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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on June 15, 2025, 09:49:44 PM
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Away we go.
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Risso isn't here to moan any more. Can we pin this thread, please?
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Risso isn't here to moan any more. Can we pin this thread, please?
No.
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Just because you dislike women's football doesn't mean others aren't interested.
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As petty as the discussion is, and obviously the site mods can do what the hell want with what is or isn’t permitted, I don’t understand the rationale or reluctance to sticky the thread for the women’s team.
They are part of the club, they carry the name, they wear the kit, they play at the same stadium, they train at the same facility.
What’s the difference between the women’s team thread being stickied and the reserve and academy thread being stickied ?
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Most people don't care.
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Is there any reason why "Betting" is pinned in "Sports Arena"? Firstly, it seems an odd one to be promoting. Secondly, hardly anyone ever posts in it anyway.
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As petty as the discussion is, and obviously the site mods can do what the hell want with what is or isn’t permitted, I don’t understand the rationale or reluctance to sticky the thread for the women’s team.
They are part of the club, they carry the name, they wear the kit, they play at the same stadium, they train at the same facility.
What’s the difference between the women’s team thread being stickied and the reserve and academy thread being stickied ?
They might be nothing to do with the club by the end of the month - we'd be in a farcical position when Aston Villa Women FC could theoretically set up a men's team, Aston Villa Women's Men's team, which in turn they could sell!
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The women's team ought to be pinned, really. It doesn't hurt anybody and there's no real reason not to.
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Another vote for the Women's thread to be pinned. I don't understand the rationale of which threads are pinned, and which are not. However, a thread which will by it's very nature, be returned to throughout the season, rather than gradually losing it's relevance, seems appropriate to be pinned.
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If there's enough interest it will stay at the top of the board anyway. The summer transfer thread isn't even pinned this summer, so not really a need at the moment.
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So why pin anything, then, on that basis? It's a bad look that women are considered irrelevant compared to boys.
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I'm not particularly interested in the women's team but I can see the rationale in having pinned threads for the academy and women's parts of the club.
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They wear the colours, they represent our club. It’s nice to see how they are doing even if I prioritise the men’s team. Should be pinned.
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Yep, another vote for pinning it. And my vote tends to carry a lot of weight around here.
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Yep, another vote for pinning it. And my vote tends to carry a lot of weight around here.
*chuckle*
I couldn't give a shit if its pinned or not. I hope that helps the debate.
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Pin it or don’t pin it I really could not care less. I like to see the Ladies team do well. But really they have no bearing on my mood should they be not very good.
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I reckon in an hour or two there will be a post on here saying something like ...'It's not a democracy round here'...
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I think we should have a vote to pin or not to pin.
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I believe Dave has already made his decision and it's final, it's not like it's a democracy round here.
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I think we should have a vote to pin or not to pin.
But not everyone wants to have a vote, we need a way to decide whether or nor we hold one.
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I think we should have a vote to pin or not to pin.
But not everyone wants to have a vote, we need a way to decide whether or nor we hold one.
A ballot. Let's have a ballot.
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So why pin anything, then, on that basis? It's a bad look that women are considered irrelevant compared to boys.
Not irrelevant but I imagine the men's team are what 90% of posts on this forum are made-up of. The ladies team are discussed less than politics, what's on telly, the archbishop's bowel movements, and whether Footy V is a collective or not.
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But at the end of the day, we are treating this team differently solely on the basis that the players are women.
That's not only a bit silly, it's also quite sad in this day and age.
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Last year, based on the default 15 posts view, the women had 36 pages and the Reserves 62. The u18's doing so well and having two finals match threads probably pushed that one high, as well as it being pinned when the ladies one wasn't. The year before when neither was pinned, it was about 32 pages to 20 in the women's favour.
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So being pinned likely makes a difference.
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That and success. When we had the successful season with Daly playing really well, it was 60-odd pages to 30-odd for the reserves. I think they were both pinned because the initial discussion on pinning was after that season with too much being pinned and both the Women and Reserves being unpinned for a season, with the youth returning to being pinned last season.
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What utterly inconsequential thing can I feign annoyance/upset at today online?
Henry V being bismirched by pinko-communists. No feigning of upset there. Fuck this pinning malarkey, too small beer for my performative outrage.
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But at the end of the day, we are treating this team differently solely on the basis that the players are women.
That's not only a bit silly, it's also quite sad in this day and age.
That's not true. If it was just based on gender I'd be more interested in the women. :-)
The women's game just isn't good enough to warrant my sustained interest. There's less interest int eh women's game overall, attendances went down last season.
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All arguments that could be laid out against the academy teams. I'm fine with both being unpinned and wasn't sure why the academy one was pinned again last season with the Ladies one being ignored.
