Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine

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Title: Claret, blue and green
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 14, 2025, 09:12:56 PM
After dropping enough hints, I may as well tell you that my first all-new book for twenty years is nearing completion. It tells the story of Villa's Irish players, it's 188 pages and it'll probably be £9.99. It might be out for Christmas but don't hold me to it.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on November 14, 2025, 09:59:42 PM
After a bit of a shit week the prospect of reading that has brightened it up a bit. Thanks Dave.
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Post by: Legion on November 14, 2025, 10:32:40 PM
Lovely.
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Post by: trinityoap on November 14, 2025, 10:32:49 PM
Have you remembered Paul McGrath Dave?
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Post by: Legion on November 14, 2025, 10:37:37 PM
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aston-villa/gastarbeiterDetails/verein/405/land_id/72
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 14, 2025, 10:51:44 PM
Sounds good. Looking forward to the chapter on Mark Kinsella.
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Post by: johnc on November 14, 2025, 11:22:31 PM
Hopefully you will save Stephen Ireland for Vol. 2. Looking forward to this book. Best of luck with it
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Post by: cdbearsfan on November 14, 2025, 11:27:35 PM
Sounds good. Looking forward to the chapter on Mark Kinsella.

Just one chapter?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 15, 2025, 12:01:20 AM
Does it include a map of how far away from Ireland most of them were born?
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Post by: Rory on November 15, 2025, 02:11:23 AM
Does it include a map of how far away from Ireland most of them were born?

You're not mad keen on the Irish, are you, PWS?

Edit: in football. Not accusing you of racism or anything like that.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: Nev on November 15, 2025, 07:19:01 AM
I always considered us the "Irish" club of Birmingham, mainly because of my old man and his Irish mates, all of whom followed us despite living in the People's Republic Of Sheldon.

I'm fact I've never never met anyone from Ireland in the City that follows the Rags, I'm sure there are but it doesn't stop me saying "there is no such thing as an Irish Bluenose" on a regular basis.

Good luck with the book Dave.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: johnc on November 15, 2025, 07:28:28 AM
I always considered us the "Irish" club of Birmingham, mainly because of my old man and his Irish mates, all of whom followed us despite living in the People's Republic Of Sheldon.

I'm fact I've never never met anyone from Ireland in the City that follows the Rags, I'm sure there are but it doesn't stop me saying "there is no such thing as an Irish Bluenose" on a regular basis.

Good luck with the book Dave.
I would agree with this.  There is one lad in our group of Irish descent who is a bluenose and he grew up a stones throw from The Sty. We accept it as a mitigating factor.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: darren woolley on November 15, 2025, 07:57:28 AM
Really looking forward to it.
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Post by: RamboandBruno on November 15, 2025, 08:05:52 AM
Will look out for  this. Both my elderly mum and lone passed dad are from Dublin and I was in my late teens/twenties in the late 80s and 90s with all those great Irish players and God, when I thought nearly winning the league and winning cups was the norm!
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Post by: CorkVilla on November 15, 2025, 08:12:08 AM
Sounds great. Really looking forward to this.
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Post by: trinityoap on November 15, 2025, 09:22:31 AM
Looking forward to this Dave. I shall borrow a copy at the earliest opportunity.
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Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 15, 2025, 10:28:47 AM
I'm still waiting for volume 2 of From One Season to Another. Damn fine book that was and plenty to cover now from 2002-25.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 15, 2025, 10:43:41 AM
Great idea Dave, good luck with it.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 15, 2025, 11:04:55 AM
Does it include a map of how far away from Ireland most of them were born?

You're not mad keen on the Irish, are you, PWS?

Edit: in football. Not accusing you of racism or anything like that.

I'm the Acker of international football.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 15, 2025, 12:13:18 PM
Does it include a map of how far away from Ireland most of them were born?

Good point. I imagine if you total the distance of all of them combined who were not born on the island of Britain you’d still be way short of John Barnes’ Jamacia.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: Three Spires Villa on November 17, 2025, 06:28:29 PM
Does it include a map of how far away from Ireland most of them were born?

Good point. I imagine if you total the distance of all of them combined who were not born on the island of Britain you’d still be way short of John Barnes’ Jamacia.

