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Title: Press-ed off again
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 21, 2025, 11:09:17 PM
Enjoy.

https://thebirminghampress.com/2025/09/aston-villa-and-the-further-unanswered-question/
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: django on September 21, 2025, 11:44:44 PM
I was chatting to someone yesterday who is close to Jacob Ramsey and was explaining how he was told to move on even though he didn’t want to. The way it happened sounds pretty shitty and apparently has gone down particularly badly with our spine of Mings Mcginn, and Watkins. 

Essentially Ramsey wasn’t told about the move until it was across social media that an offer had been accepted from Newcastle. He was being offered a new contract for an extra £5k a week (which I’d have managed to struggle by on but would have left him a long way off what equivalent players like Malen are on) so was holding out for a better offer.

He told his agent he didn’t want to move. When he went to training the following day Emery asked him what he was doing there, genuinely surprised thinking the move was happening. Was essentially told by the club (not uniai) that he would be frozen out if he didn’t leave. Emery told Ramsey that he didn’t want to sell him and there are other players he’d have preferred to lose but the offers didn’t arrive.

Ramsey was a particularly popular squad member with a lot of the team, especially those who have seen him come through in their time at the club.

I also imagine that after the last game of last season we have been actively hawking around most of our squad. I imagine the players are either aware or suspect this and are unsettled.

I’m not suggesting they and others have downed tools but so much of football is psychological and it doesn’t take much to undermine spirit and confidence.

If the negative mood, feeling like we’ve  peaked and players falling out with unai is effecting performances I don’t know how you get out of that kind of spiral. Possibly not by calling the players lazy.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: Villan For Life on September 22, 2025, 12:07:58 AM
The penultimate paragraph sums things up perfectly which is a worrying sign
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: eamonn on September 22, 2025, 12:40:41 AM
Didn't your man, Ornstein (sp?) tweet earlier in the week Ramsey was sold that Wham and Newcastle were both in for him and he was interested in both? Doesn't chime with a player still keen to stay at Villa unless he was disappointed by the contract increase.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: ROBBO on September 22, 2025, 12:51:30 AM
Looking at it through Ramseys eyes, if you can pay Malen who has done fck all why can't I have the equivelant seeing I have played well when fit. We really do miss Ramseys drive.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 22, 2025, 12:57:05 AM
As I’ve said a hundred times before he was told he had to leave.  He didn’t want to.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: ROBBO on September 22, 2025, 01:02:59 AM
We have in a few months become a side that can beat anyone to a side that is playing not to lose.
Maybe some have been at Villa for too long but this tip tapping to each other outside the box is killing us.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 22, 2025, 06:33:44 AM
This is very plausible,it’s obvious that our transfer business has been sub optimal and if this has caused us to panic sell then the disruption to squad morale is an obvious by product.
I doubt many  would chose Malen over Ramsey.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: Villafirst on September 22, 2025, 06:43:39 AM
Sounds plausible that Ramsey was forced out. Aside from that, the amount of chopping and changing in the squad over the last couple of seasons has been crazy. Youngsters are discarded and not given a chance which doesn't bode well.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: Towser on September 22, 2025, 06:50:06 AM
I also know someone close to JJ and can confirm he did not want to leave Villa and was forced out, he would have gone end of last season if he hadnt picked up the injury. One first team player also 'volunteered' to leave if it meant JJ could stay, a lot of the squad are very unhappy about the behind the scenes situation and JJ was very well liked by the other players.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: darren woolley on September 22, 2025, 08:32:48 AM
Spot on Dave.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 22, 2025, 08:47:06 AM
Spot on Dave.

Thanks again Daz.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: aj2k77 on September 22, 2025, 08:50:45 AM
The players need to grow up. Your mate has left, it happens in all jobs in all walks of life and the reason we didn't qualify for the Champions League is because you bottled it against a bottle 6 side.
Title: Re: Press-ed off again
Post by: Sexual Ealing on September 22, 2025, 09:14:13 AM
The players need to grow up. Your mate has left, it happens in all jobs in all walks of life and the reason we didn't qualify for the Champions League is because you bottled it against a bottle 6 side.

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