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We're all here because of the men's team, the reserves/youth directly have an impact on the men's team. The women's team doesn't. Doesn't bother me if this thread is pinned or not, but you can't compare it to the academy teams.
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The women's team ought to be pinned, really. It doesn't hurt anybody and there's no real reason not to.
I really don't understand it, either. Some people do care about the women's game, that's the point.
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But at the end of the day, we are treating this team differently solely on the basis that the players are women.
That's not only a bit silly, it's also quite sad in this day and age.
That's not true. If it was just based on gender I'd be more interested in the women. :-)
The women's game just isn't good enough to warrant my sustained interest. There's less interest int eh women's game overall, attendances went down last season.
I didn't really mean people's personal interest, I meant more that they're the only team not be worthy of a pin.
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Still people on here who haven’t realised this isn’t a democracy.
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With this surge of enthusiasm about the ladies, I'd be interested if anyone can name the manager of the women's team (without looking it up)
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Like quite few people, I have zero interest in the women’s team but, for those that do want to watch them, good luck to you.
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With this surge of enthusiasm about the ladies, I'd be interested if anyone can name the manager of the women's team (without looking it up)
Because the amount of respect deserved by the women's team can somehow be measured by assessing the general ignorance of the mostly male posters...
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I gamble on the women's team quite a lot. They're always good for an over 2.5 goals or BTTS.
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Next season the bottom team will be in a play-off with 3rd in WSL2, with two extra teams coming up to make 14 teams. Then one direct relegation and one playoff game for the bottom two ongoing after that.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4grnrg8dy8o
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Serena Wigman (see you cannot get away from the men).
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With this surge of enthusiasm about the ladies, I'd be interested if anyone can name the manager of the women's team (without looking it up)
Me. And most of the players.
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With this surge of enthusiasm about the ladies, I'd be interested if anyone can name the manager of the women's team (without looking it up)
Me. And most of the players.
Wild, isn't it?!
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Still people on here who haven’t realised this isn’t a democracy.
No it isn't, it's just some old men stubbornly sticking with an arbitrary decision.
I'm off to the wildly popular stickied Betting topic.
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I am a fan of the women's game (Internationally) and I watch the Villa games whenever I can. I'm not really sure what difference the stickiness of the thread matters though.
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I guess it doesn’t make any difference whether it is sticky or not, but given that they are trying to grow the women’s game in this country, hence moving to 14 teams within the women’s super league, I think there is responsibility and some degree of pleasure in watching people who carry our clubs colours and called themselves Aston Villa in trying to do their very best to raise the profile of the game. I am also here, generally for the men’s team but do have a passing interest in what happens with the kids, reserves, women’s team. It doesn’t hurt to have a sticky, happy either way though.
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This controversy will be in the Grauniad soon. Front page.
+1 for sticky. Fuck the establishment.
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The winning captain of the England team Leah Williamson is from my hometown
There’s a big mural of her on a wall near the fire station roundabout
I’ve just seen her outside the big co-op*and the first thing she said to me is how pissed off she is that the women’s team haven’t got a permanent pin on the H&V forum site, I think she might take it to UEFA
(* there was a little co-op but it’s gone now, but the one that remains is still called the big co-op)
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BBC News - Women's Super League expanding from 12 to 14 teams from 2026-27 season - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4grnrg8dy8o
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I am a fan of the women's game (Internationally) and I watch the Villa games whenever I can. I'm not really sure what difference the stickiness of the thread matters though.
As daft as it may seem, and you are right it’s just a stickied thread, for me it’s about giving the women’s team a bit of respect and acknowledgment.
They are part of the club and is doesn’t hurt to recognise that.
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I am a fan of the women's game (Internationally) and I watch the Villa games whenever I can. I'm not really sure what difference the stickiness of the thread matters though.
As daft as it may seem, and you are right it’s just a stickied thread, for me it’s about giving the women’s team a bit of respect and acknowledgment.
They are part of the club and is doesn’t hurt to recognise that.
Absolutely.
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BBC News - Women's Super League expanding from 12 to 14 teams from 2026-27 season - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4grnrg8dy8o
Possible 2 relegations with the play-off, I think that's the right move with the increase.
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Risso isn't here to moan any more. Can we pin this thread, please?
No.
This. Accept the decision and get over it. Thank you.
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So, is that a ban on the discussion?
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BBC News - Women's Super League expanding from 12 to 14 teams from 2026-27 season - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4grnrg8dy8o
Possible 2 relegations with the play-off, I think that's the right move with the increase.
Should just be bottom two who go down automatically, IMO. I'd have champions and winners of a three or four team playoff promoted. Still, better than it could have been.
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So, is that a ban on the discussion?
Seems like it. Dear H&V users, please give us your money but not your opinions.
