Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on October 21, 2025, 09:23:28 AM
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Thursday 23rd, 5.45pm ko.
Them 0 Us 3
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Turn up. Smash it in the first half.
3.1 to us.
Qualification for KO stages all but guarnateed
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The Colin Withers derby.
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Marco Bizot.
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Can't see the Eagles going ahead in this one. Another 'job done' performance in the Netherlands, 2-0 to the Villa.
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1-1
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I think Unai will rest quite a few for this without disrespecting the opposition. I expect Bogarde to start in place of Kamara. Unsure what he does elsewhere. We need to ensure we’re managing players minutes.
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I'd give Watkins the chance to attempt to get a couple.
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Other options could be Elliott, Sancho and Malen. Mings at the back with maybe Lindelof.
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Desmond.
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I'd go;
Martinez
Cash, Lindelof, Torres, Maatsen
Bogarde, Onana
McGinn, Elliott, Rogers
Watkins
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Bizot
Cash
Lindelof
Mings
Maatsen
Bogarde
Onana
Elliott
Buendia
Guessand
Malen
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Marco Bizot.
Marco Bizot.
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Marco Bizot.
Marco Bizot.
Bizot
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Eagles to have their wings clipped.
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The Colin Withers derby.
Bill Withers was good for me
Pretend I'm Bill and lean on me
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How do you turn a parrot into a soul singer? Put it in the microwave until its Bill Withers.
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Villa to Swoop for win.
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Bizot
Cash
Lindelof
Mings
Maatsen
Bogarde
Onana
Elliott
Buendia
Guessand
Malen
Bizot
Bizot
Marco Bizot
Marco Bizot
Bizot
Bizot
Bizot
Marco Bizot
Bizot
Marco Bizot
Marco Bizot
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I'd go;
Martinez
Cash, Lindelof, Torres, Maatsen
Bogarde, Onana
McGinn, Elliott, Rogers
Watkins
Id like to think we will be resting Cash or McGinn anyway. Either of those get injured and we are in trouble. Rogers should be given the night off too.
Maybe try Ollie and Malen up front again like v Burnley. Buendia on left and one of Sancho or Elliot on the right. Not sure what we do if/when Cash is out, might be Lindelof there which won't be pretty. Bizot will start too.
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Hate these "when do we have we tea?" European kick offs.
We feel more resilient these days which helps when you are away from home in Europe so that give me heart for a positive result. I can see plenty of rotation, some periods of showing said resilience and an eventual victory.
0-1
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Apologies. Which city in which country are GAH?
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Apologies. Which city in which country are GAH?
Deventer
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Apologies. Which city in which country are GAH?
Deventer in Holland.
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Apologies. Which city in which country are GAH?
Deventer in Holland.
It's in Overijssel. Which is in the East, rather than Holland which is in the West.
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Their record this season in all comps is W3 D4 L5, they did win away to Panathinaikos but lost at home to Steaua.
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I call it Holland as they don't like it and i'm petty over football.
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Judging by the state of Digne's ankle, Maatsen will be starting. Wouldn't mind seeing Sancho given a start alongside him.
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Eagles to have their wings clipped.
We need to watch them like a hawk though.
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A gif only the cool kids understand
(https://media.tenor.com/fx1B65ubuGwAAAAM/eagle-scrubs.gif)
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I have been trying to find that scene from Scrubs where between these two drop someone's liver or heart on the floor. It was very funny. I can never seem to find it.
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Judging by the state of Digne's ankle, Maatsen will be starting. Wouldn't mind seeing Sancho given a start alongside him.
I'm not sure Sancho at Centre Back is the best idea you've ever had.
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I call it Holland as they don't like it and i'm petty over football.
I mentioned this a while ago to a Dutch family we’re friends with
They said they call it Holland as well and it’s a load of overblown bollocks
same level as forest fans getting annoyed when called Notts and west ham fans pretending everyone’s always called their old ground the Boleyn and not Upton Park
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And Netherlands is a stupid name. Sounds like it should be in some shit romantic novel from a hundred years ago. "As they embraced their netherlands touched"
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Yeah, I work with a lot of dutch people and I sometimes say Holland, especially when talking about football, and I've never had anyone seem even remotely bothered by it.
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I have been trying to find that scene from Scrubs where between these two drop someone's liver or heart on the floor. It was very funny. I can never seem to find it.
Didn't have the heart to tell you, it doesn't exist.
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrooooong.
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I'm a British Tourist and I'm very, very rude.
I hate the stinking foreigners
hate their stinking food
I don't like French or Germans
I don't care for Belgians much
But worst of all worst of all
I hate the Dutch
The Dutch, the Dutch
I hate them worse than dogs.
They live in windmills
and mince around in clogs.
They don't have any manners
They don't say 'thanks' or 'please'
all they eat is tulips
and stinking gouda cheese...
