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Title: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2025, 01:03:25 PM
With a soupcon of bitterness.

https://heroesandvillains.info/2025/11/22/when-sunday-comes/
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: Legion on November 22, 2025, 06:04:41 PM
Done.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: darren woolley on November 22, 2025, 10:05:44 PM
Great read Dave.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2025, 10:17:51 PM
Great read Dave.

Daz.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: rob_bridge on November 22, 2025, 10:48:19 PM
Great stuff Dave W.

The last post on a social media site that my (soon after and un-beknown to be departed) brother wrote in summer 2020 5 years and a few months ago was very simple.

'Leeds aren't a Big Club'



Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 22, 2025, 11:48:09 PM
Sorry for your loss.

He was bang on. Fewer seasons in the top flight than Small Heath, as many league titles as Huddersfield, as many FA Cups as Coventry, as many League Cups as Norwich.

And everything they did win, they won by cheating. Absolutely Mickey Mouse.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: adrenachrome on November 23, 2025, 02:29:28 AM
Only a soupcon?

If I didn't know any better, I would guess that you have encountered their fans when selling the fanzine.

A remarkable bunch, it must be said.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 23, 2025, 08:11:44 AM
The only big thing about Dirty Leeds is the size of their car window stickers.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: ldavfc4eva on November 23, 2025, 08:17:45 AM
“ and they’ve got a manager who looks like the chief suspect in a Scandinavian psychological crime noir series”

Beautiful stuff Dave
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2025, 10:33:18 AM
I like Leeds, that play off defeat at home to Derby was the single funniest game of football I've ever seen.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: The Edge on November 23, 2025, 10:59:03 AM
And just to highlight Dave's point about Leeds getting a totally undeserved amount of media favouritism I just watched Sky Sunday Supplement to see how the journos see today's game going.
Low and behold they held a ten minute discussion about all things Leeds.
The only mention of Aston Villa was as "today's opponents" are Aston Villa. They then moved on to discuss Man Yanited (obviously). No surprises there then. I don't know why I expected anything different.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 23, 2025, 11:02:25 AM
Imagine how good it would've felt to hear them say, 'Aston Villa have picked up after a terrible start and are ticking along nicely." God, that would've been amazing.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2025, 11:09:29 AM
On a similar note, I've just been through the Guardian's match day feed and there's not a mention of our game at all, plenty of wobbling about Liverpool, the cockney derby and the Sheffield one, a game in Germany, Barcelona playing back home etc.

3 hours so far.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: Monty on November 23, 2025, 11:09:43 AM
Imagine how good it would've felt to hear them say, 'Aston Villa have picked up after a terrible start and are ticking along nicely." God, that would've been amazing.

Tried it on the missus yesterday. Her eyes filled with tears and she just murmured "but you're not Henry Winter, I'm sorry, it's just not the same not coming from Henry."
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: The Edge on November 23, 2025, 11:12:35 AM
Imagine how good it would've felt to hear them say, 'Aston Villa have picked up after a terrible start and are ticking along nicely." God, that would've been amazing.
Have I missed something?
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 23, 2025, 11:17:09 AM
Imagine how good it would've felt to hear them say, 'Aston Villa have picked up after a terrible start and are ticking along nicely." God, that would've been amazing.
Have I missed something?

You're complaining that you decided to dive into a fleapit and didn't like the kind of fleas that were dining on you as you emerged. Consuming the drivel that Sky, TalkSport etc spew out in the name of content and then moaning that it's not very good seems a bit counter-productive. If they'd spent half an hour talking about Villa, it still would have been drivel.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: The Edge on November 23, 2025, 11:56:26 AM
Imagine how good it would've felt to hear them say, 'Aston Villa have picked up after a terrible start and are ticking along nicely." God, that would've been amazing.
Have I missed something?

You're complaining that you decided to dive into a fleapit and didn't like the kind of fleas that were dining on you as you emerged. Consuming the drivel that Sky, TalkSport etc spew out in the name of content and then moaning that it's not very good seems a bit counter-productive. If they'd spent half an hour talking about Villa, it still would have been drivel.
Alright  lighten up. I only commented as it was relevant to Dave's write up. I know what to expect and I rarely watch sky unless we're on. As far as I'm concerned Sky and Talksport can all go fuck themselves.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: tom jennings III on November 23, 2025, 12:14:41 PM
Lovely stuff
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2025, 12:50:32 PM
I like Leeds, that play off defeat at home to Derby was the single funniest game of football I've ever seen.

Not sure about that. I'll raise you Preson vs Blose, playoff semi.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 23, 2025, 12:54:12 PM
Germany 7-1 Brazil takes some beating. It still makes me laugh when I watch the highlights every few months.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2025, 01:00:18 PM
I still get annoyed that Germany missed a sitter when it was 7-0 and then Brazil went up the other end and scored straight away. 7-1 was funny, 8-0 would have been funnier.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 23, 2025, 01:05:56 PM
Germany 7-1 Brazil takes some beating. It still makes me laugh when I watch the highlights every few months.

Certainly the best non-Villa game I've attended.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 23, 2025, 01:06:45 PM
I still get annoyed that Germany missed a sitter when it was 7-0 and then Brazil went up the other end and scored straight away. 7-1 was funny, 8-0 would have been funnier.

Neuer was pretty annoyed as well.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 23, 2025, 01:09:27 PM
I still get annoyed that Germany missed a sitter when it was 7-0 and then Brazil went up the other end and scored straight away. 7-1 was funny, 8-0 would have been funnier.

Neuer was pretty annoyed as well.
Which in itself is usually mildly amusing.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 23, 2025, 01:09:52 PM
Leeds have spent more years in the Championship than the top league. Let's help them on their way to getting 'back to where we belong'.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: SaddVillan on November 23, 2025, 05:02:29 PM
And just to highlight Dave's point about Leeds getting a totally undeserved amount of media favouritism I just watched Sky Sunday Supplement to see how the journos see today's game going.
Low and behold they held a ten minute discussion about all things Leeds.
The only mention of Aston Villa was as "today's opponents" are Aston Villa. They then moved on to discuss Man Yanited (obviously). No surprises there then. I don't know why I expected anything different.

The Graun's Premier League: 10 things to look out for this weekend yesterday was exactly the same. The Leeds v Villa preview focused solely on Farke and Leeds.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 23, 2025, 05:03:48 PM
That's pretty common for the Graun sport coverage. I'm generally with SE when it comes to media paranoia but their reporting of Villa is indifference at best, condescension at worst.
Title: Re: When Sunday comes - Leeds away
Post by: rob_bridge on November 23, 2025, 07:54:52 PM
Germany 7-1 Brazil takes some beating. It still makes me laugh when I watch the highlights every few months.

David Luiz re-invented the position of Rush Goalie without being in goal. He was so good at it he repeated it in the 3rd Place Play Off
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