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So, is that a ban on the discussion?
Seems like it. 'Get over it' is a bit wanky, to me.
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Risso isn't here to moan any more. Can we pin this thread, please?
No.
This. Accept the decision and get over it. Thank you.
Wow ! Fucking hell.
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If you're not happy with the decision made then please feel free to post elsewhere
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Pretty pathetic tbh.
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So, you are saying that posters are banned from discussing whether or not the Aston Villa women’s team deserve more prominence on the forum?
Or if you’re just reminding us we have a choice on which forums we choose to support, but are free to carry on respectful debate, then great.
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The latter. Try questioning a Mod/Admin decision somewhere else and see the result of it.
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That and success. When we had the successful season with Daly playing really well, it was 60-odd pages to 30-odd for the reserves. I think they were both pinned because the initial discussion on pinning was after that season with too much being pinned and both the Women and Reserves being unpinned for a season, with the youth returning to being pinned last season.
Wonder what percentage of the pages were given on whether to pin or not.
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The latter. Try questioning a Mod/Admin decision somewhere else and see the result of it.
Not questioning the decision but what was the reasoning for it and what would it take for it to be reconsidered?
I'm not trying to shit-stir but this is clearly something that some posters have strong feelings about.
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The latter. Try questioning a Mod/Admin decision somewhere else and see the result of it.
Not questioning the decision but what was the reasoning for it and what would it take for it to be reconsidered?
I'm not trying to shit-stir but this is clearly something that some posters have strong feelings about.
Reasoning has already been made that Dave W said no. And now leeg is telling people to post elsewhere.
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The latter. Try questioning a Mod/Admin decision somewhere else and see the result of it.
Not questioning the decision but what was the reasoning for it and what would it take for it to be reconsidered?
I'm not trying to shit-stir but this is clearly something that some posters have strong feelings about.
No answer to this reasonable question isn't surprising because we all know the answer is 'just cuz'.
I just can't quite get my head around being that petty not to just do the one or two clicks it takes to make a topic about one of OUR TEAMS easily discoverable for those who do care just because you've gone 'nahhh, don't think so'. I know it isn't a democracy, but is it a school playground? What possible difference does it make to you? All those people who are strangely eager to check this topic to tell us they don't give a shit about the women's game can just see the stickied topic and think 'no need to check that'. All of us who do want to see what one of OUR TEAMS are up to have it there, easily accessible.
Don't worry, you don't actually have to answer any of that (you wouldn't anyway, *puts on serious voice* "this place isn't a democracy"), and you also don't have to ban me for 'questioning the mods' or whatever sad reason you'll give me, I'm oot. Apologies to those who do care about the women's game, I'm about to cause this topic to have fewer engagements and give the mods greater credence (not that popularity should really matter in regards to one of OUR TEAMS).
It's been a pleasure with some of you. I hate everyone who has ever posted a pun. And fuck me Monty, you're clever. Just when I managed to reach the Premier League in Guess The Crowd as well.
If you see a poorly dressed, fat, ginger bearded man in a cap around then call him a ******...it'll probably be me, you'll be alright.
I'm off to find Bad English and 'tsk' at the weird dude. Then I'm going to Google all the names of the women's team.
Butter on bacon sandwiches and Olivia Coleman is this country's greatest actress.
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The latter. Try questioning a Mod/Admin decision somewhere else and see the result of it.
Not questioning the decision but what was the reasoning for it and what would it take for it to be reconsidered?
I'm not trying to shit-stir but this is clearly something that some posters have strong feelings about.
No answer to this reasonable question isn't surprising because we all know the answer is 'just cuz'.
I just can't quite get my head around being that petty not to just do the one or two clicks it takes to make a topic about one of OUR TEAMS easily discoverable for those who do care just because you've gone 'nahhh, don't think so'. I know it isn't a democracy, but is it a school playground? What possible difference does it make to you? All those people who are strangely eager to check this topic to tell us they don't give a shit about the women's game can just see the stickied topic and think 'no need to check that'. All of us who do want to see what one of OUR TEAMS are up to have it there, easily accessible.
Don't worry, you don't actually have to answer any of that (you wouldn't anyway, *puts on serious voice* "this place isn't a democracy"), and you also don't have to ban me for 'questioning the mods' or whatever sad reason you'll give me, I'm oot. Apologies to those who do care about the women's game, I'm about to cause this topic to have fewer engagements and give the mods greater credence (not that popularity should really matter in regards to one of OUR TEAMS).
It's been a pleasure with some of you. I hate everyone who has ever posted a pun. And fuck me Monty, you're clever. Just when I managed to reach the Premier League in Guess The Crowd as well.