I'm a British tourist with a countenance severe
I love to strike the foreign type
And box their poxied ears
The slimy crawling
stench appalling
snotty grotty Dutch
The Dutch are mad
Their fingers stuck in dikes
They use the wrong side of the road
And ride around on bikes
They don't have any manners,
don't have any brains.
There's only one race worse than them
and that's... THE DANES!
J.Dowie
1977
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Hopefully we don't slack off like we did at Bruges (league stage) or Monaco, or they'll be dancing in the streets of Go Ahead tomorrow evening.
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Don’t know anything about these. No complacency, some need rest, but think Unai will nearly always play Rogers and Kamara if fit. Onana is just back, so three games in 10 days might be too much (including Belgium game).
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Maatsen
Kamara
Bogarde
Malen
Watkins
Rogers
Guessand
2-0, Watkins, Malen
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Hopefully we don't slack off like we did at Bruges (league stage) or Monaco, or they'll be dancing in the streets of Go Ahead tomorrow evening.
Tomorrow ?
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Hopefully we don't slack off like we did at Bruges (league stage) or Monaco, or they'll be dancing in the streets of Go Ahead tomorrow evening.
Tomorrow ?
Is this a- what day is this?
I meant Thursday of course.
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We have played four other sides with a bird in their name.
Swansea are one, who are the other three ?
One of them you have to go back to the 19th century.
One of them we played in Europe and it is their correct full name .
The other we played in a one off game (think Swansea above).
*Willing to be corrected if there are more.
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Walsall Town Swifts in their first game.
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Walsall Town Swifts in their first game.
I just knew you would get that.
PS. Things such as Heanor Town/Dukla Pibram don't count.
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The Liver Bird. But it’s just a mythological one.
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Mings might well be fit for this game, so him and Lindelof could start.
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Walsall Town Swifts in their first game.
I just knew you would get that.
PS. Things such as Heanor Town/Dukla Pibram don't count.
Sheffield Wrensday?
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Hopefully we don't slack off like we did at Bruges (league stage) or Monaco, or they'll be dancing in the streets of Go Ahead tomorrow evening.
Tomorrow ?
You're always a day away.
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We have played four other sides with a bird in their name.
Swansea are one, who are the other three ?
One of them you have to go back to the 19th century.
One of them we played in Europe and it is their correct full name .
The other we played in a one off game (think Swansea above).
*Willing to be corrected if there are more.
Blackpool and Blackburn Rovers.
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Think that's colours rather than birds 🐦
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We have played four other sides with a bird in their name.
Swansea are one, who are the other three ?
One of them you have to go back to the 19th century.
One of them we played in Europe and it is their correct full name .
The other we played in a one off game (think Swansea above).
*Willing to be corrected if there are more.
Having looked at a list of teams we've played, presuambly it's going to be Fimleikafélag is Icelandic for puffin, or Zrinjski is Croatian for heron or something like that?
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We have played four other sides with a bird in their name.
Swansea are one, who are the other three ?
One of them you have to go back to the 19th century.
One of them we played in Europe and it is their correct full name .
The other we played in a one off game (think Swansea above).
*Willing to be corrected if there are more.
Valur Reykjavik ?
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We have played four other sides with a bird in their name.
Swansea are one, who are the other three ?
One of them you have to go back to the 19th century.
One of them we played in Europe and it is their correct full name .
The other we played in a one off game (think Swansea above).
*Willing to be corrected if there are more.
Valur Reykjavik ?
Nice.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/Valur_%28men%27s_football%29_logo.png)
A Gyrfalcon apparently.
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We have played four other sides with a bird in their name.
Swansea are one, who are the other three ?
One of them you have to go back to the 19th century.
One of them we played in Europe and it is their correct full name .
The other we played in a one off game (think Swansea above).
*Willing to be corrected if there are more.
Bristol Tity
Bradford Park Avemue
Or……
Aldershot as in Alder Flycatcher
Wednesbury Strollers as in Blue Bellied Roller
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Think that's colours rather than birds 🐦
I was being slightly facetious. I got a European one (not Valur Rekjavik) which is a little more obvious.
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Seems we are playing in the third kit tomorrow.
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We've played at Griffin Park before - does that count?
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Seems we are playing in the third kit tomorrow.
have we played in it yet ?
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Nope. First outing.
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I've got a European one (not Valur Rekjavik) which is a little more obvious.
Internazionale (Milano)
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^ good spot
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We have played four other sides with a bird in their name.
Swansea are one, who are the other three ?
The other we played in a one off game (think Swansea above).
Is it?
Kidderminster Harriers
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We have played four other sides with a bird in their name.
Swansea are one, who are the other three ?
The other we played in a one off game (think Swansea above).
Is it?