🤣🤣 or Terry Butcher,
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 17, 2025, 06:39:30 PM
They weren't Irish either, surprised no one invented an Irish granny for them, Stephen had at least one extra.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on November 17, 2025, 06:53:52 PM
Cringe.
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Post by: Lizz on November 18, 2025, 10:30:00 AM
looking forward to reading it.
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Post by: simon ward 50 on November 18, 2025, 02:32:46 PM
Christmas you say?
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Post by: brontebilly on November 18, 2025, 02:46:35 PM
Looking forward to it 👍
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 13, 2026, 12:33:56 AM
It wasn't out for Christmas but it will definitely be published in the next couple of weeks. You'll be able to buy it once I get round to sorting out the PayPal link.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: Louzie0 on March 13, 2026, 12:49:20 AM
Great stuff, Dave, well done!
Looking forward to reading this.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: eamonn on March 13, 2026, 01:07:59 AM
Perfectly timed for Villa's St Patrick's Day collection. Maybe the club could do a tie-in...

Trying to remember if you got to interview Eamonn Deacy for your Champions book - it's in my bookcase in Ireland but if memory serves, was there a chapter about each player?
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: Hillbilly on March 13, 2026, 01:16:02 AM
Separate chapters for Con Martin the goalkeeper and Con Martin the defender?
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 13, 2026, 07:49:13 AM
Perfectly timed for Villa's St Patrick's Day collection. Maybe the club could do a tie-in...

Trying to remember if you got to interview Eamonn Deacy for your Champions book - it's in my bookcase in Ireland but if memory serves, was there a chapter about each player?

I did, there was and he was everything that everyone ever says about him.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: eamonn on March 17, 2026, 02:02:51 PM
Is today the day?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 17, 2026, 08:08:13 PM
Is today the day?

Probably next week.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: astonvilla82 on March 17, 2026, 08:36:07 PM
I always considered us the "Irish" club of Birmingham, mainly because of my old man and his Irish mates, all of whom followed us despite living in the People's Republic Of Sheldon.

I'm fact I've never never met anyone from Ireland in the City that follows the Rags, I'm sure there are but it doesn't stop me saying "there is no such thing as an Irish Bluenose" on a regular basis.

Good luck with the book Dave.
Sure I have seen the Irish flag at Birmingham games, his parents disowned him/ her I would imagine
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: astonvilla82 on March 17, 2026, 08:38:10 PM
Does it include a map of how far away from Ireland most of them were born?
Thought Aston was Irish back in the day
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: Steve kirk on March 17, 2026, 08:48:35 PM
Sounds great Dave, I’ll be buying a copy
UTV
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 17, 2026, 11:19:07 PM
CLARET, BLUE AND GREEN
The story of Aston Villa’s Irish connection


Dave Woodhall
With a foreword by
Radio 5Live’s Pat Murphy



The city of Birmingham has seen waves of immigrants
from over the Irish Sea making their homes and
helping to make the city. They dug canals, built roads and
houses and worked in the factories that made
the region such a vibrant place. Some of them
played for the most illustrious of the city’s
institutions, Aston Villa FC, while others became
lifelong supporters.

In these pages renowned author Dave Woodhall
tells the story of those who were talented, and lucky,
enough to ply their trade in claret and blue.
There are legends, heroes, at least one deity
and unforgettable characters. Players who defined
the word ‘versatile’, who were signed at a railway station
or sat in a hotel kitchen while their future was
decided in the restaurant. There’s the man whose
greatest moment means he hasn’t had to buy a drink
in Ireland for the past three decades, the
international who wasn’t qualified to play for his country
(and it isn’t the one you might think), the player
who was signed twelve years too late
and many more.


“The link between Aston Villa and Ireland is a 
long and well-established one that has led to
 many of the club’s greatest moments.

With Dave’s deep knowledge of Villa’s history
I can’t think of anyone better
to bring this story to light.”

Matt Maher, Chief Football Writer,
Wolverhampton Express & Star

£9.99 plus £2.50 postage UK/£5.05 Europe. Ask for RoW prices.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: LeonW on March 17, 2026, 11:21:50 PM
CLARET, BLUE AND GREEN
The story of Aston Villa’s Irish connection


Dave Woodhall
With a foreword by
Radio 5Live’s Pat Murphy



The city of Birmingham has seen waves of immigrants
from over the Irish Sea making their homes and
helping to make the city. They dug canals, built roads and
houses and worked in the factories that made
the region such a vibrant place. Some of them
played for the most illustrious of the city’s
institutions, Aston Villa FC, while others became
lifelong supporters.

