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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on October 29, 2025, 01:51:28 PM
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Saturday November 1st, 8pm KO.
Them 1-2 Us
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A draw (1-1), which would be fine. Hopefully, they beat Palace tonight.
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I'm going for a 2-1 win for us.
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Current form indicates away win. A very real opportunity to beat the jammy reds
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Current form indicates away win. A very real opportunity to beat the jammy reds
If we're winning on 90 mins, it might well become the longest game in PL history.
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Desmond.
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Horrible time for a football match, horrible arse licking from the TV companies before KO as well so the game will be at least 30 secs old before I tune in.
I'd love to stuff it up that firework ******, and this is as good as time as any.
0-1
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I've never been more certain of a positive result.
Sorry.
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We will play badly and be defeated, or we will play well and be cheated. Either way, home win.
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Guessand back in on right and McGinn shifted over to the left likely the only change? I prefer McGinn on the right. He combines well with Cash there and is ideally placed to target their new guy at left back. Rogers caused Kerkez a lot of problems at Bournemouth last season so he might spend time on the right too.
Looking forward to the game. They are still a very good team despite recent results.
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We definitely need to target their full backs and defence, dodgy as fuck this season so far. Be happy with a point. We haven’t done one of our 3-1 wins their in a while so that would be nice.
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Mr Scorccccchio (for which I am grateful), I think you meant the 1st November.
Unai will weave his magic. 1-2 to the boys in C&B.
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Oof big game. Was at the 1-1 near the end of the season a couple of years back, when we were winning until the last minute. Think they’ve deservedly done us 3-0 the last two seasons, but didn’t old cocky Arne Slot come out with something about we always play the same way (might be true to an extent) but in a fairly dismissive way when they beat us last year?
Thought they were unlucky against Man Utd, but we can get at them. Head says draw at best, but go with the heart.
2-1 us (Watkins, Rogers) and we emerge as challengers to the scooby doo villan that is Pulis’ Stoke dressed up as Arsenal.
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Mr Scorccccchio (for which I am grateful), I think you meant the 1st November.
Oooops!
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There's never been a better time to play liverpool, we should be going there with serious swagger! Van Dyke, Kannoute and the full backs seem out of sorts. the stand in keeper looks like a typical stand in. Slot has said after games they can't cope when opponents get physical in midfield and go direct. The reds should be trembling. Also we've got a full week and they're playing tonight against Palace
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There's never been a better time to play liverpool, we should be going there with serious swagger! Van Dyke, Kannoute and the full backs seem out of sorts. the stand in keeper looks like a typical stand in. Slot has said after games they can't cope when opponents get physical in midfield and go direct. The reds should be trembling. Also we've got a full week and they're playing tonight against Palace
I dunno, they were quite poor in the 1950s.
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There's never been a better time to play liverpool, we should be going there with serious swagger! Van Dyke, Kannoute and the full backs seem out of sorts. the stand in keeper looks like a typical stand in. Slot has said after games they can't cope when opponents get physical in midfield and go direct. The reds should be trembling. Also we've got a full week and they're playing tonight against Palace
I remember similar posts just before Old Trafford last May.
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There's never been a better time to play liverpool, we should be going there with serious swagger! Van Dyke, Kannoute and the full backs seem out of sorts. the stand in keeper looks like a typical stand in. Slot has said after games they can't cope when opponents get physical in midfield and go direct. The reds should be trembling. Also we've got a full week and they're playing tonight against Palace
I remember similar posts just before Old Trafford last May.
Yes it’s worrying isn’t it
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Although if we had got at Manure instead of letting them do what they wanted, we might have won there as well.
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Horrible time for a football match, horrible arse licking from the TV companies before KO as well so the game will be at least 30 secs old before I tune in.
I'd love to stuff it up that firework ******, and this is as good as time as any.
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This, all day long. FTSF!!!!
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We rarely win at Anfield. The fuckers will click for this one.
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There's never been a better time to play liverpool, we should be going there with serious swagger! Van Dyke, Kannoute and the full backs seem out of sorts. the stand in keeper looks like a typical stand in. Slot has said after games they can't cope when opponents get physical in midfield and go direct. The reds should be trembling. Also we've got a full week and they're playing tonight against Palace
I remember similar posts just before Old Trafford last May.
Yes it’s worrying isn’t it
To be honest ignoring tonight when they largely played the reserves, their only defeat at home in this bad run has been to Man Utd and they hit the post about four times in that game.
I don’t think anyone is really over confident in comparison to the Man Utd game last May. They could well beat us and I don’t think it would be a shock, but we have a chance here.