If you see a poorly dressed, fat, ginger bearded man in a cap around then call him a ******...it'll probably be me, you'll be alright.
I'm off to find Bad English and 'tsk' at the weird dude. Then I'm going to Google all the names of the women's team.
Butter on bacon sandwiches and Olivia Coleman is this country's greatest actress.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, see you back here next week.
The loud flounce out never, ever works.
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Oh and fancy flouncing out about something as ABSOLUTELY SHIT as women's football*
* joking.
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Butter on bacon sandwiches and Olivia Coleman is this country's greatest actress.
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Butter on bacon sandwiches and Olivia Coleman is this country's greatest actress.
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In this enlightened day and age I can't believe anyone still eats meat and the answer to the question of greatest female actor (who actually uses the word 'actress' these days?) is always Julie Walters.
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Don't go ES. We need more supporters of women's football and opponents of puns on here. Your attitude to bacon sandwiches is still a disgrace, though.
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Yes, please don't go edgy! This is no time for buttery political point-scoring, cd. We musn't have the woke flank weakened.
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Yes, plus big lads in caps are always a good thing in my book.
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In this enlightened day and age I can't believe anyone still eats meat and the answer to the question of greatest female actor (who actually uses the word 'actress' these days?) is always Julie Walters.
The Academy Awards.
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In this enlightened day and age I can't believe anyone still eats meat and the answer to the question of greatest female actor (who actually uses the word 'actress' these days?) is always Julie Walters.
The Academy Awards.
That's America. They also use sidewalk, diaper and miss the U from colour.
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I thought only departing footballers left goodbye messages?
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It's not an Airport dear.....
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Can we pin the thread now he’s gone?
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In this enlightened day and age I can't believe anyone still eats meat and the answer to the question of greatest female actor (who actually uses the word 'actress' these days?) is always Julie Walters.
The Academy Awards.
That's America. They also use sidewalk, diaper and miss the U from colour.
Not forgetting that they pronounce solder as sodder as if the letter L is either silent or isn't there. Also, who can forgive or forget their bastardisation of Aluminium? There are two i's in it i don't care what you say.
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It's been a pleasure with some of you. I hate everyone who has ever posted a pun...
...I'm off to find Bad English and 'tsk' at the weird dude. Then I'm going to Google all the names of the women's team.
Don't punish yourself. Tsk!
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Whoah!
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The latter. Try questioning a Mod/Admin decision somewhere else and see the result of it.
It's been a pleasure with some of you. I hate everyone who has ever posted a pun...
...I'm off to find Bad English and 'tsk' at the weird dude. Then I'm going to Google all the names of the women's team.
Don't punish yourself. Tsk!
Quoted for posterity.
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It's been a pleasure with some of you. I hate everyone who has ever posted a pun...
...I'm off to find Bad English and 'tsk' at the weird dude. Then I'm going to Google all the names of the women's team.
Don't punish yourself. Tsk!
I wasn't expecting that twist.
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+1 for a sticky thread (I know it's not a vote, just sayin'). Especially as it's a self-contained subject, rather than multiple threads for individual players, rumours, news, etc.
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Puns you say.
Edgy satsuma has got himself into a sticky position here.
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If we have to sacrifice a sutsama for Badders, sorry, but it has to be done. Welcome back, the King of the South!
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He'll return à la Bobby Ewing, and say it was all a Tangerine Dream.
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I think the mandarins here, as well the satsuma, have made their positions clear.
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I think people are just taking the pith now.
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Maybe he can launch an appeel.
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You pipped me to it.
On a more serious note, having not read the last few days pages, have we sold the Women's team yet?
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Can we pin the thread now he’s gone?
I think it's sat in their in-tray and they'll get round to it.
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You pipped me to it.
On a more serious note, having not read the last few days pages, have we sold the Women's team yet?
Unlike Chelsea they don't have a ground and, also, they're a lot less good. So, we would get pennies by comparison.
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You pipped me to it.
On a more serious note, having not read the last few days pages, have we sold the Women's team yet?
Unlike Chelsea they don't have a ground and, also, they're a lot less good. So, we would get pennies by comparison.
You’re talking as if Chelsea’s valuation of their women’s team isn’t grossly exaggerated.
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It's been a pleasure with some of you. I hate everyone who has ever posted a pun...
...I'm off to find Bad English and 'tsk' at the weird dude. Then I'm going to Google all the names of the women's team.
Don't punish yourself. Tsk!
I wasn't expecting that twist.
Its like seeing Ian Brown in a Harry Potter film.
Did that really happen....
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It's been a pleasure with some of you. I hate everyone who has ever posted a pun...
...I'm off to find Bad English and 'tsk' at the weird dude. Then I'm going to Google all the names of the women's team.
Don't punish yourself. Tsk!