In these pages renowned author Dave Woodhall
tells the story of those who were talented, and lucky,
enough to ply their trade in claret and blue.
There are legends, heroes, at least one deity
and unforgettable characters. Players who defined
the word ‘versatile’, who were signed at a railway station
or sat in a hotel kitchen while their future was
decided in the restaurant. There’s the man whose
greatest moment means he hasn’t had to buy a drink
in Ireland for the past three decades, the
international who wasn’t qualified to play for his country
(and it isn’t the one you might think), the player
who was signed twelve years too late
and many more.


“The link between Aston Villa and Ireland is a 
long and well-established one that has led to
 many of the club’s greatest moments.

With Dave’s deep knowledge of Villa’s history
I can’t think of anyone better
to bring this story to light.”

Matt Maher, Chief Football Writer,
Wolverhampton Express & Star

That’s a tease! How do we purchase this?!
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 18, 2026, 12:10:56 AM
Sounds a great read, and I know it will be.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on March 18, 2026, 07:38:59 AM
Looking to this.
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Post by: darren woolley on March 18, 2026, 12:55:16 PM
Can't wait.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 20, 2026, 10:16:31 PM
Bring an extra £10 on Sunday.
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Post by: Nunkin1965 on March 20, 2026, 10:25:10 PM
Need it. Need it.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: Beard82 on March 20, 2026, 10:26:11 PM
Perfectly timed for Villa's St Patrick's Day collection. Maybe the club could do a tie-in...

Trying to remember if you got to interview Eamonn Deacy for your Champions book - it's in my bookcase in Ireland but if memory serves, was there a chapter about each player?

I did, there was and he was everything that everyone ever says about him.
Why was he called Chick?
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 20, 2026, 10:28:29 PM
Perfectly timed for Villa's St Patrick's Day collection. Maybe the club could do a tie-in...

Trying to remember if you got to interview Eamonn Deacy for your Champions book - it's in my bookcase in Ireland but if memory serves, was there a chapter about each player?

I did, there was and he was everything that everyone ever says about him.
Why was he called Chick?

No idea
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Post by: eamonn on March 20, 2026, 10:57:08 PM
Dave, do you have a pic of the cover?
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Post by: eamonn on March 20, 2026, 10:59:31 PM
Copilot/AI:

Quote
Family Nickname: According to Eamonn's brother, Michael, their father always called him his "little chicken".
Affectionate Origin: His father would often say, "Come on my little chick, we are off to football," as they headed to matches.

The nickname stuck with him throughout his successful career, during which he won a League Championship with Aston Villa (1981) and was part of their European Cup-winning squad in 1982. He is so revered in his native Galway that Terryland Park was renamed Eamonn Deacy Park in his honor after his death in 2012.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 21, 2026, 11:02:12 AM
Dave, do you have a pic of the cover?

For some reason I can't upload the whole thing but you get the idea.

(https://i.ibb.co/m3wKVRG/IMG-20260321-105910.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m3wKVRG)
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Post by: eamonn on March 21, 2026, 11:29:45 AM
Re being on-sale tomorrow, I presume you've rejected the overtures of the card machine and cash is still king at H&V Towers/North Stand corner.
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Post by: Clampy on March 21, 2026, 11:44:13 AM
I reckon I deserve a free copy, because i'm great. In fact, I deserve two in case i lose the other one.

 
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 21, 2026, 12:05:26 PM
Re being on-sale tomorrow, I presume you've rejected the overtures of the card machine and cash is still king at H&V Towers/North Stand corner.

I shall be by the McGregor statue.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 22, 2026, 12:05:22 PM
And it's now available online
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Post by: eamonn on March 22, 2026, 10:08:37 PM
That will have to do, nipped up to Tesco to get cash out of the ATM for the book and passed the McGregor about 10 minutes before kick-off but assumed you'd sold-out or were in the ground as no-sign then or 15 minutes after the game ended.
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Post by: Legion on March 22, 2026, 10:31:20 PM
Link not working?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 23, 2026, 12:33:31 AM
Link not working?

Yes it is.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on March 23, 2026, 07:38:04 AM
Not sure if I'm missing something but where is the link?
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Post by: rob_bridge on March 23, 2026, 07:44:45 AM
I always considered us the "Irish" club of Birmingham, mainly because of my old man and his Irish mates, all of whom followed us despite living in the People's Republic Of Sheldon.