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There's never been a better time to play liverpool, we should be going there with serious swagger! Van Dyke, Kannoute and the full backs seem out of sorts. the stand in keeper looks like a typical stand in. Slot has said after games they can't cope when opponents get physical in midfield and go direct. The reds should be trembling. Also we've got a full week and they're playing tonight against Palace
I remember similar posts just before Old Trafford last May.
Yes it’s worrying isn’t it
To be honest ignoring tonight when they largely played the reserves, their only defeat at home in this bad run has been to Man Utd and they hit the post about four times in that game.
I don’t think anyone is really over confident in comparison to the Man Utd game last May. They could well beat us and I don’t think it would be a shock, but we have a chance here.
They spent close to half a billion in the summer, their reserves shouldn’t be losing 0-3 home to Palace.
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Desmond.
0-2
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Just go there and have a go, much like the 92–93 season. If we sit back, it will not end up well. Go and be positive!
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Nailed on defeat.
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There's never been a better time to play liverpool, we should be going there with serious swagger! Van Dyke, Kannoute and the full backs seem out of sorts. the stand in keeper looks like a typical stand in. Slot has said after games they can't cope when opponents get physical in midfield and go direct. The reds should be trembling. Also we've got a full week and they're playing tonight against Palace
I remember similar posts just before Old Trafford last May.
Yes it’s worrying isn’t it
I don’t think anyone is really over confident in comparison to the Man Utd game last May.
except for ST
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The difference is we should have won at Man Utd, if we win at Anfield it’d be a pretty big upset regardless of form.
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They spent close to half a billion in the summer, their reserves shouldn’t be losing 0-3 home to Palace.
It wasn't even the reserves. Looking at the BBC he put out a 5-4-1. The team consisted of 1st team players Endo, Gomez, and Robertson in a back 5 when only one of those is a central defender, Kerkez who has experience but is still young and mistake prone, Mac Allister in midfield and Chiesa in attack. Everyone else apart from the 3rd choice keeper was u18/u21 team members including the whole bench. He just decided throw the match and concentrate on the league. Especially when you compare what he put out last night compared to the previous round at home to Southampton.
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Just go there and have a go, much like the 92–93 season. If we sit back, it will not end up well. Go and be positive!
Yeah, but they were shit then....
Oh yeah....they still are!
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A draw (1-1), which would be fine. Hopefully, they beat Palace tonight.
I was hoping they would as well but by losing they are on a run that can not continue just based on odds. So I am not hopeful for anything on Saturday.
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By doing what they did last night, they are treating us with a lot of respect. We didn't prepare for Go Ahead properly as we were focusing on ManCity, I suspect similar of Liverpool preparing for us. Should be a good, tight game.
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A draw (1-1), which would be fine. Hopefully, they beat Palace tonight.
I was hoping they would as well but by losing they are on a run that can not continue just based on odds. So I am not hopeful for anything on Saturday.
Even more than usual, I will love it if we beat them, love it!
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By doing what they did last night, they are treating us with a lot of respect. We didn't prepare for Go Ahead properly as we were focusing on ManCity, I suspect similar of Liverpool preparing for us. Should be a good, tight game.
We prepared for Go Ahead fine. We just kept missing sitters.
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Just go there and have a go, much like the 92–93 season. If we sit back, it will not end up well. Go and be positive!
Yeah, but they were shit then....
Oh yeah....they still are!
The point being - don't be passive. I feel like Emery is too cautious in some of these big away games - go and play like we can at home.
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Realistically this is where we lose.
We've had a good run and are due a loss.
A win here would be magnificent but themosinf five in a row would be extremely unlikely.
Maybe a draw at best.
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Please Villa win.
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Just go there and have a go, much like the 92–93 season. If we sit back, it will not end up well. Go and be positive!
Yeah, but they were shit then....
Oh yeah....they still are!
The point being - don't be passive. I feel like Emery is too cautious in some of these big away games - go and play like we can at home.
I like how Emery plays away against the better sides in the league. We definitely pick up more points than most. Does seem to work better in London than in the North West though.
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Just go there and have a go, much like the 92–93 season. If we sit back, it will not end up well. Go and be positive!
Yeah, but they were shit then....
Oh yeah....they still are!
The point being - don't be passive. I feel like Emery is too cautious in some of these big away games - go and play like we can at home.
It's not a case of being passive or not having a go. Have faith in our much improved defence (and the protection provided in front of them) to deal with Liverpool coming forward. We can get in round the back of them (Cash, Guessand maybe later,) we can get in through the middle of them (Rogers, Watkins), and will inevitably create chances. We will only need to take one or two to win this.