Kidderminster Harriers
Never faced them in a competitive game.
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I've got a European one (not Valur Rekjavik) which is a little more obvious.
Internazionale (Milano)
Correct !
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Never faced them in a competitive game.
That wasn't specified tbf, "We have played four other sides with a bird in their name".
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Follow the money.
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Never faced them in a competitive game.
That wasn't specified tbf, "We have played four other sides with a bird in their name".
All games as specified on the 11v11 website.
https://www.11v11.com/teams/aston-villa/tab/opposingTeams/
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my girlfriend texted her dad ( palace season ticket holder ) to come round tomorrow and watch Villa v palace on TV with abeer and curry .. silly bugger.
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my girlfriend texted her dad ( palace season ticket holder ) to come round tomorrow and watch Villa v palace on TV with abeer and curry .. silly bugger.
Yes, we’re playing Go Ahead Eagles not Go 3-0
Up Yet A-bloody-gain Eagles.
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Well this is nice of Liverpool
Liverpool granted Go Ahead Eagles' request for footage of Aston Villa to help them prepare for Thursday night's Europa League match.
https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1981089939849896410?s=46
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Can't they afford Sky?
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Before anybody says everythings televised anyway, what about 1976 ?
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It exists. People have seen it, they have just misplaced it. One day, Andy..
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Deventer bound from Amsterdam. Dutch public transport as on point as ever.
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I'm going for a 2-0 Villa win.
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No Digne, per UE's presser yesterday. That ankle needs to heal.
Forgot that Barkley isn't in our European squad. Its a shame as this would be a perfect game for him to get match fitness.
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What's the weather like? I have a worry it'll end up postponed until tomorrow and the twatty Premier League will still expect us to play Man City on Sunday.
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Looking at the weather forecast for the area, it looks like it’s a good job we are the early game.
It gets very windy and heavy rain around 10pm
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What's the weather like? I have a worry it'll end up postponed until tomorrow and the twatty Premier League will still expect us to play Man City on Sunday.
There is a big storm due later today, but it will impact the coastal areas more, and Deventer is inland and far from the coast.
GAE were battered 4-2 a couple of weeks ago by my local Dutch team, who chalked up their first Eredivisie win in 47 years. If Villa don't give them a good hiding, I'll be staggered.
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GAE were battered 4-2 a couple of weeks ago by my local Dutch team, who chalked up their first Eredivisie win in 47 years. If Villa don't give them a good hiding, I'll be staggered.
Everything will be eyrie, mon.
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Looking at the weather forecast for the area, it looks like it’s a good job we are the early game.
It gets very windy and heavy rain around 10pm
What's the weather like? I have a worry it'll end up postponed until tomorrow and the twatty Premier League will still expect us to play Man City on Sunday.
There is a big storm due later today, but it will impact the coastal areas more, and Deventer is inland and far from the coast.
GAE were battered 4-2 a couple of weeks ago by my local Dutch team, who chalked up their first Eredivisie win in 47 years. If Villa don't give them a good hiding, I'll be staggered.
Thanks both.
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Should be an interesting game. I hope we don't take it easy against these Eagles.
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Given the next two league games, wonder whether Unai will shuffle the pack a bit tonight. There are a few that could do with some minutes in their legs.
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Should be an interesting game. I hope we don't take it easy against these Eagles.
Gat the game won early rather than take it the limit.
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Should be an interesting game. I hope we don't take it easy against these Eagles.
Gat the game won early rather than take it the limit.
No, we'll take it easy for the first hour then push for the win.
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Flying home hopefully wont be impacted with the storm?
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From BBC:
Although they have won both UEFA Europa League matches so far this season, only two sides have faced more shots than Aston Villa (36) and only five sides have attempted fewer shots than Villa (18).
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From BBC:
Although they have won both UEFA Europa League matches so far this season, only two sides have faced more shots than Aston Villa (36) and only five sides have attempted fewer shots than Villa (18).
Shouldn’t this be in the Broadcasters bias thread. It’s an anti-Brummie plot I tells ya.
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The lads will be taking it easy after checking in at the hotel California, we go into this as the new kids in town, make sure we get plenty of goals and take it to the limit, nothing desperate, what a load of shite.
Anyway, 4-1 Villa.
I wonder if he will rest our new wonderkid Matty Cash, what a pass!, his stock has just sky rocketed, watch the big clubs come in for him in January, what they are not getting is the contribution from Guessand in front of him, Ollie has a massive chance now to really get some goals under his belt.
All in all should be a fairly standard win with plenty of goals.
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Very strange European away-day for me. I think for the first time ever since before O'Neill's days I not at a European away match. So will be watching it on T&T and following your comments on here.
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1-0 to us
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It has been so long that you haven't been at a match that you forgot we have a match thread for that sort of thing.