Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: chrisw1 on August 28, 2025, 11:44:36 AM
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New look FAB
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/august/27/new-look-fan-advisory-board-meets-at-villa-park/
Fan Advisory Board
Grant Adams
Karl Bowater
Sarah Breslin
Andrew Carlill
Maninder Grimshaw
Craig Hamilton
Nick Hoskins
Jag Kalaar
Joanne McKibbens
Susan O’Brien
Hand-selected by the club. I'm not sure if these folks represent me or not tbh.
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Total waste of time. Grant is a decent bloke.
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Seems to be a lot of box ticking for minority groups.
Which has its place but they now massively outnumber the mainstream which is a bit odd for a supposed representative group.
I only know one and they had a career working professionally in the football industry so seem to be a bit of an insider for this role.
On the other side of the coin the bulk packages for Europa League were welcome but the Ckub probably struggling to shift tickets anyway and that seemed to be a pre determined PR exercise to announce at this meeting.
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Good to see a nice range of ages there.
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Karl Bowater rings a bell as well.
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Seems to be a lot of box ticking for minority groups.
Which has its place but they now massively outnumber the mainstream which is a bit odd for a supposed representative group.
Are you looking at the same picture as me?
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Karl Bowater rings a bell as well.
I don't know him personally, but he is part of Black Country Villa Lions Club. A Holte Ender and seems a decent choice.
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Seems to be a lot of box ticking for minority groups.
Which has its place but they now massively outnumber the mainstream which is a bit odd for a supposed representative group.
Are you looking at the same picture as me?
I’m going on the organogram of why each appointed!
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Seems to be a lot of box ticking for minority groups.
Which has its place but they now massively outnumber the mainstream which is a bit odd for a supposed representative group.
Are you looking at the same picture as me?
I’m going on the organogram of why each appointed!
Ok, but that doesn’t show that minority groups massively outnumber the “mainstream”, even if you add them all together.
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In the article about it, it said they have agreed to open the lower grounds at half time for people in the lower holte.
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The Fabs, cool, will try check 'em out, when are they on tour?
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Grant's a top bloke. I think Karl was on the old FAB. He's okay as well. Sue O'Brien has a lengthy record of working in football but why she's joined is a bit of a mystery. Joanne represents the disabled supporters association and Sara is involved with one of the women's groups - I was never sure which one.
Overall, though, I can't see any of them causing much fuss. Going through interviews is strange and anything with FSA input I treat with scepticism.
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I probably should know this as an H&V member for 20 years but are any of these people from H&V?
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I probably should know this as an H&V member for 20 years but are any of these people from H&V?
No. In fact there's no-one from anybody the forums/websites/blogs, which says something.
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I probably should know this as an H&V member for 20 years but are any of these people from H&V?
No. In fact there's no-one from anybody the forums/websites/blogs, which says something.
None of them asked or turned the opportunity down?
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I probably should know this as an H&V member for 20 years but are any of these people from H&V?
No. In fact there's no-one from anybody the forums/websites/blogs, which says something.
None of them asked or turned the opportunity down?
Do you honestly think any of the one who were left would have turned it down?
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This is a marking your ow homework exercise.
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What a load of utter bollocks.
It'll be like one of those rallies Putin puts on for the world media.
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Kind of defeats the point of it if everyone is handpicked. They're hardly going to pick someone that gives them a hard time.
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I probably should know this as an H&V member for 20 years but are any of these people from H&V?
No. In fact there's no-one from anybody the forums/websites/blogs, which says something.
None of them asked or turned the opportunity down?
We're all a bunch of moaning, grumpy nincompoops.
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If they get us the proper round badge back, I'll be happy. That should be their main focus.
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I recently queried why certain departments in our business have regular meetings and away days and we don't. My gaffers reply?
Who wants to sit in a room with another 30 versions of you moaning about everything and anything?
It was a fair point.
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We seem to have replaced all the hangers on with teacher’s pets!
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We seem to have replaced all the hangers on with teacher’s pets!
There were some decent people on the old one. It makes no real difference who's on the new version.
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I saw a guy in a dodgy blue suit and thought Tom had realised a press picture was being taken in Birmingham and had rushed to join in.
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I probably should know this as an H&V member for 20 years but are any of these people from H&V?
No. In fact there's no-one from anybody the forums/websites/blogs, which says something.
So who the hell are all these people? And how the fuck did they select them?
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I probably should know this as an H&V member for 20 years but are any of these people from H&V?
No. In fact there's no-one from anybody the forums/websites/blogs, which says something.
So who the hell are all these people? And how the fuck did they select them?
What does it matter, they are giving up a bit of their time to sit and be told what the club wants to tell them, it’s not a consultation anymore so is little more than a box ticking exercise because the PL mandates they do it. Anyone who thinks our club has anything but contempt for the plebs in the seats need not apply :-)
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I probably should know this as an H&V member for 20 years but are any of these people from H&V?
No. In fact there's no-one from anybody the forums/websites/blogs, which says something.
So who the hell are all these people? And how the fuck did they select them?
Pretty much mentions it in the article if you read it.
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They probably just wanted to get shot of that insufferable MOMS twat.
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They probably just wanted to get shot of that insufferable MOMS twat.
He's on the BBCs 'Fan Voice' now, or whatever it's called. He is very important, you know.
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I probably should know this as an H&V member for 20 years but are any of these people from H&V?
No. In fact there's no-one from anybody the forums/websites/blogs, which says something.
So who the hell are all these people? And how the fuck did they select them?
Pretty much mentions it in the article if you read it.
I suppose it does but it’s hardly representative is it. Mr Calvin need to meet all fan groups before making such a decision about composition
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They've handpicked a sanitised group to rubber-stamp whatever they say. Nobody should be surprised and nobody should be under any illusions.
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He strikes me as a bit of a knob as well, but he's the only one on the old board who actually went public with some of the stuff that went on in those meetings (at least beyond the official minutes plus a bit of annotation).
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He strikes me as a bit of a knob as well, but he's the only one on the old board who actually went public with some of the stuff that went on in those meetings (at least beyond the official minutes plus a bit of annotation).
Who?
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MOMS?
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Sorry, quote fail, I was taking about the MOMS bloke.
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Surely if it’s called FAB we should have a Scott representing us.
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Names and a paragraph on what they bring to the party in terms of experience, skills etc.
Not interested in how long theyve been going down or their favourite player.
Their biggest gripe might be informative.
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You should send me from here. I'm very conciliatory and respectful of opinions that are wrong.
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I should have said that I know Craig Hamilton as well - he was involved with the FSA many, many years ago and he's a decent cove.