I wasn't expecting that twist.
Its like seeing Ian Brown in a Harry Potter film.
Did that really happen....
I am trying to think of a pun now 👀, although it wasn’t me 😃
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I wand to be adored...
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Chelsea always weasley out of this sort of stuff by selling their women's team this time.
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CD you are one clever man you have made this thread a hot topic with the "sticky debate" great way to show people care about womens football!
Have to say i dont really care about womens football tbh. Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.
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CD you are one clever man you have made this thread a hot topic with the "sticky debate" great way to show people care about womens football!
Have to say i dont really care about womens football tbh. Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.
What did ‘tried getting into it’ involve if not watching any of it?
Reading match reports? Listening to radio commentary?
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Let's not go there...
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CD you are one clever man you have made this thread a hot topic with the "sticky debate" great way to show people care about womens football!
Have to say i dont really care about womens football tbh. Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.
What did ‘tried getting into it’ involve if not watching any of it?
Reading match reports? Listening to radio commentary?
Erm watching it with my own eyes and not enjoying it on tv? Just to clarify i watched a couple games and it wasnt for me hence the "so havent watched any at all". Maybe i could have added the world 'since' I do hope that answers your question
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CD you are one clever man you have made this thread a hot topic with the "sticky debate" great way to show people care about womens football!
Have to say i dont really care about womens football tbh. Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.
What did ‘tried getting into it’ involve if not watching any of it?
Reading match reports? Listening to radio commentary?
Erm watching it with my own eyes and not enjoying it on tv? Just to clarify i watched a couple games and it wasnt for me hence the "so havent watched any at all". Maybe i could have added the world 'since' I do hope that answers your question
Yes, if you’ve watched it, it probably would have been better if you didn’t say you hadn’t.
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CD you are one clever man you have made this thread a hot topic with the "sticky debate" great way to show people care about womens football!
Have to say i dont really care about womens football tbh. Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.
What did ‘tried getting into it’ involve if not watching any of it?
Reading match reports? Listening to radio commentary?
Erm watching it with my own eyes and not enjoying it on tv? Just to clarify i watched a couple games and it wasnt for me hence the "so havent watched any at all". Maybe i could have added the world 'since' I do hope that answers your question
Yes, if you’ve watched it, it probably would have been better if you didn’t say you hadn’t.
Probably would have been better if you read what i actually wrote and didn't make something up 👍
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In fairness to Percy, Demitri, your original post didn’t say you watched any games, just that you haven’t watched any of it.
Maybe just badly worded, we’ve all been there.
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CD you are one clever man you have made this thread a hot topic with the "sticky debate" great way to show people care about womens football!
Have to say i dont really care about womens football tbh. Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.
What did ‘tried getting into it’ involve if not watching any of it?
Reading match reports? Listening to radio commentary?
Erm watching it with my own eyes and not enjoying it on tv? Just to clarify i watched a couple games and it wasnt for me hence the "so havent watched any at all". Maybe i could have added the world 'since' I do hope that answers your question
Yes, if you’ve watched it, it probably would have been better if you didn’t say you hadn’t.
Probably would have been better if you read what i actually wrote and didn't make something up 👍
Okay. I’ve read what you actually wrote and quoted it below. What did I make up?
“Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.”
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Percy is a published author whose words have been put through the editor's ruthless paces. Demitri is more of an off-the-cuff kinda guy. There's bound to be regular rubbing-up the wrong ways.
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CD you are one clever man you have made this thread a hot topic with the "sticky debate" great way to show people care about womens football!
Have to say i dont really care about womens football tbh. Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.
What did ‘tried getting into it’ involve if not watching any of it?
Reading match reports? Listening to radio commentary?
Erm watching it with my own eyes and not enjoying it on tv? Just to clarify i watched a couple games and it wasnt for me hence the "so havent watched any at all". Maybe i could have added the world 'since' I do hope that answers your question
Yes, if you’ve watched it, it probably would have been better if you didn’t say you hadn’t.
Probably would have been better if you read what i actually wrote and didn't make something up 👍
Okay. I’ve read what you actually wrote and quoted it below. What did I make up?
“Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.”
How can you enjoy something if you have never watched it. That makes no sense so i felt you would have understood that i meant since watching a few games i even acknowledged it the follow up post but the sarcy comment reply from you was greated with the same response.
And the part you made up i never said i havent seen a game you just mad eyou own assumption. Its really not a big deal cant even believe we are discussing this 😂 its so irrelevant
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It's actually very important. I don't appreciate the emoticons making light of the gravity of the situation.
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In fairness to Percy, Demitri, your original post didn’t say you watched any games, just that you haven’t watched any of it.
Maybe just badly worded, we’ve all been there.