Unai has his plan ready to execute, Slot has a lot to contend with and worry about.
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0 - 8
Totally inspired by info on here (thanks BV) that has us going top over the last 20 games :)
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3 v 0 to them. Twas forever thus back in the day and I should put money on this .
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play the long ball to Ollie . Konate is shit with the long ball.
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Could be a season defining game for us. We often mess these up… but, but…. if we win though, you could argue we are well and truly in the mix for the top 3/4.
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We really need to do what we did to City with a slight variation.
Liverpool create bucketloads of chances even with the bad run of results.
That said Allison (if he plays) Konate, VVD and Robertson aren't the players they once were. Like a collective step down so we need to make the most of our chances.
2.2 is my punt.
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play the long ball to Ollie . Konate is shit with the long ball.
Yep, he's a massive weak link. I look forward to the debates on Ollie's chances because I fancy one or two one-on-ones with the keeper.
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My brain is telling me this shitty run they are on cannot continue so they, with all the press and media being positive and the officials looking favourably at ever decision, up will revert back to early season form.
My heart says ftf and get into them early.
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They are having lots of attacks but not taking chances.
They are a couple of goals away from getting their season back on track.
If they score first we will get battered. Team desperate for a win and Aston Villa come to town.
I’ve seen this movie before and I don’t like the ending.
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I was really hoping they’d win in the cup as their streak has to end.
I’d take a point now !!
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This thread reminds me of the pre match thread before the last match of last season. People trying to apply logic about form and concluding to the positive at a venue we always fail at.
Its not the hope that kills you, it's knowing that its the hope that kills you, that kills you.
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An interesting question is whether to play Digne or Maatsen, given how little Salah defends. Digne is the man in form and is more defensively sound anyway, but Maatsen's runs inside offer a different dimension, maybe could help us win more second balls in midfield.
I'd go with Digne, to be clear, but it's interesting.
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He'll start Digne, and Maatsen will come on in the 70th Minute.
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I hope we batter these twats
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They had a Liverpool fan on BBC news on Thursday, and she was asked how long they'd give Slot if the bad run continues against Villa.
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They are having lots of attacks but not taking chances.
They are a couple of goals away from getting their season back on track.
If they score first we will get battered. Team desperate for a win and Aston Villa come to town.
I’ve seen this movie before and I don’t like the ending.
this , sadly but still hoping for something
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Any worse then Slot, who spent over £400mil stating the team he put out was down to him not having any squad depth?
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I think we’ll win.
They’re a mess at the back, we’re fuckin’ ace.
1-2 Villa.
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We'll give them an early goal start & the boost they desperately need. I would be shocked if it went any other way than a straightforward Liverpool win.
If we go there & win, it would be completely out of character.
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On the chance we get a win, resulting in winning 3 out of three against 50% of the scum sky 6...Will they be talking up our championship challenge to Arsenal?
I think we know the answer
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If we then win even more points so we're realistically a threat to Arsenal, yes, they will.
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Feckin' eejit - Fergus, not PWS.
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On the chance we get a win, resulting in winning 3 out of three against 50% of the scum sky 6...Will they be talking up our championship challenge to Arsenal?
I think we know the answer
I won't be talking up our title challenge never mind them. However, a win would put us in a great position for a top 4 push, given our pre-Xmas fixtures.
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Slot on whether Villa's turnaround in fortunes this season shows how quickly things can change...
It's also a sign that it is better to do it the way they did it than the way we did it! If you don't win in the beginning, people are like, 'Maybe they don't have the same team as last season' or whatever and then they start to win and everything is very positive again. With us, I think it's exactly the opposite. We are both on the same points and apart from Arsenal, I think many teams are in and around the same points, so again it tells you how hard the Premier League is.
They've done very well in the last five, six, seven or eight games and that didn't come as a surprise because even in the games they lost before, you could already see the signs they are a very good team and their playing style is really good. Normally, normally, normally – although with us the run is already quite long – you don't every time lose a game of football when you create more chances than the other team. They decided not to make a habit out of that – and let's hope we decide not to make a habit out of having more chances than the opponent but not winning it.
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So Spurs (A), Shity (H) and Thieving Scouse (A), I'd have taken 4 or 5 points, a draw gives us 7 from, probably, the toughest section of our fixture list this season. Oh, please win.
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I'm going to be watching this on my phone at a Nu Metal night in an awful Irish bar whilst dressed as Danhausen the wrestling vampire. I'm a 35 year old man.