I'm fact I've never never met anyone from Ireland in the City that follows the Rags, I'm sure there are but it doesn't stop me saying "there is no such thing as an Irish Bluenose" on a regular basis.

Good luck with the book Dave.
I would agree with this.  There is one lad in our group of Irish descent who is a bluenose and he grew up a stones throw from The Sty. We accept it as a mitigating factor.

Totally agree having grown up also in Sheldon as per Nev.

I'd say 80:20 1st and 2nd generation at a guess.
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Post by: rob_bridge on March 23, 2026, 07:49:19 AM
I maybe being thick but can you (Dave) post link as I want to purchase an old fashioned physical copy?

If you are going to be selling at Sunderland game - wasnt able to attend yesterday - let us know.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 23, 2026, 08:02:25 AM
Not sure if I'm missing something but where is the link?

Top left of the photo under the cover photo.
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Post by: East Anglian Villan on March 23, 2026, 09:28:38 AM
Sorry Dave - tried everything to access this - can't get into it
I'm not exactly a luddite on computers but this one is causing me to look like one...
Cheers
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: martin@HandV on March 23, 2026, 09:42:01 AM
Can you see the left hand column, it’s at the top.
If not, click the small grey button at top right of screen, just below the headers and above <<previous next>>, the left column will then appear.
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Post by: East Anglian Villan on March 23, 2026, 12:38:21 PM
Bloody work computer!!
All sorted on my phone now....
UTV
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Post by: rob_bridge on March 23, 2026, 07:07:18 PM
Can you see the left hand column, it’s at the top.
If not, click the small grey button at top right of screen, just below the headers and above <<previous next>>, the left column will then appear.

I got it - not all that intuitive but glad to make the purchase.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: Exeter 77 on March 23, 2026, 08:53:06 PM
All sorted for me now as well.
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Post by: saint13 on March 24, 2026, 12:07:06 PM
Nice one Dave, just purchased a copy. I look forward to reading it.
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Post by: brontebilly on March 24, 2026, 12:09:28 PM
Can you see the left hand column, it’s at the top.
If not, click the small grey button at top right of screen, just below the headers and above <<previous next>>, the left column will then appear.

Best to use desktop version? Can't seem to see link on mobile site
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Post by: eamonn on March 24, 2026, 12:32:53 PM
Worked for me - yellow "Buy Now' icon.
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Post by: Beard82 on March 24, 2026, 11:00:10 PM
Dave, do you have a pic of the cover?

For some reason I can't upload the whole thing but you get the idea.

(https://i.ibb.co/m3wKVRG/IMG-20260321-105910.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m3wKVRG)

And maybe pics of the first 400 pages?
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: rob_bridge on March 25, 2026, 06:55:37 PM
Nice one Dave, just purchased a copy. I look forward to reading it.

Me too on both counts.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: Three Spires Villa on March 30, 2026, 09:19:46 PM
My copy came today, a present for my Dad, who came to Birmingham in the late 1950’s, he will love it
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: rob_bridge on March 30, 2026, 10:23:45 PM
My copy came today, a present for my Dad, who came to Birmingham in the late 1950’s, he will love it

Mine too - I like this type of construct because I can go off-piste and pick and chose my own order. Read Blanchflower, O'Leary, Eamonn Deacey and George Best thus far.

Alas my Dad who came to Brum also in the very late 50s passed away a couple of months back. He did read 2 of Dave's previous books and liked them a lot, he would have loved this one.

Chris Nicholl up next for me - at 140th anniversary game my Dad was in the warmth of the Trinity Restaurant and Chris (as well as Gary Shaw) was the table representative for the club. My Dad reminded him of the goal he scored in League Cup replay against Everton and how my Dad used to remind his Everton supporting Brother-in-Law occasionally of the strike.
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Post by: eamonn on March 30, 2026, 10:28:04 PM
Mine came today too, lovely foreword from Pat Murphy. Looking forward to digging into it over Easter.
Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: rob_bridge on March 30, 2026, 11:00:31 PM
You won't be disappointed Eamonn.

I am saving the best 2, P Mc's until last.

Title: Re: Claret, blue and green
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 12, 2026, 09:44:49 PM
There are still some of you who haven't bought one yet. 
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