Thanks nigel i take your constructive feedback on board 🫶
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CD you are one clever man you have made this thread a hot topic with the "sticky debate" great way to show people care about womens football!
Have to say i dont really care about womens football tbh. Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.
What did ‘tried getting into it’ involve if not watching any of it?
Reading match reports? Listening to radio commentary?
Erm watching it with my own eyes and not enjoying it on tv? Just to clarify i watched a couple games and it wasnt for me hence the "so havent watched any at all". Maybe i could have added the world 'since' I do hope that answers your question
Yes, if you’ve watched it, it probably would have been better if you didn’t say you hadn’t.
Probably would have been better if you read what i actually wrote and didn't make something up 👍
Okay. I’ve read what you actually wrote and quoted it below. What did I make up?
“Tried getting into it but dont enjoy it so havent watched any at all.”
How can you enjoy something if you have never watched it. That makes no sense so i felt you would have understood that i meant since watching a few games i even acknowledged it the follow up post but the sarcy comment reply from you was greated with the same response.
And the part you made up i never said i havent seen a game you just mad eyou own assumption.
You said you haven’t watched any at all. Everybody (but you it seems) can see you said that. I didn’t make it up so please stop making things up.
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Citeh signing 15-year-old forward Freya Hirons from us. https://x.com/KathrynBatte/status/1938667588323537399
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Fuck her, then.
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Fuck her, then.
She's only 15.
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Figuratively rather than literally.
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Aston Villa agree deal to sell women’s team to owner V Sports
By David Ornstein
June 30, 2025 1:03 pm GMT+1
Aston Villa have agreed a deal to sell their women’s team to V Sports and a stake in the operation to prominent U.S.-based investors.
Villa say they have no issues regarding the Premier League’s profitability and sustainability rules (PSR) and are having positive discussions with UEFA about a resolution in relation to compliance with its financial fair play (FFP) regulations.
V Sports is the parent company which owns Villa and was previously founded as NWSE, before being rebranded in 2021. It is jointly owned by American billionaire Wes Edens and Egyptian billionaire Nassef Sawiris, the latter of whom is Villa chairman.
V Sports also owns a 29 per cent stake in Portuguese side Vitoria S.C. and a 25 per cent stake in Spanish side Real Union. It holds partnership agreements with Egyptian Premier League club ZED FC and Vissel Kobe of the J1 League.
The Athletic reported last week that Villa were exploring the option of selling their women’s team to help with PSR compliance. One source, speaking on the condition of anonymity to protect relationships, said Villa have been looking into a sale for the past 18 months, having recorded losses of £195million ($267) over the past two years — leaving them in danger of breaching PSR.
Villa’s move mirrors one which fellow Premier League side Chelsea made in June 2024, when their women’s team was sold to BlueCo, the company which owns the west London club, for £200m. In May, Chelsea sold an eight per cent stake in the women’s team to Alexis Ohanian, founder of Reddit and husband of tennis star Serena Williams. That stake put the total value of the team at approximately £245m.
Villa finished sixth in the Women’s Super League (WSL) last season and have played in the English top flight since 2020-21. The men’s team also finished sixth in 2024-25 and will play in the Europa League next term as a result.
Villa reported a loss of £85.4mi for the 2023-24 season following a loss of £119.6m for 2022-23. They turned a profit of £300,000 in 2021-22 but a combined loss of more than £105mi over three seasons would constitute a PSR breach, although spending on infrastructure, youth and women’s football is exempt.
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We all know this is a FFP maneuver BUT could this see investment in the women's team be a bit easier as somebody somewhere will want a return on this. Could we challenge towards the top of the WSL soon?
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We all know this is a FFP maneuver BUT could this see investment in the women's team be a bit easier as somebody somewhere will want a return on this. Could we challenge towards the top of the WSL soon?
I guess we are effectively selling it back to ourselves though, so nothing changes ?
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We are selling to "American investors", I don't think we are selling to ourselves. So who knows.
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We all know this is a FFP maneuver BUT could this see investment in the women's team be a bit easier as somebody somewhere will want a return on this. Could we challenge towards the top of the WSL soon?
Unlikely I’d say. It’s just FFP shenanigans again
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We are selling to "American investors", I don't think we are selling to ourselves. So who knows.
V Sports.
The company that owns us.
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I'm reading it that 90% is sold to V Sports and 10% to American investors.
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We are selling to "American investors", I don't think we are selling to ourselves. So who knows.
V Sports.
The company that owns us.
Sounds like we would be selling 10% to outside investors and 90% to V Sports.
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We are selling to "American investors", I don't think we are selling to ourselves. So who knows.
V Sports.
The company that owns us.
Sounds like we would be selling 10% to outside investors and 90% to V Sports.
Yes, you are right.