Also, we are very obviously losing thanks to a very dubious 97th minute goal.
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If we then win even more points so we're realistically a threat to Arsenal, yes, they will.
Both our games against Arsenal are in December.
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Just let rip, have a go, most teams expect to lose at Anfield, no shame, Liverpool will come good at some point, we may as well get out their, let the lads have some fun, express themselves, go for it.
4-1 Villa...
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So Spurs (A), Shity (H) and Thieving Scouse (A), I'd have taken 4 or 5 points, a draw gives us 7 from, probably, the toughest section of our fixture list this season. Oh, please win.
Think we have away games against Palace and Newcastle in the same month and fixtures around Christmas look horrible.
But obviously this run on paper looked horrible too.
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Rogers to continue improving his form, I fancy him to bag one. But we’ll need one from Ollie too to win it. 2-1 to us.
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So Spurs (A), Shity (H) and Thieving Scouse (A), I'd have taken 4 or 5 points, a draw gives us 7 from, probably, the toughest section of our fixture list this season. Oh, please win.
Think we have away games against Palace and Newcastle in the same month and fixtures around Christmas look horrible.
But obviously this run on paper looked horrible too.
We play Arsenal twice in December and squeeze in Chelsea and Manu in between.
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If we then win even more points so we're realistically a threat to Arsenal, yes, they will.
Both our games against Arsenal are in December.
Noticed that. Also, we play the return match before we’ll have played the first fixture of the year against Forest.
Isn’t that a bit unusual?
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Andy Gray to score both in a 2-1 win
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2-7
A decent come back after being 2-0 down after 10 mins.
SUE also becomes the first manager to do a double sub the sub, whilst also starting the next great debate….. who should be our starting striker, Mings or Pau? As set pieces go to the next level.
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2-1 Parker and Saunders
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Need to go direct against these.
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I suspect we’ll get comfortably beaten, as it tends to happen there. But the last two results in the league have really shown we can be in the mix, so to an extent this is a bit of a free hit. I won’t feel like that when the game comes around, but it’s probably the reality.
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My first thought was that getting beaten by CP in the cup was probably the worst thing for us. A team badly needing a win and we’re next on the fixture list. We know what usually happens. But I think we’ll get something from this and I reckon 2-2
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We won't have a better chance of turning them over than we do at the moment. They've been wasteful in front of goal & wide open at the back.
We'll go there & be cautious, concede first after we lose the ball playing out from the back & then roll over.
We should go at them, get the crowd nervous & take our chances.
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Difficult to predict. Early goal to us might get the crowd on their backs - they wouldnt be used to that.
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We won't have a better chance of turning them over than we do at the moment. They've been wasteful in front of goal & wide open at the back.
We'll go there & be cautious, concede first after we lose the ball playing out from the back & then roll over.
We should go at them, get the crowd nervous & take our chances.
I don’t think going at them is the answer. An open game is what they want, it plays to their strengths. We need to try and be compact and then incisive on the break.
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We will lose.
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Put aside the superstition and it’s the best time for us to play them in a generation.
A great opportunity for us!
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0-3 Ollie to find his shooting boots and bag them all.
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We will lose.
I agree. We've seen this play out a million times before.
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We will lose.
I agree. We've seen this play out a million times before.
Indeed: and I was still buzzing from the Man City game last week! :'(
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We will lose.
I agree. We've seen this play out a million times before.
Every time the media big up Unai and/or the team we lose. Then we have the 'can't win a game to save your life/hasn't scored in donkey's years', here's Aston Villa to help you out. That's two records I'd like to see us break today.
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This 8 o’clock kick off time is killing me - feel like I’m just knocking about all day
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Had to go to the shops with the Enemy which is just a 45 min long bollocking, so now having a pint (part of the deal).
It's very odd being in Lidls's around 3pm on a Sat.
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I have no good feelings about this fixture, but Adam Ant out of Adam and the Ants has just posted on my Myspace wall that Liverpool is nothing to be scared of.
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1-1. Ollie for us. Craig Johnston for them.
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I'd take a shut-out
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Win, and we'll go 4th (possibly even 3rd), which probably means we won't.
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If Gravenberch is back that will be a problem.
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Difficult to predict. Early goal to us might get the crowd on their backs - they wouldnt be used to that.
Nothing remotely difficult to predict at all We'll get hammered or, we'll play OK, but get done by some ridiculous VAR incident.
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If Lambert can win there then so can Unai. We'll twat them.
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If only it worked like that.
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Even Sherwood beat them away from VP. With Unai in charge we're guaranteed a win today.