far we're poor but this is also a typical rob Jones performance where 1 side can kick and push and niggle without consequence and the other can barely make a tackle without him blowing up. Awful ref.
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Pitch is sluggish,mind
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Ollie is on, if we can pick the pass and get him in.
On what? On the piss, from what I can see.
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Wake up Villa FFS!!
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So far we're poor but this is also a typical rob Jones performance where 1 side can kick and push and niggle without consequence and the other can barely make a tackle without him blowing up. Awful ref.
He really is.. and smug to boot.
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This feels like one of those games where we just don’t have it.
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I wonder if Rob Jones has ever seen a game of football before never mind refereed one.
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We need to switch the fuck on. We’ve been so bloody careless.
Yep. Just when we can kick on and go fourth.
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Pitch is sluggish,mind
I think you’ll find the side playing in all claret is making the pitch look that way. Unfortunately.
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Refs a ******. Pitch is obviously grown long. These will be relegated along with their moronic fans.
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So far we're poor but this is also a typical rob Jones performance where 1 side can kick and push and niggle without consequence and the other can barely make a tackle without him blowing up. Awful ref.
We need to stop fouling them though. They are shit, we should have no need to foul them at all, let them have the ball, we'll soon have it back.
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Ollie's a fucking passenger at the moment
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We need to switch the fuck on. We’ve been so bloody careless.
Yep. Just when we can kick on and go fourth.
If they keep playing like this, they can sodding well go forth.
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Rogers and Buendia need to get in the game and start influencing things.
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First ⅓ of the match wasted
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I reckon we've been taken over by pod people since the Bournemouth game.
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Refs a ******. Pitch is obviously grown long. These will be relegated along with their moronic fans.
Which isn’t a great compliment to us at the moment. They’re very comfortable.
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Piss poor so far.