Given it’s about £5m for that 10% you would think it was quite easy for the club to have found an investor.
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But would also prevent us from deliberately inflating the value of the other 90% as a PSR fiddle, so I'm not sure what the benefit is.
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Yes, you are right.
Given it’s about £5m for that 10% you would think it was quite easy for the club to have found an investor.
So, you're saying the ladies team is only worth £50m; a fifth of the Chelsea valuation?
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Yes, you are right.
Given it’s about £5m for that 10% you would think it was quite easy for the club to have found an investor.
So, you're saying the ladies team is only worth £50m; a fifth of the Chelsea valuation?
A quarter, Chelsea valuation was £200m.
I think that’s about right.
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But would also prevent us from deliberately inflating the value of the other 90% as a PSR fiddle, so I'm not sure what the benefit is.
True, but maybe the club are playing it safe. There are questions over Chelsea using inflated numbers so it seems we are being realistic.
To be fair, adding the warehouse for £50m (genius move) to £55m for the women’s team is a nice influx of revenue.
I’m just happy we have people with real financial nouse running the club and they are not afraid to ‘play the game’ that Chelsea and others play and get away with.
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£5m would be pocket change to one of Wes or Nas's mates. I bet there are deals like this all the time.
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It seems to be a sensible move, particularly the figures banded around, especially if somebody, somewhere is going to look at Chelsea‘s figures. I just hope we can now get on with signing players for both the women’s and the men’s teams.
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Perhaps we should make this topic a sticky after all...
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Yes, you are right.
Given it’s about £5m for that 10% you would think it was quite easy for the club to have found an investor.
So, you're saying the ladies team is only worth £50m; a fifth of the Chelsea valuation?
A quarter, Chelsea valuation was £200m.
I think that’s about right.
I thought I read somewhere that the Chelsea valuation had since been revised to £245m; no matter.
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Aren't Chelsea's women's team all-conquering habitual winners of silverware?
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But would also prevent us from deliberately inflating the value of the other 90% as a PSR fiddle, so I'm not sure what the benefit is.
It also adds a level of authenticity to the value. We can say person x is willing to actually stump up £5m for 10% so the total value is genuinely £50m.
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No doubt person x is associated with Atairos ?
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We all know this is a FFP maneuver BUT could this see investment in the women's team be a bit easier as somebody somewhere will want a return on this. Could we challenge towards the top of the WSL soon?
I guess we are effectively selling it back to ourselves though, so nothing changes ?
The real question is whether Aston Villa Ladies are "we" anymore; given they're just part of a broader sporting network - it gives them the same status as Vitoria and Real Union. Just different "brands" of a sporting conglomerate.
I would imagine there would be some sort of accounting required in respect of "shared services" across the group - we can charge the women's team for use of our facilities - which of course is ultimately paid for by the same people - but I'd imagine the women's PSR rules are less restrictive on them than the men's rules are on us.
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I'm just glad the upturn in results at the end of the season bumped the price up
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But would also prevent us from deliberately inflating the value of the other 90% as a PSR fiddle, so I'm not sure what the benefit is.
It also adds a level of authenticity to the value. We can say person x is willing to actually stump up £5m for 10% so the total value is genuinely £50m.
Absolutely. It definitely adds credence to the financial transaction for 10% of the shares to be owned outside the Group.
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Signed Roebuck from Barca, clearly a very decent keeper prospect at one point, interesting to see how she gets on.
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I'm just glad the upturn in results at the end of the season bumped the price up
Good point. If we had got relegated I wonder what the valuation would be.
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Signed Roebuck from Barca, clearly a very decent keeper prospect at one point, interesting to see how she gets on.
That’s a good signing as hopefully is the Dutch defender signed yesterday…target the weakest area first and keeper / back four definitely needed work
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Aston Villa sign Netherlands defender Wilms - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c78n376qz31o
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Aston Villa have signed Netherlands midfielder Jill Baijings on a permanent deal for an undisclosed fee.
The 24-year-old joins from Bayern Munich, having spent last season on loan at Villa.
She has eight caps for the Netherlands and played for Heerenveen, SGS Essen and Bayer Leverkusen before joining Bayern in 2023.
She made 15 appearances in all competitions for Villa last season, scoring once.
Baijings becomes Villa's third signing of the summer after the arrivals of Netherlands defender Lynn Wilms and England goalkeeper Ellie Roebuck.
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Aston Villa announce permanent signing of Netherlands midfielder Jill Baijings from Bayern Munich.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/16/villa-women-announce-baijings-signing/
It should help to raise our profile in China.
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WSL record appearance holder Nobbs joins Newcastle - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cm2zdnyy173o
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Lucy Staniforth signed extension to contract - was announced at 8am so guess there will be another contract or signing announced later today
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Midfielder Lucia Kendall has joined from Southampton.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/23/villa-announce-kendall-signing/
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I'm assuming they called her Saint Lucia?
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Tough start.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/25/Aston-Villa-2025-26-Women-s-Super-League-fixtures/
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Play home games on a Saturday ffs. You're as bad as Warwickshire. Why would you arrange a home game at the same time the Villa men are on telly?
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ASTON VILLA WOMEN ANNOUNCE OCÉANE DESLANDES SIGNING
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/25/aston-villa-women-announce-oc-ane-deslandes-signing/
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I fancy us to do well this season. Great finish to last season. Hoping to break the top five.
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If we play like we did last few games we will win the league... I'd happily take top half and a cup. 🙂
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In the same group as the noses for the League Cup!
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All their dreams have come true, bless.
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In the same group as the noses for the League Cup!
Has there ever been a pitch invasion and fans attacking the players in the women’s game yet
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/august/03/Villa-Women-Season-Tickets--Prices-Frozen-for-25-26/
Season tickets on sale, same as last year. I think Percy was asking about them earlier.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/august/03/Villa-Women-Season-Tickets--Prices-Frozen-for-25-26/
Season tickets on sale, same as last year. I think Percy was asking about them earlier.
Thanks cd. Do we know if it will get us season ticket waiting list points? I’ve clicked on the link and that’s not listed as a benefit.
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I dunno mate, sorry. Have a vague recollection of that being mentioned before but can't find it online or in my emails now.
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I dunno mate, sorry. Have a vague recollection of that being mentioned before but can't find it online or in my emails now.
I’ll probably get them just in case. It’s pretty reasonable and I do love going to Villa Park, anytime really.
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Attending individual matches do so would be a bastard if the actual ST doesn't.
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Big FFP boost for Villa today from the Pennells. 3 renewed memberships, 3 women’s season tickets, and a stadium tour. About 400 quid.
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Enjoy mate.
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Enjoy mate.
Will do mate, thanks, especially if it moves me up that list.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/august/22/villa-women-announce-hijikata-signing/
Sounds good.
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Did we jump in front of another clubs signing of her?
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Beat Union Berlin 1-0 in a friendly. Daly with the goal as you'd expect.
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I reckon they will really push the top 6 this season. Hope so.
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Hope so. Shame there is no Europa League qualification so not much difference between finishing fourth and tenth.
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Will London City immediately be a challenge for the top 6? Looks like they have spent very heavily.
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Yep, seem like they will be a threat. They've just broken the transfer world record.
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Yep, seem like they will be a threat. They've just broken the transfer world record.
The bookies seem to think they'll be a challenge to the top 3.
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I think so but maybe not this year. Unless their owner gets bored, though, or more billionaires buy rival clubs, I expect them to win at least one league title and Champions League by the end of the decade.
Maybe we would have been better off if Small Heath had got promoted! 😄
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Those crowds Arsenal get! How do they do it? Does any other club get close?
EDIT: Had a look on Google:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1del0kvrwlo#:~:text=The%2520result%2520%E2%80%93%2520a%2520record%2520WSL,fall%2520slightly%2520to%2520some%252029%252C000.
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Officials are shite. If that's a booking for dissent, Wayne Rooney would never have finished a game.
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A less than thrilling first half.
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No chance we finish this match with eleven players.
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This commentator will need talking down from the gantry if Brighton don’t win…. :-) thought I was watching Brighton tv :-)
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Those crowds Arsenal get! How do they do it? Does any other club get close?
EDIT: Had a look on Google:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1del0kvrwlo#:~:text=The%2520result%2520%E2%80%93%2520a%2520record%2520WSL,fall%2520slightly%2520to%2520some%252029%252C000.
Yes but article fails to mention pricing. Not sure about this season but last season a long time friend Arsenal supporter went to watch their women's team regularly and tickets would cost £35. £20 for him and a fiver for kids.
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Sounds like we are finishing strong.
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Is there a live feed of this anywhere?
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It's on Sky. Presumably be a dodgy feed somewhere. Into six minutes injury time.
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Finishes 0-0. The long wait for a Villa goal goes on.
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Those crowds Arsenal get! How do they do it? Does any other club get close?
EDIT: Had a look on Google:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1del0kvrwlo#:~:text=The%2520result%2520%E2%80%93%2520a%2520record%2520WSL,fall%2520slightly%2520to%2520some%252029%252C000.
Yes but article fails to mention pricing. Not sure about this season but last season a long time friend Arsenal supporter went to watch their women's team regularly and tickets would cost £35. £20 for him and a fiver for kids.
It does mention pricing.
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Further evidence I need new reading glasses :'(
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Further evidence I need new reading glasses :'(
Haha!